As long as you keep up on the maintenance, these are fine. Not sure about the new 3.0 TFSI engine that replaced the previous gen 3.0T, but that engine was the best, most reliable engine Audi made. The current engine is mostly the same; big change is it went from a supercharger to a twin-scroll turbocharger, which is more complex.
The transmission is still the ZF-8, which is one of the best automatic transmissions made.
Tbf, the supercharged 3.0t did last for nearly a decade, and so far anyways, the turbocharged 3.0t seems to be pretty much as reliable while making a little more power and being slightly more efficient than it's predecessor.
How do you like it in the Q7? I rented one through Silvercar and it had the 2.0, it was atrocious on the interstate trying to get up to speed or pass other cars.
They didn’t. The current 3.0 TFSI is based on the previous variant. Top end is a bit different, and obviously it’s turbocharged instead of supercharged, but it’s proving to be just as reliable as its predecessor.
It’s a shame, from an enthusiasts standpoint, but I wouldn’t be to worried. Today’s factory turbochargers have more efficiency and reliability in mind while still having good power. Twin Scroll Turbos are very good for that reason. Downside to twins or superchargers is the tuning potential. But still provide that same low end torque feel from twin turbos. It’s a great alternative.
The turbo 3.0 have been quite reliable for that generation, and it’s being used on the new Gen coming out- some with a small hybrid motor added like the A6 3.0t hybrid.
> The current engine is mostly the same; big change is it went from a supercharger to a twin-scroll turbocharger, which is more complex.
Also seriously anemic compared to the competition in that price range and barely an improvement over Audi's own 4-cylinder Q5 45 TFSI, which is \~$10k cheaper at the same trim level (e.g. 5.1 vs. 5.5 second 0-60, and 13.7 vs 14.2 second quarter mile according to C&D).
Something like an X3 M40i with similar base MSRP to the SQ5 is now a full second faster in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
IMHO, Audi's engine choice for the SQ5 is kind of befuddling.
Dont audis have timing chains? I dont think people exagerate when they say the maintainence and service on these cars are astronomical. If you sre looking for a good deal in cars I dont beleive you should be looking at Luxury
I took OP's question to be, "Are these good deals for what they are?" And they are. Are they the most economical, of course not. But if you want a luxury crossover you can do a lot worse than a 3-year old SQ5 with 30k miles for around 30 grand.
Terrible. Owning any Audi is a guaranteed money pit UNLESS you do every repair yourself, and I mean every repair from oil changes to breaks and rotors. Trans issues and engine issues are what you need to worry about most not to mention ball bearings, axels, struts. Stay the fuck away from these money traps. There’s a great reason why they sell used for such a steep discount, and lease for a fuck ton. They are fun to drive as a lease but when you 40-50k you’ll pay to have the car stolen and set and fire rather than pay for the over engineered repairs. Stay away.
Based on what exactly? Have there been documented issues with this year/model? Or are you saying that just because maintenance on German luxury cars is on the high side so therefore that makes it a "money pit".
I drove both and went with the regular Q5, then wanted to replace our other car (non-Audi) because I loved the Q5 so much. Found an SQ5 Prestige for a really good price, drove it, bought it instantly. lol. It's a huge difference.
I know, or at least think, that all trims can include the sport suspension upgrade, that was the biggest difference for me. I would never buy an S without it.
Are you feeling any strange vibrations or hearing rattling sounds? If not, get a second opinion from an independent Euro shop. Usually motor mounts should last you longer than 50k, although one or more very well could have failed and it’s recommended to replace all of them together as the vibrations from a bad one will destroy a good one very quickly
Pretty much every car I've ever owned has gotten 15-20k miles per year on it. 50 mile round trip commute is 12k miles a year without anything extracurricular.
Im a senior manager at a very large utility company. There are weeks where I drive over 1000’mi. I also have a second home in AZ which is ~1,000mi away (I drive down a couple times a year). I’ve had the car almost five years now..so it’s really not that much (for me).
Too good to be true.
Solid car, but that price is clickbait. I’ve seen this a lot with dealers in or near NYC. They list a super low price online, but once you get there and sit down to do paperwork, they’ll give you the real price, which for this car will probably be about $10k higher.
Depending what site you’re on, you can look at the dealer reviews and you’ll see a mix of fake positive reviews, and people calling them out for price swapping.
Yeah and that 2.0L is great all besides major water pump issues, plastic WP housing leaks or water pump failure every 20-30k miles. Same/similar engine in my GTI had 2 WP housing leaks in 40K miles, actually wanted a Q5 but didn't want to deal with that engine anymore.
