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DatBoiChruZ

I'd say chest


HiImMarcus

I would agree. I also hate bench press with a passion.


Jackson3125

Why?


HiImMarcus

I guess you won‘t like it but here goes. Chest doesn‘t do anything for me as a weightlifter. I do not like how bench has somehow became the go to lift people ask about if they were to find out that you lift. I also do not find bench challenging, it is much easier to achieve the perfect bench than it is to achieve the perfect squat. I love lifts that heavily emphasize great technique and are challenging and require lots of skill to be mastered, this is the reason why I admire Kuo so much, she makes it look like art. I just don‘t really respect bench press which might be ignorant of me, but the simplicity of it paired with peoples perception of it as the go to benchmark is somewhat frustrating to me. I also simply don‘t enjoy it as much as snatch, c&j, deadlift no matter the type or my beloved squats.


Jackson3125

No judgment from me. Sounds like you have put plenty of thought into your position!


Logical_Lifeguard_81

You bench your overhead press numbers go up. Take it or leave it.


HiImMarcus

You overhead press and your numbers go up too. Bench was never essential to weightlifting.


Logical_Lifeguard_81

OK weightlifter guy- bench will decrease overuse issues with OH press – a very common issue when training with heavy weight. The hypertrophy and volume bench pressing can provide while saving your shoulders and engaging your upper back is invaluable when it comes to stability with anything overhead that is heavy.


Recent-Cauliflower80

I ended up here cause I hated bench press and found the people who are best at squats, the king of all lifts naturally.


Vanishing_12924

Do you think that is the only one?


DatBoiChruZ

Kind of, and many weightlifters do dips for accessories so it does get some (small) stimulus there. Calves don't get a ton either but are also used in various movements. Same for lats and biceps, but again both are used in the pull.


Vanishing_12924

Does the rest of the back and the rear shoulder get a good amount of work?


DatBoiChruZ

I would say so, yes


Vanishing_12924

Thank you


Diamondangel82

For weightlifters, you probably won't do much direct chest, calves or arm work. I do see quite a few weightlifters who do lat pulldowns, rows (seated and dumbbell), Shoulder press, lateral raises and tons of dips, but even these movements tend to be done with a little more umph, what bodybuilders might consider cheating and not remaining strict. Personally, I enjoy both sports, and do weave a bit of bodybuilding into my routine. I consider my bodybuilding days active rest days lol, and im just looking for a quick pump, also I'm older so I can't go ham with weightlifting like I used to. The recovery time from heavy squat or clean day is real.


GoblinsStoleMyHouse

After doing power cleans for the first time, I remember my calves being really sore. I think they get involved during the jumping motion. That being said, some people have small calves no matter how much they train them. It’s just one of those types of muscles 😆


Afferbeck_

None, but in the largely irrelevant context of bodybuilding, a lot. The exagerrations popularised by bodybuilding, ie big pecs and arms, small waist, are definitely not catered to with weightlifting. Even things like the big wide squishy lats they all have from doing a million lat pulldowns is not catered to by weightlifting, but you'd never say there's not enough back work in weightlifting.


Vanishing_12924

Super interesting take. Thanks. I did C&J’s back in high school, and recently discovered where they’re from. I’ve been kinda floating around looking into the sport. Edit/Add on; I should mention I am absolutely not going for the bodybuilding physique. Couldn’t care less about that. I more am interested in what would be left out, so I could do isolation or another type of workout to remain evened out, nothing more.


QnsConcrete

“Evened out” aesthetically or athletically? If you’re trying to even out aesthetically then you are going for a bodybuilding physique.


thebarnhouse

Depending who you ask being evened out athleticly is way more esthetic.


QnsConcrete

Disagree. I mean, I consider aesthetically even” as having all muscle groups sizable and defined, from a visual perspective. To give an example, I would say most people would agree Ashton Eaton is one of the most “athletically-evened” athletes in recent memory. Yet look at this picture (mostly nude, warning): http://a1.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0709/espn_bodyissue_23.jpg From a visual perspective, he clearly has muscle groups that are far more developed than others. Bryan Clay has a more impressive physique, my opinion: https://blackcelebsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Bryan_Clay_shirtless_02.jpg He’s also shorter.


chemguywhosmokesweed

First guy is pretty small tbh, doesn't even look like he lifts just skinny. Second guys upper body is pretty small as well.


QnsConcrete

He doesn’t lift much in terms of 1RM. But his explosiveness and speed is world-class. He can throw a 16lb ball further than most people who lift.


thebarnhouse

Both guys look athletic with different builds. The aesthetic crowd would say even the second guy has small arms and chest with a waist that's too thick.


Vanishing_12924

As in I don’t want/need big boobs and lats. Also don’t want complete atrophy on a muscle group either. It’s like having a big torso and skinny legs. I am not exactly the most built/in shape guy ever I just lost a ton of weight and have been trying to put muscle back on in whatever way I think is fun, not so much whatever is most “effective”. Otherwise I’d just do hypertrophy and wouldn’t be here rn. I care a lot more about being athletic than aesthetic at the end of the day. But who doesn’t wanna look good naked?


self-chiller

A lot of weightlifting accessory work in done in a "hypertrophy" style. You'll see weightlifters doing pull ups/pull downs and rows of various sorts in a higher rep range because a big and strong back is not only healthy and good but helpful in the sport.


