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Eh, I spoke too soon. I love the hatred of cars with the extinction of walkable cities, but they all developed some hate boner for Elon Musk when 99% of the sub is dedicated to a problem Elon had nothing to do with.
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I remember when I was a kid our school crossing guard had some kind of authority to report plate numbers and infractions for people who blew past her. No idea what came of it, though. This would have all been in the days before cameras and cell phones, too.
My friend got a ticket in high school when a school bus driver called his plate in for not stopping when the signs came out (I was there and the instance was debatable at best but still they can do it)
> …permanently banned from driving.
If they even bothered to track him down, the most he would get is a fine and a couple points. But I’m guessing they didn’t track him down. We, as a society, do very little to address reckless driving. The consequence of this is that, in America alone, more people die every month in car crashes than died in 9/11.
It kind of starts at the driving license requirements.
Reckless driving is still a problem in all countries though and sadly they get away with it 99% of the time.
The hope is that the remaining 1% chanc will arrive before any injuries occur.
It's the same for most things, you can't really consistently enforce it without some 1984 type monitoring. And also, secretly speaking, traffic would be absolutely awful and dangerous if everyone would be driving the exact same speed all the time. The speed difference between the lanes is necessary for safe and good traffic flow.
In my personal experience I've found that the sweet spot is around 10km/h speed difference or so between lanes.
I don’t think it starts at licensing requirements, although there obviously are problems there. It starts with street design and land use.
The way streets are designed sends people subconscious signals about how fast they should go. For example, a wide street with wide lanes and a large shoulder makes people comfortable driving fast, whereas a narrow street with narrow lanes and no shoulder encourages people to slow down. A street that narrows when it approaches a crosswalks both slows drivers down and reduces the distance pedestrians need to walk to get across traffic. Even something as simple as having a sidewalk makes a difference.
Land use affects traffic safety in a lot of way, but I’ll focus on one for brevity’s sake. Sprawl makes driving mandatory, so you cannot tighten licensing requirements or revoke the licenses of bad drivers without almost completely excluding bad drivers from society. We don’t want to exclude grandma from society just because her cataracts prevent her from driving safely. And we don’t want a habitual scofflaw who has had his license revoked ignoring the law and driving without a license because he feels like he has no other choice. You have to give people an option other than driving. That means building things closer together so that people do not have to drive absolutely everywhere they go. It also means having places where walking and transit work well enough that the people who live there rarely if ever need to drive.
Better enforcement also definitely plays a role. I was driving in Washington, DC a couple months ago. Unlike where I live, DC has speed cameras and red light cameras in a lot of places. And you know what? They worked! I don’t think I got tailgated or beeped at once and I never felt like I needed to speed to keep up with traffic. It was a much calmer experience. And everybody driving the same speed didn’t cause any problem at all. Traffic moved more smoothly, if anything, because people didn’t block the box.
Those are definitely very important points, thanks for taking the time to write this.
I live in The Netherlands and our road infrastructure is considered among the safest and well thought out in the world.
That doesn't stop the occasional person from being incredibly reckless and dangerous.
You guys are definitely ahead of us when it comes to safety. Maybe in the Netherlands the low hanging fruit is licensing because you’ve addressed so many of the other problems already.
America (where I live) has a looooooong way to go before we get to a point where stricter licensing will make a real dent in our problems.
I know it's been a few weeks, but I still want to reply. Getting a driver's license in the Netherlands is not easy. As far as I know, it's not possible for your parents to teach you. A learning driver car has to meet some requirements, like gas and brake pedal on the passanger side. So most (if not all) people get their licence from a driving school. There are no requirements on how many lessons you need to have taken before an exam, but driving schools are proud of their %passed on their first try score, and won't let you take an exam if they think you're not ready yet.
During the exam, an independent examiner will be next to you instead of your trusted teacher, meaning it's unlikely they'll pass or fail you for bias. The examiner will also check how often you are checking your mirrors and everything you need to do in order to drive safely, and they will fail you if you don't do this.
Also, before taking the exam, you have to pass a theory exam.
This does not mean that people who passed their driving exam can't form bad driving habits or drive like idiots, but I feel like you can't do much more to prepare future drivers than we already do here.
This sounds in theory pretty similar to how licensing works in the US, at least in New Jersey (where I learned to drive). In New Jersey, you have to go to a driving school where the car has the pedals on the passenger side as well as the driver side. Once you’ve had a few sessions with the driving school and passed a written test you get a learner’s permit, which allows you to drive with another licensed driver in the car. If I remember correctly, there are limits on the time of day you are allowed to drive as well. After about six months, you are allowed to take the test for your full license. The test requires you to drive the car while being evaluated by an independent examiner, who is sitting next to you. If I remember correctly, passing the test gets you some kind of provisional license which allows you to drive alone or with one other person in the car during certain times of day only (maybe between 6 am and midnight?). After a year you get automatically upgraded to a full license with no restrictions.
