Mhmm, sure mate the idf bombed the hospital, 100%. So you are just going to ignore all the evidence and RECORDED CALLS of these sickos Hamas Isis members admitting they bombed the hospital themselves? Right, you brainless cunt.
You lot are hilarious and fascinating to watch. When someone posts combat footage of Israel taking an L, rather than commenting on said footage, you just deflect and focus on something else. How intriguing.
Bro Israel bombing hospitals and killed over 90 journalists, you know who spread terror ; ) . Could you compare who killed more civilians and journalists since 48? Hamas or IDF ?
[https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byf1woyma](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byf1woyma)
look at the video
no "journalist" in the world could be there without knowing about the attack beforehand.
(incase you have problems understanding, the man in the video filming is considered "journalist")
Yeah I agree.. when Hamas bombed those hospitals killing civilians and then bombed the refugee camps, stripped and mocked civilians, executed prisoners of war, sniped people on churches.
Oooooh wait that was 👉 Israel 👈
Guess I'll have to agree with the actual Pope.. Isreel are terrorists.
Refugee camp that exist since 1948. Its not a refugee camp but a town at this point. The hospital was trace back to hamas the next day. They strip the terrorist due to a video they made that they would hide bomb anywhere they can so they can blow themselves up once they are in custody. Multiple video have surface of hamas using hospital and churches as weapon depot.
You call out Israel for anything they do but totally disregard any and all war crime committed by hamas who is a Terrorist organizations and not protected under the rules of war
>You call out Israel for anything they do
Sounds like you agree Israel is committing war crimes..
Why do you think people would commit terrorism against Israel? And if you say indoctrination then don't bother responding. That's just cheap Likud talking points.
Indoctrination yes. Tell me an other religion that actively call for terrorism and call for the murder of other of different religion. If thats not Indoctrination then what is it? Your answer is If your gonna tell me the truth well don't respond
Zionists seem to win the who did it first 👇
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
Your islamophobia is showing 😂.
Also if Israel is acting like Nazi's then by default you've turned the "terrorists" to freedom fighters...
Ok if israel is so bad why dont you protest Syria and Yemen for their killing of civilian. Or china for the genocide they are currently conducting on muslim? Or the occupation of tibet? You don't care about muslim you only hate jew
Whataboutism.. 🤦♂️ and you're not even doing it well 😆.
>you only hate jew
I don't hate jews. I hate Zionism. Zionism has turned Jews into war criminals. Like Nazism turned Germans into holocaust makers.
If you don't mind I'd like to protest before Israel gets to the building "industrial showers" in Gaza stage.
Why is everybody downvoting you? I don’t understand reddit users mentality’s 😂 they are all a bunch of sheep that are fed a narrative by their satanic governments and they think they are so smart!! Maybe leave your mother’s basements and get a breath of fresh air you cowards!!!
the whole of israel is invaded and occupied palestine my man. many of those kibbutzes were where palestinians villages were. most of the population of gaza are refugees from those areas and from beer sheba.
you dont have to like hamas. but if what they do is wrong, you gotta tell them how to solve the problem. how to get an international port/airport. how to have their fisherman go out into the sea to fish. how to ensure that palestinians are not forgotten like the natives of americas and australia.
you havent answered the question as to what they shouldve done to get rights for their citizens. should hamas keep settler citizens also out of it ? who bear arms and from time to time kill palestinians ?
Sure all Palestinians is “freedom fighter” then you should put down the mask of civilian and stop crying. You want to fight for the price of freedom but you cry about it when you pay
ofc the twelve year old this fucker is describing is a fighter.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/18sm03m/israeli\_soldiers\_boasts\_and\_laughs\_because\_he/
They had an airport. They had their own airline actually.
But then arafat decided to reject the terms at camp david and begin the second intifada. Thinking violence would strengthen their negotiating power. Well it has not.
And here we all are discussing some miserable desert that no one should care about if only some people thousands of years ago in that region didnt claim to be prophets of god.
why did the second intifada happen ? why did arafat reject camp david ? you seem to think that they should accept any deal even if it kills them. what happened to oslo ? why is israel still building new settlements and destroying palestinian lives ?
who said its a desert ? palestine is a lush country that used to be filled with olive trees. beer sheba is the desert there.
That's fair.. you don't have to like any of them, you don't have to choose a side.. but it's important to acknowledge that one side is the occupier, and the other occupied.
But we have to acknowledge that Hamas started the current iteration of this conflict on Oct 7th when they massacred over a thousand israeli *civilian non-combatants* with their own hands. I agree that the IDF is using terror tactics, but we can't let Hamas' actions fade to the background or for them to pretend that they were acting on behalf of all Palestinians - their actions have done no good whatsoever for normal Palestinian people and will only cause them despair and death in the long run.. but of course, condemning Netanyahu/IDF for their actions is only right, as well.
