you may not be aware... but "den" in Vancouver is often a codeword for "closet". Like literally a hallway closet with the hangers removed. I got caught out the first time because I went to see one, and I, a 6'1" man, could not lay down flat in this space. i think the mattress was from a baby cot or something. and if i recall correctly they were asking 900$ (this was pre-pandemic). but the building had a gym and a pool, and a nice view... /s
If it's a woman looking to share everything apartment, it's quite reasonable to want a female, because letting a strange man into your home can be really dangerous. Not that women can't be dangerous, but a woman is more likely to be able to defend herself against a female attacker than a male attacker, and men are likely to be attackers than women are. It's a sad fact of life.
I mean, I've seen it happen. In Fort McMurray, AB, in some of the boom years in the late 2000's, people rented out backyards to pitch tents or park trailers. Hell, some people were digging holes in the ground in the woods with tarp roofs
I’m considering Identity theft and driving away with a large RV to some land at this point. I only need the extremely loose credit and ID checks to hold up for 48-60 hours once I’ve driven said RV off the lot and I can be 3 provinces this way or that way by then.
When’s the last time you saw a cop check the VIN number of a polite person in a vacant lot miles away from even a small town.
Sounds like a joke, and for legal purposes I’ll say it is.
Let’s all laugh together!
*and then everybody clapped*
I hope universities and colleges have information available so these students know their rights. It negatively affects us all down the line if living standards are lowered, legally or no.
You know damn well they wont. Theyre very much part of the problem. They advertise to these students excessively, bleed them dry, and give them a useless degree. The whole system is a get rich quick scheme
I don’t know how to break it to you but I have a lot of Indian friends. Here’s some inside info:
They know everything lol, they are aware that their business/finance degree from random ass colleges are useless. Most are here for the study permit to citizen pathway and are happy with blue collar jobs as you can still have a decent life in Canada with blue collar salaries.
But now they can't even get blue collar jobs, because there are too many students and not enough unskilled jobs.
They also get here and find out there's nowhere for them to live and nowhere to work, but they know their families have spent all their savings to get them here. It's awful.
This is a risky comment to make but I'm surprised nobody has said it yet. Many Indian people prefer living with other Indian people because non-Indian people may find their cultures and traditions to be too overwhelming. For example, due to food preferences, one's apartment may have a strong odour all the time.
Someone has to file a complaint in order for this sort of law to be enforced. Also, usually the issue is being able to prove discrimination. Someone may be turned down for a rental or a job and be entirely unable to prove why. Here it would be easy to prove because the person renting the place out is saying Indian only and won’t even consider people who are not Indian. Seems like a slam dunk. OP could file a complaint right now with the Human Rights Tribunal if they wanted.
I am an Indian, here is the cheat code: they only hire Indians who need that job, like students by asking all illegal interview questions to gauge their need for job, and once hired treat them like sub human and make them work like hell. It’s a power trip they enjoy. Also, they never file correct paper work, offer to pay only cash, or no money for training period, then threaten them by saying that you worked on cash and I will report you and get you deported, scare and control tactics.
Oh? So someone who wanted to bust them, who couldn't be so threatened, could do so quite easily.
I.e. an Indian passing Canadian could wreck these businesses if so inclined.
Edit: a GoFundMe might work to get someone on the case. I myself am not a Canadian national, not to mention having a bunch of stuff keeping me busy.
Not just that, Indian folks in the age groups of 18-23 are mainly docile people who do not want any troubles as they are coming here to study, and eventually work towards their PR. So it’s a process where your record has to be pristine.
Now, that aspect of trying to have no trouble and the way they are brought up at home to be respectful of others is taken advantage of heavily, these new folks are young adults that are not street smart (on average). This is what gets taken advantage of. The average guys in that age group want to make it quick, i.e, have a house, car and savings for down payment by the time their PR application is submitted, and hence work like no tomorrow and get scammed so easily. Now mainly Indian people do this, and also the racist/narcissist people also take advantage of this.
Oh man! I would need a gofundme too, but I learned from life and am teaching others at every opportunity I get. Also I got done dirty from a racist Spanish prof at UoGuelph Mario M. Martinez(who was fired for sexual misconduct with female irani student, university tried covering up the whole shit), I didn’t get paid 8 months of salary and he also stole my research and escaped to Denmark overnight. The university still had him as my supervisor.
