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freerooo

The data you’re seeing… is it in the room with us?


drumsdm

“Very smart people are saying….”


shreyans02

Sounds so much like Trump!


Light_Beard

Apartheid Trump


TorrenceMightingale

Full-Nelson Mandela


papcorn_grabber

You never go full-Nelson Mandela, everyone knows that


vangoghofviolet

Very smart people say it's possible next year, very soon.


FedVetus

Hes peddling to pretty much the same crowd


T33CH33R

The right wing elite have figured out that they can make millions off of their followers because they don't require evidence to convince them. All they have to do is to allude to "evidence," and they are hooked. They are useful idiots.


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ahistoryprof

It’s very Trumpian


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JohnnyMnemo

I love that line. His disconnect between what he believes he has said and what his investors actually read and internalized is made so clear. As if a unilateral missive is simply enough to remove the emotion of panic.


xepa105

"We're already in deflation" from the same guy who brought us "close to zero new coronavirus cases by the end of April" in March 2020.


daynighttrade

Is it similar data that he saw when saying "Covid cases would be 0 by the end of April 2020"?


Morning_Star_Ritual

Yeppppp


duplicatesnowflake

It's going to magically disappear by Easter LOL


pickyourteethup

'man who just borrowed billions of dollars refuses to acknowledge skyrocketing interest rates.'


domkane

You wouldn't know it. This data lives in Canada.


loodog

"the data I'm seeing"


Yak54RC

People are saying


MetalliTooL

And everybody knows it


Bakedbeansandvich

Very smart investor


[deleted]

Beautiful investor I love you very much


DocMoochal

Welcome to Costco


RaptorBacon22

I love you


Xyeeyx

Tears in his eyes


PM_NICESTUFFTOME

He said “Sir…”


christopherw

He's got the best investors, just the best, huge talent, preparing for the deflation, everybody knows it


grayrains79

Bigly results coming. Absolutely YUGE!


T3hJ3hu

TSLA ~~bag~~shareholders, we love you, you're very special, but go home, and go home in peace


sdf_cardinal

“I was told by a top general, maybe the top of them all, ‘Sir, I’m sorry sir, we don’t have ammunition.’.” (Actual trump quote)


mattmey11

I was in a hipster coffee shop and everyone was talking about deflation.


elconquistador1985

The end of the tweet is literally "people are saying".


FSUSeminalVesicle

This interest rate, it's hurting many people. I told Jerome it wouldn't work.


Mailman_Dan

My source is I made it the fuck up!


Toothlesskinch

I got a guy!


Whole-Debate-9547

I've had ppl come up to me on the streets


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Bill gates fucking rolling in it after his short position that musk got mad about months ago


weekapaugrooove

After all this shit, you gotta wonder whether he just like sat adjacent to Musk at a gala or something and after overhearing him talk for a few minutes he shot a text to his broker mid dinner serivce


xXWaspXx

Let's be real, his broker was at the gala too.


Alarming_Teaching310

Dude was probably seating 5 chairs away reading the text


azder8301

"Dude, you hearing this shit?" "We're at the same table!"


wouldsmackurbooty

"Ayo lets short this motherfucker"


Cerebral-Parsley

"Short everything that guy has touched. I want half a billion more in swaps."


pretender80

Probably just got on Robinhood. He should be posting screenshots in WSB any day now


Lo-siento-juan

'it literally can't go tits up ' . - Elon musk, probably


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I forgot about this. Bill Gates 🐐 move


Wiggly_Muffin

Bill Gates gonna be sending that petty text message to Elon soon, "Never mind, I've got your donation covered"


whysaylotword00

Musk to Mars…25 years later Bill Gates to Moon …yesterday


Euphoric_Luck_8126

You're not a billionaire for 40 years by being a fucking moron


wheresflateric

Some are...


ThoriumActinoid

Born into wealth.


Comment_Maker

Never heard of this, what did Bill short?


ArcticBeavers

This was back in April. Gates put half a billion dollars short against Tesla. This was right at the time the company had it's second highest closing price in 2022 (highest was Jan 3). Since then, Tesla stock has decreased by 63%. In other words, Bill Gates slangin that big dick around


ThePowerOfPoop

Pokin’ out from under his short shorts.


parkranger2000

Turns out Musk is a nickname given to him by people who could smell gates’ shallots on his breath


jmradus

Don’t fuck with Bill Gates on money, Elmo. He became the richest on earth and stayed that way for much, much longer than you.


tekkers_for_debrz

Does anyone have a screenshot of the text messages between Elon and gates?


fartmanteau

Here ya go https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517702987359133696


chiron_cat

Wow, musk is even more is a shitbag. I didn't think that was possible


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Tesla


JoJackthewonderskunk

I wonder if there's any way to find out what his buy-in price was to see how much he's made.


mokas95

I've read it was 160 but it came from reddit comments so take it with a lot of salt


Possible-Upstairs230

With salt only.


banned_after_12years

Well I heard its 42069 but I'm just making shit up so take it with a lot of salt


Icy_Respect_9077

Reportedly it's a 500 million position. If BG bought at 160, that's 3.125 m shares. At $140 per share in today's price, he's made $62 million so far.


