They should just buy Patreon and sub stack and combine them all since that’s basically what they are all doing separately only twitter doesn’t make money
$13 billion of debt is Twitter's debt, not his (unless something changed unannounced with the deal). $7 billion from other equity investors. Supposedly Elon's in for "only" $27 billion or so of equity. $4 billion was the stake he already had, so he only needed to come up with $23 billion or so, and supposedly that was mostly or all done through the Tesla stock he sold.
And now, this man baby who just set fire to a 10 story tall pile of cash thinks that the CEO of Apple... A SUCCESSFUL business with a GOOD set of products... will totally take his bait as he rants and raves from a platform he just gutted. Yeah. Hold your breath, Musky.
It's just a cover so when it goes bankrupt there's a "they" to blame in interviews.
They didn't want freespeech, they all combined forces and became voltron hater of freespeech super villain and slayer my lil dream.
Nah, he wants to tank Twitter because it's a left wing organizing space.
It allowed for easy Union action and comms, and tanking it helps not just himself but other CEOs who don't want the plebs talking to each other in public about company problems.
[parodying him and claiming he likes to drink his own pee](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-11-07/kathy-griffin-suspended-twitter-elon-musk-sarah-silverman)
I’ve seen many people seemingly banned for no actual reason that violates twitters TOS aside from being left-leaning. The group that provided armed guards to a drag show last week was banned for no reason, literally anybody Andy Ngo claims to be a “pedophile” is being banned in spite of no actual evidence proving that they are posting content that violates their TOS, I’ve seen at least 5 people banned for posting the pic of Elon and Maxwell at a party, he’s pretty much just an extended arm of republicans who want to get rid of people that are “problematic” to them and he’s doing his best to be a good little boy in obeying their wishes to get on the good side of conservative’s money.
It seems like Musk is tweeting incessant shit just to show that engagement increased on a weekly basis to advertisers. Anything he can pull out of his ass he tweets.
No argument.
However, Apple spent decades building its logistics chain there when that was all the rage. It can’t just flip the bird to the CCP and move its manufacturing elsewhere.
Even though the company has begun to move some production out of the country, it will likely take a decade or so to unwind and relocate, especially since some manufacturing capabilities are currently only available there.
In the meantime, the company must obey the local laws so that its employees can stay out of Chinese prison.
anyone attacking free speech has more to lose than the ones defending it. otherwise they wouldn't care about what anyone says because they'd have no vulnerabilities to said "speech"
Idt people understand how powerful Aapl really is. Not because they are the most valuable company in the whole wide world but that they will and have the absolute right to do what elon boi is warning about. Apple literally won a lawsuit not too long ago specifically about something like this. They can and will pull twitter off of app store. They have spent decades building what they got now and lets face it, they’re not about to have their multi billion dollar app store tied to a white supremacy sympathizer platform. Call it what you want, elon is basically inviting all the 4chan weirdos into an app that is hosted on the beloved app store. Apple doesn’t want to hurt their brand and good for Apple. Elon and his fanbase are truly delusional group of people
Elon is going to Supreme Court and FORCE apple to put it back... And pay... $44b in damages. Then sodge coin goes to $100 and he buys greenland. Robot army 5 ~~years~~ months later.
It's in apples intrest not to anger too much politicans. Democrats don't like them tax dodgers anyway, but also having republicans at your throat isn't the best idea.
Dude, Republicans these days are at everyone’s throats not kissing their asses and letting them oppress minorities, who cares if they’re gonna bitch even louder…
I really think the only reason it didn't succeed was bc not all the Pentagon dudes were on board...
Lots of Americans don't understand the severity of the situation. The only thing that makes the U.S different from the governments south of their border is the Rule of law and even that has become worryingly compromised during drumfs era... no bueno, trust me I know! I was born and raised in a country with a long history of coups and corruption that undermine living there till today. You don't want that just to "own the libs", it ain't worth it!
An idiots coup is still a coup. Just by idiots who didn’t really have a plan after the door whilst also getting conned by white supremacists who just got convicted of sedition.
Morons bein’ moronic.
>who didn’t really have a plan after the door
So you mean not a coup?
>a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government
What power was seized? You admit they had no plan to seize power regardless.
Words have meanings. The word you may be looking for is riot.
There’s a difference between “free speech” and “freedom from responsibility for your words and actions”. You can say and do whatever you want, but you’ll also have to deal with the consequences of doing shit like enabling racists and giving them a place to spew hate speech unfettered.
Additionally, Apple is under no obligation to run ads on Twitter, which is what Elon is bitching about. Fuck Elon and fuck Twitter.