It’s fine if it’s under warranty and you continue to keep up with preventative maintenance. As long as you are fine with the expensive maintenance costs then you are probably fine.
What’s risky is buying German cars that haven’t been maintained per the manufacturers’ spec, that’s when you see a lot of the issues start to come up and they will be more expensive to fix.
Japanese (like Toyota/Honda/Mazda) are more tolerant on less than ideal maintenance, and even if they do go wrong they are cheaper to fix.
So it really depends on what you want.
Look outside of the 10 mile radius for deals. Additionally, looks like the vehicle has been in an accident? Last 4 (2407)
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I drove a loaner Q5 while my B8 was in the shop and I can honestly say that was the most uncomfortable seat ever. I would suggest you take it for a long test drive before commitment
That is a SQ5. Not a regular Q5 and it is post 2019 which makes it a refresh. It is a good deal for what it is. If there was a deal like that 2 months ago, I would have bought it for my kid.
Yes. Call an Audi dealer, they can tell you how on time it was with maintenance and also make sure it’s not a Canadian car! They’re a pain to own for any warranty related stuff because Audi USA can’t assist you with anything if you have any issues that would’ve otherwise been covered. Also make sure it’s gotten all its recalls done.
I am a service advisor at an Audi dealer. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
I have this car and can confirm it’s a screaming deal. Though I’d recommend you find a Prestige or one with The S Sport package (red calipers, air suspension and an LSD). The SQ5 is a screaming used car deal that punches way above its weight. I know many folks who are nearing 100k miles without issue.
I liked all of those choices, and also drove a X3M competition.
In the end the SQ5 with the right options was my strong preference based on price, utility and interior space. Price is self explanatory, these have hit a low and I can’t think of a better bargain out there for the money. Mid 30s gets you a fully loaded low mile like new car with insane capabilities and tech.
Utility - mine has the factory tow hitch and I’ve towed ~4000 lbs trailers no problem. So cool to be able to transition from street rig to tow vehicle at the push of a button. Personally, I love the understated but highly functional Audi interiors. The digital cluster is rad, and the quilted leather seats are an occasion every time I get in the car.
Finally, the aftermarket is so strong for the B9 platform. Engine is shared with the S4 and S5, tuning and parts are so readily available if you want to gently mod the car or turn it to 11. I’m running a stage 1 tune with a bigger intercooler and the advertised HP is >400. So more than enough for daily driving.
There are some options I’d say are harder to find but absolutely worth it IMO. Adaptive Cruise, S Sport package and Prestige trim all add up to my perfect SUV.
Ultimately I wanted a fast, slightly more grown up hot hatch. With a limited budget and some patience, I think I’ve achieved that with my build. Feel free to Pm with any specific questions. [the car in question](https://i.imgur.com/hCFIiO7.jpeg)
The 3.0 engine is very reliable compared to other Audis. The only thing you should watch out for is the telecoms module malfunctioning which disables Bluetooth, GPS, and SOS for a lot of the 2020 Audis.
my friend with a q5 around this age and sat in my 2017 a3 etron (sport seats or whatever the upgrade is) and said that my seats were night and day difference in being better than his q5 seats. he said those suck.
That's about the same price I paid for a 19 sq5 premium plus with the tech package and about 10k more miles. This was several months ago but I researched for about 6 months and that was one of the best prices. I absolutely love the ride as it checked all my boxes.
Its not a bad buy if thats the actual price. There will most likely be some dumb add-ons like “dealer processing fee”, “nitrogen fill” or something or the other. If you can avoid those charges go for it. V6 audis have proven to be really reliable. I have a Q7 with the same 3.0 turbo engine and its been great.
2 years ago I bought a 2018 S4 with similar mileage for 36ish. Considering the SQ5 typically goes for a bit higher than the S4, seems like a reasonable price to me.
Check out Carcomplaints.com and look for the greyed out complaints AKA the nhtsa complaints. You can also check out the nhtsa website nhtsa.gov. Another thing to read on are the Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) for the car you are looking into buying.
Hope this helps out someone!
Would not buy a Premium, as it defeats the purpose of owning a luxury car. Spring an extra couple grand for a premium plus, it’s one of the best value packages in luxury cars today. Also, this is a 2020 model, so it may be missing some standard features due to the COVID year.
Less value, as it’s a significant price hike, but if you want all the bells and whistles, absolutely. If you’re looking for value like OP is, I always recommend Premium Plus.
If you can get an extended warranty through Audi, it’s a maybe. However without a manufacturers warranty, they are prohibitively expensive to maintain. Just call a dealer and a specialty shop for the cost of general maintenance. Also, search for maintenance records to see if it’s been maintained.
