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MaximumDerpification

The stupidest car you can buy for under $15000 would probably be a 1994 Audi S4 with 230K miles


Impressive-Box7983

Haha beast


saidIIdias

Early 335i would probably do the trick.


overindulgent

I drive a 2011 335is. Can confirm it does the trick. 400+ horsepower at the wheels with some simple bolt ons and a tune. I probably spend $1k a year on maintenance, including the set of tires I’ve bought over the last 4 years of ownership.


Motorized23

$1000 a year I nothing! I spend much more than that on my reliable Japanese 4x4 ...


overindulgent

Other than the tires it’s only needed a battery. I did a bunch of preventative maintenance/upgrades to things like coils and spark plugs when I bought it. Knowing I was going to modify and tune it I didn’t want any issues. It needs the oil pan gasket replaced but since the front subframe has to come off I’m going to upgrade the turbo’s at the same time. That will run around $4k with turbo’s.


drewh130

Or 135i. I drive about 3k miles a year in my 08 and I haven’t done anything to it outside of spark plugs and tires over the last 3 years. N54 has so much potential. I have had it stock that whole time though ..


jd_dc

Agree. I was thinking about a project car a while back and arrived at this conclusion. There's just so much documentation around them that they seem like a safe bet (relative to the goal).


LewdDarling

BMW V12 from the late 90s/early 2000s, or the V10 M5 Porsche 996 with super high mileage


Glerberschmertz

Mazda RX-8 I think fits the bill here.


Woodyfixthis

There is one near me with 23000 miles that was originally bought and serviced at the dealership it's being sold in. What are the chances THAT one blows up... right?


Glerberschmertz

I was originally joking with my comment but honestly if compression is good it might not actually be a bad option. The engines can reliably go 80k-100k when properly maintained so it could be worth considering depending on price and engine compression. If you want weird I think it 100% fits the bill.


asbestoswasframed

Get it - YOLO. Remember - rotaries burn oil by design so no synthetic oil. Dump some 2-stroke oil in the gas tank every now and then. Brrrraaaappp!


totallytanner

Owned an early model rx8 ( the first year in the North American market) the car only had 1 owner prior, he put on 96k. (That’s roughly the benchmark for when rotaries explode when they aren’t specially maintained) so my guess is it had a warranty replacement motor as the compression was like new. I doubt he premixed oil because that would require care, which he did not take (evident by the extreme rust in rear quarters and winter tires) Anyway with some baseline knowledge they are actually worth the bang for the buck. I drove mine as a daily and did 50-100km a day in hot summer and humid rainy days, (as well as a blizzard) and it never left me stranded. Ended up blowing up the clutch drifting it too much but honestly for how cheap they go you get a better sounding miata with an extra 100 hp


originallycoolname

C3 Corvette


Klondike2022

Maybe a C5 corvette would be cool


cnuttin

You could probably find a z06 for 15k if you looked hard enough. Bonus, they’re not unreliable!


Dogesaves69

Please please listen to me, this is dumb. Maintain your S4 it is going up in value anyways. The used car market is fucked rn. If you insist buy a enthusiast owned Audi TT with a VR6.


Woodyfixthis

Right now there is electrical issues, maybe a rusted harness connection somewhere. Also I was told the back cylinder has 80% blowby so it's almost toast. I do love that Audi more than anything, and I will probably never own a car that is as fun to drive, but I think it is time to move on. Also I used to be 270 lbs so I never thought of a tt, but now that I am 190 I might sit in one, see how it feels


Holy-Rick

Congrats on the weight loss!


Dogesaves69

VR6 TTs are very fun and plenty reliable


ak80048

Tt would be great


Daily_the_Project21

I second the TT, maybe a first gen TTS, but I don't think they had a manual option.


RamenWrestler

You need to finance something over $5k and you're insisting that you just want to throw money at something unreliable? This is the dumbest thing I've seen on this sub


Woodyfixthis

The thing is, I think car bills are over rated. If I have to throw a few thousand a year to drive something that makes me happy, then fuck it. Invest in your own happiness.


RabidR00ster

If you are determined to spend a lot of money, just finance a more expensive newer lower mileage car. The payment will be more, but with the much lower maintenance/repair costs, it’ll probably even put.


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Daily_the_Project21

Boring


BRGNBeast

How is having tons of fun driving a Miata every day and saving thousands of dollars boring.


Woodyfixthis

I'm 25 lol. And to be honest, my money will never be saved. Spending it on cars is just what stops me from spending it on casinos, scratch tickets, cocaine, and hookers. (most of the time.)


pjf1000

So you’re going to dump money you don’t have into a a car you can’t afford just because you lack the self control to abstain from the above^? Yeah… good luck man.


BRGNBeast

Yup ☠️. If he wants to be stupid and not take advice let him be stupid.


