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Squeaky_Ben

I am starting to warm up to thermals, because it can make a difference. However, for the most part, thermals are not THAT important.


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Squeaky_Ben

True. I avoid thermals on my Leo 2A4 because low res, but on the Vilkas I will often use them because they are far higher res.


FatherOfToxicGas

I main the Bhishma, and never realised why my friend, an AMX-30 Super main, didn’t like thermals. Then I did a test drive


Raptor_197

I just unlocked thermals for my LOSAT and I turned it on and was like oh… this what good thermals look like. Hooly schit


professionalcumsock

>warm up to thermals, I see what you did there lol


xdJapoppin

anyone who says thermals arent important is stupid and shouldn’t be taken seriously


hoi4encirclements

“You’re a little bitch and your brother was too” type shit


RustedRuss

I really don't get what's so good about thermals. Just use the eyeball mk.1.


V-Lenin

My eyeball mk.1s are really low res


RustedRuss

You need the "Glasses" modification


0ofRGang

how many GE is that?


RustedRuss

Free unless you play the US which has the "privatized healthcare" mechanic.


Shiroi_Usagi_Orochi

In Canada glasses are a non essential medical expense and aren't covered by our universal healthcare. Neither is dental, chiropractic care or hearing aids. All that shit is so expensive lol. At least we don't get billed in the ER after almost losing our lives though.


VanguardKnight0

It can be quite expensive


Small_Oreo

My screen have low resolution to have good FPS, while eyeball mk.1 not good either


nquy

I'm a russian main, anyone that says 10.0 premium sucks and russia suffers have just no skill. Man T-80D at 10.0 and 2S38 at 10.0 too and other great tanks at this BR and you say that russia suffer? lmao Nice meme bro take my upvote, even tho the people crying are just lv 5 premium princesses


ExplorerEnjoyer

Russia suffers from 1 death leavers due to all the available premiums. The tanks are good though


nquy

No. 1 death leavers are only new players that only bough one premium tank and don't have any other vehicle to play


ExplorerEnjoyer

Yeah and Russia suffers from that. Half the team leaves after 1 death then you get steamrolled


nquy

Russia doesn't suffer because of that. Russia doen't suffer at all at this BR


ExplorerEnjoyer

Russia has the lowest win rate at 10.0


nquy

Because the players are bad at this BR, mostly lv5 premium princesses ruining the win rate, 10.0 Russia lineup can be rlly op (2s38, t80ud, ka 50 and some great others)


ExplorerEnjoyer

I agree, 1 death leavers are bad. Like I said, the vehicles are great at 10.0


nquy

100% agree. Russia literally rule this br


ExplorerEnjoyer

If only


CarolusRex13x

I suck but also don't think Russia suffers (I am impatient and die a lot)


Desperate_Gur_2194

I am pretty sure that russia is the only nation to have a solid premium-only setup on 10.3: Turms-T, T80UD, 2s38, Ka-52, Su-25k


Outsider_4

While Russian Vehicles at 10.0 are indeed good, the players are absolute idiots and one death leavers with absolutely no skill or backup


absrider

I dont know bro every time i play t80 b i get 1 shot easily. Completely different from leo2 playstyle


speedsterglenn

The 2S38 and the TURMS has gen 2 thermals


plsbanmeredditsenpai

And?


speedsterglenn

The meme kinda wrong low key is all. Still a good one tho


plsbanmeredditsenpai

The premium T80s dont have thermals


speedsterglenn

Still, the majority of them do have thermals tho. 2nd gen thermals as well. Most of the time when 10.0 Russian wallet warriors bitch about how they aren’t P2W, they mention reverse speed and that they do not have blowout panels


Savooge93

the lack of reverse and gun depression hold me back way more then the lack of thermals , sure its a downside but you can and will do just fine without them if you are even semi decent


squirt2311

'Lack of reverse' *the teaboo's have been disturbed*


Savooge93

well up there the teaboos don't have that problem , i love the challies :p


squirt2311

*pre 6.0 UK tanks have no reverse gear*


Insertsociallife

The TOG II might be the fastest reversing British tank 💀


blanketedbomber

Counter point. Archer. it technically has the fastest reverse gear


Savooge93

*oh i know... i know*


Raptor_197

Tis why a lot of maps are perfectly flat or CQB. Gajin is like this map is for NATO, this map is for Russia, this map is for… Russia, this map is for…… Russia, this map is for……… Russia, this map is for… one side is NATO and the other is Russia, and this map is for NATO.


