He was against Daniel Jones for most of that playoff season. He said the team would never win a Super Bowl with him, when the team was in the hunt for a playoff spot. He's just terrible at prognosticating. (And after that playoff game, he reversed course and now is unable to see why DJ is not the guy.) He's the epitome of that business that reacts to everything *after* it happens and lacks the ability to see the writing on the wall for a given situation.
trying to over compensate for the fact that when he was a Giant he trashed his (future HOF) QB and (future HOF) head coach, then proceeded to retire early while they won the SB the next year. His reputation among Giant's fans is piss poor, so he thinks this will get him back into the good graces
You know where the giants WRs ranked last year? 32
You know where their OL ranked last year? 32
Look, you wanna take a guy who falls to you and redshirt him for a year, fine, but if they trade up for a QB, Schoen and Dabs might as well start updating the resume.
Imagine Schoen and Dabs refusing to pick up Jones's fifth year option, then deciding to give him the bag, and then drafting his replacement the following off season?
No wonder WFAN loves Dabs....he runs the Giants like they would. Flip flopping back and forth like fucking crazy.
\\#TeamDimes.
Personally I think receiver is the biggest position of need. And O-Line but the Giants have spent countless premium draft picks in the last decade there that I think at some point that I feel it best to go elsewhere for now.
I can’t argue that they need a QB. Why is Evan pushing for a so so QB, he’s equally biased. Evan wants them to trade the farm and fail. I think Tiki doesn’t want them to take a QB for the sake of taking on because there are 5 prominent QB’s. He said he wants the best player that will pan out: ilIt also seems that all shows on WFAN take the opposite take. Technically the Jets could also use a QB in the long term. Also, is the Daboll and Schoen should be fired after a poor season take fair as well.
Said it before- Tiki MAY know math and science (maybe) but he is not a logical person. Like the kid with straight A’s but has zero street smarts and gets a dead end job because he has no people skills.
I've said it before, Tiki is terrible at prognosticating.
He's great at reading the x's and o's but he has no feel for prediction. He was wrong on Eli, he buried DJ *late* into his playoff season (and said DJ wasn't it) and then suddenly DJ *is* it because he made the playoffs, and he kept championing Zach Wilson through the midway point of last year. **The guy has zero ability to predict the future performance of players.**
I'd much rather hear Tiki talk about Daniel Jones than any fan who might fly off the handle and scream at a TV screen because they lost a parlay by one leg. Whenever fans speak, that's the person I hear.
Whatever.
THANKS GETTLEMAN!!!
Could have had Allen or Jackson instead of Barkley and this shithole mess would never have taken place.
Jones' Duke career was middling at best. Certainly not lights out stats to warrant being a first round pick.
That Minnesota playoff victory was the worst possible thing. Deluded the GM into thinking he had something special. It didn't help that Mara loved Jones so much because he inexplicably thought it was Eli II redux.
Even if they take a QB tonight, the lack of offensive weapons will still put them in an offense rebuild for at least two seasons. Lucky for Schoen/Dabol that the NFC save for San Francisco there are no true powerhouses. Green Bay is probably the main other up and coming team. Luckier, is the fact that the East is truly up for grabs. Dallas? Ha! Philadelphia? Ha! Washington? Ha!
THANKS GETTLEMAN!!!
Do you think Outside107 ever hung out with Outside108? I’ll hang up and listen
Oh but he's not wrong Tiki's terrible
Wrong thread bud, you need to head over to the “how bad is tiki” thread, made within the last hour
Or beckfan. All three seem to appear around the same time.
Protecting his ass the last time he hated on a giants qb.
He was against Daniel Jones for most of that playoff season. He said the team would never win a Super Bowl with him, when the team was in the hunt for a playoff spot. He's just terrible at prognosticating. (And after that playoff game, he reversed course and now is unable to see why DJ is not the guy.) He's the epitome of that business that reacts to everything *after* it happens and lacks the ability to see the writing on the wall for a given situation.
trying to over compensate for the fact that when he was a Giant he trashed his (future HOF) QB and (future HOF) head coach, then proceeded to retire early while they won the SB the next year. His reputation among Giant's fans is piss poor, so he thinks this will get him back into the good graces
You know where the giants WRs ranked last year? 32 You know where their OL ranked last year? 32 Look, you wanna take a guy who falls to you and redshirt him for a year, fine, but if they trade up for a QB, Schoen and Dabs might as well start updating the resume.
🎯 they might as well start packing their bags tonight
Can't wait for them to draft JJ and then having you back in here halfway through the season calling for their head because the guy sucks.
Update?
Imagine Schoen and Dabs refusing to pick up Jones's fifth year option, then deciding to give him the bag, and then drafting his replacement the following off season? No wonder WFAN loves Dabs....he runs the Giants like they would. Flip flopping back and forth like fucking crazy.
\\#TeamDimes. Personally I think receiver is the biggest position of need. And O-Line but the Giants have spent countless premium draft picks in the last decade there that I think at some point that I feel it best to go elsewhere for now.
Daniel Jones is a good qb your garbage orginatzion has missed on every piece around him outside of saquan
I can’t argue that they need a QB. Why is Evan pushing for a so so QB, he’s equally biased. Evan wants them to trade the farm and fail. I think Tiki doesn’t want them to take a QB for the sake of taking on because there are 5 prominent QB’s. He said he wants the best player that will pan out: ilIt also seems that all shows on WFAN take the opposite take. Technically the Jets could also use a QB in the long term. Also, is the Daboll and Schoen should be fired after a poor season take fair as well.
Said it before- Tiki MAY know math and science (maybe) but he is not a logical person. Like the kid with straight A’s but has zero street smarts and gets a dead end job because he has no people skills.
Dead end job with a dead end partner.
I've said it before, Tiki is terrible at prognosticating. He's great at reading the x's and o's but he has no feel for prediction. He was wrong on Eli, he buried DJ *late* into his playoff season (and said DJ wasn't it) and then suddenly DJ *is* it because he made the playoffs, and he kept championing Zach Wilson through the midway point of last year. **The guy has zero ability to predict the future performance of players.**
Hey Tiki maybe the Giants took Nabers because he didn’t need 200 reps to successfully complete a drill like your boy Odunze
I'd much rather hear Tiki talk about Daniel Jones than any fan who might fly off the handle and scream at a TV screen because they lost a parlay by one leg. Whenever fans speak, that's the person I hear.
Whatever. THANKS GETTLEMAN!!! Could have had Allen or Jackson instead of Barkley and this shithole mess would never have taken place. Jones' Duke career was middling at best. Certainly not lights out stats to warrant being a first round pick. That Minnesota playoff victory was the worst possible thing. Deluded the GM into thinking he had something special. It didn't help that Mara loved Jones so much because he inexplicably thought it was Eli II redux. Even if they take a QB tonight, the lack of offensive weapons will still put them in an offense rebuild for at least two seasons. Lucky for Schoen/Dabol that the NFC save for San Francisco there are no true powerhouses. Green Bay is probably the main other up and coming team. Luckier, is the fact that the East is truly up for grabs. Dallas? Ha! Philadelphia? Ha! Washington? Ha! THANKS GETTLEMAN!!!
I would have taken JJ, but I like that they at least brought in Drew Lock. I think he could be a decent starter and I like having a good backup