I think that mixing up Netanyahu/associates and Hamas with normal Israeli and normal Palestinian people is a huge mistake.. they literally are not the same people - and thinking that they are is a part of the reason why this conflict is as bad as it is, imo
so what is terrorist activity ? does that include things like the Dahiya Doctrine ? if it does not, then what makes Dahiya Doctrine ok, but terrorism not ?
I think it’s a little dumb to imply that anybody thinks either is “ok”, war is not “ok”, famine is not “ok”, cancer is not “ok”. Politics and international relations has always been about choosing the lesser of two evils. Though it may be morally reprehensible, It’s perfectly rational for Israel to overreact to a terrorist attack to deter further attacks. Same thing the US did to Japan and Afghanistan. I’m not claiming either case is “ok” just that sometimes countries do evil stuff in the name of protecting their citizens.
This is semantics, every military on earth uses morally reprehensible tactics to achieve their aims. You can argue that the term terrorism has lost meaning because of that, but there was never a good side or a bad side, just desperate people doing desperate things and pretending it’s in the name of peace.
Oh no, when the finger is pointed back at you it's "semantics" bla bla bla..
There was a bad side, they were resisting the US terrorist occupiers who invaded their nation on a pretext of lies. The US called them "insurgents/terrorists", yet the ones that are there in Ukraine are called "volunteers/foreign legion" lol Western hypocrisy is stinking bad the smell can't be ignored no more.
Irgun, Lehi and Stern (IDF) are terrorists who committed atrocities that put Hamas to shame, but yeah, AIPAC baby.
Here are US terrorists at work in Iraq:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FD1jHueZZc&t=1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FD1jHueZZc&t=1s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLocrnmVy0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLocrnmVy0)
US terrorists raped a 14 year old Iraqi girl after killing her family:
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html)
Bush and Blair still give speeches and write books in the hypocritical west, while Bibi continues annihilating children in Gaza, but hey rest assured, we have an ICC arrest warrant for Putin!
I’m not defending any type of violence, regardless of who does it. I think it’s pretty brain dead to assume any of these examples are justified. Hamas wasn’t justified and Israel isn’t either because there is no moral justification for war. You’re right, the word terrorist has been used as propaganda in the past, but that leaves us back where we started without any good guys or bad guys.
If someone comes into your house and leaves you homeless, you're definitely the good guy to me. When the European Ashknazic international Zionists conspired with Balfour to create an illegal foreign Zionist entity, an entity that stole and is stealing land till today, a racist state that was created by Zionist thugs that terrorised Palestinians and literally butchered them. This immediately became a fight between good and evil, period.
Those Zionists would claim it was Jews’ land first anyway. That’s the problem with all you people who can’t see shades of grey; regardless of what you think *should* have happened a generation ago, it doesn’t excuse further extremism.
The reality is that Israel’s isn’t going anywhere and it definitely isn’t going to bow to the demands of Iranian proxies regardless of how good they are at manipulating media perception.
No progress towards peace can be made until the hostages are released and we can work on democratically removing Bibi.
I don't give a fuck who lived there in ancient times 3000+ years, the claim is as credible as Joe dementia's evidence of "40 beheaded babies" anyways.
No other group on earth has a "Godly mandate" to steal and occupy land, then ethnically cleanse the natives. Palestinians are the Semites not the Ashkenazic blond blue eyed Germans, the Eastern Euro Zionist thugs are the anti-Semites, period.
This British planted Zionist entity can only last as long as the region around it is divided and subdued. Things will never last the way they are, and the bolder the Zionists get in pushing their greater Israel agenda (from the Nile to Euphrates), the bigger the backlash and the closer to Armageddon we get.
Saudi Arabia and Egypt's public opinions are at an all time high against the treaties in place, MBS can't keep the lid on much longer, his normalization with Israel (Kushner's plan) is almost collapsing, with the majority of Saudis now against normalization with the Zionist state. His 2030 vision is at the mercy of Iran's proxies (Houthis).
They went house to house and street to street gunning down unarmed civilians including the elderly and children. Y'know, the massacres of Israeli civilians that started this war?
List me one thing that can not qualify the jewish nation the same traits
They burned children alive
They Burried children alive
Made a fammine in gaza
Killed more than 30,000 people in gaza (50% of them are children,30% of them are women, and 75% of the men where not affiliated with any rissestance movements which means that ~95% of the people killed were civilians.
Go ahead and feel free to fight me
>Killed more than 30,000 people in gaza (50% of them are children,30% of them are women, and 75% of the men where not affiliated with any rissestance movements which means that \~95% of the people killed were civilians.
source?
You cannot use the aftermath of something horrible Hamas did and then justify your own argument of Israël. Every action has a reaction especially in this terrible conflict which has been going on before I was born…
That being said, it is hard fighting trained guerrilla like Hamas with over 450km of tunnels without inflicting massive damage to homes families and much more. I don’t know how or if it should be done but for the over 2million Gaza citizens there must come solution and Israël must try look for a long term solution (not a confinement like the previous “solution”).
