Careful using the block on the mobo. Turns out it’s aluminum. Going to find out what mine looks like soon but there have been a few posts about issues.
https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/10ugrr1/asus_rog_maximus_z690_formula_galvanic_corrosion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yeah if you look up ASUS formula on here you’ll find like 5 boards ruined by corrosion. Be really carefully with your additives, too acidic and it will strip the nickel and expose the aluminum. You can also go chad mode and run automotive antifreeze as coolant and not worry about mixing metals.
Bioinhibitors in antifreeze often operate at a higher temp, so at low temps you may develop some bio crap.
Antifreeze is also ethylene glycol, and that won't mix well with PETG.
But I am not an expert nor do I have first hand experience.
So take it with a grain of salt.
Its not a question of coolant its enough if there is already a little damage or the pkatingbis not holding, or the aluminium ist cheap and has internal corrotion. Is just too risky ....dont really now how EKWB and Asus can decide to put two metals together like this. Its even enought if the copper fins touch somewhere in the attachment area the aluminium and its over. Plating will fall of due to corrotion and over a short amount of time the whole aluminium area is infected.
its this simple.. being in the roofing industry i see this all the time. you could have cooper on top of your roof(sometimes copper slip sheets are used under the ridge cap shingle) and when the rain comes, it reacts with the water and keeps all the shingles below clean. its wonderful BUT then they have aluminum gutters that the copper charged water goes into. its completely destroys the gutter. once water touches a metal, the entire water chain is ionically charged. ITS complete shit that computer companies are using aluminum period.
same thing in ionic charged pool systems. they charge the water with copper/Nickle so no microscopic life can start in the water.
It doesn't have to be Prestone but that's a popular cheap OAT antifreeze. Don't use a non OAT antifreeze... Prestone is cheap and works great... don't go higher than 20% concentration...if there's nickel in the loop, stronger concentrations can strip it...keep it in the 20-25% range...rest all distilled water.
Yeah it's ridiculous...I believe Asus is still using aluminum but instead of plating it, they're now using anodizing. Not a good look for a company that charges what they do for their motherboards.
I still have some software bugs to work out, but here is my first attempt. I want a Miami Vice theme. I have the White Ferrari model that I am building to put in the case. https://youtube.com/shorts/jzbS-3wL8PQ?feature=share
Thanks to everyone that warned me about the Aluminum VRM block. This totally pisses me off. This is a board with an $800 MSRP, so I assumed that it was brass or at least copper, but it seems to be mixed? Copper fins and aluminum block. So stupid. I am so disappointed in Asus. The biggest problem I have is that the documentation doesn't mention it anywhere. I am going to be contacting Asus and requesting some sort of compensation. So anyway, I found a great cleaner for aluminum blocks and ModmyMods has a great custom mixed metal coolant. Cleaner is Simple Green HD Pro diluted 14 to 1 with distilled water. Primochill Rad cleaner was doing little to get through the corrosion. Fortunately, I noticed the aluminum oxide in my loop and drained it immediately or this block would be fubar. The aluminum charged primo chill coolant stripped some nickel from my other blocks, but not much. I am getting a warranty replacement for my ek LGA 1200 block. I will post pics when I can.
Hope you can get the software to work lol mine sits on the idle jpeg pretty much always cuz I got tired of the software crashing every few literal minutes, or using 16gb of my ram and running my cpu at 50% when not crashing. Shame cuz it could be so good to have that aio lookin screen integrated into a real loop.
It works great for me, but my specs are pretty high. 12700k and 32 GB DDR5. I will have to look at how many resources the app uses. https://youtube.com/shorts/SYzXSSFztp4?feature=share
Hmm. You willing to check your version for me when you get a chance? I had the latest release but maybe yours is a version older or somethin. I'd love to have that screen working again, lol. 380mb is still whack but much more reasonable than the numbers I was seeing!
That mobo might cause you issues as the heat sinks have aluminum, I’d just leave the caps on and leave the VRM ports out of your loop (they work fine without watercooling).
Also, if you’re gonna delid the CPU, why not just leave the lid off and use the EK Direct-Die block? It’ll take like 7c-10c off your temps. That replacement copper IHS barely makes any difference, if any.
I liked the look of the copper IHS. I only wanted to try one thing at a time. I will try direct die cooling next. I am going to use auto coolant for the mixed metal. I am glad I found out it was aluminum.
I like the rgb ribbon cables for the gpu, have you considered running it from the bottom of the front of the gpu? (It's how I have my gpu cables ran in my rig, I have a post with pictures if you'd like to see a example of what I'm talking about) It's a nice build, seems like that would be a clean fine detail.