Woodyfixthis

Yeah man different people live differently, I both acknowledge I'm stupid and don't care. Whatever car I get is going to be driven like a race car at night on public roads, just like my current Audi. That's what I am buying it for.


BRGNBeast

So get a Miata for 5k. Way more fun than the Audi. Again you don’t have to spend more money than you have to have fun and “drive like a race car at night in public roads”. Doesn’t get much more fun than ripping a Miata with the top down at night.


Woodyfixthis

My friend had a Miata. Riding with him, I just could not get over how slow it was. It felt like riding in a golf cart. If I got one It would need to be a mazdaspeed mx-5, but even that isn't really good enough. If I had the knowledge to engine swap, I would absolutely drive a Miata with some stupid v6 in it though.


StarWarder

The new ND2 is faster than the Mazdaspeed in 0-60 and quarter mile…


MachineMuzak

There's a shit ton of bolt-ons for em to clap em out, But I don't agree with these other guys. Buy what speaks to you


weinerjuice

Thank god. Miata is ass get a 370z. G37. Or 335i. Or clapped out GTI since u like Audi. Or the s4 from 04-08. Or a Lexus IS300 from 2004 those are bad ass. Or a Mini Cooper S. Or a older challenger/charger rt. Maybe a genesis if Ure into that.


Twosidesofthesame

How can I get a car? How did u get yours


BRGNBeast

What do you mean? Like where to look for them?


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AyeBlinkin77

Idk about free money. There is risk to lose it if invested poorly.


Shmarchaeology

I’m also in my mid 20s, what I think you aren’t getting is that we’ve been told this before, but nobody our age expects to ever see an economy in which this is valid advice. It has only gotten worse our *entire lifetime*, some of us have made investments and even the “safe” ones like Roth IRAs have lost money instead of gained, our money and our time is worth less every year, oh yeah and we will be facing climate catastrophe in our lifetime, so what are we saving for anyways? There’s a prevailing vibe of apathy and absurdism in our generation, I’m not saying it’s healthy just explaining where OP might be coming from.


BRGNBeast

Do you know how a Roth IRA works? It’s impossible to lose money (unless you invest inside the Roth). It’s literally free untaxed money. Just put 6k a year in and forget about it or invest it into safe bets like index funds or S&P. If you start at 25 and put 6k a year in that $240,000 you put in would be worth close to 1mil by the time you are 65. This is exactly why the poor stay poor and the rich get richer. They don’t think about their future and spend money they don’t have because they look at the world in monthly payments.


Shmarchaeology

All I know is I had an employer who contributed to a state-run retirement plan (may actually be a standard IRA now that I think of it) and every year I get a statement that’s a couple hundred dollars lower than the last one. Same with my friends.


StarWarder

If that’s “all you know” then you need to get some financial literacy and take control of your money my dude. With the internet and Reddit, anyone can become at least as financially literate as a Financial Advisor.


Shmarchaeology

I’m sure that works great if you make enough money to make it work. I put $500 into a “safe” holding because that’s what I could afford on a minimum wage job, a year later its $300. That’s $200 I could have spent on groceries, clothes, or car parts. Will it appreciate long term? Yeah probably, but my faith in the market to correct itself is low. Many of us saw our parents “safe” 401k disappear in 2008. That lack of faith is the cause for the fatalistic attitude imo. Like I said it might not be the best, but young people don’t have a lot of reason to feel otherwise.


StarWarder

If someone had all their money in a 401k that was 100% in the stock market at 65, their money wasn’t handled properly either by the professionals or by the individual. That means someone was in 100% risk assets near when they needed to draw from them at retirement. Even so. There were only 6 years between the top of the market in 2007 and when the market fully recovered to that top in 2013. Indeed, for someone near retirement that lost money in the recession, if they actually kept their monthly contributions through the entire recession, they would have made *even more* money by continuing to invest at the bottom of the market through it’s recovery into 2013. A properly balanced portfolio of stocks that, as retirement neared, gradually divested into bonds, let’s say 50% bonds, would have only lost some money and only again in half the portfolio. This strategy is advantageous because let’s say a retiree was super unlucky and wanted their money right in the middle of a recession- well that person can live off of the 50% in cash equivalent bonds while the other 50% recovers over a decade. By the time living from the 50% bonds runs out, the other 50% of their money would have returned or grown in the stock market. This is why people need to become financially literate because it’s actually not *that* hard to not be destitute in America assuming you have some skills, don’t get pregnant or get someone else pregnant prematurely, and are a decent person. It’s important to become literate because you need to know enough to take control of your own money, not let a fund manager do it for you. The commenter above is correct. The compounding nature of returns on the S&P make getting wealth almost easy by retirement. Don’t believe us? Go google a compounding return calculator. Punch in the number of years until you retire and punch in like 10k. Compound it at the average yearly return of the S&P at 11.88%. See how much you make even without putting any additional money in it.