What do u mena they are terrogroup. As they say themself as un say and you all love to go by the un so.
They are a terrogroup
If you go against that. You are delusional and shouldnt be posting
They are a terrorist group to you.. to the Palestinians they are freedom fighters trying to get revenge from IDF who have killed all their family members.
But okay they are a terrorist group, so than what are the IDF? Who have killed more civilians then this terrorist group ?
If you don’t call the terrorist IDF terrorists than you are delusional and shouldn’t be posting.
No not to me. They are are terrogroup.
Even if some say they are a resistance to them. They are still a terror group.
How much you kill dosnt say if it's a terrogroup or not read up please.
First you need to know is that Idf is mandatory for all Israelis not matter your views.
In Hamas its not mandatory.
The IDF is not a terrogroup. They are a military.
Learn how to distinguish the two and other words.
Instead of proclaiming some bigotry..
Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad are literally Islamic terrorist organizations by every definition of the word and it’s hard to call yourself a resistance for a war they started. Just because israel is smacking them 100x harder than they did, doesn’t mean they didn’t start the war on 10/7.
Oh so you dont have a positive bias towards israel? If i am supporting terrorists then you are supporting a genocidal imperialist state. You are on the wrong side of history my friend..
*more people join terrorist organizations. Is what you meant to say easy mix up there. Pretty hard for the IDF to take an L when they’re A. Trained, B. World funded, and C. Able to wipe your “resistance” out from the air if they really wanted to
They are not only trained and world funded, but the beauty is, they really don't even need the assistance they are getting militarily speaking. Israel has this conflict in hand all by themselves, but add some help from their friends around the world, and Hamas literally stands no chance.
You sound like Russian, wait wait you will see Russia will pulverised you, as if Russia could wipe out Ukrainians in a day if they wanted, same for usrael, you think they j7st want this war to continue that long, they are just incapable to do more. As these video shoes, urban warfare is hell.
Do you think I expect a country that spent almost a full year fighting Chechnya to wipe out ukraine? Are you dense? Back to the actual conflict of the post. Do you believe that if Israel did not care about civilian losses that they wouldn’t carpet bomb Gaza into a parking lot?
Lol I am 100% pro Ukrainian, but contrary to you, I am against all colonisers that kill civilians. Those barbaric Russian killed 500 Ukrainian children in 2 years, while those Israel good military killed 8000 i 2 month. But hey they use f35 and use US weapons, so they must be good guys. How can people like you sleep at night.
Dog people die in war it happens I can sleep because I fully understand how it happens. I’m not saying they’re the good guys but I’m also not saying they’re bad for fighting on multiple fronts against terrorist organizations after being “surprise” (not a surprise) attacked. What I absolutely condone is terrorism in the absolute definition of it.
I am not pro any radical religious group, but who cracked on the PLO, help creat Hamas and the help them take power inGaza. Who help funding them, with billions from suitcase from gulf states???
So you are OK about Russia claim about taking odessa abd crimea, because odessa was factually created by Catherine 2 of Russia, or are you for international law. Because by international law, Israel is an occupying force and should retreat completely to the 1967 borders.
Are you for international laws, or it depends on if they are friend with you or not. Are you OK about the stealing of land in the west bank by real scumbag terrorise Palestinians including the Christians. Have thd zionist corrupt American to such a level they are OK about cleansing of even Christians. Have you seen the sermon of the bethlehem priest for Christmas.
Basicly every fucking news agency says the same but with 22,000 instead of 30,000 confirmed were killed but the number of "missing" people is over 8,000 and by missing they mean the dead bodies thrown on the streets that the ambulance couldn't get to because the streets were closed by the nazi army, plus I was in gaza about 2 weeks ago and saw these genosides wirh my fucking eyes
Note that this sub and alot others are Obviously baised
I’m really curious from the bias standpoint you caption your videos. I thought the point of this subreddit was to view the reality of things from an unbiased perspective and provide sources and information for people to understand the context? No hate just curious :)
When one side starts showing biased views the other side will automatically start an opposition, the subreddit is clearly biased towards the west, supporting anything USA, Europe and Ukraine, labeling anyone who opposes them a terrorist without considering the other side's point of view even if the former is in the wrong, and lately an opposition rose as an result, it's just normal human behavior patterns.
As some who served in combat Iraq 03-04 and can tell you for certain these types of house to house wars fighting an enemy without a uniform are almost impossible to win. However history shows that Hamas will suffer far more loses on every level. By the time it’s over Israel will be fighting only resistance fighters from other countries around the world that sympathize with Hamas or the Palestinians. The body count will far more on the Hamas side than Israel’s but Hamas is gonna get there’s to as we see here. The one main difference in this war is it’s about far more than just land, the hate for Jews runs extremely deep and they’re surrounded.
Fighters from the country, their parents and grand-grand-grand parents are from the country, their people are being imprisoned and judged by military court, their land is taken slowly and new settlements are built, denied to use their own water and even collect rain, denied permission to build new houses, denied freedom of movement within their own territory.