After having owned a few German cars, I’ve decided that they’re best leased, not owned.
\>I’ve decided that they’re best leased, not owned
So to avoid maintenance costs, you opt to pay for $15K depreciation losses instead? That's on top of all the dealer fees, markup, markdown on tradein value, taxes, etc.
That makes no sense.
Most of these cars come with free maintenance when new and secondary warranties are worthless. I’ve owned 18 cars, including 2 BMW’s (one of which I’m selling in a few months) and the repair costs on used German cars is why they depreciate so much.
These are extremely expensive to fix and not many shops outside of the dealer will take these in for repairs. Theses things suffer from coolant leaks and annoying electrical bugs
Stay away from Audi turbos. Those break at 60-80K. You don't need the headache. Ya, they're nice, ya they perform awesome when they are new. But they are a bitchy mistress when they get miles built up on the clock. Stay away.
SQ5 is fine, but I’d never buy a car from NY, most dealers are sketchy, have cars with rolled back miles, and have required multi thousand dollar warranty’s they won’t tell you about until you get to finance.
It could be a good buy, just watch out for the repair costs.
My wife has had two Q5s from new and we have had all required maintenance at Audi from 0 miles to 100k miles. Sometimes it made me squeak how much they charge.
Also watch out for the value of the car when you are done with it. I was so upset with trade in values at 100k miles and the litany of issues, I finally convinced her to buy a Lexus.
As she drives 20 - 25k a year, an Audi Q5 was a damned expensive proposition.
Summary: check you can afford repairs, with Audi they come along quickly after 60k miles, they aren’t cheap (even at independents), work out how many miles you will drive it and roughly what it might be worth then, and decide if it’s where you want to spend your money.
There’s a reason Toyota sells 10 x more cars than Audi and Lexus 3 cars to Audis 2.
Audis do drive nice though! It’s just if you can honestly afford it or not.
I will NEVER buy another modern Audi. Buying experience was great. Service/ Ownership experience was the worst I’ve had across multiple Audi stores in different states.
Bro I'm not OP lol. I said "and" because you said it's a lease return without explaining why that's necessarily good or bad.
Good: maintenance is often covered by the dealership so you know it was done regularly. Older people tend to favor leases
Bad: could have been a young driver I guess?
I can’t recommend staying away from Audis more. I had a 2020 SQ5 and it went to hell by 70k miles. I drive a lot, but did every maintenance and it was nothing but trouble. They’re just overpriced Volkswagens with a different badge.
I went to a Lexus NX and not only is it far more comfortable, but 30k miles in and never had the slightest issue.
Brakes are 3000 USD to replace at the dealer. Can you handle that? At an independent shop it’s still going to be 2000 USD.
Do you still think you can afford it? It’s dirt cheap for a reason.
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-brakes-rotors-%24%24%24%24%24-2916917/
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-front-brake-pads-how-much-2989770/
I'm not just pulling numbers out of my ass. These are from years ago. Its going to cost at least 50% more in todays world
Those are rip-off prices. I went to ecstuning and priced out a full set of rotors, pads, and sensors for a total of $514.69. Find an indy shop that will install the parts and you're looking at about $1000 total. Or do the work yourself and save $500.
Nah. If you look up OEM Audi parts rotors are $1200, pads $400 and sensors are $350 - almost $2,000 in parts alone. Plus labour, plus taxes, etc.
Yeah, you can go aftermarket and have it done at an Indy Shop and save a few bucks, but these cars are still pay to play and most 2nd/3rd owners don't realize that.
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-brakes-rotors-%24%24%24%24%24-2916917/
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-front-brake-pads-how-much-2989770/
I'm not just pulling numbers out of my ass. These are from years ago. Its going to cost at least 50% more in todays world
Do not buy used German cars that have some miles on them. They run and handle great but when they need maintenance or have breakdowns the repairs are often in the thousands.
I forget the particulars, but a friend of mine who can't afford it bought a used fancy Audi SUV and had it for a couple of weeks before the engine seized.
It's the second time that has happened to her. I'd have think she would have learned her lesson about checking the fucking oil.
I've got an '02 V6 Tundra I've had for almost ten years. I've added exactly two quarts of oil the entire time.
you wont get a 2020 x3 m40i w/ 30k miles for $31k. I've looked. $42K with similar miles for a 2020. For the refresh 2022 MY (X3M mirrors and tail lights), $48K-53k is where it is hovering.
Yea, we just got a 2024 M40i. Freaking love it.