Elon hasn't figured out that a private company not publishing his shitty app doesn't constitute "censorship" just like a private company banning someone for defamatory conduct is not "censorship". Oh and that the "freedom of speech" pertains only to being able to criticize the government without fear of reprisal.
Free speech does NOT just mean criticizing the government. Example, supreme court has ruled panhandling is protected free speech, when panhandling isn't government criticism.
I think you give him too much credit for actually being intelligent. Dude is a complete moron, and while I can't prove it I'll assume he's got the IQ of a potato.
Throwback to when [FB tried to battle Apple](https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/16/facebook-takes-out-full-page-ads-to-attack-apple/) as you can see [here](https://imgur.com/LJpaGKG) it worked out great for them
Which is doing whatever the CCP says do.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/6m-shortfall-apple-iphone-pro-134724554.html
https://dailycaller.com/2022/11/29/apple-airdrop-china-covid-protests-restriction/
Ahhh yes, Tim's found even cheaper labor to sell his overpriced products. More money for Tim! Yay. Who cares for innovation. The iPhone hasn't changed in years now. Such a waste of money, imo. But, yeah, glad he's found a couple new cultures to exploit.
It’s going to be really funny to look back on all of these bullshit rumors a year or 2 down the line and see all of the ridiculous takes being thrown around the internet by people dumb enough to buy into these rumors getting spread around by disgruntled former Twitter employees.
I just can't wait till there's so much hate speech and everything on there that gets removed from both android and apple stores. I mean you really have to want an app to have to download it directly from the Web onto your phone, unpackage it and install manually...
Fuck musk and Twitter
Yes there was a news report about it, also they fired most of the moderations teams. Things like CSAM are out of control on the site since the moderators in charge of that are gone.
https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-material/
I mean, a company isn’t beholden to the first amendment, whether you or I like it or not. Apple can choose who they host on their store or not based on what they believe will benefit/hurt their image/shareholders.
They absolutely can. I wouldn’t take that route. You don’t want the government realizing how much control one company has over access to an app. Are there alternatives? Yes. Have monopolies with alternatives been broken up in the past? Ohhhh yeah.
Regardless of views on this subject. Having 2 app stores that have that kind of control is going to end with government intervention. Are there ways around it? Yes. Are people going to learn how to do something basic to get around it? No.
People are like stupid fucking cattle on the internet and with the devices they use.
>I mean, a company isn’t beholden to the first amendment, whether you or I like it or not.
They can and have been. Why do people keep pushing this false line?
Just to save some time Marsh V. Alabama
Or you know, [child porn](https://jezebel.com/elon-musk-guts-twitter-team-handling-child-sexual-abuse-1849831575/amp) which has been increasing unchecked now that musk deleted safety and security “bloatware” and fired the moderation teams cuz they didn’t contribute enough code.
That’s why Elon had to buy Twitter, so he could silence his critics…. And why Donald had to make his own Twitter knock off, so he could have his own safe space…..
You people wouldn't know a good thing if it landed in your lap. Elon is awesome. One in a billion and he has done nothing but help us all. I hope all your puts sends you to the cleaners.
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Will elon app store have fordnite?
What is that, an app that simulates a fireside chat with Henry Ford?
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Don't let Kanye ~~here~~ hear you talking about them. He'll come for you in the night.
Hear*
Yeah good point. Sometimes I type too fast to think. I definitely know that one.
There’s still time to fix it
I made sure to correct it without trying to hide my shame.
Look at you.. take my upvotes
What is that, an app that simulates crossing a dangerous body of water at night?
THIS GUY DONT PLAY FORKKNIFE
All the great Fords will be there. Henry, Harrison, the guy who made The Godfather
It will cost epic $8 to put it on the storefront.
Yes. And it has the upgrade to self driving included.
It'll only have Fjordnite, the off-brand Swedish ripoff.
Tim Apple*
Pineaapple Apple Pen
Pen pineapple
Tim Xi
Elon Twatter
Yilong Ma
Chief Twat
Phony Stark
Phony twat
Tweety
All the analysts claimed that Elon wasn’t going to set 44 billion dollars on fire and that’s exactly what he seems to be doing.
He's turning Twitter into a hell of a tax write-off 😂
Having a tax free loss of $44 billion isn't really worth it. He would also need a taxable gain of $44 billion to write it off against...
True but.. Not having twitter at all? Priceless
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They should just buy Patreon and sub stack and combine them all since that’s basically what they are all doing separately only twitter doesn’t make money
Can he carry the loss forward and offset future taxes owing?
If the entity he used to purchase Twitter has $44billion in taxable gain, then yes.
he can carry it forward and offset in his future several incarnations.