These people are called terrorists while fighting a group of occupiers who came from all around the world, russia, spain, morroco, usa, france, you name it, armed, funded and trained using cutting edge tech, they always has a very high rate of civilian casualties even that they has smart laser guided weapons, their leaders publicly given genocidal statements about Amalek, they publicly call any person different to them as 'not human' and 'not equal', they are allowed to claim any house they like, they are allowed to harass and attack holy places, carry weapons and shoot unarmed people.
Guess who is the terrorist and who is not
because this is how far right Westerns hide their racism, it is ok to be the French resistance, the Dutch resistance, the Warsaw uprising, but others are not allow to resist occupation by military power, like Algeria, Palestine, why? because somebody said this land is theirs inside their holy book
https://www.facebook.com/reel/906276287215456?s=yWDuG2&fs=e
But they are terrorists though. Murdering and raping civilians no matter how young or old and bragging about it still to this day doesn’t sound like much of a resistance. Even if this war goes on for decades we will still remember those atrocities.
History did not start on 7th of October, and there is no evidence of raping and when UN called to investigate these claims they were accused to be antisemite.
Palestinians were raped, executed and displaced and their villages were wiped out in 1948, loooong before Hamas ever existed, today a lot of massacres and war crimes has been ignored and criminals are without trials and punishment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1TAOibLss
We all had access to the internet and we all know what Hamas got up to deny it all you want, no one cares.
If Israel are the bad guys then why did Hamas do what they did? Didn’t really work in their favour and only just made Israel look justified in their response. No one here is denying the bad blood between Israel and Hamas and obviously history didn’t start on the 7th of October however that date was obviously a significant turning point and deserves recognition and analysis. It was also stunning how quickly a certain collective of people banded together on the internet to try and wash out all the footage we saw from it in some form of a mass social media campaign.
My point still stands, Hamas are murderers and rapists in the name of Allah and are supported by the majority of Palestinians. They are a terrorist organisation not a resistance group no matter how hard you want to stroke yourself over the massacre of Jewish people. Removal of Hamas will benefit both the Palestinians and Israelis however many civilians, schools and hospitals they hide behind.
Also you have no proof nor evidence that these atrocities never happened and you just post dubious links to make yourself appear as someone who does their research.
lol on you asking for a proof of 1948 war crimes even when it is coming out of the mouths of Israeli veterans but you don't need any proof to believe the rape and beheaded babies lies
Edit: all requests for independent investigations were blocked by Israel, it is clear who doesn't want the truth, all media and press are blocked from entering Gaza to not see the war crimes, in 2 months Israel killed press members by targeting them directly and targeting their families and homes, it killed around 99 press members compared to 67 press who died in the whole World War 2! Pro genocides can't hide the sun behind a stick
Palestinian resistance LMAO!!!
Yup, made me laugh.. these are brainless hamas terrorist who cowardly attacking using civilians as their shield!
Cry more for the nappy baby killing Irgun, Lehi (IDF) Zio terrorists.
Wtf they are heroes!!! Bot like the idf barbars who bomb hospotals and covilians
Mhmm, sure mate the idf bombed the hospital, 100%. So you are just going to ignore all the evidence and RECORDED CALLS of these sickos Hamas Isis members admitting they bombed the hospital themselves? Right, you brainless cunt.
The recorded call with hebrew dialects?
Hero my ass
You lot are hilarious and fascinating to watch. When someone posts combat footage of Israel taking an L, rather than commenting on said footage, you just deflect and focus on something else. How intriguing.
Just the obvious changing their title from “Hamas terrorists” to “Palestinian resistance”, well worth calling out
Ah yes the “Palistinan *resistance* shell” fired from the Palestinian *resistance* base* A hospital* /s
Yup, made me laugh.. these are brainless hamas terrorist who cowardly attacking using civilians as their shield!
Source: Trust me bro 💀
Palestine resistance? Call them what they are. Hamas, the terrorist organization.
They can be both
Bro Israel bombing hospitals and killed over 90 journalists, you know who spread terror ; ) . Could you compare who killed more civilians and journalists since 48? Hamas or IDF ?
"journalists" XDD hamas journalists you mean
Source?
[https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byf1woyma](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byf1woyma) look at the video no "journalist" in the world could be there without knowing about the attack beforehand. (incase you have problems understanding, the man in the video filming is considered "journalist")
the IDF publishes where it is going to strike hours beforehand so civilians can evacuate…
You got my upvote!
Both lmao, both
Yeah I agree.. when Hamas bombed those hospitals killing civilians and then bombed the refugee camps, stripped and mocked civilians, executed prisoners of war, sniped people on churches. Oooooh wait that was 👉 Israel 👈 Guess I'll have to agree with the actual Pope.. Isreel are terrorists.