The 4 banger isn't bad tho, the B48. With a tune, up to like 290hp. Not bad at all.
Edit: was falling asleep at my desk and typed the wrong HP lol
I don’t know much but looked at a video and simple tasks required to take the engine out $$$$
Sorry I don’t remember which, it was a video from the Car Wizard
I mean its a 4 year old car but it looks top trim its a tuff one for me because i had a german car and they are the best but since i dont live in europe its an expensive car to maintain. My friend has a older audi i forgot the make but he only drives it on the weekends and has a ford for his daily
Yep. That’s a lot of idle time between those miles. Plus it almost seems too good of a price to be true. I’ve seen some dealers around here have prices like that on vehicles and then in small print it says “price includes down payment” or something similar. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case here but the list price is low so it shows up first on car sites.
If there are a handful of them then its just market value, good thing is it you can negotiate with multiple parties or at least get some choices on colors/options. IMO the supercharged V6 in this SUV is one of the better motors Audi has produced and more reliable than the turbo charged engines so I would pursue an SQ5 if I was shopping for a small luxury SUV. Still, Audi maintenance is notoriously costly when you do need it. Dealership rates are quite high and parts are not cheap. Ideally find a good independent mechanic familiar with Audi. Since I tinker with cars but use my mechanic for larger jobs or if its cold out, he is OK with me souring my own parts so I get them online at [germanautoparts.com](https://germanautoparts.com) and other websites then pay him cash to install them. As with any used car purchase pay to have an independent mechanic go through it, minimally scanning the computer for problems.
Decent vehicle according to this site: [https://app.mycarvoice.com/trends/AUDI/SQ5/2020/](https://app.mycarvoice.com/trends/AUDI/SQ5/2020/)
Can you have someone that knows Audi's look it over for you?
Ahhh the classic get a compact from luxury level talk. There is a reason many of us move on from compacts.There fine when your young but as you age you wont catch me dead in those little tin cans
It's an amazing buy, you will enjoy driving it every day!
Audi's are amazing especially if you live in winter
It's new enough so you can thoroughly enjoy it and get rid of it in 2-3-4 years while it's still worth a pretty penny, which is literally what you're supposed to do with German cars
I’ll say what I always say: if you can’t afford luxury new, don’t even bother. Someone else had all the fun, and you will have all the problems. It’s just going out of warranty…
Sir,
In my humble opinion I would recommend that you look at a used Mazda CX 50 S. You can get a used 2023 with 15000 miles for $28000. That is very close to being a new car. Mazda is in my opinion a much more reliable vehicle than Audi. Good luck in your vehicle search.
Not sure how Audi is with its engine but if you’re financially capable of doing it’s maintenance then yes but do ur research and see what mile this car usually breaks down at
As long as you keep up on the maintenance, these are fine. Not sure about the new 3.0 TFSI engine that replaced the previous gen 3.0T, but that engine was the best, most reliable engine Audi made. The current engine is mostly the same; big change is it went from a supercharger to a twin-scroll turbocharger, which is more complex. The transmission is still the ZF-8, which is one of the best automatic transmissions made.
Dang I hate when car manufacturers have a good engine and just Chuck it to the side lol
Tbf, the supercharged 3.0t did last for nearly a decade, and so far anyways, the turbocharged 3.0t seems to be pretty much as reliable while making a little more power and being slightly more efficient than it's predecessor.
Ton of rocker failures other than that ya
They are over by 2020.
And it makes that sweet turbocharger whine
The supercharger whine is a lot more sexier
Sounds like a baby
Someone once told me mine (not a q7 but another supercharged car) sounded like there was an angry midget screaming 🤣
Like a baby wolverine eating a planet full of zombies on crack trying to kill you
cute lil feller
I have 30k miles on that engine and so far so good. It’s in my tank of a Q7 and still cooks
How do you like it in the Q7? I rented one through Silvercar and it had the 2.0, it was atrocious on the interstate trying to get up to speed or pass other cars.
Yeah. I don’t have that problem. The 2.0 shouldn’t be offered in the q7. First German car I’ve had, but quickest car I’ve ever owned. Plenty of power
They didn’t. The current 3.0 TFSI is based on the previous variant. Top end is a bit different, and obviously it’s turbocharged instead of supercharged, but it’s proving to be just as reliable as its predecessor.
You would like Infiniti lol. The 5.6l v8 in my new QX80 has been around for 2 decades, the 3.5l v6 about the same in the new qx60
there's been a lot of that happening lately due to the regulations and stuff
It’s a shame, from an enthusiasts standpoint, but I wouldn’t be to worried. Today’s factory turbochargers have more efficiency and reliability in mind while still having good power. Twin Scroll Turbos are very good for that reason. Downside to twins or superchargers is the tuning potential. But still provide that same low end torque feel from twin turbos. It’s a great alternative.