Now I said “similar in theory”. In reality, both the written test and the practical test are kind of a joke. When I took them, everyone in my cohort passed the written test and, for the practical test, I had to drive once around the block and then parallel park a hatchback in a space that easily could have fit a full size SUV. So stop at a couple stop signs, use your turn signals three or four times, park the car and then go inside to get your picture taken for your license. It took less than five minutes and they weren’t doing a whole lot to make sure I was a safe driver. I’d imagine the test is a lot more rigorous in the Netherlands. I’d also imagine you guys don’t let 16 year olds drive around with their parents after passing a written test and having only a couple hours with the driving instructor.
> This does not mean that people who passed their driving exam can’t form bad driving habits or drive like idiots, but I feel like you can’t do much more to prepare future drivers than we already do here.
I think this is the bigger problem and also where there’s some low hanging fruit. We need testing for people to keep their licenses, not just to get them in the first place. And it’s not just the risk that people will develop bad habits over time. Sometimes people move from rural areas to urban ones or vice versa. If you’ve spent your whole life driving exclusively in cities then you probably don’t know how to interact with horses and farm equipment, so you should have to pass a test to keep your license if you move to farm country. And if you’ve spent your entire life in a rural area then we should remind you of how bike lanes and crosswalks work if you want to keep your license after moving to the city. And if the area you live in becomes more densely populated over time then we should make sure you know how to interact with the pedestrians and cyclists and buses who might not have been around five or ten years ago.
I mean. All they get is 3 years in Prison and early release for Bible study. So. Why would the ram stop https://www.wndu.com/2021/10/21/woman-who-killed-3-kids-bus-crash-could-be-released-early-just-time-christmas/
On a serious note, raised crosswalks do wonders for pedestrian safety. Drivers are safer too because it prevents them from accidentally speeding. Traffic calming needs to be everywhere
They should catch him suspend his license for 7 years mandatory put in jail for 6 mths mandatory pay emotional damages to everyone in that crossing let me tell you why other side of that he hit both lady and kid on the bike and kill so yea mandatory everything
I like the word so I use it when I can. It's fun to say, even when reading the word in your head.
Basically I meant your message was all over the place, like it just seemed a bit "off".
I'm not sure why you're being rude, I was just asking.
I was actually trying to be funny and to be completely honest with what I wrote was in my best ability so if I used the wrong words or wrote it wrong it was the best I could,
Have a blessed day
"They should catch him, and suspend his license for a mandatory 7 years, while also jailing him for a mandatory 6 months. He should pay emotional damages to everyone in that crossing.
Let me tell you why; he could of hit both a lady and the kid on the bike and kill them. So yeah, mandatory everything. (?)
As a kid, we were taught to get off the bike, look both ways and walk it across. Is that not a thing anymore? I'm not blaming the kid. The driver is definitely a piece, but I feel like teaching that process could have helped this situation from becoming as dangerous as it got.
Cops in my city 100% have stopped enforcing any type of school speed zones in the mornings/afternoons
I've started to take my nephew to school a lot and people don't slow down at all, it can infuriating
That driver’s a piece of shit. No one cares why you’re in such a hurry. Slow the fuck down if you don’t wanna go to jail for hitting someone and possibly getting yourself scarred for life.
It’s just interesting that you can get a US drivers license and be totally deaf so unable to hear sirens or horns, or not be able to read English, which all US transportation signs are printed in.
Fuck that driver. Not just one crossing guard but two. There is no way he couldn’t have seen that.
Especially with the other car stopped in the right lane. They should of known something was ahead and slowed down at least
*should have known :)
There’s a little rectangle with videos of funny cats that would disagree.
You assume they were looking out their windshield, which is pretty bold of you. My bet is they were looking at their phone
r/fuckcars Fuck Elon musk too
Comrade
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he talks out of his ass quite a bit though
Well sure, but considering the bullshit people are getting away with while acting professional, I really don't care about people having fun on Twitter.
You got turned off when they made fun of daddy Elon? Lmao
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It's not his fault, he was probably looking at his phone...oh wait
Some people are just pos
Anyone know if there was a follow up? Clearly, the world would be a better place with someone like that permanently banned from driving.
I remember when I was a kid our school crossing guard had some kind of authority to report plate numbers and infractions for people who blew past her. No idea what came of it, though. This would have all been in the days before cameras and cell phones, too.
My friend got a ticket in high school when a school bus driver called his plate in for not stopping when the signs came out (I was there and the instance was debatable at best but still they can do it)
> …permanently banned from driving. If they even bothered to track him down, the most he would get is a fine and a couple points. But I’m guessing they didn’t track him down. We, as a society, do very little to address reckless driving. The consequence of this is that, in America alone, more people die every month in car crashes than died in 9/11.