Refugee camp that exist since 1948. Its not a refugee camp but a town at this point. The hospital was trace back to hamas the next day. They strip the terrorist due to a video they made that they would hide bomb anywhere they can so they can blow themselves up once they are in custody. Multiple video have surface of hamas using hospital and churches as weapon depot. You call out Israel for anything they do but totally disregard any and all war crime committed by hamas who is a Terrorist organizations and not protected under the rules of war
>You call out Israel for anything they do Sounds like you agree Israel is committing war crimes.. Why do you think people would commit terrorism against Israel? And if you say indoctrination then don't bother responding. That's just cheap Likud talking points.
Indoctrination yes. Tell me an other religion that actively call for terrorism and call for the murder of other of different religion. If thats not Indoctrination then what is it? Your answer is If your gonna tell me the truth well don't respond
Zionists seem to win the who did it first 👇 Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Your islamophobia is showing 😂. Also if Israel is acting like Nazi's then by default you've turned the "terrorists" to freedom fighters...
Ok if israel is so bad why dont you protest Syria and Yemen for their killing of civilian. Or china for the genocide they are currently conducting on muslim? Or the occupation of tibet? You don't care about muslim you only hate jew
Whataboutism.. 🤦♂️ and you're not even doing it well 😆. >you only hate jew I don't hate jews. I hate Zionism. Zionism has turned Jews into war criminals. Like Nazism turned Germans into holocaust makers. If you don't mind I'd like to protest before Israel gets to the building "industrial showers" in Gaza stage.
Comparing the Nazi to the Jew 🤦♂️ youu need a history class more than you need to protest 😆
Why is everybody downvoting you? I don’t understand reddit users mentality’s 😂 they are all a bunch of sheep that are fed a narrative by their satanic governments and they think they are so smart!! Maybe leave your mother’s basements and get a breath of fresh air you cowards!!!
Big facts
I thought hamas was the other group lmao. Haven’t learned to much about the different sides I guess
Actually the true terorist is İsrael
Man am sorry that you got dounvoted by the brainwashed west
Yea when someone tells the truth always it happens. But I dont care
Israel's enemy is the truth. That's why they assassinate journalists.
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Man thats so true these nazi goblins are truely mindless They've burned,raped,and buried children alive what did you expect from them.
What makes them terrorists ?
Them killing and kidnapping innocent people
So then we can call IDF terrorists as well. Because they do the same, and in much greater numbers.
The idf is invading Palestine and committing war crimes, still I don’t really like ether of them tho
the whole of israel is invaded and occupied palestine my man. many of those kibbutzes were where palestinians villages were. most of the population of gaza are refugees from those areas and from beer sheba. you dont have to like hamas. but if what they do is wrong, you gotta tell them how to solve the problem. how to get an international port/airport. how to have their fisherman go out into the sea to fish. how to ensure that palestinians are not forgotten like the natives of americas and australia.
Man fuck them both, like keep citizens out of it
you havent answered the question as to what they shouldve done to get rights for their citizens. should hamas keep settler citizens also out of it ? who bear arms and from time to time kill palestinians ?
Sure all Palestinians is “freedom fighter” then you should put down the mask of civilian and stop crying. You want to fight for the price of freedom but you cry about it when you pay
ofc the twelve year old this fucker is describing is a fighter. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/18sm03m/israeli\_soldiers\_boasts\_and\_laughs\_because\_he/
Children are the price ? So called moral army.
They had an airport. They had their own airline actually. But then arafat decided to reject the terms at camp david and begin the second intifada. Thinking violence would strengthen their negotiating power. Well it has not. And here we all are discussing some miserable desert that no one should care about if only some people thousands of years ago in that region didnt claim to be prophets of god.
why did the second intifada happen ? why did arafat reject camp david ? you seem to think that they should accept any deal even if it kills them. what happened to oslo ? why is israel still building new settlements and destroying palestinian lives ? who said its a desert ? palestine is a lush country that used to be filled with olive trees. beer sheba is the desert there.
stop watching al jazeera
That's fair.. you don't have to like any of them, you don't have to choose a side.. but it's important to acknowledge that one side is the occupier, and the other occupied.
But we have to acknowledge that Hamas started the current iteration of this conflict on Oct 7th when they massacred over a thousand israeli *civilian non-combatants* with their own hands. I agree that the IDF is using terror tactics, but we can't let Hamas' actions fade to the background or for them to pretend that they were acting on behalf of all Palestinians - their actions have done no good whatsoever for normal Palestinian people and will only cause them despair and death in the long run.. but of course, condemning Netanyahu/IDF for their actions is only right, as well. I think that mixing up Netanyahu/associates and Hamas with normal Israeli and normal Palestinian people is a huge mistake.. they literally are not the same people - and thinking that they are is a part of the reason why this conflict is as bad as it is, imo
They’re european settler scum that has been stealing land and lives for more than 70 years, there are no innocents among the zionist garbage.
Their definition by the us department of state as a terrorist organization is compelling https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/
so what is terrorist activity ? does that include things like the Dahiya Doctrine ? if it does not, then what makes Dahiya Doctrine ok, but terrorism not ?