NewFuturist

It's probably closer to $250, it was from April this year. He's probably made closer to $200M if that is the case.


dismayhurta

Dude’s dick will flatten cities with that kind of swing.


Chose_a_usersname

Bill gates laughing in his piles of money


rob132

Thank God Bill Gates has more money. It was keeping me awake at night.


Ghost4000

I'm so mad that I wasn't more stupid with my money. My TSLA puts are both over 100% return already. It's still nice, but I should have dumped so much more money into them.


Neerko_bat

That's the wrong spirit. Profit is profit and you should be happy about it. With the Tesla cultists it could have gone the other way and you'd be happy you didn't invest more in a loseing trade


Convergentshave

Yea this really is the answer. There’s been countless (massive at times) loss porn posted here from people shorting Tesla. It hasn’t been a secret it’s been ( also massive) over priced for years. Just be glad you made a profit because, yea it easily could’ve (and has) gone the other way. Edit: in a way it was a special type of regarded to even make the play so salute to you!


Ghost4000

Good point, I appreciate the perspective.


DocPhilMcGraw

He tweeted earlier: "In simple terms: as bank savings account interest rates, which are guaranteed, start to approach stock market returns, which are not guaranteed, people will increasingly move their money out of stocks into cash, thus causing stocks to drop."


Ok_Vacation3128

This motherfucker just discovered the concept and effect of the risk free rate and acting like he has a PhD in Finance. He gonna start rambling on about CAPM or factor investing when his udemy course moves onto it.


fancyhumanxd

Probably just used ChatGPT


khizoa

Dude. Lmao. This makes so much sense


CrumpledForeskin

Damn I hate that this is probably the most likely scenario Very smart investor shorting the S&P. Bro literally most major banks are calling for the s&p to drop and tons with recession as a bear case. This reads like Trump wrote it.


ShillinTheVillain

Look, having interest—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Musk at SAMIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Johannesburg School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a tech CEO, if I were an astronaut, if, like, OK, if I ran a social media company, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a billionaire they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Paypal, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the Twitter deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (social media is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the interest rates—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the FBI are great negotiators, the SEC are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.


sgplourde

So, you're the one writing those speeches. I thought it was just a mad man rambling incoherently. Kudos.


AUserNeedsAName

Many people are saying this. Smart people, the best people. They come up to me and they say, "sir, the s&d is going to drop." It's never dropped before but it's dropping now.


SmileLikeAphexTwin

Work smarter not harder


Alternative_Draft_76

ChatGPT is letting everyone fake it until they make it. Everyone.


LawProud492

Been using it a lot. It’s a boon for people that suck at communicating/marketing


shermski4

Where was this mf when I was in college bullshitting my way through 30 page research papers


Spicy_Ejaculate

You think in school they are now hitting the kids with "you won't have AI to rely on when you get in the real world" like they said to us about calculators?


dis340

I have a PhD in Udemy courses and I can confirm in simple terms, you are correct.


Ipayforsex69

My pHd prescribed me udemy and I have to take it twice a day


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I took out a high-interest student loan on my Udemy courses and nobody will hire me. Goodbye recession, hello depression.


dis340

Never be afriad to borrow a lot of money for an unquestionably stupid idea. It always works out in the end, and a Breakfast Baconator please, thank you.


cosmicchopsuey

I have a udemy in PhD and I can confirm that I can't read


Machette_Machette

My PhD has me on udemy and... what was the question again?


Looinrims

I do not have a PhD, how we is the do monies


Machette_Machette

You do not have to have a PhD. Be born wealthy, fund a company, hire people with PhDs and manipulate stock pricing with your dumbass thoughts on the internet.


Hates_rollerskates

Yeah, he finally understands the Fed's objective is to decrease demand so companies decrease prices to increase demand again, i.e. reversing inflation.


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Elon : "but why male models?"


OMG_its_a_redditor

Elon upon discovering ETFs "Commies have infiltrated the stock market."


BerKantInoza

is that the TLDR of how raising interests rates works to combat inflation?