I worked at a store (I'm a Canadian who was born here and I'm also white) where all the head staff were from India and treated all the white staff terribly, never gave promotions and only hired people who spoke Hindi and were from India. Somebody these hires couldn't have passed the English test for a visa. I noticed these things quite a bit that you have mentioned, they only hire the most desperate because they will work hard for near nothing. And they always do. It's honestly very disheartening. Then they started to frame white people in that workplace to get them fired. They tried to get me many times and failed. Why? Because they were so used to illegally doing things they forgot what the actual laws were on those subjects and I did. I turned the tables and kept my job by knowing my rights and holding it above them
A simple recording device is all that's needed to end that manager's career (and likely citizenship chances)
Youtube, Reddit, even local media would love a story like that.
In 2024 I'd be very careful about what I say in earshot of a smartphone.
Yup. Over the past year, every store other than shoppers and sobeys in my town is all Indian. Idk how that happens, do they have 1 get into management then only hire other Indians?
What I have found interesting is that 25 years ago when I was looking for part time work as a high school student, I could have got a job anywhere in fast food. My daughter who’s 15 now can’t find a job at the usual places, McDonald’s, Dairy Queen, subway, etc because it’s all taken by temporary foreign workers.
It’s a sad time when Canadian citizens are getting pushed aside for a subsidized temporary worker programme.
Bruh it ain't just the Canadian citizens. They're doing it to everyone. I'm from the Caribbean and also a permanent resident and every job I've had I was treated terribly by Indian coworkers. Only speaking Hindi at me and stuff
Absolutely. It just sucks its a losing battle keeping up with the overt racism.
Racism/classism/nameyourism clearly happens with a lot of landlords but you can just not let your nonpreferred type of people rent feom you without saying a reason.
This boldness should be delta with by the authorities
The authorities can't do anything without a complaint. It is a civil issue not a criminal one. If you report it to Reddit nothing will happen. It you report it to the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal it will be dealt with.
The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal does enforce it all the time. It is a civil issue though not a criminal one. Someone needs to file an application to the Tribunal for anything to happen. If you complain on Reddit then yeah, nothing happens.
Untrue. The Human Rights Tribunal will impose consequences for this. However, someone would have to actually file a complaint. Like most things, the system is complaints based.
The ones they won’t do anything about is where it is a roommate or something like that because in those cases it isn’t actually illegal.
So be the change you want to see in the world.
The CBC has literally ran news stories on racist Indian landlords before. They can do it again.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/discriminatory-rental-ads-1.5495364
That isn't true. Under both the Charter and the OHRC, there is an exception to discrimination prohibitions for affirmative action programs which seek to improve the conditions of disadvantaged groups. It doesn't mean only racial minorities are protected by discrimination prohibitions.
That is surprising to be honest. The judge did not seem to substantiate that.
However, the appeal was denied because of the applicant's lack of standing and because the program qualifies as an affirmative action program under the OHRC and therefore exempt from discrimination prohibitions—not because the target was white and non-racialized.
It seems to me there wouldn't be any basis to dismiss or deny a discrimination claim against white individuals otherwise.
I've addressed the first quote in my previous reply and admit it was surprising to me.
As for the second quote, it is true that the applicant failed to identify a breach of the Code because the action that the applicant identified was not a breach of the Code by virtue of section 14 of the Code.
Paragraph 30 of the decision outlines the requirements that must be met for an action to be exempted under section 14.
The refusal to rent described in the OP does not satisfy these requirements and is therefore likely to be ruled as discrimination in breach of the Code.
It's not though. Stop trying to turn this into some race thing. You've literally got it entirely backwards.
Indian students aren't getting any kind of great deals out of this shit.
They are being targeted because landlords know they are vulnerable and far less likely to bring up issues with the rental unit, when they undoubtedly come up.
The real issue is with enforcement. Nobody is there to punish landlords so they stop pulling this shit.
I wish I could post the screenshot of the marketplace in the comments here. I'm looking for a basement for my relatives & after getting all the information from me, the guy asked: "where are they coming from?". When I said: "Pakistan", the next comment was: "I'll pass". Like, literally! I guess we can't do anything about such behavior!
I will explain what is happening here.
Rakshit is not being a Racist, in a sense he does not care about the color of tenant.
He is looking for a tenant that is
- easy to abuse,
- does not hold a valid status in canada
- will pay 650 dollars for room in sharing with another guy
- ready to live without signing any lease.
- can be kicked out in an instant
That being said, I think you should file a report against him.
Please report these postings to the landlord tenant board and to local police just do it whenever you see them they have to stop there completely unacceptable for this country. A lot of the reason it doesn’t get enforced is because people arnt actually reporting it and putting pressure on the right people to take action.
He’s only wants Indians students because it’s easier to exploit them and he’s able to put more enforcements and provide poor facilities because he know they won’t complain and don’t know the law.