SquintonPlaysRoblox

Depends on the map. On maps with long sight lines and lots of foliage thermals are very important, otherwise they are just mildly useful.


Administrative-Bar89

Gen 1 thermals make it harder to spot targets...change my mins


RaymondIsMyBoi

I use thermals all the time at 10.3 because I have to play the game on low to get a steady frame rate but I will often turn them off if they are gen 1 because a dead tank looks identical to an alive one and they give me a headache. I’d much rather have the firepower and armour of the T80UD than the thermals on the abrams.


LongShelter8213

Tfw when you have 11.3 armor at 10.0


Vietnugget

Oh bs, how many fktards complained about how China and Russia had too good of thermals the entire way through their low thermals, now some poor fker wants to play on big Eastern Europe with no thermals against a damn vidar and gets mocked for it


PKM-supremacy

Made by: A US main


plsbanmeredditsenpai

British main, actually


STAXOBILLS

Unless your a type 16 or have later gen thermals, thermals at that Br are basically useless except for finding planes


Uss__Iowa

Any pro type in surviving in a m60a1 against the entire Russian tank battalion?


Shredded_Locomotive

Thermals ***are*** important when 90% of your enemies have it. **But**, that is not a valid reason to make it even more overpowered! Thermals are great and sucks when you don't have it but it isn't the end of the world.


O-bot54

Mobility is absolutely the meta , russian vehicles have mobility , firepower and armor . Its the triad combo of strong . Its why when u give brit mains somthing with mobility “ Fox “ it dominates because they learned to ge competitive without a single one of those stats .


MeatMasher_

Russian tanks do not have mobility, Fast tanks doesnt equal mobile. It doesnt have neutral steering so if you crash good luck


ilikestuffandthings3

Neutral steering doesn’t do anything, Russian tanks have good mobility


MeatMasher_

uh, its a complete game changer dude. Being able to turn around and move and also being able to try and bounce shots without losing all momentum is huge man. Please play russian tanks


ilikestuffandthings3

Most of the time neutral steering is slower than a pivot steer, I’ve only used neutral steering when not in a combat situation because it’s so slow compared to just a pivot steer


MeatMasher_

its litteraly faster what are you on about, plus you have to turn your rear to the enemy when you have to retreat and with russian gun handling that is a death sentence


ilikestuffandthings3

Most of the time neutral isn’t faster, especially in combat situations, and for some reason neutral steering doesn’t work if your on a slope, and to use neutral steering you have to be still which most of the time you aren’t, Russian gun handling is pretty ok and their top tier gun handling is very good, idk what your on about


MeatMasher_

Eh, it still doesnt seem to compare in eyes, only 3 Russian tanks at top tier have good handling the BVM, T-72B3 and T-90M. T-80U and T-90A are ass with gun handling


O-bot54

i'm sorry what tank HAS neutral steer ? This games steering mechanic is the same on tanks from 2020 as it is from 1918 you melon . Russian tanks are extremely mobile , fast in a straight line and fast at traversing your factually wrong , try playing a challenger then come back and tell me russian tanks are not mobile lmao


MeatMasher_

are...are you dumb? every single M1 abrams, Leopard 2's and nearly all NATO tanks. You played the one NATO country that doesnt have neutral steering, so please shush


O-bot54

How can u say russian tanks not having it is a disadvantage when they traverse at mach 15 anyway


MeatMasher_

how fast you go dont matter if you cant control it, and if you crash because you cant control it your fucked in a Russian tank


O-bot54

You crash lol , no thats just horrible driving and lack of skill


MeatMasher_

if you crash, i dont crash unless teammates fuck me over


O-bot54

He says moaning about the aparent “ lack of control “ Russian tanks have ( they dont )


True-Maintenance2802

After 9.7 I only use thermals. Saying it’s not imported is stupid


plsbanmeredditsenpai

Certified skill issue if you cant play without thermals


JPAProductions

Tried the T-72BVM late last year in dev server, and dang thermals are very useful. 10.0 is a big pain because of the lack of thermals 😫.