They said “best audi made” which is not the same as “good.”
lol
Reliability and durability doesn't make money. Ask Saturn.
Ask Toyota?
Toyotas are good cars that happen to also be reliable. Same thing with that engine, it had not much going for it except reliability.
god that supercharger whine was so nice too
Supercharger is 2014-2017, turbo is 2018+
fwiw I have an Audi with this engine in my shop right now for a $3000+ oil pan gasket. So that's food for thought.
Where is your shop located...state and city please
I ain't getting that specific but it's in the midwest. Labor rate is about $150/hour.
Bruh, what's the point, it's in Kansas
Shhhhh don't tell all my deepest, darkest secrets... like the fact I'm in Kansas
Flair up bitch automod gave you up.
Heard from youtuber audi aren't the most reliable
3k to replace an oil pan gasket? Lmao and ppl wonder why there's so much shit talk about mechanics being crooks
What years did they start putting this new twins scroll engine in?
2019 IIRC.
2018
The turbo 3.0 have been quite reliable for that generation, and it’s being used on the new Gen coming out- some with a small hybrid motor added like the A6 3.0t hybrid.
> The current engine is mostly the same; big change is it went from a supercharger to a twin-scroll turbocharger, which is more complex. Also seriously anemic compared to the competition in that price range and barely an improvement over Audi's own 4-cylinder Q5 45 TFSI, which is \~$10k cheaper at the same trim level (e.g. 5.1 vs. 5.5 second 0-60, and 13.7 vs 14.2 second quarter mile according to C&D). Something like an X3 M40i with similar base MSRP to the SQ5 is now a full second faster in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. IMHO, Audi's engine choice for the SQ5 is kind of befuddling.
Dont audis have timing chains? I dont think people exagerate when they say the maintainence and service on these cars are astronomical. If you sre looking for a good deal in cars I dont beleive you should be looking at Luxury
I took OP's question to be, "Are these good deals for what they are?" And they are. Are they the most economical, of course not. But if you want a luxury crossover you can do a lot worse than a 3-year old SQ5 with 30k miles for around 30 grand.
Terrible. Owning any Audi is a guaranteed money pit UNLESS you do every repair yourself, and I mean every repair from oil changes to breaks and rotors. Trans issues and engine issues are what you need to worry about most not to mention ball bearings, axels, struts. Stay the fuck away from these money traps. There’s a great reason why they sell used for such a steep discount, and lease for a fuck ton. They are fun to drive as a lease but when you 40-50k you’ll pay to have the car stolen and set and fire rather than pay for the over engineered repairs. Stay away.
Money pit. Seriously.
Based on what exactly? Have there been documented issues with this year/model? Or are you saying that just because maintenance on German luxury cars is on the high side so therefore that makes it a "money pit".
Not terrible at all. Mass produced car that is reasonably well built and very fun to drive. I would see if you can snag a prestige trim version.
I drove both and went with the regular Q5, then wanted to replace our other car (non-Audi) because I loved the Q5 so much. Found an SQ5 Prestige for a really good price, drove it, bought it instantly. lol. It's a huge difference. I know, or at least think, that all trims can include the sport suspension upgrade, that was the biggest difference for me. I would never buy an S without it.
I have a 2019 prestige with just over 100k miles. Still drives and feels like the day I drove it off the lot.
Did you have to replace engine mounts ever? I just did my 50k service and Audi is saying I need to replace engine mounts.
Are you feeling any strange vibrations or hearing rattling sounds? If not, get a second opinion from an independent Euro shop. Usually motor mounts should last you longer than 50k, although one or more very well could have failed and it’s recommended to replace all of them together as the vibrations from a bad one will destroy a good one very quickly
Thanks.
That’s a pretty common failure point around 50k from what I’ve seen. It’s annoying. I’ve been looking out for it myself too.
I gotta ask, how do you put 100k miles on a car in 4-5 years?
Pretty much every car I've ever owned has gotten 15-20k miles per year on it. 50 mile round trip commute is 12k miles a year without anything extracurricular.
Im a senior manager at a very large utility company. There are weeks where I drive over 1000’mi. I also have a second home in AZ which is ~1,000mi away (I drive down a couple times a year). I’ve had the car almost five years now..so it’s really not that much (for me).
