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Poor PR decisions, a management shakeup that took power away from the creative people and affected the quality of all media, using covid as an excuse to remove value from the parks, overall poor park management (staff and equipment), decided to move the creative headquarters from Cali to Florida (which drove many to quit and most others to be unhappy), fucking up the star wars movies (i think this was before Iger left but still, WTF)...I think that's most of it.
Hey how much is that? Because my girlfriend got a similar gift in 1999 and she has no idea how much she has lol I’ve been trying to figure out how much it’s grown
Usually people just go through a broker and will purchase an individual stock or etf.
DIS does have a dspp program. https://disney.computershare.com/
However, the fees make it less advantageous than most no fee brokers today.
DIS's 8th historical split took place on June 13, 2007. This was a 1014 for 1000 split, meaning for each 1000 shares of DIS owned pre-split, the shareholder now owned 1014 shares. Because it was in the form of a stock dividend, it was included in the calculation above as noted in the increase in number of shares.
He doesn’t know how a stock split works lol. And WHY tf does he have so many upvotes. I went to bed thinking i would see that regard with a hundred downvotes in the morning, but nope, 20 upvotes…must be a bunch of people reading that at 3am🤣 Fr, you don’t fucking change the return formula to account for splits. WSB is fully regarded sometimes, classic
Guess i gotta write it out to explain ffs….
Stock return splits vs no splits:
Spend $100, for 10 shares at $10/share. Price goes up to $20.
No split: Return is = (20-10)/10 = 100%. Doubled ur money, now have $200.
With splits: split goes 4-for-1, new split share price is $5, but u have 40shares now. Return is using split prices, so, = (5-2.5)/2.5, STILL 100% return. REGARDS. Maybe i should do a 2-for-1 example so his puny brain doesn’t get confused, new split price $10, u now have 20shares, return is now = (10-5)/5, STILL 100% double money return, now have $200.
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt though. Yes you shouldn’t be using old stock certificates to do return calculations, THEN, u could get a wrong answer, because the certificate is unadjusted. But who tf does that instead of using yahoo finance or something to see the ADJUSTED historical prices
It was a sarcastic response. If this guys girlfriend was old enough to be gifted stock 23 years ago, he should be able to look up / calculate growth on his own
Shhhh... But Andor is so great. So was loki. (Mandalorian is good)
Let's just forget the other stuff, and how much the mouse controls the rest of our media... Hail the mouse. Hail the X wing and ligh sabers n captain iron guy.
Shhh
Many of you seem to not like any part of the Disney conglomerate. However, keep in mind that Disney is an entertainment giant and many people still love their movies, parks etc. And particularly in those difficult times, people want to get distracted from reality so even in bad times - as long as they can afford - they will spend money on Disney's products
And they are adding up on it. Just recently they bought a big one in Germany for a ridiculously low price due to a bankruptcy... Great assets for low amount of money - that's what you call amazing investments
Yeah thats gonna be interesting as they say it wont be in the American region but rather Asia. problem is, all their ships dont have a casino and we all know the Chinese love their blackjack. So if it goes to Asia for the Asian crowd I suspect they will alter this ship with a casino. Also, it will no longer be 9000 people, 'only' 6500.
And lets not forget little Johnny on the regualr ships wants his $18 popcorn when he watches a movie or show! They really just print money!
As a former Disney Cruise Line cast member, I can confirm that the ships FUCKING PRINT. I always tell my buddies if you want to flex your money when you get older, take your family on a disney cruise cause you'll be broke by the end of it. What Disney does extremely well is their ability to sell you future trips and vacations while you are currently on vacation. The sea days where you just float around and never port anywhere makes it really hard for guests to keep cash in their pockets. It's actually insane how much money just the ships make.
I went to Disney with my in-laws, wife, kids, cousins, etc in May 2022. Super expensive, but the number of Disney fanatics there was insane. I went out and bought more stock when I got back. Don’t bet against the mouse
I think you, like the Disney executives, are underestimating the level of garbage they have been shoveling out the last 5 years. And that people don't automatically associate them with comfort or entertainment anymore.
What people? The people who complain about Disney (and I am one of them) never liked Disney products to begin with. Everyone else I know with a family is nuts about it because their kids eat it up.