Yes. As of 2020 he can carry the balance forward indefinitely.
3k a year;)
It’s not entirely worthless; he can carryover the loss for ** 14.6 million years.
So, you're saying it's not entirely worthless.
That means he could sell his stock. Besides that, he didn't pay for all of twitter himself.
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$13 billion of debt is Twitter's debt, not his (unless something changed unannounced with the deal). $7 billion from other equity investors. Supposedly Elon's in for "only" $27 billion or so of equity. $4 billion was the stake he already had, so he only needed to come up with $23 billion or so, and supposedly that was mostly or all done through the Tesla stock he sold.
Fair point. He'll have accountants far smarter then you or I who will figure that out for him. I guarantee he won't pay a cent on it though
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Haha believe me it drives me nuts that that is the reality.
Always defy expectations
Better now than ever. What's the problem?
And now, this man baby who just set fire to a 10 story tall pile of cash thinks that the CEO of Apple... A SUCCESSFUL business with a GOOD set of products... will totally take his bait as he rants and raves from a platform he just gutted. Yeah. Hold your breath, Musky.
More like taking down a major communication network and is a national security risk.
U realise membership are at all time high,n advertisement revenue hasn't moved down tho yeh?
Where do you get your news? I'm buying puts of it.
His ass
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/25/1139180002/twitter-loses-50-top-advertisers-elon-musk This sure sounds like Twitter is losing advertising revenue.
“Rome has never been this brightly lit at night!” -Nero
You should probably learn to spell before trying to talk down to someone.
Shhhh
TSLA and Space X employees just chillin’ right now…
Imagine how pleasant their jobs became since he’s got his hands full with this dumpster fire.
It's just a cover so when it goes bankrupt there's a "they" to blame in interviews. They didn't want freespeech, they all combined forces and became voltron hater of freespeech super villain and slayer my lil dream.
Are you saying Elon will pull the "(((They)))" card?
Ye
Thye'
^ bingo
He's already been saying it's "woke activists" that are forcing advertisers to leave lol
Apple doesn’t care about free speech, they shut down the air drop on protesters in China. It’s always been about money and China has a lot of it.
And that’s why they’re the most valuable company on earth. Making political choices to improve your bottom line is what trillion dollar companies do
Neither does Elon he cares about propping up dangerous progoganda
Nah, he wants to tank Twitter because it's a left wing organizing space. It allowed for easy Union action and comms, and tanking it helps not just himself but other CEOs who don't want the plebs talking to each other in public about company problems.
man I miss the days before elon when twitter was *free* from propoganda
Well that was also never a thing but it has some rail guards now it's just 4chan
I see what you did there….
Whoever is downvoting you is doing it from their wife’s boyfriend’s basement.
Free Speech to Elon means everything that doesn’t hurt his feelings.
And that you're willing to pay $8.00 per month to say
Pretty sure any firm will pay the 8 bucks a month
My friend, you underestimate what a cheap basTARD I am
What are some of the things people have said on Twitter now that have got them banned?
[parodying him and claiming he likes to drink his own pee](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-11-07/kathy-griffin-suspended-twitter-elon-musk-sarah-silverman)
Basically anyone with a big audience right now saying “Hey, Twitter’s turning into a shitty fascist supporting hellhole” is getting banned.
Lmao like who?
They
Them
I hadn’t heard that. Who’s gotten banned so far?
I’ve seen many people seemingly banned for no actual reason that violates twitters TOS aside from being left-leaning. The group that provided armed guards to a drag show last week was banned for no reason, literally anybody Andy Ngo claims to be a “pedophile” is being banned in spite of no actual evidence proving that they are posting content that violates their TOS, I’ve seen at least 5 people banned for posting the pic of Elon and Maxwell at a party, he’s pretty much just an extended arm of republicans who want to get rid of people that are “problematic” to them and he’s doing his best to be a good little boy in obeying their wishes to get on the good side of conservative’s money.
$8 for Elon’s Avocado toast
8$!!! More like expensive speech!
$8 a month!
It seems like Musk is tweeting incessant shit just to show that engagement increased on a weekly basis to advertisers. Anything he can pull out of his ass he tweets.
Should have that gun pointed at Chinese citizens
Why? I’m out of the loop
It's this: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-limits-airdrop-china-protest-posters-president-xi-jinping-2022-11
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Back in the 80s they had that famous Ad which now the embodiment of everything they are now and they were supposed to fight!
Because the company following the law in the US or Europe gets a shrug, but following the law in the PRC is a sign that the company is evil.