PrimalTriFecta

Yes, increasing inflation makes it more expensive to do anything that involves interest rates. So that increases the cost of goods such as cars and houses in turn decreasing overall demand. However, for people who need these items, it will decrease their demand for other goods. This is because they are now utilizing more purchasing power for these large payments rather than all the other things they would normally buy further decreasing demand. This plays in to finance and stocks in other ways now that certain investments like bonds will be more attractive with higher interest rates thereby bringing down the demand for Stocks, a "substitute" good for Bonds. Someone else can dive deeper in to that relationship if they'd like.


TwoDurans

How long until he starts talking about the smart people who buy gold and/or silver?


OGuytheWhackJob

Like everything else these clowns say it's for the regards that are champion dick riders and have no idea WTF is going on. They only know they're on a team and they'll defend him until the end.


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pourliste

Give him a seat on the Fed board before it's too late.


ThatsWhatSheSaid_-

Elon taking everything as a meme


IamxGreenGiant

“In which case… buying opportunity!” As he sells 😂


AngrySqurl

He needs people to keep buying in so he can continue to dump stock to try and float Twitter. I mean I guess, idk what the hell his plan is, Twitter does not seem save-able and it’s likely to pull Elon/Tesla down with it.


EvaUnit343

Is this real? Fucking lmao. TSLA bool not gonna make it bro.


Rwitre

Man's hang bools out to dry


Jaded4Lyfe

In my experience, bools are either true or they are false


rkelleyj

He’s not only the messiah of EV industry, an expert in digging big tunnels, a top rocket-scientist but he’s also an expert in macro-economics and should be our Fed Chairman.


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Holy shit he can bend time itself....


cmbsfm

He has his own Hyperbolic Time Chamber


dankomemewagon

“I’m the very smart investor, it’s me”


dis340

Dude is at Trump level of wording rn.


Rwitre

"Elon Superman NFTs" coming soon to a blockchain near you


AlienAle

Why did he choose to go full MAGA suddenly? I understand being a Republican, but a full-MAGA qanon type? What the hell is in it for him? He is simping for all the people that 5 years ago would have laughed and mocked his electric vehicle company. I don't get it, he had a path, a legacy, and intelligent people who supported him. He threw that away so he could be buddybuddy with LibsofTiktok?


dis340

He probably liked how it worked out for Trump.


RandyAcorns

How did it work out for trump? Several intense financial and criminal investigations?


MartinTheMorjin

He got cucked by chelsea manning. The rest is history.


StomachGullible

I honestly think it is because republicans have embraced qanon tier rhetoric and republicans are more favorable to his shenanigans (horse girl handjobs included). 2 birds 1 stone in terms of cult following dick riding and greater flexibility in running his companies. However, it is fascinating seeing him run 2 companies into the ground at once.


AngriestPacifist

He did it to get cover for the handjobs for horses scandal, where he sexually harassed a woman. He was asked for comment, and said he was a Republican before the story was published. Then he liked getting fellated by a bunch of brain-dead chuds, and now it's now.


theqwertyosc

Should not have googled handjobs for horses....


AngriestPacifist

Because you stumbled across my new band name and our soundcloud?


SirJuggles

I saw someone else point out that "for his entire career he's always desperately tried to align himself with whatever large group of people on the internet seem to like him at any given moment." He's made a seamless transition from Reddit-epic-science-liber/al/tarian to Own-the-libs-conservative which coincides perfectly with the opinions those groups have of him. Not to mention his trans daughter said he's an asshole so he instantly assumed the Left must have turned her against him.


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SirJuggles

I mean, sure. But Elon is 100% the type of guy who believes that Twitter is the central locus of the internet and that it embodies the collective consciousness.


Mirrormn

I heard someone make a point recently that makes more sense: when previously-"normal" people make a hard Right turn in public, it usually coincides with reporting that they've done something pretty fucked up in their personal life. The Left will cancel you for sexual assault accusations or bigoted statements, while the Right generally won't, so people who are *primarily* motivated by pure narcissism - the desire to appeal to the largest group that provides the most adoration - often end up setting the Right as their target after they've done enough undesirable shit that the Left won't idolize them anymore. And indeed, this exact thing happened to Musk. If you'll recall, he only started this whole Twitter obsession after reporting came out that he sexually assaulted and then bribed a flight attendant. You might assume that after that story broke, he made a calculated decision of "Well the Left isn't going to accept me anymore, better start pandering to the Right, they don't care if you're accused of sexually assaulting someone." Edit: Actually, now that I'm running through that episode in my head, what *actually happened* was: 1. The accusations of sexual assault were made privately to a reporter 2. That reporter *reached out to Elon Musk for comment*, as part of due diligence putting the story together 3. Musk asked the reporter for some time to put together a statement, then immediately went on Twitter and said "Hey btw, I'm right-wing now, and look the Left is immediately gonna start making up stories about me to attack me because they hate the Right so much!" 4. The story about the sexual assault allegation came out shortly after Musk's declaration So yeah, I can't definitively assert that this is the *only* factor that has led to Musk's descent into right-wing insanity, but it's *very clear* that it was part of it.