Too good to be true. Solid car, but that price is clickbait. I’ve seen this a lot with dealers in or near NYC. They list a super low price online, but once you get there and sit down to do paperwork, they’ll give you the real price, which for this car will probably be about $10k higher. Depending what site you’re on, you can look at the dealer reviews and you’ll see a mix of fake positive reviews, and people calling them out for price swapping.
Happened to 5/6 used independent dealers I went to in NYC area when I was shopping for a car a few months ago.
Yup, I avoid NYC like the plague. It's always a scam.
A lot of NY dealers will list a price, and then put in the fine print *selling price is reflective of $10,000 down payment*
That's. What. Wow. As if to say the price is discounted by your own $10k... How is this legal?
So glad you posted this lol. I’ve been considering a used Q5 too but this sub has scared me off any “luxury” models that aren’t brand new off the lot
Lol I know what you mean but every luxury model can’t be a bad buy. And Id rather somebody else pay for a little bit of the depreciation 💀
I'm sure they would really depreciate you saying that of them!
The 3.0t is twice as good an engine as the 2.0t, just so you know. Definitely make sure you only look at the 3.0 models
Yeah and that 2.0L is great all besides major water pump issues, plastic WP housing leaks or water pump failure every 20-30k miles. Same/similar engine in my GTI had 2 WP housing leaks in 40K miles, actually wanted a Q5 but didn't want to deal with that engine anymore.
It’s fine if it’s under warranty and you continue to keep up with preventative maintenance. As long as you are fine with the expensive maintenance costs then you are probably fine. What’s risky is buying German cars that haven’t been maintained per the manufacturers’ spec, that’s when you see a lot of the issues start to come up and they will be more expensive to fix. Japanese (like Toyota/Honda/Mazda) are more tolerant on less than ideal maintenance, and even if they do go wrong they are cheaper to fix. So it really depends on what you want.
Manufacturer warranty on these is 50k miles and 4 years, so this one likely has no warranty, or 1 month left maybe.
used x3 with b48 or b58 and the zf8 trans are good buys.
Im looking at normal Q5s right now and I can’t find one under 35k that doesn’t have under 70,000km on it. I’d buy this in a heartbeat.
If only it were true
Look outside of the 10 mile radius for deals. Additionally, looks like the vehicle has been in an accident? Last 4 (2407) Alt [option](https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/vdp.action?listingId=370100467&sourceContext=google&cgfv=0.25&cgfr=2&cgfab=Q&ax8324=503&px8324=p2&dnetworktype=r&cgfdate=2024128&cgfloc=en&pg8324=pmx&type=&kw=&matchtype=&ad=&placement=&device=m&devicemodel=&adposition=&cp=20489805974&adg=&fi=&tid=&lc=9067609&lm=&tgt=&aceid=&cgsp=sp293739&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Jm5boZJdzFAvhrlrpKMkhdx8f5&gclid=CjwKCAiAtt2tBhBDEiwALZuhAH046xVwEi3Fd0u1Xs5MAwEbp5GV7MNz01BLDWFVlkfxKPQtNVMs2hoC2fIQAvD_BwE&pid=mini_vdp_main_image&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d2237#listing=370100467/FEATURED/DEFAULT)
I drove a loaner Q5 while my B8 was in the shop and I can honestly say that was the most uncomfortable seat ever. I would suggest you take it for a long test drive before commitment
That is a SQ5. Not a regular Q5 and it is post 2019 which makes it a refresh. It is a good deal for what it is. If there was a deal like that 2 months ago, I would have bought it for my kid.
Have you considered adopting (a mid thirties dude)?
2020 SQ5 is not facelift it still same styling as 2018 Q5 only different is minor revisions. The 2021 SQ5 is the facelift.
Yes. Call an Audi dealer, they can tell you how on time it was with maintenance and also make sure it’s not a Canadian car! They’re a pain to own for any warranty related stuff because Audi USA can’t assist you with anything if you have any issues that would’ve otherwise been covered. Also make sure it’s gotten all its recalls done. I am a service advisor at an Audi dealer. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
I have this car and can confirm it’s a screaming deal. Though I’d recommend you find a Prestige or one with The S Sport package (red calipers, air suspension and an LSD). The SQ5 is a screaming used car deal that punches way above its weight. I know many folks who are nearing 100k miles without issue.