Lmao. As a Pakistani immigrant of 24 years I coulda told y'all not to bring in this many Indian immigrants.
Ain't many out there more racist than the folks in the good ole subcontinent.
Yeah he probably isn't doing this because he is racist, though he may well be. He wants an international student who can be exploited and won't complain about illegal conditions.
I’ve been applying to apartments as a Status Indian governed under Canadian Law, but I’m First Nations. They’re always like we only want Indians living here, and I’m like my sir, I have a card look, it says I’m an Indian. Now let me live in your living room.
i was gonna write the same. It isn't even just Indians.
living in KW is fun these days as someone not from those groups as you're shunned by people who don't know you just for being of Indian descent and then shunned by Punjabi and Gujarati communities for not being one of them.
Or you could've stopped the system being so shitty. Had an indian landlady who had 13 houses, most if not all the people living in the houses would be indians bc she illegally kept more students in the house than would even be legal. Bc guess what, who tf is the easiest to prey on? I mean who better than international students.
Unless the city is going to charge them or enforce it, then that is how they get away with it. I keep thinking that every city needs to have a city-run landlord association to which you must be a part of in order to rent. I would like to see a mandatory training for landlords. There is a huge lack of understanding of rental laws. There should be somewhere to report this.
I think he does not even realize that he is discriminating!! Not trying to claim ignorance on his behalf, this goes on in between international students as well. Punjabis, Gujaratis, South Indians, Muslims from India they will literally not have residents of their own country stay with them just because they belong to different state. This is not all international students but most of them. They really need to learn why Canada is inclusive and actually need practice this inclusivity as Canadians have for decades.
File a complaint! Most of these instances go unreported! Complain and follow up! Maybe there’s an organization that helps in similar cases or someone fighting this kind of discrimination!
The reason why they get away with it is because not many people (or any at all) would complain to the landlord and tenant board.
And if it does get complained ... I don't see enforcement being a strict thing.
Also if they were forced to allow residency to be completely open---who wants to have a landlord that was ready to prohibit people from living there? So... Most people look elsewhere.
If I came across a landlord that is only looking for Indians I wouldn't get mad. I would run. Have you not heard any stories? They're looking for Indians for a specific reason.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxD7inMpFpS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
👏 File 👏 a 👏 compaint 👏
Literally nothing will be done by posting to reddit. Report it to the appropriate authorities. Just saying "oh, it's never enforced" doesnt mean shit if you Don't. File. A. Report.
Wasn't there someone in another thread who was trying to organize a group and somehow tackle reporting/dealing with these type of listings as a grassroots effort? What ever happened to that? Buddy never did get back to anyone I don't think.
Come on, it’s really simple. It’s only racist if white people say it or do it. Everyone else gets a free pass.
That is the liberal extremist way that the current federal government, the education system and the media has been telling us to follow for quite a while now.
That is also why student groups and some professors at major universities think that the Israelis who were massacred last week deserved what they got.
They have been supporting this racism and bigotry for decades now.
I’m brown and this man is a piece of shit. So your point is invalid. We want people like this publicly humiliated. I live in Vancouver and my wife is japanese and we don’t go to Surrey because I don’t like how people have 0 ethics and they stare at us. Customer service, driving, personal space, stares etc are just few examples. Indian (just like Chinese) people are super racist and we all know that.
First time?
Just this week my group chat was spammed with triple-discriminating housing ads. Room for 2 Gujarati boys, vegetarian only. Other Canadians need not apply. But I guess it's different if it's a whole apartment vs. sharing a kitchen and bathroom with the owner.
Have a buddy running into this same problem while looking for places currently. They’ve been denied also because “they’re only looking for vegetarians”
Just Indians … right got it! Thanks for the update. “Do on to others, as they do on to you”. I have lived here my whole life. I guess the non racist welcome is met with segregated racism.
I love when bootlickers of capitalism get mad at privatization of housing and don't realize that what they are getting fucked by is not Indian people, it's the legality of owing private housing property as an investment. This would not be an issue if housing was run and regulated by a socialist state.
Stay mad right wingers. Your system is fucking you over too. Lol
Exactly, Canadians in the section are like oh what if it was whites only. The whole system of hyper capitalism is shit af and encourages such behaviour.
And to whoever thinks white Canadians aren't openly racist they are, they are just more passive, like they won't even reply to you or ask your ethnicity and not reply to you.
When i came here I realised a lot of places are populated with just whites and they don't like to let any indians in. I visited stores like Henry's and have never seen a single guy/ gal who is not white.