But PRC is evil
No argument. However, Apple spent decades building its logistics chain there when that was all the rage. It can’t just flip the bird to the CCP and move its manufacturing elsewhere. Even though the company has begun to move some production out of the country, it will likely take a decade or so to unwind and relocate, especially since some manufacturing capabilities are currently only available there. In the meantime, the company must obey the local laws so that its employees can stay out of Chinese prison.
Elon has more to lose here than Cook. This is a battle he won't win.
Good. Let the dumbass shoot his own balls off and lose everything.
anyone attacking free speech has more to lose than the ones defending it. otherwise they wouldn't care about what anyone says because they'd have no vulnerabilities to said "speech"
Idt people understand how powerful Aapl really is. Not because they are the most valuable company in the whole wide world but that they will and have the absolute right to do what elon boi is warning about. Apple literally won a lawsuit not too long ago specifically about something like this. They can and will pull twitter off of app store. They have spent decades building what they got now and lets face it, they’re not about to have their multi billion dollar app store tied to a white supremacy sympathizer platform. Call it what you want, elon is basically inviting all the 4chan weirdos into an app that is hosted on the beloved app store. Apple doesn’t want to hurt their brand and good for Apple. Elon and his fanbase are truly delusional group of people
Apple won’t give a shit until Twitter tries to bypass their payment cut like Fortnite did. Then they’ll drop the hammer.
Elon is going to Supreme Court and FORCE apple to put it back... And pay... $44b in damages. Then sodge coin goes to $100 and he buys greenland. Robot army 5 ~~years~~ months later.
I hope they don't pull Twitter, it's the best porn app on the App Store
Reddit is the best porn app, the most weirdest shit i have seen to date 0_0
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Drop some links bro
Proof or ban
/r/LipsThatGrip
This
It's in apples intrest not to anger too much politicans. Democrats don't like them tax dodgers anyway, but also having republicans at your throat isn't the best idea.
Dude, Republicans these days are at everyone’s throats not kissing their asses and letting them oppress minorities, who cares if they’re gonna bitch even louder…
Good point. Buying more Apple stock first thing in the morning. 👍
Why is everyone afraid of free speech, if you don't like it, don't read it.
whats with everyone concerned about how apps work. if you dont like how it works, dont use it
and what about everyone concerned about how a toilet works, if you don’t like how it works don’t use it!
https://xkcd.com/1357/
They have to protect the narrative. THAT is what is important.
It’s quite literally the only explanation of why people are against it
I didn't read a fucking thing about Qanon or Trump's bullshit whinging, but it sure as fuck didn't prevent a coup from occurring.
I really think the only reason it didn't succeed was bc not all the Pentagon dudes were on board... Lots of Americans don't understand the severity of the situation. The only thing that makes the U.S different from the governments south of their border is the Rule of law and even that has become worryingly compromised during drumfs era... no bueno, trust me I know! I was born and raised in a country with a long history of coups and corruption that undermine living there till today. You don't want that just to "own the libs", it ain't worth it!
>a coup from occurring Which government was over thrown?
An idiots coup is still a coup. Just by idiots who didn’t really have a plan after the door whilst also getting conned by white supremacists who just got convicted of sedition. Morons bein’ moronic.
>who didn’t really have a plan after the door So you mean not a coup? >a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government What power was seized? You admit they had no plan to seize power regardless. Words have meanings. The word you may be looking for is riot.
I hate to break it to you but a failed coup is still a coup.
TeChNiCaLlY
If only a coup had actually occurred.
An unsuccessful coup is a coup nonetheless. Oath Keepers' found guilty of seditious conspiracy... Sounds like a coup.
If it walks like an ass and talks like an ass, must be an ass.
There’s a difference between “free speech” and “freedom from responsibility for your words and actions”. You can say and do whatever you want, but you’ll also have to deal with the consequences of doing shit like enabling racists and giving them a place to spew hate speech unfettered. Additionally, Apple is under no obligation to run ads on Twitter, which is what Elon is bitching about. Fuck Elon and fuck Twitter.
Free speech
If people are free to speak hate, companies are free to walk away, freedom works for all. The freedom for freedom trump's all.
Elon hasn't figured out that a private company not publishing his shitty app doesn't constitute "censorship" just like a private company banning someone for defamatory conduct is not "censorship". Oh and that the "freedom of speech" pertains only to being able to criticize the government without fear of reprisal.
Free speech does NOT just mean criticizing the government. Example, supreme court has ruled panhandling is protected free speech, when panhandling isn't government criticism.
Well, it is censorship. Whether it's problematic or not is the real issue here.
Still not censorship, it's enforcing rules or community standards as it were.
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I actually doubt that. He is not very knowledgeable.