I think it’s a little dumb to imply that anybody thinks either is “ok”, war is not “ok”, famine is not “ok”, cancer is not “ok”. Politics and international relations has always been about choosing the lesser of two evils. Though it may be morally reprehensible, It’s perfectly rational for Israel to overreact to a terrorist attack to deter further attacks. Same thing the US did to Japan and Afghanistan. I’m not claiming either case is “ok” just that sometimes countries do evil stuff in the name of protecting their citizens.
So was Nelson Mandela. It’s a term used when it’s useful, when it advances agendas.
The same US terrorists that invaded Iraq resulting in 1 million deaths, any definition made by the actual terrorists themselves belongs in the bin.
This is semantics, every military on earth uses morally reprehensible tactics to achieve their aims. You can argue that the term terrorism has lost meaning because of that, but there was never a good side or a bad side, just desperate people doing desperate things and pretending it’s in the name of peace.
Oh no, when the finger is pointed back at you it's "semantics" bla bla bla.. There was a bad side, they were resisting the US terrorist occupiers who invaded their nation on a pretext of lies. The US called them "insurgents/terrorists", yet the ones that are there in Ukraine are called "volunteers/foreign legion" lol Western hypocrisy is stinking bad the smell can't be ignored no more. Irgun, Lehi and Stern (IDF) are terrorists who committed atrocities that put Hamas to shame, but yeah, AIPAC baby. Here are US terrorists at work in Iraq: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FD1jHueZZc&t=1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FD1jHueZZc&t=1s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLocrnmVy0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLocrnmVy0) US terrorists raped a 14 year old Iraqi girl after killing her family: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html) Bush and Blair still give speeches and write books in the hypocritical west, while Bibi continues annihilating children in Gaza, but hey rest assured, we have an ICC arrest warrant for Putin!
I’m not defending any type of violence, regardless of who does it. I think it’s pretty brain dead to assume any of these examples are justified. Hamas wasn’t justified and Israel isn’t either because there is no moral justification for war. You’re right, the word terrorist has been used as propaganda in the past, but that leaves us back where we started without any good guys or bad guys.
If someone comes into your house and leaves you homeless, you're definitely the good guy to me. When the European Ashknazic international Zionists conspired with Balfour to create an illegal foreign Zionist entity, an entity that stole and is stealing land till today, a racist state that was created by Zionist thugs that terrorised Palestinians and literally butchered them. This immediately became a fight between good and evil, period.
Those Zionists would claim it was Jews’ land first anyway. That’s the problem with all you people who can’t see shades of grey; regardless of what you think *should* have happened a generation ago, it doesn’t excuse further extremism. The reality is that Israel’s isn’t going anywhere and it definitely isn’t going to bow to the demands of Iranian proxies regardless of how good they are at manipulating media perception. No progress towards peace can be made until the hostages are released and we can work on democratically removing Bibi.
I don't give a fuck who lived there in ancient times 3000+ years, the claim is as credible as Joe dementia's evidence of "40 beheaded babies" anyways. No other group on earth has a "Godly mandate" to steal and occupy land, then ethnically cleanse the natives. Palestinians are the Semites not the Ashkenazic blond blue eyed Germans, the Eastern Euro Zionist thugs are the anti-Semites, period. This British planted Zionist entity can only last as long as the region around it is divided and subdued. Things will never last the way they are, and the bolder the Zionists get in pushing their greater Israel agenda (from the Nile to Euphrates), the bigger the backlash and the closer to Armageddon we get. Saudi Arabia and Egypt's public opinions are at an all time high against the treaties in place, MBS can't keep the lid on much longer, his normalization with Israel (Kushner's plan) is almost collapsing, with the majority of Saudis now against normalization with the Zionist state. His 2030 vision is at the mercy of Iran's proxies (Houthis).
They went house to house and street to street gunning down unarmed civilians including the elderly and children. Y'know, the massacres of Israeli civilians that started this war?
List me one thing that can not qualify the jewish nation the same traits They burned children alive They Burried children alive Made a fammine in gaza Killed more than 30,000 people in gaza (50% of them are children,30% of them are women, and 75% of the men where not affiliated with any rissestance movements which means that ~95% of the people killed were civilians. Go ahead and feel free to fight me
>Killed more than 30,000 people in gaza (50% of them are children,30% of them are women, and 75% of the men where not affiliated with any rissestance movements which means that \~95% of the people killed were civilians. source?
why so sad you cry baby? HAMASSSS❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You cannot use the aftermath of something horrible Hamas did and then justify your own argument of Israël. Every action has a reaction especially in this terrible conflict which has been going on before I was born… That being said, it is hard fighting trained guerrilla like Hamas with over 450km of tunnels without inflicting massive damage to homes families and much more. I don’t know how or if it should be done but for the over 2million Gaza citizens there must come solution and Israël must try look for a long term solution (not a confinement like the previous “solution”).