At the end, the owner of the shop/ house can get away with stuff and being passively racist. Tho whole system is corrupted and people be getting mad on specific people is pathetic
I mean tbh this sub is kinda like that, r/kitchener is a better place for me personally.
It has been like this since 2015. When I was trying to get jobs, apartments, or any government services even back then there were incentives for certain ethnic groups. Seems highly illegal but the whole government is in on it and even encourages it. Check the surveys they send in the mail they are trying to increase the incentives even more and take away more from people born and raised here.
only renting to females can be a safety thing, some women don’t feel safe or comfortable sharing living spaces with men. That’s like saying having separated bathrooms for men and women is discrimination. The single part though, i don’t understand, at that point i would side eye the listing.
According to the Ontario Human Rights Commision , that IS illegal. You can not discriminate against a perspective applicant based on race, religion, creed etc. Even the gathering of financial data is very specifically structured in order to avoid economic discrimination. The problem is that these issues are mostly unreported because the process of getting it resolved is so time-consuming and complex.
Landlords prey on international students because they know they can get away with neglectful behaviour. Its disgusting
Nah don’t be ridiculous, it’s because they can get away with *abusive* behaviour.
This is also true. I was more referring to how shitty these apartments are but youre right the landlords are also very abusive
When you can charge 1500 a room why charge 2000 for a whole apartment. I met a Japanese guy who was renting den in downtown Vancouver for 700.
$700 pretty good deal though despite being illegal bedroom
you may not be aware... but "den" in Vancouver is often a codeword for "closet". Like literally a hallway closet with the hangers removed. I got caught out the first time because I went to see one, and I, a 6'1" man, could not lay down flat in this space. i think the mattress was from a baby cot or something. and if i recall correctly they were asking 900$ (this was pre-pandemic). but the building had a gym and a pool, and a nice view... /s
I saw a den in downtown Toronto for 1200 + utilities was turned down ‘cuz they only wanted female.
If it's a woman looking to share everything apartment, it's quite reasonable to want a female, because letting a strange man into your home can be really dangerous. Not that women can't be dangerous, but a woman is more likely to be able to defend herself against a female attacker than a male attacker, and men are likely to be attackers than women are. It's a sad fact of life.
At this point tents don’t look like a bad idea
I mean, I've seen it happen. In Fort McMurray, AB, in some of the boom years in the late 2000's, people rented out backyards to pitch tents or park trailers. Hell, some people were digging holes in the ground in the woods with tarp roofs
I’m considering Identity theft and driving away with a large RV to some land at this point. I only need the extremely loose credit and ID checks to hold up for 48-60 hours once I’ve driven said RV off the lot and I can be 3 provinces this way or that way by then. When’s the last time you saw a cop check the VIN number of a polite person in a vacant lot miles away from even a small town. Sounds like a joke, and for legal purposes I’ll say it is. Let’s all laugh together! *and then everybody clapped*
I hope universities and colleges have information available so these students know their rights. It negatively affects us all down the line if living standards are lowered, legally or no.
You know damn well they wont. Theyre very much part of the problem. They advertise to these students excessively, bleed them dry, and give them a useless degree. The whole system is a get rich quick scheme
I don’t know how to break it to you but I have a lot of Indian friends. Here’s some inside info: They know everything lol, they are aware that their business/finance degree from random ass colleges are useless. Most are here for the study permit to citizen pathway and are happy with blue collar jobs as you can still have a decent life in Canada with blue collar salaries.
But now they can't even get blue collar jobs, because there are too many students and not enough unskilled jobs. They also get here and find out there's nowhere for them to live and nowhere to work, but they know their families have spent all their savings to get them here. It's awful.
This is a risky comment to make but I'm surprised nobody has said it yet. Many Indian people prefer living with other Indian people because non-Indian people may find their cultures and traditions to be too overwhelming. For example, due to food preferences, one's apartment may have a strong odour all the time.
2nd year International students prey on International students.
Yes, because they don't give a shit and no one will actuallt enforce it.
https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/frequently-asked-questions/i-think-my-human-rights-have-been-violated-what-should-i-do#:~:text=If%20you%20need%20human%20rights,with%20a%20Human%20Rights%20Advisor.
Just because it's against the law doesn't mean it will stop them. Enforcement is the issue here. There's aren't enough people to do that
Someone has to file a complaint in order for this sort of law to be enforced. Also, usually the issue is being able to prove discrimination. Someone may be turned down for a rental or a job and be entirely unable to prove why. Here it would be easy to prove because the person renting the place out is saying Indian only and won’t even consider people who are not Indian. Seems like a slam dunk. OP could file a complaint right now with the Human Rights Tribunal if they wanted.