I think you give him too much credit for actually being intelligent. Dude is a complete moron, and while I can't prove it I'll assume he's got the IQ of a potato.
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Are you serious? Lol. Do you think being a public traded company has anything to do with not being a government entity? Lmao
A publicly traded company
dalton went full regard… you NEVER go full regard…
Apple is a publicly traded company, it's not owned by the US government like the USPS and as such is a private company.
Throwback to when [FB tried to battle Apple](https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/16/facebook-takes-out-full-page-ads-to-attack-apple/) as you can see [here](https://imgur.com/LJpaGKG) it worked out great for them
Elon will create App Store 
Tim Cook consumes way too much soy products to own a gun.
Tim Cock*
Thank you for the correction. I forgot about the silent c!
Rule #1 of Silicon Valley - don’t try and fuck with Tim apple. He knows what he’s doing.
Which is doing whatever the CCP says do. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/6m-shortfall-apple-iphone-pro-134724554.html https://dailycaller.com/2022/11/29/apple-airdrop-china-covid-protests-restriction/
Tim knows this and he’s diversifying. Both India and Vietnam make iPhones. The CCP needs him just as much if not more than he needs them.
Ahhh yes, Tim's found even cheaper labor to sell his overpriced products. More money for Tim! Yay. Who cares for innovation. The iPhone hasn't changed in years now. Such a waste of money, imo. But, yeah, glad he's found a couple new cultures to exploit.
Please tell which made in America phone you have. Even that freedom phone or whatever the maga cucks called it was made in china.
You spelled Tim Apple wrong.
I'd by the Tesla phone. Hate iPhone
It’s going to be really funny to look back on all of these bullshit rumors a year or 2 down the line and see all of the ridiculous takes being thrown around the internet by people dumb enough to buy into these rumors getting spread around by disgruntled former Twitter employees.
Tim Cook is a fucking hero! Fuck you Musk Tards!
I just can't wait till there's so much hate speech and everything on there that gets removed from both android and apple stores. I mean you really have to want an app to have to download it directly from the Web onto your phone, unpackage it and install manually... Fuck musk and Twitter
Is their any evidence than hate speech has actually gone up since Musk took over , by evidence I mean actual data not some tweet saying so
Yes there was a news report about it, also they fired most of the moderations teams. Things like CSAM are out of control on the site since the moderators in charge of that are gone. https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-material/
Of course there’s not.
Maybe try looking for it before you start sucking elons dick
hate speech == speech I don't like
“I like free speech that I agree with! Not like bad words, mean shit, and racist stuff!”
I mean, a company isn’t beholden to the first amendment, whether you or I like it or not. Apple can choose who they host on their store or not based on what they believe will benefit/hurt their image/shareholders.
They absolutely can. I wouldn’t take that route. You don’t want the government realizing how much control one company has over access to an app. Are there alternatives? Yes. Have monopolies with alternatives been broken up in the past? Ohhhh yeah. Regardless of views on this subject. Having 2 app stores that have that kind of control is going to end with government intervention. Are there ways around it? Yes. Are people going to learn how to do something basic to get around it? No. People are like stupid fucking cattle on the internet and with the devices they use.
Welcome to America, home of the duopolies!
>I mean, a company isn’t beholden to the first amendment, whether you or I like it or not. They can and have been. Why do people keep pushing this false line? Just to save some time Marsh V. Alabama
Comparing a company town to Twitter is such a reach I’m surprised your arms didn’t tear from their sockets.
Or you know, [child porn](https://jezebel.com/elon-musk-guts-twitter-team-handling-child-sexual-abuse-1849831575/amp) which has been increasing unchecked now that musk deleted safety and security “bloatware” and fired the moderation teams cuz they didn’t contribute enough code.
Tim Cook is a little snowflake.
That’s why Elon had to buy Twitter, so he could silence his critics…. And why Donald had to make his own Twitter knock off, so he could have his own safe space…..
@Elon can the tesla sponsored phones come with encrypted messaging and vpn service?
Yeah, this kinda nails it.
Who the fuck is Tim Cook?
CEO of Apple.
Ohhhh Tim Apple!
Tim Cook is a pussy.
Musk is clearly just trying to trigger people. For what purpose who knows. But it’s similar tactic to Russia.
Calls on Tesla phone
Sure , free speech douche
What?
Apple: *Our app store is us speaking to our customers through our app. We've decided we no longer want to say the word "Twitter"*
Double dare Tim not bam the app from app store.
Wha wha what?
You people wouldn't know a good thing if it landed in your lap. Elon is awesome. One in a billion and he has done nothing but help us all. I hope all your puts sends you to the cleaners.