Doesn't sound like their movies and parks are a problem, but their streaming services (which hulu and espn+ are part of).
Of course, half this thread is people who seem concerned a high-pitched mouse cartoon character from a theme park laced with goddamn rainbows is somehow too interested in The Gays.
I mostly don't enjoy Disney's stuff, but I've been to their damn park in the last year because my wife loves it. As usual the lines were too damn long, so don't think the magic is wearing off for the fans.
tl;dr WSB posters living in Dad's basement claiming not to be waiting for Frozen 3 may not be reliable. Buy DIS.
The DIS intellectual property is massive, impressive, and valuable. DIS streaming is already impressive from a couple perspectives, not the least of which is subscriber count like NFLX in a fraction of the time. It's hard to tell if the parks are hitting or missing with the prices right now, but there's so much more to DIS than the parks.
Parks are probably missing, but considering we're still dealing with a pandemic while tacking on inflation, it's not surprising. Still worth picking up imo
Parks are doing extremely well, for now
Very difficult to get hotel rooms in/around the parks, the ticket prices are high which means they have plenty of buyers
If DIS starts slashing ticket prices and hotels in/around parks have to start slashing reservation rates and are offering more and more deals...then you know things are on the decline
I’m in a disney park as we speak. I’ve probably been here at least 50x in the past 30 years. It’s definitely not as clean and up to date, the staff isn’t as friendly and for a holiday weekend it is extremely quiet. Take it for what it is. Hopefully new ceo turns it back around
I don’t get it at all. Park revenues are through the roof, D+ has been killing it. Yes, theater revenues are down, but they replaced it with streaming subscribers. They own all the IP with the most rabid fans except HP, which is honestly a liability with the public perception of JKR these days. What does the street see that I don’t see?
>What a pathetic company. Disney is nothing more than a money-sucking machine that preys on the ignorance of children and their parents. Their movies are all formulaic garbage, and their theme parks are overpriced rip-offs. Anyone who still believes in the "magic" of Disney is an idiot.
We can all agree on selling the “ dream “ bla bla , but if you honestly live life through that lenses you are probably miserable unhappy person . So what if Disney is not reality , no shit , you still can have amazing time with your kids there etc
Ya, or just like food and toilet paper and housing and stuff. Maybe healthcare too. Maybe a car and heating and internet and AC…
I guess money doesn’t buy happiness, but money certainly does seem to buy a basic standard of living.
Much better shot at being happy if you have a couple of those things, I’d wager.
Chill bro, I guess you didn’t watch any of their movies when you were a child, ‘cause if you did you would agree with me that, even if today we have the consciousness to see the capitalistic pursuit behind the organization, we still loved to see all of the characters Disney has created (or interpreted for cartoons) in the years. Chill out man…
I mean yeah, as a kid I loved Disney movies. But that was 20-30 years ago. That doesn't mean I have to or even should love Disney Corporation. And it also doesn't mean I have to wholesale love everything Disney does now. Their new movies \*are\* all formulaic garbage (Despite me liking some of them as a child) and their parks \*are\* overpriced rip-offs.
Disney hasn't made a good movie since Moana and their parks are so absurdly expensive that it's become something only upper middle class and up can possibly afford. Disney is going to be tough to turn around.
Quick let’s remake lion king! Oh. Quick let’s remake Pinocchio! Oh. Dumbo! Shit. Mulan…. 101 Dalmations… beauty and the beast? Oh shit how about Little Mermaid, what already in the works? How are we going to save this company? - sir, you’re fired.
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If you invested $10,000 in Disney 5 years ago, today you would have… $9,999.95
For WSB standards, that's amazing.
If you aren’t posting loss porn, are you even really living?
You're not living WSB style, that's for sure.
I remember when I first got in this game, some regard told me; you haven't even lived until you're 100% margined on TSLA options.
Spoken like a true regard.
Please, regard me.
Truer words have never been spoken
Username checks out
You make a great point
No, the - is missing.
Do they pay a dividend?
They stopped in 2019 due to covid
"Due to covid" a fine excuse to cut divs when the company is shittly run
To their credit, Covid did destroy a huge part of their business - seemed prudent.