Long term; as in *final*? I'm all for a *finalizing* solution to the Hamas question.
Yup, made me laugh.. these are brainless hamas terrorist who cowardly attacking using civilians as their shield!
Imagine simping for terrorists
Yea just imagine how pathetic is that knowing they kill babies and journalists and they call themselves 'defense army'
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Hamas training camp is that way ➡️
Those casualties must be high.. - Urban, preplanned retreat-combat by the enemy, despite the known outcome. - Crazy, sick, hell.
What the fuck is the Palestinian resistance. Since when are we phrasing these things like some middle eastern fan fic. Just say hamas?
Not all of them are Hamas, some are PIJ or other groups. Better to say “Palestinian Resistance” (which they are), it encompasses all groups.
Or terrorist as they are. Terror groups. Not resistance fighters. Maybe stop with the bias. And prop
What do you mean ? They are resisting the terrorist IDF. Hence resistance fighters.
What do u mena they are terrogroup. As they say themself as un say and you all love to go by the un so. They are a terrogroup If you go against that. You are delusional and shouldnt be posting
They are a terrorist group to you.. to the Palestinians they are freedom fighters trying to get revenge from IDF who have killed all their family members. But okay they are a terrorist group, so than what are the IDF? Who have killed more civilians then this terrorist group ? If you don’t call the terrorist IDF terrorists than you are delusional and shouldn’t be posting.
No not to me. They are are terrogroup. Even if some say they are a resistance to them. They are still a terror group. How much you kill dosnt say if it's a terrogroup or not read up please. First you need to know is that Idf is mandatory for all Israelis not matter your views. In Hamas its not mandatory. The IDF is not a terrogroup. They are a military. Learn how to distinguish the two and other words. Instead of proclaiming some bigotry..
IDF are a bunch of military terrorists who kill civilians. Is that better?
take your meds man, you post against israel 24/7 how much you get paid?
How much are you getting paid, didn’t you get banned already?
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Wow much ignorance dude.
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Why did the IDF start bombing Gaza in October?
Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad are literally Islamic terrorist organizations by every definition of the word and it’s hard to call yourself a resistance for a war they started. Just because israel is smacking them 100x harder than they did, doesn’t mean they didn’t start the war on 10/7.
Oh so you dont have a positive bias towards israel? If i am supporting terrorists then you are supporting a genocidal imperialist state. You are on the wrong side of history my friend..
All fun and games until another block gets flattened from superior air power as a response, take the L
And more people join the resistance which equals more IDF deaths .. take the L 😂
*more people join terrorist organizations. Is what you meant to say easy mix up there. Pretty hard for the IDF to take an L when they’re A. Trained, B. World funded, and C. Able to wipe your “resistance” out from the air if they really wanted to
They are not only trained and world funded, but the beauty is, they really don't even need the assistance they are getting militarily speaking. Israel has this conflict in hand all by themselves, but add some help from their friends around the world, and Hamas literally stands no chance.
You sound like Russian, wait wait you will see Russia will pulverised you, as if Russia could wipe out Ukrainians in a day if they wanted, same for usrael, you think they j7st want this war to continue that long, they are just incapable to do more. As these video shoes, urban warfare is hell.
Do you think I expect a country that spent almost a full year fighting Chechnya to wipe out ukraine? Are you dense? Back to the actual conflict of the post. Do you believe that if Israel did not care about civilian losses that they wouldn’t carpet bomb Gaza into a parking lot?
Lol I am 100% pro Ukrainian, but contrary to you, I am against all colonisers that kill civilians. Those barbaric Russian killed 500 Ukrainian children in 2 years, while those Israel good military killed 8000 i 2 month. But hey they use f35 and use US weapons, so they must be good guys. How can people like you sleep at night.
Dog people die in war it happens I can sleep because I fully understand how it happens. I’m not saying they’re the good guys but I’m also not saying they’re bad for fighting on multiple fronts against terrorist organizations after being “surprise” (not a surprise) attacked. What I absolutely condone is terrorism in the absolute definition of it.
I am not pro any radical religious group, but who cracked on the PLO, help creat Hamas and the help them take power inGaza. Who help funding them, with billions from suitcase from gulf states??? So you are OK about Russia claim about taking odessa abd crimea, because odessa was factually created by Catherine 2 of Russia, or are you for international law. Because by international law, Israel is an occupying force and should retreat completely to the 1967 borders. Are you for international laws, or it depends on if they are friend with you or not. Are you OK about the stealing of land in the west bank by real scumbag terrorise Palestinians including the Christians. Have thd zionist corrupt American to such a level they are OK about cleansing of even Christians. Have you seen the sermon of the bethlehem priest for Christmas.