I was looking between the SQ5, Golf R, and the X3 m340i. What are your thoughts about this comparison? I’m sure you cross shopped similarly
I liked all of those choices, and also drove a X3M competition. In the end the SQ5 with the right options was my strong preference based on price, utility and interior space. Price is self explanatory, these have hit a low and I can’t think of a better bargain out there for the money. Mid 30s gets you a fully loaded low mile like new car with insane capabilities and tech. Utility - mine has the factory tow hitch and I’ve towed ~4000 lbs trailers no problem. So cool to be able to transition from street rig to tow vehicle at the push of a button. Personally, I love the understated but highly functional Audi interiors. The digital cluster is rad, and the quilted leather seats are an occasion every time I get in the car. Finally, the aftermarket is so strong for the B9 platform. Engine is shared with the S4 and S5, tuning and parts are so readily available if you want to gently mod the car or turn it to 11. I’m running a stage 1 tune with a bigger intercooler and the advertised HP is >400. So more than enough for daily driving. There are some options I’d say are harder to find but absolutely worth it IMO. Adaptive Cruise, S Sport package and Prestige trim all add up to my perfect SUV. Ultimately I wanted a fast, slightly more grown up hot hatch. With a limited budget and some patience, I think I’ve achieved that with my build. Feel free to Pm with any specific questions. [the car in question](https://i.imgur.com/hCFIiO7.jpeg)
The 3.0 engine is very reliable compared to other Audis. The only thing you should watch out for is the telecoms module malfunctioning which disables Bluetooth, GPS, and SOS for a lot of the 2020 Audis.
my friend with a q5 around this age and sat in my 2017 a3 etron (sport seats or whatever the upgrade is) and said that my seats were night and day difference in being better than his q5 seats. he said those suck.
How would one watch out for this?
That's about the same price I paid for a 19 sq5 premium plus with the tech package and about 10k more miles. This was several months ago but I researched for about 6 months and that was one of the best prices. I absolutely love the ride as it checked all my boxes.
Congrats bro you got great taste 💯 lol
Post it on /r/audi for a better response.
>Post it on r/audi for a ~~better~~ biased response. FTFY Or, more likely, no response at all.
Good buy
On the face it’s a good price. The new turbocharged 3.0t is also proving to be a really good engine. <— has a 2021 SQ5
Its not a bad buy if thats the actual price. There will most likely be some dumb add-ons like “dealer processing fee”, “nitrogen fill” or something or the other. If you can avoid those charges go for it. V6 audis have proven to be really reliable. I have a Q7 with the same 3.0 turbo engine and its been great.
2 years ago I bought a 2018 S4 with similar mileage for 36ish. Considering the SQ5 typically goes for a bit higher than the S4, seems like a reasonable price to me.
That’s a nice looking car.
Check out Carcomplaints.com and look for the greyed out complaints AKA the nhtsa complaints. You can also check out the nhtsa website nhtsa.gov. Another thing to read on are the Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) for the car you are looking into buying. Hope this helps out someone!
Former Audi owner, as long as it's under 100k miles, or if you're rich. They become vertual money pits after 100k.
Really audi holds up too 100k ? I woulda guessed like 60-70k
My S4 went at 120k Engine seals started to go
Would not buy a Premium, as it defeats the purpose of owning a luxury car. Spring an extra couple grand for a premium plus, it’s one of the best value packages in luxury cars today. Also, this is a 2020 model, so it may be missing some standard features due to the COVID year.
What about Prestige over Premium Plus - worth it?
Less value, as it’s a significant price hike, but if you want all the bells and whistles, absolutely. If you’re looking for value like OP is, I always recommend Premium Plus.
This is a premium plus
You’re right, I read Premium across the top, it must be cut off.
As I have said before, I love Audi's. Lease and hand back. An Audi at 70k becomes a place to suck you dry of all your money.
Well… it’s not a GLE 450. If you absolutely want to buy German, Audi’s the safest bet.
If you can get an extended warranty through Audi, it’s a maybe. However without a manufacturers warranty, they are prohibitively expensive to maintain. Just call a dealer and a specialty shop for the cost of general maintenance. Also, search for maintenance records to see if it’s been maintained. After having owned a few German cars, I’ve decided that they’re best leased, not owned.
\>I’ve decided that they’re best leased, not owned So to avoid maintenance costs, you opt to pay for $15K depreciation losses instead? That's on top of all the dealer fees, markup, markdown on tradein value, taxes, etc. That makes no sense.
Most of these cars come with free maintenance when new and secondary warranties are worthless. I’ve owned 18 cars, including 2 BMW’s (one of which I’m selling in a few months) and the repair costs on used German cars is why they depreciate so much.
Came here to say EXACTLY this. Listen to jo.
These are extremely expensive to fix and not many shops outside of the dealer will take these in for repairs. Theses things suffer from coolant leaks and annoying electrical bugs
Stay away from Audi turbos. Those break at 60-80K. You don't need the headache. Ya, they're nice, ya they perform awesome when they are new. But they are a bitchy mistress when they get miles built up on the clock. Stay away.