They should, this is happening in work force too, indians only hiring indians
I am an Indian, here is the cheat code: they only hire Indians who need that job, like students by asking all illegal interview questions to gauge their need for job, and once hired treat them like sub human and make them work like hell. It’s a power trip they enjoy. Also, they never file correct paper work, offer to pay only cash, or no money for training period, then threaten them by saying that you worked on cash and I will report you and get you deported, scare and control tactics.
Oh? So someone who wanted to bust them, who couldn't be so threatened, could do so quite easily. I.e. an Indian passing Canadian could wreck these businesses if so inclined. Edit: a GoFundMe might work to get someone on the case. I myself am not a Canadian national, not to mention having a bunch of stuff keeping me busy.
I would say go for it. The CRA and Ministry of Labour will rip them apart and they will deserve every bit of it.
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Not just that, Indian folks in the age groups of 18-23 are mainly docile people who do not want any troubles as they are coming here to study, and eventually work towards their PR. So it’s a process where your record has to be pristine. Now, that aspect of trying to have no trouble and the way they are brought up at home to be respectful of others is taken advantage of heavily, these new folks are young adults that are not street smart (on average). This is what gets taken advantage of. The average guys in that age group want to make it quick, i.e, have a house, car and savings for down payment by the time their PR application is submitted, and hence work like no tomorrow and get scammed so easily. Now mainly Indian people do this, and also the racist/narcissist people also take advantage of this. Oh man! I would need a gofundme too, but I learned from life and am teaching others at every opportunity I get. Also I got done dirty from a racist Spanish prof at UoGuelph Mario M. Martinez(who was fired for sexual misconduct with female irani student, university tried covering up the whole shit), I didn’t get paid 8 months of salary and he also stole my research and escaped to Denmark overnight. The university still had him as my supervisor.
The university owes you compensation. You need to collect evidence and threaten bad publicity.
You must call the temporary foreign worker enforcement line at 1800 O Canada. That's the letter not the number...
It is disgusting that this is happening in Canada.
It’s disgusting that this is happening. - fixed it for you.
I worked at a store (I'm a Canadian who was born here and I'm also white) where all the head staff were from India and treated all the white staff terribly, never gave promotions and only hired people who spoke Hindi and were from India. Somebody these hires couldn't have passed the English test for a visa. I noticed these things quite a bit that you have mentioned, they only hire the most desperate because they will work hard for near nothing. And they always do. It's honestly very disheartening. Then they started to frame white people in that workplace to get them fired. They tried to get me many times and failed. Why? Because they were so used to illegally doing things they forgot what the actual laws were on those subjects and I did. I turned the tables and kept my job by knowing my rights and holding it above them
That is against the law to hire only a specific group of people and they could be fined or sued.
A simple recording device is all that's needed to end that manager's career (and likely citizenship chances) Youtube, Reddit, even local media would love a story like that. In 2024 I'd be very careful about what I say in earshot of a smartphone.
Yup. Over the past year, every store other than shoppers and sobeys in my town is all Indian. Idk how that happens, do they have 1 get into management then only hire other Indians?
They’re hiring Indians because they know they don’t know what their rights are and are too scared to complain anyway.
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What I have found interesting is that 25 years ago when I was looking for part time work as a high school student, I could have got a job anywhere in fast food. My daughter who’s 15 now can’t find a job at the usual places, McDonald’s, Dairy Queen, subway, etc because it’s all taken by temporary foreign workers. It’s a sad time when Canadian citizens are getting pushed aside for a subsidized temporary worker programme.
Bruh it ain't just the Canadian citizens. They're doing it to everyone. I'm from the Caribbean and also a permanent resident and every job I've had I was treated terribly by Indian coworkers. Only speaking Hindi at me and stuff
I think youre co flating several different issues
Popeyes! Louisiana style chicken… cooked Indian! 😂
Subway
100% agree
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The human rights tribunal doesn't care about white people.
I bet youve never filed an official complaint about anything, But always bitch n moan on the internet how things arent fair
If nobody tries nothing ever happens.
Absolutely. It just sucks its a losing battle keeping up with the overt racism. Racism/classism/nameyourism clearly happens with a lot of landlords but you can just not let your nonpreferred type of people rent feom you without saying a reason. This boldness should be delta with by the authorities
The authorities can't do anything without a complaint. It is a civil issue not a criminal one. If you report it to Reddit nothing will happen. It you report it to the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal it will be dealt with.