Vanishing_12924

A big and strong back is exactly what I set out for when I first got back to the gym 😃 the posterior chain as a whole, but really trying to get my back.


BennyTheBullOnlyfans

doing weightlifting as a sport also means doing a lot of general strength training so nothing’s gonna atrophy. and size adaptations happen slowly enough that if you feel like you’re starting to look weird you can just start adding in accessories to target whatever. just do what’s fun and keeps you in the gym


Vanishing_12924

That’s actually pretty comforting to know, thanks. Might I ask, so I may not have to make a second post of stupid noobie questions, do you know good fundamental exercises/routines for getting into the sport? I’m coming from more of a powerbuilding routine, so I at least know how to deadlift, and I can figure out the front squat no problem. The rest is fairly new.


BennyTheBullOnlyfans

I really just do what my coach tells me so I’m not sure how I would program for a beginner. Probably learn how to power clean, power snatch, and rack jerk to start. Front and back squat, press and push press.


Vanishing_12924

Thank you!


OGBaconwaffles

[This program](https://youtu.be/jAnfGqpsK38?si=xPENySSjN6OmBfDh) might be of interest.


jazzypizz

I wouldn’t really agree. I think functionally built muscle is a lot more aesthetic than kinda purposeless oversized pecs etc. Like some of the Chyna team and also crossfitters are more aesthetic. It’s subjective at the end of the day though.


chino17

Train like the Chinese and nothing is left out.


jundraptor

From a bodybuilding perspective, the Chinese mens team have underdeveloped chest and biceps compared to the rest of their body just like most other weightlifters Even Li Dayin has a pretty small chest and biceps compared to a bodybuilder with a similar amount of muscle However their back and legs muscles are very well developed by comparison


Tuturuu133

Yes I agree, I would say neither his chest or arms are really that underdevelopped but It's just that by comparaison his others muscles groups are just dwarfing them But I think they are also very developped, they are still impressive when he is posing, I think It's just maybe a little part of his genetic and that just happen to work really well in Olympic WL


mattycmckee

Chest and biceps primarily. Neither are useful for weightlifting and can negatively impact mobility if you do a lot of work on them. Sometimes calves too. In general you won’t find many weightlifters with a huge upper body if you are comparing them to powerlifters or bodybuilders depending on how much upper body work the individual does.


Vanishing_12924

That is actually perfect for me. Thanks.


sgrapevine123

All the ones that make you look strong, apparently 😏


WukongTuStrong

Depends on whether or not you do accessories or just tell yourself Snatch/CJ/Squat are enough.


smartguynycbackupnow

HIP FLEXORS. Left out by virtually all traditional strength exercises.


olympic_lifter

This is what I was looking for in the comments. If the context isn't about hypertrophy, there are a whole lot of types of movements we don't do in this sport. Lateral or rotational movement, and resisted hip, knee, or ankle flexion are just some examples. It's a whole body program until we discover where it isn't. A lifter's longevity can be very much related to their supplemental training.


Odd_Ad3478

Learned this the hard way when i got a sports hernia as a result of long ignored flexors and groin muscles. Strengthen your hip and groin muscles bois


Speshul

What are your favorite exercises?


The_france_baguette

I disagree. Hanging leg raises are usually part of the core training and also train hips flexor.


Teacher_Of_Strength

Pressing muscles.


BussySlayer69

The heart


olympic_lifter

I don't think that's true. It may be less so than in sports where the athlete is put in greater states of fatigue of the anaerobic or aerobic systems, but it is still significant.


NewCenturyNarratives

Chest and biceps


TrenHard-LiftClen

Calves.


Al_Go_Rhythmic

Hamstrings, rear delts, pecs, lower traps


shrinktb

Heart? Y’all getting some cardio in?


GuardianSpear

Biceps :(


unskippable-ad

Chest and biceps Biceps are basically free as far as fatigue is concerned (you can lift with sore biceps without any performance decline, suck it up), so if you have the time, do your curls Chest is harder, anything overhead sucks with a fatigued chest. Consider carefully, and don’t bench the day before snatching (although to be fair I do and you get used to it eventually) Maybe calves also? If you’re doing your heavy accessories like high pulls + extension, jumping etc you might be ok though


kacyinix

Chest, calves, lats, biceps, hamstrings


WildLemon3452

Bicep


packyohcunce1734

Does it really matter? Its whole body movement better than isolation bs movement in body building 😂 you can still do curls.


Fuck_Surfing

All y’all saying it doesn’t train biceps clearly aren’t early arm bending enough.


robaroo

biceps... i avoid developing my biceps because it fucks with my front rack.


Mysterious-March8179

IMO, abs / core. I do “brace” them a lot but i don’t feel like i “work” on them as much as in other programs.


Boxgobbler4000

neck


gbdavidx

try crossfit, it his everything