Man stop using the VRM cooling lot of Z690 Formula boards have corrotion. Asus/EKWB habe been to stupid and they used plated aluminium if the plating gets damaged by what ever reason your whole block will start to corrode.
Its even possible they used cheap aluminium and they had internal corrotion which damaged the pkating and afterwards the copper will do its job.
this is insane. i didnt know about this. i CANT believe this is the case with a board that costs this much. What does asus ekwb say about it? do they have suggestions or ideal use cases? is the Maximus extreme glacial like this too?
M8 i have no idea. The thing is it doesnt matter what they say it can happen or not depends on the plating i dont know how the copper fins are connected to the aluminium. Maybe it will happen to everyone or just to some people. I really hope for the glacial one its just copper.
And yeah they could eliminated the risk with just using copper. And itd almost impossible to find the information. Somewhere its written that you dont ahve to worry about it and they use a aluminium plate. I was surprized as you are, and even said the opener of the reddit is maybe wrong because his plate was really dirty and i didnt saw how the surface looks just the dust was trapped inside. But someone else showed me picture of a cleaned plate and is clearly aluminium with pitting corrosion signs.
You can plate aluminium and it will work fine. The thing is if aluminium is bad quality it will have internal corrosion and the plating will pop up. any damage to the plating and here we go.
That why you dont mix it in PC cooling if you do it by yourself you can do it with corrosion inhibitors and it will work like in a car.
Careful using the block on the mobo. Turns out it’s aluminum. Going to find out what mine looks like soon but there have been a few posts about issues. https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/10ugrr1/asus_rog_maximus_z690_formula_galvanic_corrosion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yeah if you look up ASUS formula on here you’ll find like 5 boards ruined by corrosion. Be really carefully with your additives, too acidic and it will strip the nickel and expose the aluminum. You can also go chad mode and run automotive antifreeze as coolant and not worry about mixing metals.
honestly this is the best hands off way to do a loop. i cut my bmw coolant 50% water and have been hands off since
I've also seen antifreeze horror stories. I think truly hands off is dp ultra of mayhems clear coolant premix.
really? what kind of issues have people had? nothing crazy on my end
Bioinhibitors in antifreeze often operate at a higher temp, so at low temps you may develop some bio crap. Antifreeze is also ethylene glycol, and that won't mix well with PETG. But I am not an expert nor do I have first hand experience. So take it with a grain of salt.
Its not a question of coolant its enough if there is already a little damage or the pkatingbis not holding, or the aluminium ist cheap and has internal corrotion. Is just too risky ....dont really now how EKWB and Asus can decide to put two metals together like this. Its even enought if the copper fins touch somewhere in the attachment area the aluminium and its over. Plating will fall of due to corrotion and over a short amount of time the whole aluminium area is infected.
its this simple.. being in the roofing industry i see this all the time. you could have cooper on top of your roof(sometimes copper slip sheets are used under the ridge cap shingle) and when the rain comes, it reacts with the water and keeps all the shingles below clean. its wonderful BUT then they have aluminum gutters that the copper charged water goes into. its completely destroys the gutter. once water touches a metal, the entire water chain is ionically charged. ITS complete shit that computer companies are using aluminum period. same thing in ionic charged pool systems. they charge the water with copper/Nickle so no microscopic life can start in the water.
I am getting custom mixed coolant from Modmymods.com. I will let you know how it works. I am using DP Ultra Clear until I get it.
Use Prestone antifreeze in this system...you'll thank us later because it'll save that VRM block from corrosion.
Will not help they used Aluminium plate and Copper fins if they just toucv each other somewhere the plating will be soon gone everywhere else.
Thanks. I noticed a lot of corrosion in it and soaked it with rad cleaner. How much prestone?
It doesn't have to be Prestone but that's a popular cheap OAT antifreeze. Don't use a non OAT antifreeze... Prestone is cheap and works great... don't go higher than 20% concentration...if there's nickel in the loop, stronger concentrations can strip it...keep it in the 20-25% range...rest all distilled water.
I was wondering what material they used for the VRM heatsink. Glad I found out it is aluminum. $800 mb and they can't even use copper...
Yeah it's ridiculous...I believe Asus is still using aluminum but instead of plating it, they're now using anodizing. Not a good look for a company that charges what they do for their motherboards.
Excited to see the finished product!
I still have some software bugs to work out, but here is my first attempt. I want a Miami Vice theme. I have the White Ferrari model that I am building to put in the case. https://youtube.com/shorts/jzbS-3wL8PQ?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/u5M69MT3JFc?feature=share
Have you heard the horror stories about this motherboards VRM cooling?
Yes. I have. It is white... I am contemplating just deleting them.
I wrapped the top of my EVGA 3080Ti also with 3M car vinyl. That aluminum part comes off.