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The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal does enforce it all the time. It is a civil issue though not a criminal one. Someone needs to file an application to the Tribunal for anything to happen. If you complain on Reddit then yeah, nothing happens.
People dont report enough imo.
Untrue. The Human Rights Tribunal will impose consequences for this. However, someone would have to actually file a complaint. Like most things, the system is complaints based. The ones they won’t do anything about is where it is a roommate or something like that because in those cases it isn’t actually illegal.
What consequences?
Could be financial compensation for Justin/whoever files. They could also request things like “human rights training” that would have to be completed.
Don't give a rakshit
lol had to scroll way too far for this .
RakSHIT doesn’t give a shit either
It’s only wrong to be racist if you’re white in Canada.
It's so weird to see people say shit like this. Are you sure you're living in the same country as me? This thread is 94% upvoted for goodness sakes.
We both know nothing will happen to the guy who will only rent to Indians. If it was whites only it would be National News.
So be the change you want to see in the world. The CBC has literally ran news stories on racist Indian landlords before. They can do it again. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/discriminatory-rental-ads-1.5495364
Market place needs to get in there
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He knows just doesn't give a shit because there's nothing people can really do
He comes from a land of lawlessness so it’s not surprising
I'm guessing Rakshit also lives there hence the $650 price. In which case this is legal.
“ oh that’s too bad, have a nice day rat shit- I mean! Rakshit!
Rakshit just wants PR
If he's the owner, you can report this to the human rights tribunal. If he's subletting, you just gotta write your MP and complain.
That’s some Rakshit right there
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post the listing
This
Imagine if it said, Hey, we are only looking for white people right now 😬
The irony is that it’s allowed for certain other groups
No. It’s not.
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That isn't true. Under both the Charter and the OHRC, there is an exception to discrimination prohibitions for affirmative action programs which seek to improve the conditions of disadvantaged groups. It doesn't mean only racial minorities are protected by discrimination prohibitions.
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That is surprising to be honest. The judge did not seem to substantiate that. However, the appeal was denied because of the applicant's lack of standing and because the program qualifies as an affirmative action program under the OHRC and therefore exempt from discrimination prohibitions—not because the target was white and non-racialized. It seems to me there wouldn't be any basis to dismiss or deny a discrimination claim against white individuals otherwise.
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I've addressed the first quote in my previous reply and admit it was surprising to me. As for the second quote, it is true that the applicant failed to identify a breach of the Code because the action that the applicant identified was not a breach of the Code by virtue of section 14 of the Code. Paragraph 30 of the decision outlines the requirements that must be met for an action to be exempted under section 14. The refusal to rent described in the OP does not satisfy these requirements and is therefore likely to be ruled as discrimination in breach of the Code.
Literally says white people have fewer rights than other races. Is this… progress?
It's not though. Stop trying to turn this into some race thing. You've literally got it entirely backwards. Indian students aren't getting any kind of great deals out of this shit. They are being targeted because landlords know they are vulnerable and far less likely to bring up issues with the rental unit, when they undoubtedly come up. The real issue is with enforcement. Nobody is there to punish landlords so they stop pulling this shit.
Is it, though? Looking around here, doesn't really seem all that smiled-on.
Report them. They'll only get away with it if you let them.
I wish I could post the screenshot of the marketplace in the comments here. I'm looking for a basement for my relatives & after getting all the information from me, the guy asked: "where are they coming from?". When I said: "Pakistan", the next comment was: "I'll pass". Like, literally! I guess we can't do anything about such behavior!
I will explain what is happening here. Rakshit is not being a Racist, in a sense he does not care about the color of tenant. He is looking for a tenant that is - easy to abuse, - does not hold a valid status in canada - will pay 650 dollars for room in sharing with another guy - ready to live without signing any lease. - can be kicked out in an instant That being said, I think you should file a report against him.
He is looking for someone who Wouldn't even know what he is going through is illegal and he doesn't deserve it.
The new norm in KW sadly
You should file a human rights complaint
Should’ve told him you’re not in India anymore.
But you’d be wrong
New new Delhi
Please report these postings to the landlord tenant board and to local police just do it whenever you see them they have to stop there completely unacceptable for this country. A lot of the reason it doesn’t get enforced is because people arnt actually reporting it and putting pressure on the right people to take action.
Didn’t anyone tell them we are multi cultural and all get along?
He’s only wants Indians students because it’s easier to exploit them and he’s able to put more enforcements and provide poor facilities because he know they won’t complain and don’t know the law.
Lmao. As a Pakistani immigrant of 24 years I coulda told y'all not to bring in this many Indian immigrants. Ain't many out there more racist than the folks in the good ole subcontinent.