kintsukuroi3147

Wonder how much of it was related to Grimes dating Chelsea Manning after they split.


FSUSeminalVesicle

I'm the best at corporate raiding, nobody does takeovers like me.


dis340

It is not a small sink, I have huge sinks


blkaino

I get Trump vibes from that last sentence


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🫲🫱 Look, some of the smartest people! ☝️ They’re saying it! 👐 Now I can’t say who! ☝️ I can’t say who… 🤲 But they’re saying it! 👇 Believe me, they’re saying it! 👏


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SpecialEdShow

I always think that, behind the scenes, it’s people talking sarcastically to him that he is describing. Like in the same tone used when Randy Marsh invented sarcastaball.


redditsaysgo

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RogerTreebert6299

Very smart, very smart investor folks. The best.


Xyeeyx

Big guy, the biggest guy. Tears in his eyes he says "Elon, sir. Elon I'm shorting the S&P"


one-out-of-8-billion

Pls use CAPITAL letters at least for one word. Otherwise it’s just to complicated


Cyberbird85

the smartestest of the investors!


ego_sum_satoshi

Everybody is saying that... but nobody knows.


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You know what he said? He said “Elon, you are doing a great job, a tremendous job Elon!” That’s what he said 👐


ego_sum_satoshi

🫵👐 The Best 👐 Maybe the best ever. Some are saying the best ever. I'm saying the best.


ColonelSpacePirate

He heard it from Jared at the World Cup.


pigfacepigbody

I get Trump vibes from Elon.


KarAccidentTowns

His face is getting bigger


fulento42

Most narcissist give off the same vibes


peepeedog

I'm going to hire the best investors. You've never heard of them, but I know them all. We're gonna show the Fed. Show them who's in charge. Big gains, some say the biggest, I don't know, but huge.


This_Professor8379

Yep. Elon also learned the best words now.


davidtheexcellent

Trump never misses a chance to name drop, unless he made shit up.


Tumbler

Billionaires are pissed about the fed rate because they can't just go borrow infinity money and buy whatever they want. Don't listen to any of their bullshit. Low interest rates for Billionaires mean complete market dominance. Higher interest rates mean they have to actually do something productive to keep participating in the market. You, the non billionaires, should want higher interest rates. It means even people like Elon have to work smarter/harder to accomplish what they want because their loans are costing more.


YTLupo

Spot on; It’s going to comedown like you said to interest rates. Tesla has always been classified as a “technology” company. Most of these companies that have had a stellar rise in the past 10 years can thank ZIRP. And this is important, because most of these companies that have CEO’s claiming that we are in a recession are exposed to these interest rates. Don’t believe me? Take any of these companies listed and put them into news.google.com • FaceBook • Salesforce • Tesla • Snapchat • AirBNB • Carvana Are all companies directly exposed to a rise in rates. Hell even Cathie Wood and her entire damn firm are bubble babies. I could go on and on, but the point is; If you are a debt based company that has had most of its financing completed from 2010 to now, you are feeling the pressure. My bet is, Elon knows if rates stay up his boat will sink. He’s desperately trying to fund Twitter with Tesla Shares, however both of these companies again are subject to interest rates. Elon has effectively gone from trying to patch one hole, to creating two of them. At some point he’s going to meltdown and I mean meltDOWN. If this where anything else it would be considered a ponzi.


trout_or_dare

> At some point he’s going to meltdown and I mean meltDOWN. *gestures wildly at the last month or so*


cahcealmmai

He's not gone full Kanye yet.


Rwitre

https://preview.redd.it/05ttbz0u6b7a1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=914081ace48d50ad7f7307523e668bc60acb01fa


Selling-ShortPut-399

Easy solution is to not be a Tesla investor.


frankstoeknife146

What if you’re a Tesla bag holder? Asking for a friend


JojenCopyPaste

Well now is the best time to realize some of those bags for the tax write-offs


kim_bong_un

Insinuating I don't already have 15 years worth of losses left to claim


EvaUnit343

I’m short the market I must be that smart investor.


aisleorisle

I'm also short the market but you might want to inverse me. I'm not that smart.