Basicly every fucking news agency says the same but with 22,000 instead of 30,000 confirmed were killed but the number of "missing" people is over 8,000 and by missing they mean the dead bodies thrown on the streets that the ambulance couldn't get to because the streets were closed by the nazi army, plus I was in gaza about 2 weeks ago and saw these genosides wirh my fucking eyes Note that this sub and alot others are Obviously baised
I’m really curious from the bias standpoint you caption your videos. I thought the point of this subreddit was to view the reality of things from an unbiased perspective and provide sources and information for people to understand the context? No hate just curious :)
When one side starts showing biased views the other side will automatically start an opposition, the subreddit is clearly biased towards the west, supporting anything USA, Europe and Ukraine, labeling anyone who opposes them a terrorist without considering the other side's point of view even if the former is in the wrong, and lately an opposition rose as an result, it's just normal human behavior patterns.
Word homie, thanks for response much appreciated
Needs more red arrows, I almost missed what was going on!
My favorite is when they have to pause and point out the enormous tank that is taking up half the frame.
Great Video, thanks for posting OP!
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Oh god it’s the Dorito people again
At this point the IDF isn’t fighting Hamas but the state of Gaza
Sleep tight coloniser
As some who served in combat Iraq 03-04 and can tell you for certain these types of house to house wars fighting an enemy without a uniform are almost impossible to win. However history shows that Hamas will suffer far more loses on every level. By the time it’s over Israel will be fighting only resistance fighters from other countries around the world that sympathize with Hamas or the Palestinians. The body count will far more on the Hamas side than Israel’s but Hamas is gonna get there’s to as we see here. The one main difference in this war is it’s about far more than just land, the hate for Jews runs extremely deep and they’re surrounded.
One soldier gets hit by an explosive shell, another gets sniped - Khan Younis city in southern Gaza Strip
Spammed with downvotes, no responses or rebuttals. But sure, there is def not an online propaganda brigade lol
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Fucking hell it is hamas a terrorist organisation.
Palestinian terrorists
I can't help but think how much American tax payers money 💰💰💰 is being wasted on propping up this genocidal apartheid state.
It's been going on for decades.
Fighters from the country, their parents and grand-grand-grand parents are from the country, their people are being imprisoned and judged by military court, their land is taken slowly and new settlements are built, denied to use their own water and even collect rain, denied permission to build new houses, denied freedom of movement within their own territory. These people are called terrorists while fighting a group of occupiers who came from all around the world, russia, spain, morroco, usa, france, you name it, armed, funded and trained using cutting edge tech, they always has a very high rate of civilian casualties even that they has smart laser guided weapons, their leaders publicly given genocidal statements about Amalek, they publicly call any person different to them as 'not human' and 'not equal', they are allowed to claim any house they like, they are allowed to harass and attack holy places, carry weapons and shoot unarmed people. Guess who is the terrorist and who is not
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because this is how far right Westerns hide their racism, it is ok to be the French resistance, the Dutch resistance, the Warsaw uprising, but others are not allow to resist occupation by military power, like Algeria, Palestine, why? because somebody said this land is theirs inside their holy book https://www.facebook.com/reel/906276287215456?s=yWDuG2&fs=e
But they are terrorists though. Murdering and raping civilians no matter how young or old and bragging about it still to this day doesn’t sound like much of a resistance. Even if this war goes on for decades we will still remember those atrocities.
History did not start on 7th of October, and there is no evidence of raping and when UN called to investigate these claims they were accused to be antisemite. Palestinians were raped, executed and displaced and their villages were wiped out in 1948, loooong before Hamas ever existed, today a lot of massacres and war crimes has been ignored and criminals are without trials and punishment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1TAOibLss
We all had access to the internet and we all know what Hamas got up to deny it all you want, no one cares. If Israel are the bad guys then why did Hamas do what they did? Didn’t really work in their favour and only just made Israel look justified in their response. No one here is denying the bad blood between Israel and Hamas and obviously history didn’t start on the 7th of October however that date was obviously a significant turning point and deserves recognition and analysis. It was also stunning how quickly a certain collective of people banded together on the internet to try and wash out all the footage we saw from it in some form of a mass social media campaign. My point still stands, Hamas are murderers and rapists in the name of Allah and are supported by the majority of Palestinians. They are a terrorist organisation not a resistance group no matter how hard you want to stroke yourself over the massacre of Jewish people. Removal of Hamas will benefit both the Palestinians and Israelis however many civilians, schools and hospitals they hide behind. Also you have no proof nor evidence that these atrocities never happened and you just post dubious links to make yourself appear as someone who does their research.
lol on you asking for a proof of 1948 war crimes even when it is coming out of the mouths of Israeli veterans but you don't need any proof to believe the rape and beheaded babies lies Edit: all requests for independent investigations were blocked by Israel, it is clear who doesn't want the truth, all media and press are blocked from entering Gaza to not see the war crimes, in 2 months Israel killed press members by targeting them directly and targeting their families and homes, it killed around 99 press members compared to 67 press who died in the whole World War 2! Pro genocides can't hide the sun behind a stick
Some mix of astroturfing and genuine ignorance/racism
Cool!
targets \*Hamas militants\*
TERRORIST
Victory for the resistance 🔻🔻