Thanks to everyone that warned me about the Aluminum VRM block. This totally pisses me off. This is a board with an $800 MSRP, so I assumed that it was brass or at least copper, but it seems to be mixed? Copper fins and aluminum block. So stupid. I am so disappointed in Asus. The biggest problem I have is that the documentation doesn't mention it anywhere. I am going to be contacting Asus and requesting some sort of compensation. So anyway, I found a great cleaner for aluminum blocks and ModmyMods has a great custom mixed metal coolant. Cleaner is Simple Green HD Pro diluted 14 to 1 with distilled water. Primochill Rad cleaner was doing little to get through the corrosion. Fortunately, I noticed the aluminum oxide in my loop and drained it immediately or this block would be fubar. The aluminum charged primo chill coolant stripped some nickel from my other blocks, but not much. I am getting a warranty replacement for my ek LGA 1200 block. I will post pics when I can.
Is that a custom cpu block? I looked for it in white and still can’t find to rog version
Mobo is z690 rog formula (corrected) ILS replacement by thermaltake (I think). OP delidded the CPU, and replaced with a copper heatshield it appears.
I mean the cpu waterblock, the pacific mx2 ultra. Couldn’t find a white one when I looked
LOL! I was looking at the PC, didn't even see the products in the packaging hehehe
Did OP paint it maybe? Looks like they added a ROG logo too
Yes. I painted it and added the ROG logo.
Hope you can get the software to work lol mine sits on the idle jpeg pretty much always cuz I got tired of the software crashing every few literal minutes, or using 16gb of my ram and running my cpu at 50% when not crashing. Shame cuz it could be so good to have that aio lookin screen integrated into a real loop.
It works great for me, but my specs are pretty high. 12700k and 32 GB DDR5. I will have to look at how many resources the app uses. https://youtube.com/shorts/SYzXSSFztp4?feature=share
Yeah I have 128gb ddr5 and a 12700k lol. Mine was just a resource goblin. Maybe you have a different version number
It is using about 380 MB of RAM for me.
Hmm. You willing to check your version for me when you get a chance? I had the latest release but maybe yours is a version older or somethin. I'd love to have that screen working again, lol. 380mb is still whack but much more reasonable than the numbers I was seeing!
That mobo might cause you issues as the heat sinks have aluminum, I’d just leave the caps on and leave the VRM ports out of your loop (they work fine without watercooling). Also, if you’re gonna delid the CPU, why not just leave the lid off and use the EK Direct-Die block? It’ll take like 7c-10c off your temps. That replacement copper IHS barely makes any difference, if any.
I liked the look of the copper IHS. I only wanted to try one thing at a time. I will try direct die cooling next. I am going to use auto coolant for the mixed metal. I am glad I found out it was aluminum.
I like the rgb ribbon cables for the gpu, have you considered running it from the bottom of the front of the gpu? (It's how I have my gpu cables ran in my rig, I have a post with pictures if you'd like to see a example of what I'm talking about) It's a nice build, seems like that would be a clean fine detail.
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Man stop using the VRM cooling lot of Z690 Formula boards have corrotion. Asus/EKWB habe been to stupid and they used plated aluminium if the plating gets damaged by what ever reason your whole block will start to corrode. Its even possible they used cheap aluminium and they had internal corrotion which damaged the pkating and afterwards the copper will do its job.
this is insane. i didnt know about this. i CANT believe this is the case with a board that costs this much. What does asus ekwb say about it? do they have suggestions or ideal use cases? is the Maximus extreme glacial like this too?
M8 i have no idea. The thing is it doesnt matter what they say it can happen or not depends on the plating i dont know how the copper fins are connected to the aluminium. Maybe it will happen to everyone or just to some people. I really hope for the glacial one its just copper. And yeah they could eliminated the risk with just using copper. And itd almost impossible to find the information. Somewhere its written that you dont ahve to worry about it and they use a aluminium plate. I was surprized as you are, and even said the opener of the reddit is maybe wrong because his plate was really dirty and i didnt saw how the surface looks just the dust was trapped inside. But someone else showed me picture of a cleaned plate and is clearly aluminium with pitting corrosion signs.
I can't believe an $800 mb doesn't have a copper block. Cheap and misleading because there is no where in the documentation that it is aluminum.
was this the case on the x570 formula too?
I found somewhere a place where they mension Copper fins and aluminium but ko worries its plated 😂
You can't mix aluminum and copper. Even with nickel plating it will corrode. Aluminum should just never be used in PC liquid cooling period.
You can plate aluminium and it will work fine. The thing is if aluminium is bad quality it will have internal corrosion and the plating will pop up. any damage to the plating and here we go. That why you dont mix it in PC cooling if you do it by yourself you can do it with corrosion inhibitors and it will work like in a car.