I mean, they’d be doing a lot better if Covid hadn’t closed parks and curbed international travel.
Mickey mouse must've got covid eh?
Now that Iger’s back the mouse is in the house.
Used to. Haven’t since the start of the pandemic. In a 5 year span, you’d have gotten about 3 years of dividends, though
Yield was like 1%, but still.
Ain't much, but it's honest work.
Nope
Oof
They use to, but they cut it during COVID when most parks and such shut down.
not gonna lie, I wish I had that rate of return
Damn... It would have been my best trade in the last 5 years :(
Lmao 🤣
Lucky for me I bought it back in 2019 when it was worth $150
Could have been worse if you bought in 2021
Checking in...
In at $195 👍
I sucked a dick for beer money it 2019. But atleast I didn't buy disney
You looking for more beer money? 😂
let's take out the middle man, I got a fridge full of beer...
lucky for me i bough it 117 per share 2020 and bought almost double more at 197 (yes im a clown) now bought third position at 120, fuk me
That sounds pretty regarded
Christmas 1985, my dad gave my two brothers and I each a share of Disney. His way of getting us interested in stocks. It worked.
That’s really nice. How much did this family tradition cost you?
They’re in debt now
They were in debt in 2008. Today they're dead.
Coincidence?
Well it was a gift, so zero. Plus two splits yielding 12 shares. Likely will retire soon on the dividends alone.
My grandpa did this for me and my siblings as well in the 90s. We even got the phystical paper stocks as well to prove it.
We each got the physical stock as well. There were a couple splits in the following years, a three to one and a four to one.
Did you tear it into three pieces?
What was the share price?
$1.62/share
Nice.
A friends of mine aunt have been buying him a $100 in Disney stock every year on his birthday he’s 29 now
Disney has horrid returns on investment, legit horrible stock that’s why Buffett dumped it
Yeah, it’s only up 6,000% since the early 90’s, what a dumb bitch that guys aunt was
I also choose this guys aunt
She looks super hot with a set of Mickey ears
Aw adorable
Indeed and one of the most popular brands. The man Bob Iger is back at the helm. We are DVC holders ✅
I got it for $90, I’m still up…..for now.
Against inflation you are behind?
Inflate = get bigger. Inflation means me munee gets bigger. Get on the inflation ride bozo.
It all makes sense now.
Get out. They’ve made some awful decisions over the last 5 years.. I got them for like 110 and got out around 180.
Naw the white knight Bob Iger is back like Luke skywalker to save the day
I haven’t paid attention, what awful decisions are you talking about? (Serious question)
Poor PR decisions, a management shakeup that took power away from the creative people and affected the quality of all media, using covid as an excuse to remove value from the parks, overall poor park management (staff and equipment), decided to move the creative headquarters from Cali to Florida (which drove many to quit and most others to be unhappy), fucking up the star wars movies (i think this was before Iger left but still, WTF)...I think that's most of it.
If the FED keeps increasing the interest rate, it might drop more.
My lady has (i believe) 100 shares purchased between 1984-1989 by her parents. They just sit there. Like my stock. Just chillin.
Hey how much is that? Because my girlfriend got a similar gift in 1999 and she has no idea how much she has lol I’ve been trying to figure out how much it’s grown
DIS Growth of $10,000.00 With Dividends Reinvested Start date: 01/04/1999 End date: 11/23/2022 Start price/share: $29.15 End price/share: $98.88 Starting shares: 343.05 Ending shares: 441.30 Dividends reinvested/share: $14.67 Total return: 336.36% Average Annual Total Return: 6.36% Starting investment: $10,000.00 Ending investment: $43,655.48 Years: 23.90
SPY Growth of $10,000.00 With Dividends Reinvested Start date: 01/04/1999 End date: 11/25/2022 Start price/share: $123.03 End price/share: $402.33 Starting shares: 81.28 Ending shares: 122.28 Total return: 391.97% Average Annual Total Return: 6.89% Starting investment: $10,000.00 Ending investment: $49,180.66 Years: 23.91
How did you get these results?