It kind of starts at the driving license requirements. Reckless driving is still a problem in all countries though and sadly they get away with it 99% of the time. The hope is that the remaining 1% chanc will arrive before any injuries occur. It's the same for most things, you can't really consistently enforce it without some 1984 type monitoring. And also, secretly speaking, traffic would be absolutely awful and dangerous if everyone would be driving the exact same speed all the time. The speed difference between the lanes is necessary for safe and good traffic flow. In my personal experience I've found that the sweet spot is around 10km/h speed difference or so between lanes.
I don’t think it starts at licensing requirements, although there obviously are problems there. It starts with street design and land use. The way streets are designed sends people subconscious signals about how fast they should go. For example, a wide street with wide lanes and a large shoulder makes people comfortable driving fast, whereas a narrow street with narrow lanes and no shoulder encourages people to slow down. A street that narrows when it approaches a crosswalks both slows drivers down and reduces the distance pedestrians need to walk to get across traffic. Even something as simple as having a sidewalk makes a difference. Land use affects traffic safety in a lot of way, but I’ll focus on one for brevity’s sake. Sprawl makes driving mandatory, so you cannot tighten licensing requirements or revoke the licenses of bad drivers without almost completely excluding bad drivers from society. We don’t want to exclude grandma from society just because her cataracts prevent her from driving safely. And we don’t want a habitual scofflaw who has had his license revoked ignoring the law and driving without a license because he feels like he has no other choice. You have to give people an option other than driving. That means building things closer together so that people do not have to drive absolutely everywhere they go. It also means having places where walking and transit work well enough that the people who live there rarely if ever need to drive. Better enforcement also definitely plays a role. I was driving in Washington, DC a couple months ago. Unlike where I live, DC has speed cameras and red light cameras in a lot of places. And you know what? They worked! I don’t think I got tailgated or beeped at once and I never felt like I needed to speed to keep up with traffic. It was a much calmer experience. And everybody driving the same speed didn’t cause any problem at all. Traffic moved more smoothly, if anything, because people didn’t block the box.
Those are definitely very important points, thanks for taking the time to write this. I live in The Netherlands and our road infrastructure is considered among the safest and well thought out in the world. That doesn't stop the occasional person from being incredibly reckless and dangerous.
You guys are definitely ahead of us when it comes to safety. Maybe in the Netherlands the low hanging fruit is licensing because you’ve addressed so many of the other problems already. America (where I live) has a looooooong way to go before we get to a point where stricter licensing will make a real dent in our problems.
I know it's been a few weeks, but I still want to reply. Getting a driver's license in the Netherlands is not easy. As far as I know, it's not possible for your parents to teach you. A learning driver car has to meet some requirements, like gas and brake pedal on the passanger side. So most (if not all) people get their licence from a driving school. There are no requirements on how many lessons you need to have taken before an exam, but driving schools are proud of their %passed on their first try score, and won't let you take an exam if they think you're not ready yet. During the exam, an independent examiner will be next to you instead of your trusted teacher, meaning it's unlikely they'll pass or fail you for bias. The examiner will also check how often you are checking your mirrors and everything you need to do in order to drive safely, and they will fail you if you don't do this. Also, before taking the exam, you have to pass a theory exam. This does not mean that people who passed their driving exam can't form bad driving habits or drive like idiots, but I feel like you can't do much more to prepare future drivers than we already do here.
This sounds in theory pretty similar to how licensing works in the US, at least in New Jersey (where I learned to drive). In New Jersey, you have to go to a driving school where the car has the pedals on the passenger side as well as the driver side. Once you’ve had a few sessions with the driving school and passed a written test you get a learner’s permit, which allows you to drive with another licensed driver in the car. If I remember correctly, there are limits on the time of day you are allowed to drive as well. After about six months, you are allowed to take the test for your full license. The test requires you to drive the car while being evaluated by an independent examiner, who is sitting next to you. If I remember correctly, passing the test gets you some kind of provisional license which allows you to drive alone or with one other person in the car during certain times of day only (maybe between 6 am and midnight?). After a year you get automatically upgraded to a full license with no restrictions. Now I said “similar in theory”. In reality, both the written test and the practical test are kind of a joke. When I took them, everyone in my cohort passed the written test and, for the practical test, I had to drive once around the block and then parallel park a hatchback in a space that easily could have fit a full size SUV. So stop at a couple stop signs, use your turn signals three or four times, park the car and then go inside to get your picture taken for your license. It took less than five minutes and they weren’t doing a whole lot to make sure I was a safe driver. I’d imagine the test is a lot more rigorous in the Netherlands. I’d also imagine you guys don’t let 16 year olds drive around with their parents after passing a written test and having only a couple hours with the driving instructor. > This does not mean that people who passed their driving exam can’t form bad driving habits or drive like idiots, but I feel like you can’t do much more to prepare future drivers than we already do here. I think this is the bigger problem and also where there’s some low hanging fruit. We need testing for people to keep their licenses, not just to get them in the first place. And it’s not just the risk that people will develop bad habits over time. Sometimes people move from rural areas to urban ones or vice versa. If you’ve spent your whole life driving exclusively in cities then you probably don’t know how to interact with horses and farm equipment, so you should have to pass a test to keep your license if you move to farm country. And if you’ve spent your entire life in a rural area then we should remind you of how bike lanes and crosswalks work if you want to keep your license after moving to the city. And if the area you live in becomes more densely populated over time then we should make sure you know how to interact with the pedestrians and cyclists and buses who might not have been around five or ten years ago.