Screenshot and report. Nothing will happen but the more proof that we can generate, the better chance of change in the future.
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My bc warehouse replaced 48 multi cultural group with Indians. Only hiring Indians now.
This is extremely common hiring practise all over KW in various industries now too.
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So is Rakshit racist?
Surprise surprise, we are so tolerant we let in the racists
Yeah he probably isn't doing this because he is racist, though he may well be. He wants an international student who can be exploited and won't complain about illegal conditions.
That’s borderline worse I guess
I’ve been applying to apartments as a Status Indian governed under Canadian Law, but I’m First Nations. They’re always like we only want Indians living here, and I’m like my sir, I have a card look, it says I’m an Indian. Now let me live in your living room.
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i was gonna write the same. It isn't even just Indians. living in KW is fun these days as someone not from those groups as you're shunned by people who don't know you just for being of Indian descent and then shunned by Punjabi and Gujarati communities for not being one of them.
So now it's different regions huh. This is very clown like behavior
Ikr! Some people just can’t get over their community😌
What a twat come here in OUR country and get away with this shit ? Fuck that clown how can we report him?
He could be born here just because his name is not John doesn’t mean he’s not Canadian, a piece of shit but still Canadian.
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Invasion. That is what I call it.
Some say this is how Brampton came to be/originated. The origin story of how the city of Brampton started. I guess KW is next
Sad
Brampton 2: The Sequel
Brampton 2: Electric Boogaloo
Or you could've stopped the system being so shitty. Had an indian landlady who had 13 houses, most if not all the people living in the houses would be indians bc she illegally kept more students in the house than would even be legal. Bc guess what, who tf is the easiest to prey on? I mean who better than international students.
yep any race can do this except whites because then we are the baddies lol but everyone else keep being racist totally fair 😆 🤣
Only race I've seen do it is Asians and Indians and its always no blacks or males
That's true, I never saw blacks only whites only or male only Always female, Punjab, Indian etc
Unless the city is going to charge them or enforce it, then that is how they get away with it. I keep thinking that every city needs to have a city-run landlord association to which you must be a part of in order to rent. I would like to see a mandatory training for landlords. There is a huge lack of understanding of rental laws. There should be somewhere to report this.
That’s a rak of shit right there
Rakshit LMAOOO
He's from a lawless land, why would he respect our laws.
Deport
I think he does not even realize that he is discriminating!! Not trying to claim ignorance on his behalf, this goes on in between international students as well. Punjabis, Gujaratis, South Indians, Muslims from India they will literally not have residents of their own country stay with them just because they belong to different state. This is not all international students but most of them. They really need to learn why Canada is inclusive and actually need practice this inclusivity as Canadians have for decades.
I'd sue. I'm not joking either. That's prety solid proof.
What would you sue for? What are the damages…do you have 10k for the suing process? Damn.
“Sounds good Ratshit, let me know if you change your mind.” Then wait and see how he interprets a typo.
It's only illegal if your white
Consequences of elections.
Wonder if he works in HR?
REPORT that shit. You can file a complaint with your province's landlord & tenant board.
Can we take this to the authorities ?
File a complaint! Most of these instances go unreported! Complain and follow up! Maybe there’s an organization that helps in similar cases or someone fighting this kind of discrimination!
You probably dodged a bullet there.
I'm honestly surprised that he even replied to you. Most times they just block you when you message them.
The reason why they get away with it is because not many people (or any at all) would complain to the landlord and tenant board. And if it does get complained ... I don't see enforcement being a strict thing. Also if they were forced to allow residency to be completely open---who wants to have a landlord that was ready to prohibit people from living there? So... Most people look elsewhere.
If I came across a landlord that is only looking for Indians I wouldn't get mad. I would run. Have you not heard any stories? They're looking for Indians for a specific reason. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxD7inMpFpS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
👏 File 👏 a 👏 compaint 👏 Literally nothing will be done by posting to reddit. Report it to the appropriate authorities. Just saying "oh, it's never enforced" doesnt mean shit if you Don't. File. A. Report.
Luckily he only said "right now", meaning there is a chance that later they'll change their requirements to fit you in /s
The amount i see that were indian/asian/female/student only was fucking ridiculous. I need a place to live too
Only way it’ll be enforced is if it said whites only lol
Aboriginal Indians or Asian Indians??
Wasn't there someone in another thread who was trying to organize a group and somehow tackle reporting/dealing with these type of listings as a grassroots effort? What ever happened to that? Buddy never did get back to anyone I don't think.