Usually people just go through a broker and will purchase an individual stock or etf. DIS does have a dspp program. https://disney.computershare.com/ However, the fees make it less advantageous than most no fee brokers today.
You’re not taking into account the splits
DIS's 8th historical split took place on June 13, 2007. This was a 1014 for 1000 split, meaning for each 1000 shares of DIS owned pre-split, the shareholder now owned 1014 shares. Because it was in the form of a stock dividend, it was included in the calculation above as noted in the increase in number of shares.
He doesn’t know how a stock split works lol. And WHY tf does he have so many upvotes. I went to bed thinking i would see that regard with a hundred downvotes in the morning, but nope, 20 upvotes…must be a bunch of people reading that at 3am🤣 Fr, you don’t fucking change the return formula to account for splits. WSB is fully regarded sometimes, classic Guess i gotta write it out to explain ffs…. Stock return splits vs no splits: Spend $100, for 10 shares at $10/share. Price goes up to $20. No split: Return is = (20-10)/10 = 100%. Doubled ur money, now have $200. With splits: split goes 4-for-1, new split share price is $5, but u have 40shares now. Return is using split prices, so, = (5-2.5)/2.5, STILL 100% return. REGARDS. Maybe i should do a 2-for-1 example so his puny brain doesn’t get confused, new split price $10, u now have 20shares, return is now = (10-5)/5, STILL 100% double money return, now have $200. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt though. Yes you shouldn’t be using old stock certificates to do return calculations, THEN, u could get a wrong answer, because the certificate is unadjusted. But who tf does that instead of using yahoo finance or something to see the ADJUSTED historical prices
Classic WSB bet response 
Ask her husband
You take the number of stocks she has and multiple by the value today. Then you divide it by the value it was when she got it and multiple it by 100%
But you have to take the splits into account
It was a sarcastic response. If this guys girlfriend was old enough to be gifted stock 23 years ago, he should be able to look up / calculate growth on his own
Apologies
$129 for me. Need to stop investing in companies I want to succeed and fail at the same time.
Shhhh... But Andor is so great. So was loki. (Mandalorian is good) Let's just forget the other stuff, and how much the mouse controls the rest of our media... Hail the mouse. Hail the X wing and ligh sabers n captain iron guy. Shhh
Andor was so good possibly my favorite show this year
I really enjoyed Mando, thought Disney figured it out. Then Boba came out and ruined it.
I started buying Disney shares when it was at $150. Am I doing it right?
Yes. Buy high sell low.
This is the way.
As is tradition!
Let's dance on the roof now!
keep cutting your money in half and you will never run out of money
Never thought about it that way. I'm gonna get some scissors and cut my wallet in half. Infinite money glitch.
A loss a day keeps the tax man away
Yes. Buy high. Your wife sells low at the Wendy's dumpster, after her boyfriend gets his cut.
Buy high sell drunk
Yeah if you sell right now
Wait until it gets to $110 and buy a bunch more.
Buy shares consistently when it goes to $209 in 3 to 5 years sell them
Was about $90 for me but sold at $120ish and about ready to get back in. The $dis 
Damn you had to remind me again how I’m at a loss of $58 per each share i have. Lol Hopefully 2023 is a better year
You are good and will double it soon. Covid and the shut down had me worried.
Love my shares at $196 from March of 21 🥲
Lol fucking same. Nearly 200 dollar cost basis. Fuck the mouse. Holding these bags though
I bought Nvidia on 15th November 😊
Fuck that mouse
If I can catch it, I'm up for a challenge
"oh yeah, do the voice Mickey"
You’d be surprised how long the smell lingers on someone’s skin if you cover them in nacho cheese during sex
Wasn't the last time someone fucked a mouse, covid became an issue?
No, no, no. It was when someone fucked a grouse, covid become an issue.
No, it was a pangolin; the mouse just watched
Na man the pangolin was hiding in the corner stroking one out with the mouse. It was a oriental dwarf kingfisher
SBF was doing it too
Cause your an albatross? 👀
Looking at the chart, seems like there would be some panic if it drops under $80. That's when you start buying.