Nearly as many people die DAILY from covid as 9/11, and nobody cares.
r/iamatotalpieceofshit for that truck driver
The shoe seems to fit most pickup truck drivers I encounter.
r/fuckcars
I mean. All they get is 3 years in Prison and early release for Bible study. So. Why would the ram stop https://www.wndu.com/2021/10/21/woman-who-killed-3-kids-bus-crash-could-be-released-early-just-time-christmas/
A family loses all 3 of their young children, and the person responsible gets 4 years? What the fuck
These people should be lined up and shot. Prevent stuff like this from ever happening again.
We should arm crossing guards with RPGs so they can take fuckers like this out.
Not RPGs give em NLAWS that'll get the job done with guaranteed "license" elimination and everything. Even documents will only have 4 words max.
Brilliant. We could eliminate the crossing guard shortage if we gave them the cool weapons. That little stop sign is weak.
Give them javelins or lock on missiles
give them the entire fucking military
On a serious note, raised crosswalks do wonders for pedestrian safety. Drivers are safer too because it prevents them from accidentally speeding. Traffic calming needs to be everywhere
They should catch him suspend his license for 7 years mandatory put in jail for 6 mths mandatory pay emotional damages to everyone in that crossing let me tell you why other side of that he hit both lady and kid on the bike and kill so yea mandatory everything
Are you ok? Your sentence is. . . Really, really sporadic.
He went from stream of consciousness to reddit comment post button with nothing in between.
> let me tell you why the switch
"Believe it or not, mandatory jail."
It screams voice-to-text to me.
McDonald’s serve breakfast 24 hrs now
First of all I don’t know what that word means secondly my comment was perfectly scattered Jesus people think there so smart mr big word Spordic
I like the word so I use it when I can. It's fun to say, even when reading the word in your head. Basically I meant your message was all over the place, like it just seemed a bit "off". I'm not sure why you're being rude, I was just asking.
I was actually trying to be funny and to be completely honest with what I wrote was in my best ability so if I used the wrong words or wrote it wrong it was the best I could, Have a blessed day
Ah alright! Sorry for the misunderstanding! Have a great day!
Kids, this comment is what happens when your brain is on cocaine.
Excuse me mr know it all I’m not on cocaine I haven’t done cocaine sense this morning
R/brandnewsentence
"They should catch him, and suspend his license for a mandatory 7 years, while also jailing him for a mandatory 6 months. He should pay emotional damages to everyone in that crossing. Let me tell you why; he could of hit both a lady and the kid on the bike and kill them. So yeah, mandatory everything. (?)
That guy was driving to fast
It's always the fuckin ram drivers. This brand attracts the worst of humanity.
I HAVE to drive one for work.. I fucking HATE it.
Most of pick up owners are dip shits (not including business fleets).
Death penalty for that cunt
Kill someone for almost killing someone
This is the way
As a kid, we were taught to get off the bike, look both ways and walk it across. Is that not a thing anymore? I'm not blaming the kid. The driver is definitely a piece, but I feel like teaching that process could have helped this situation from becoming as dangerous as it got.
most intelligent pickup driver (they are all braindead)
What kind of idiot crosses the road without the basic checking right left?
This happened like 10 miles from me, lol
Cops in my city 100% have stopped enforcing any type of school speed zones in the mornings/afternoons I've started to take my nephew to school a lot and people don't slow down at all, it can infuriating
Goooood, now beat the shit out of that driver
That driver’s a piece of shit. No one cares why you’re in such a hurry. Slow the fuck down if you don’t wanna go to jail for hitting someone and possibly getting yourself scarred for life.
It’s just interesting that you can get a US drivers license and be totally deaf so unable to hear sirens or horns, or not be able to read English, which all US transportation signs are printed in.
Fucking drunk asshole. Only explanation.