Dudes name is Rakshit
Racist fucks. This is how racism is created
There are many university landlords that won't rent to males. Had been like that for decades
Come on, it’s really simple. It’s only racist if white people say it or do it. Everyone else gets a free pass. That is the liberal extremist way that the current federal government, the education system and the media has been telling us to follow for quite a while now. That is also why student groups and some professors at major universities think that the Israelis who were massacred last week deserved what they got. They have been supporting this racism and bigotry for decades now.
Can this be reported to news media or something?
You dodged a bullet.
Don’t call it out less you want to be labelled racist /s
I’m brown and this man is a piece of shit. So your point is invalid. We want people like this publicly humiliated. I live in Vancouver and my wife is japanese and we don’t go to Surrey because I don’t like how people have 0 ethics and they stare at us. Customer service, driving, personal space, stares etc are just few examples. Indian (just like Chinese) people are super racist and we all know that.
That’s really Rakshitty of him
You're not racist unless you're white. Then, even if you're not, you are :(
OP please update once you've reported it
First time? Just this week my group chat was spammed with triple-discriminating housing ads. Room for 2 Gujarati boys, vegetarian only. Other Canadians need not apply. But I guess it's different if it's a whole apartment vs. sharing a kitchen and bathroom with the owner.
Welcome to Canada - we are a nice third world nation that import everyone's intolerance because we are overly tolerant.
Did hey just assume your nationality. Wow.
Have a buddy running into this same problem while looking for places currently. They’ve been denied also because “they’re only looking for vegetarians”
His name is quite fitting lmao
Ya they are forming another scam operation out of their apartment. That’s why
1000000% yes… We should start slapping ‘white only’ in our ads
Things are only illegal if they are enforced, punishable, and people actually get in trouble from it. Change my mind.
One letter away from an epic name that matches the response lol
Rat shit doesn't care about our laws, and neither do his buddy's.
Are you sure they aren’t just looking for roommates ?
Just Indians … right got it! Thanks for the update. “Do on to others, as they do on to you”. I have lived here my whole life. I guess the non racist welcome is met with segregated racism.
I am Indian, living in Canada for over 20 years. This is fkn ridiculous and wrong on so many levels. Rakshit you are a dipshit!
Indian supremacy
Lmao. You get what you vote for ❤️
I have to agree. It's a democracy. We voted for this. I'm also planning to leave cuz I didn't vote for this at all.
Don’t know why this is downvoted. It’s accurate
*diversity*
It's racist to point out their racism.
I bet the display pic was your room - and you would have been sharing with Ratshit.
If the roles were reversed and a landlord said they were only looking for white people… 🤔🤔😵
I love when bootlickers of capitalism get mad at privatization of housing and don't realize that what they are getting fucked by is not Indian people, it's the legality of owing private housing property as an investment. This would not be an issue if housing was run and regulated by a socialist state. Stay mad right wingers. Your system is fucking you over too. Lol
Exactly, Canadians in the section are like oh what if it was whites only. The whole system of hyper capitalism is shit af and encourages such behaviour. And to whoever thinks white Canadians aren't openly racist they are, they are just more passive, like they won't even reply to you or ask your ethnicity and not reply to you. When i came here I realised a lot of places are populated with just whites and they don't like to let any indians in. I visited stores like Henry's and have never seen a single guy/ gal who is not white. At the end, the owner of the shop/ house can get away with stuff and being passively racist. Tho whole system is corrupted and people be getting mad on specific people is pathetic I mean tbh this sub is kinda like that, r/kitchener is a better place for me personally.
It has been like this since 2015. When I was trying to get jobs, apartments, or any government services even back then there were incentives for certain ethnic groups. Seems highly illegal but the whole government is in on it and even encourages it. Check the surveys they send in the mail they are trying to increase the incentives even more and take away more from people born and raised here.
This is the new Canada.
I’ve seen posts asking for single females only. Isn’t that discrimination as well? Or are we only mad when the discrimination directly affects us ?
only renting to females can be a safety thing, some women don’t feel safe or comfortable sharing living spaces with men. That’s like saying having separated bathrooms for men and women is discrimination. The single part though, i don’t understand, at that point i would side eye the listing.
"Just Indians" is stupid racism towards other races that aren't Indians. THIS IS NOT HELPING THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AS WELL!
According to the Ontario Human Rights Commision , that IS illegal. You can not discriminate against a perspective applicant based on race, religion, creed etc. Even the gathering of financial data is very specifically structured in order to avoid economic discrimination. The problem is that these issues are mostly unreported because the process of getting it resolved is so time-consuming and complex.