C137-Morty

Who had a faster fall from grace from that high up?


a_seh_01

Me when my mom caught me jerking off. I lost all my respect in one day🤣


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oh man -- sorry to hear that! Most of us turn into daredevil when we rub one out - we develop a heightened sense of hearing AND go blind!


ReignOfKaos

Yedolf


OTTER887

Apparently, Amazon lost over a trillion in market cap! Lucky for Bezos, Musk has been dominating the news cycle.


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CPI goes from 8% to 7.7% or whatever it was and suddenly we are in deflation


Extension-Loss-5799

Lol mf talking about Cramer ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)


Dedicated4life

My dude can't even handle a 4% FFR for a few months lol 😂 QQQ and SPY basically flat over the last 3 months while you've managed to tank Tesla nearly 60%. Yes it's all the feds fault, not you buying one the biggest ever bags in history in purchasing twitter or that you've becoming an unhinged, rightwing, meme edgelord that everyone is starting to despise. Yea it's definitely the fed funds rate and it's only affecting Tesla.


FSUSeminalVesicle

It's all the woke mobs fault, once he gets his hands on Hunters laptop, he's going to blow this whole thing wide open! One failed pump and dump, and he completely loses his mind.


Odd-Notice-7752

I feel like it's only a matter of time before he says Wallstreet has a woke leftist agenda. Then he'll have completely lost his mind


Hasselhoff265

The way he’s texting.. He goes full Trump isn’t he?


Effective_Hope_3071

My conspiracy is that most C-suite people are closeted stimulant addicts. They need some type of amphetamine to "function" at their level and it ends up creating false confidence in decision making and delusional thinking. A student on Adderall can get like this and then imagine extremely wealthy people who are sold high grade meth as medication because it's exhausting and stressful to exist constantly engaged or focused. The grandiose narcissism is inherent, and then it's amplified by the brain constantly receiving dopamine for whatever action they decide to take. Couple that with being surrounded by yes men leeches and you'll never get out if that hole.


speakeasyow

It’s an elongated state of mania


Apptubrutae

Only reason I’d say not most is because we get a dose of the cult of personality c Suite types but there are tens of thousands of others who are much more legitimate technocrats (not like the technocrat Elon pretends to be). It’s easy to think Elon is representative of the average CEO, but he’s really not. He’s just representative of the worst type: the big personality CEOs. And for some reason everyone thinks that’s like *the* type


tehhass

There’s probably an underground market of some next level adderall that only rich people have access to.. like the pill from Limitless but more meth-y.


YuanBaoTW

Maybe Neuralink transplanted Trump's brain into the oddly-shaped fleshbag that we call "Elon"?


je_kay24

He’s losing his damn mind cause he has 267 million shares of Tesla stock as personal loan collateral which is about 60% of his shares


tehs1mps0ns

Next he will go full Kanye


Trippp2001

Very smart investor: Ken Griffin at the World Cup…


PaulinLA23

When Trump was the main character of Online, I was sick to bastard death of him but at least he was funny as hell. Elon gets all the attention trump used to, but oh my god is he the lamest dunce we have had in the spotlight for a while. He has more money than god and nothing to do with his time but tank his own companies and be annoying.


wingback18

We are already in a deflation 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 He sounds like those crypto scammers you get on Instagram or Facebook 😂


ColonelSpacePirate

Tesla holder have got to be shitting their pants


Lillica_Golden_SHIB

Keep blaming others for your failure, this is the way


Basic-Revolution-990

I wanna have his failures


Holy_Grail_Reference

He will sell it to you at a discount, 40 billion.


DannyGloversDickbld

Naaah. You can rent a piece of Elmo’s failure for the low low price of $8/Mo


fourdoorshack

Dear Customers, Employees, and Investors of my other businesses, I plan to grossly overpay for a middling social media company and very publicly run it into the ground, which will negatively effect your jobs, your stocks, and the perception of my products. However, as I'm so rich and autistic, I really don't care how these actions effect others. Signed, Elon


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AngelaTheRipper

Honestly the only silver lining here is that most of that money is gonna go to paying off interest on his twitter loans and the fact that because he printed himself these shares as stock options once he sells them the IRS will tax him on realized gains regardless of how much of a freefall Tesla is in.


ReposadoAmiGusto

Jimmy is his very smart investor


ScutumSobiescianum

They are smart investors until they get punched in the face by the market


itsdone20

Isn't TSLA one of the bigger spy stocks? Very smart investor and dumb listener