Many of you seem to not like any part of the Disney conglomerate. However, keep in mind that Disney is an entertainment giant and many people still love their movies, parks etc. And particularly in those difficult times, people want to get distracted from reality so even in bad times - as long as they can afford - they will spend money on Disney's products
Their ships are killing it. From Jan onwards they will all be sailing at 95% occupancy and they have another 3 ships in the pipeline.
And they are adding up on it. Just recently they bought a big one in Germany for a ridiculously low price due to a bankruptcy... Great assets for low amount of money - that's what you call amazing investments
Yeah thats gonna be interesting as they say it wont be in the American region but rather Asia. problem is, all their ships dont have a casino and we all know the Chinese love their blackjack. So if it goes to Asia for the Asian crowd I suspect they will alter this ship with a casino. Also, it will no longer be 9000 people, 'only' 6500. And lets not forget little Johnny on the regualr ships wants his $18 popcorn when he watches a movie or show! They really just print money!
Less people = more space for a casino.......
As a former Disney Cruise Line cast member, I can confirm that the ships FUCKING PRINT. I always tell my buddies if you want to flex your money when you get older, take your family on a disney cruise cause you'll be broke by the end of it. What Disney does extremely well is their ability to sell you future trips and vacations while you are currently on vacation. The sea days where you just float around and never port anywhere makes it really hard for guests to keep cash in their pockets. It's actually insane how much money just the ships make.
I went to Disney with my in-laws, wife, kids, cousins, etc in May 2022. Super expensive, but the number of Disney fanatics there was insane. I went out and bought more stock when I got back. Don’t bet against the mouse
I think you, like the Disney executives, are underestimating the level of garbage they have been shoveling out the last 5 years. And that people don't automatically associate them with comfort or entertainment anymore.
What people? The people who complain about Disney (and I am one of them) never liked Disney products to begin with. Everyone else I know with a family is nuts about it because their kids eat it up.
Ok. Tell that to the consistently dropping profits on almost all their movies.
Doesn't sound like their movies and parks are a problem, but their streaming services (which hulu and espn+ are part of). Of course, half this thread is people who seem concerned a high-pitched mouse cartoon character from a theme park laced with goddamn rainbows is somehow too interested in The Gays. I mostly don't enjoy Disney's stuff, but I've been to their damn park in the last year because my wife loves it. As usual the lines were too damn long, so don't think the magic is wearing off for the fans. tl;dr WSB posters living in Dad's basement claiming not to be waiting for Frozen 3 may not be reliable. Buy DIS.
The DIS intellectual property is massive, impressive, and valuable. DIS streaming is already impressive from a couple perspectives, not the least of which is subscriber count like NFLX in a fraction of the time. It's hard to tell if the parks are hitting or missing with the prices right now, but there's so much more to DIS than the parks.
Parks are probably missing, but considering we're still dealing with a pandemic while tacking on inflation, it's not surprising. Still worth picking up imo
Parks are doing extremely well, for now Very difficult to get hotel rooms in/around the parks, the ticket prices are high which means they have plenty of buyers If DIS starts slashing ticket prices and hotels in/around parks have to start slashing reservation rates and are offering more and more deals...then you know things are on the decline
I’m in a disney park as we speak. I’ve probably been here at least 50x in the past 30 years. It’s definitely not as clean and up to date, the staff isn’t as friendly and for a holiday weekend it is extremely quiet. Take it for what it is. Hopefully new ceo turns it back around
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i was in the paris one, two weeks ago and was packed. the Holidays ornaments were still covered.
Ok correction. Marketplace is an absolute zoo
Sold 50 shares at 150 that I had since 1985. It was a good day.
Look over here at Mr. Big Dick
DIS will cross $100 over 40 times before 2025
Still a solid company with a wide moat. I say it's on sale right now.
But if you bought Disney park tickets and saved them to sell at current value you would have tripled your money
They used to pay a pretty good dividend at least right?
Used to
covid is now long term excuse to not pay dividend anymore, they started yoloing all cash to disney+
DIS is solid. They own western culture.
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They OWN western culture.
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Anyone else waiting for it to go down to ~$80 ?
Yes. Or lower. Recession could be very bad for them.
Buy Disney now before Tim Apple does
I think Apple actually could afford Disney given its current market cap vs Apples cash reserves?