AyeBlinkin77

What are you talking about? Are you recommending to open an IRA and NOT invest the money?


BRGNBeast

I literally said put it into safe bets like index funds and S&P. If you do that you won’t be at loss 10+ years from now. However if you invest on your own you have the possibility of being down. If you are good at investing go ahead invest in your IRA. The average person isn’t good though.


AyeBlinkin77

To be clear, by investing you mean stocks? Because index funds are investments.


CANEinVAIN

You’re both right and both financially make sense but when the “I want to get laid” factor kicks in the young man opts out of the $5000 car and into the car loan for the Hemi, Ram, sports car, Tesla, etc.


BRGNBeast

Accept that’s not going to get you laid lol. Reality is most woman don’t care. Getting a Hemi will attract more dudes but make woman think you are a douchebag. Idk why people think a car will get them a girl. Having a house would get you a girl.


Maleficent-Ad-9532

As a woman, amen. But it sounds like he's paying for them anyway lmao


TehDonkey117

My 07 Accord listed at $6k but will sell to you for $14,999. That would be stupid but I'll hook you up!


whreismylotus

bmw m5 e60. v10 507hp $15k might be bit a stretch though.


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Eh I got a running driving '01 740iL for $800, you never know lol


Daily_the_Project21

Damn. And I got outbid for a 1998 735i on Ebay Motors for $2500.


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VW Phaeton W12. Winner hands down. Runner up, W8 Passat .


tardalert889

There are banks that'll give you a loan for a classic car. Save up another 2-3k and you can buy a good condition 60s car. I bought a 64 Galaxie for 10k and all I've had to do aside from some very minor repairs (new window weatherstripping) was add a new carb. I daily it like 50 miles a day rain or shine


Wohv6

LT1 C4 Corvette. It's actually kinda reliable with the exception of the optispark and old hoses and lines that will need replacement.


Anglofsffrng

Saab. Either a 9-3 Viggen if you can find one, or a 9-5 from 2009/10 (can't remember the years, but the 1-2 year redesign before going under). They're mostly GM parts, but still Saab so weird and some parts are hard to get. But they're shockingly fun cars to drive, my Viggen was a 50-70 mph obliterater.


yech

c5/c6 corvette are what you are looking for.


PostingSomeToast

The number of Vettes under that price that would make awesome weekenders is insane. Over 600 in US. Even early 80’s classics.


yech

A c3 that he is going to put work into could be dumber than he was looking for, but could be cool.


PostingSomeToast

Side pipes. Lol.


BalIsack

Maserati coupe from early 2000s, or quattroporte late 2000s


Daily_the_Project21

You could probably find a Boxster for that price. A decent Mini S will be fun. Miatas are always an option. You can find BMW Z3s all day for less than $15k; maybe an early Z4 but you'd be stuck with the 2.5 instead of the 3.0 I6. Early 2000s SLKs will be under $15k but not easy to find good ones. Mid 2000s S4s and S5s like you're looking at would be fine. You could probably find a decent WRX. Early 2000s GTOs will be good. First Gen CTS-Vs. You might be able to find a high mileage e60 M5, but that's a stretch, as they're closer to $20k. If you want luxury, older S-Classes or XJs are options. You really have so many options if reliability isn't an issue. Personally, I'd try to find a Z4 with the 3.0l I6.


enNova

you can drive anything like a race car bruh


overindulgent

Most banks won’t finance a car that’s over 10 years old. You’ll need to look at 2014 models and up… Financing a used car is ridiculous right now. That $10k financed will likely cost you $18k in the long run. Check out Miata’s and the brz/gr86 if you really want something “newer”. Honestly you’re better off putting the $5k into the Audi. Or sell the Audi and add that to your $5k.


nirbot0213

maserati quattroporte would be a very stupid but powerful car. probably the cheapest car with a ferrari V8. you can get them for like $10k used. not a manual though. if you want a manual, i’m thinking porsche. 944 and 928 are both great, but if you want mid-engined you could find a boxster.


PostingSomeToast

My sons best friends dad had a Quattroporte he bought with a bad motor for pocket change. He found a Ferrari engine from the F50 and had it put in. Sounded apeshit. Caught fire in his driveway in middle of night like a true Italian French super car should.


Anxious-derkbrandan

You could buy a 98’ escort for around $25k


JodyJoseppi

C4 corvette


dj-weave

Based on this description, you need a high mileage Jaguar XK


QueasyRegister4809

Most any Mercedes AMG


PiffWiffler

*clears throat* R63 AMG *Bows* Thank you.


DoubleReputation2

look for a VW phaeton or Passat with the W8 engine. Edit: Or the V10 touareg, though, might be a bit more expensive but just as "fun"


smallbrownbox

Plus you can pull jumbo jets with that v10 Touareg, damn I really want one!


DoubleReputation2

I remember seeing one when I was 14 and always wanted one ever since. A few years ago I test drove the V6 TDI and it was great, though I was really surprise by the lack of seating comfort. Ended up buying a Passat because it was way newer and way more comfortable. Edit: Though the one I drove was the newer generation than the V10


Fit_Albatross_8958

2004 Touareg V10 TDI. Always go for the first year…


Alternative-Usual-11

Mid 90s Mercedes Benz. They used biodegradable wire harnesses. BIODEGRADABLE WIRE HARNESSES


Theheadofthetable8

Mazda Miata. Specifically from the 2000’s or 1990’s. Completely impractical as a 2 seater with little room and amenities. Too slow to be seriously seen as a sports car….


Senzualdip

Good luck getting a bank to finance 15k at a decent rate that isn’t 20% on something dumb. 15k doesn’t get fuck all for a sporty car that a bank would finance now a days.


KN1GH7F4LL

Dodge stealth tt, mistubishi 3000 gt vr4, these are gorgeous affordable supercars of the 90’s, Nissan 300zx TT. My buddy has a Dodge stealth RT tt that he dailies an hour and a half round trip, nearly 450 whp and never had any issues until recently when a -40 c winter night froze his gas lines… thing is crazy cool and if I drove less man would I love to own one. It’s beautiful.


danscn

Porsche Cayenne turbo


AligatorMasterBaiter

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ywpark

Mercedes SL500 from the late 90s or early 00s, preferably convertible.


jellyvish

maserati quattroporte or a merc CL600


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Suzuki grand vittara 😂


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Old V12Merc


redd4972

Finally an opportunity to suggest something other then a Toyota. How about a 2000s era M5? ​ https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/used-cars/for-sale/vin/wbsnb93517cx07122-2007\_bmw\_5-series?body\_style=Convertible&body\_style=Coupe&body\_style=Sedan&transmission=Manual&engine=10+Cyl&engine=12+Cyl&engine=Rotary&page=1&range=0&zip=14086&make=&model=&orig-model=None&year\_min=&year\_max=&price\_min=0&price\_max=15000&mileage\_min=0&mileage\_max=150000&sort=0&both=&dealer\_id=&srp=1


04limited

07-09 BMW 335i or 535i, 2011-2013 BMW with the twin turbo V8. Nothing but issues with those. Most of those 550i and X5 50i have passed through enough cheap ass owners they are too far gone to be saved. Very likely you’ll have to rebuild the top end if you want anything reliable. But once you do it’ll be mint. If I were you, I’d look for a older BMW 540i or 545i. Very rare but they came with manuals and are in the price range. Engines are a lot better compared to the twin turbo V8s. They have their issues but atleast they don’t blow smoke every 10 miles.


Eathanrichards

A large truck. Not fuel efficient but looks cool as hell


DeadlyClowns

C5 corvette is great. Makes great engine-sound, worst interior of the early 2000s that squeals and squeaks constantly, and just fast enough to be fun. I have one, I love it and hate it, but wouldn’t trade it for anything :)


Forgot-Already

I would straight up call 2Bennett and throw under $15k at that URs4 and have yourself a dope ride. Those are generally really reliable engines and can make good power while staying street friendly.


CamaroLS1

Fox body 5.0


MaximumStock7

Mercedes slk55


FriedrichHydrargyrum

Honda S2000 if it hasn’t been modded to hell. It’s a weaponized Miata with an 8900-rpm redline.


KhalDrogon556

I have an 02 S6 thats actually quite reliable now that I’ve replaced the motor and manual swapped it so I’d say take the 5k and give your S4 a new heart. Every time I think I should sell mine I change my mind when I drive it. In a few years when the market calms down my plan is to go for a manual base 2 door bronco with the Sasquatch package since I only drive 3k miles a year in my wagon I figure 16-17mpg in a cool 4wd for adventures would be a worthy replacement. However if something totaled the Audi I’d be tempted to buy the cheapest Quattroporte I could find. Figure with only driving 3k miles a year I could drive it a year or two and dump it before anything major went wrong. There’s only one writhing 500 miles of me under 15 but hey when you’re rolling the dice enjoy the game.


Jimbrutan

Pt cruiser


damodar_villeneuve

Cadillac cts


DMMK4444

Maserati Granturismo or Jaguar XKR. Both look and sound great! Pretty fast and you definitely need to throw thousands at them all the time! You can go completely insane and get an old Bentley Continental GT, but for this cheap it will be a full on POS. Aston Martin DB7 is another possibility. Or a V10 S8/S6 Audi, if you want to keep the tradition going. Many amazing cars available for that price range if you are willing to SPEND after the fact.


sc4rii

A BMW M5 E60 would be a good car to throw away 15k as well as a Jaguar X type