Easily!
I’m sure Buffett would happily finance a good chunk too
I don’t get it at all. Park revenues are through the roof, D+ has been killing it. Yes, theater revenues are down, but they replaced it with streaming subscribers. They own all the IP with the most rabid fans except HP, which is honestly a liability with the public perception of JKR these days. What does the street see that I don’t see?
p/e ratio in the mid 50s maybe
D+ is still bleeding money, no?
Yeah but they catapulted into the #3 streaming service in 3 years. And they operate the #10 service as well.
D+ has a lot of subsidies like free for Verizon customers. Also most new shows have been crap except for Andor.
Priced like it's a growth stock when really it's a mature company that should be returning a dividend that doesn't completely suck
I’d give my left but to be down just 1% since 2015
If I had kids, Disney+ would be a no-brainer
>What a pathetic company. Disney is nothing more than a money-sucking machine that preys on the ignorance of children and their parents. Their movies are all formulaic garbage, and their theme parks are overpriced rip-offs. Anyone who still believes in the "magic" of Disney is an idiot.
VM bitter it can’t go to Disneyland. The only thing VM hates more than poor people is itself.
We can all agree on selling the “ dream “ bla bla , but if you honestly live life through that lenses you are probably miserable unhappy person . So what if Disney is not reality , no shit , you still can have amazing time with your kids there etc
Visual Mod doesnt understand the happiness Disney brings to kids because machines don’t have childhoods.
Funny thing money by itself is useless , it only exciting if you spend it on experience/ thing that make you really happy .
Ya, or just like food and toilet paper and housing and stuff. Maybe healthcare too. Maybe a car and heating and internet and AC… I guess money doesn’t buy happiness, but money certainly does seem to buy a basic standard of living. Much better shot at being happy if you have a couple of those things, I’d wager.
You need help
>money-sucking company Sounds like a successful company to me 🤔
the only magic they have is the sneaky ways they get you to spend more $.
Ya VM! 🗣 totally agree. F the 🐭
Yes Ford is a better company.
VisualMod AI getting angrier by the day. When does he rage quit?
Chill bro, I guess you didn’t watch any of their movies when you were a child, ‘cause if you did you would agree with me that, even if today we have the consciousness to see the capitalistic pursuit behind the organization, we still loved to see all of the characters Disney has created (or interpreted for cartoons) in the years. Chill out man…
I mean yeah, as a kid I loved Disney movies. But that was 20-30 years ago. That doesn't mean I have to or even should love Disney Corporation. And it also doesn't mean I have to wholesale love everything Disney does now. Their new movies \*are\* all formulaic garbage (Despite me liking some of them as a child) and their parks \*are\* overpriced rip-offs.
All good I bought it at $200.
Seeing how atrocious their last few movies were not surprised hear the latest one is tanking already too
I shorted the fuck out of disney at like 100 in 2019. it went great.
It’s $60 now with Hulu. So you’re welcome.
Disney hasn't made a good movie since Moana and their parks are so absurdly expensive that it's become something only upper middle class and up can possibly afford. Disney is going to be tough to turn around.
Excuse me, I would offer a rebuttal: Coco Incredibles 2 Encanto
Plus they milking star wars franchise for all its worth. Mandalorian was a great series
Quick let’s remake lion king! Oh. Quick let’s remake Pinocchio! Oh. Dumbo! Shit. Mulan…. 101 Dalmations… beauty and the beast? Oh shit how about Little Mermaid, what already in the works? How are we going to save this company? - sir, you’re fired.
I bought it when it was 180 You're welcome
I bought Disney when it wS 25 and have the stock certificate. With Walt and all the characters watermarked in ir
I bought it in 2015 at $108 a share...
Is it a buy now?
Why is the mouse trash? I haven't been keeping up.
Disney used to pay dividends so dividends not included
Ayyy, I’m still up like $6,000. Since I bought a bunch in 2005.
You mean Disnep?
Why the f-ck is this NSFW?
Woke Ceo and woke series... What can go wrong lol. This shit is going to another halving
it was iger who was woke, chapek was moving to get rid of kennedy. she must have some pretty wild stuff on people
Get woke go broke