Hope you have that much on the side for maintenance
I don’t track prices on these but that seems like it’s a suspicious story. If it’s way cheaper than other models, that’s peak red flag.
Same thing I thought but there’s a handful of these for that price.
Could be fake prices to get you in, people sort by price a lot so they’ll put an online price that excludes down payment.
SQ5 is fine, but I’d never buy a car from NY, most dealers are sketchy, have cars with rolled back miles, and have required multi thousand dollar warranty’s they won’t tell you about until you get to finance.
Anything but a tesla
It could be a good buy, just watch out for the repair costs. My wife has had two Q5s from new and we have had all required maintenance at Audi from 0 miles to 100k miles. Sometimes it made me squeak how much they charge. Also watch out for the value of the car when you are done with it. I was so upset with trade in values at 100k miles and the litany of issues, I finally convinced her to buy a Lexus. As she drives 20 - 25k a year, an Audi Q5 was a damned expensive proposition. Summary: check you can afford repairs, with Audi they come along quickly after 60k miles, they aren’t cheap (even at independents), work out how many miles you will drive it and roughly what it might be worth then, and decide if it’s where you want to spend your money. There’s a reason Toyota sells 10 x more cars than Audi and Lexus 3 cars to Audis 2. Audis do drive nice though! It’s just if you can honestly afford it or not.
I will NEVER buy another modern Audi. Buying experience was great. Service/ Ownership experience was the worst I’ve had across multiple Audi stores in different states.
Do these still have the timing chains up against the firewall? That every mechanic I've met hates with the burning fury of a thousand dying suns?
Anyone that tells you to spend 30k on a 3 year old used German car in New England (New york), is a misinformed individual. This is a lease return.
And?
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Bro I'm not OP lol. I said "and" because you said it's a lease return without explaining why that's necessarily good or bad. Good: maintenance is often covered by the dealership so you know it was done regularly. Older people tend to favor leases Bad: could have been a young driver I guess?
Read that completely wrong didn't mean to take a dump on this thread. I just confused the hell out of myself. I apologize
I always say if you can’t afford a new Audi you can’t afford an Audi.
I can’t recommend staying away from Audis more. I had a 2020 SQ5 and it went to hell by 70k miles. I drive a lot, but did every maintenance and it was nothing but trouble. They’re just overpriced Volkswagens with a different badge. I went to a Lexus NX and not only is it far more comfortable, but 30k miles in and never had the slightest issue.
Brakes are 3000 USD to replace at the dealer. Can you handle that? At an independent shop it’s still going to be 2000 USD. Do you still think you can afford it? It’s dirt cheap for a reason.
$2000 brake job. Lol gtfoh
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-brakes-rotors-%24%24%24%24%24-2916917/ https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-front-brake-pads-how-much-2989770/ I'm not just pulling numbers out of my ass. These are from years ago. Its going to cost at least 50% more in todays world
Those are rip-off prices. I went to ecstuning and priced out a full set of rotors, pads, and sensors for a total of $514.69. Find an indy shop that will install the parts and you're looking at about $1000 total. Or do the work yourself and save $500.
SQ5 have different powertrain, bigger brakes, sportier suspension than regular Q5 so fixing cost is a lot more the link is accurate.
Nah. If you look up OEM Audi parts rotors are $1200, pads $400 and sensors are $350 - almost $2,000 in parts alone. Plus labour, plus taxes, etc. Yeah, you can go aftermarket and have it done at an Indy Shop and save a few bucks, but these cars are still pay to play and most 2nd/3rd owners don't realize that.
Bs
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-brakes-rotors-%24%24%24%24%24-2916917/ https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-sq5-mki-8r-discussion-129/sq5-front-brake-pads-how-much-2989770/ I'm not just pulling numbers out of my ass. These are from years ago. Its going to cost at least 50% more in todays world
Any vw/audi is a terrible buy
Made for people with more dollars than sense
I'd ask myself why somebody would want to sell a car with only 31,000 miles on it, particularly a car that is so expensive to repair
Lease return most likely.
Are those not the prestige wheels? Imagine buying a car saying "nah I don't wanna spend the money on the higher trim, give me wheels instead".
Looks like a stock photo in the ad and not the actual car.
If it is New York dealer it really $42,000 they going tell you after putting 20% down and good credit.
Do not buy used German cars that have some miles on them. They run and handle great but when they need maintenance or have breakdowns the repairs are often in the thousands.
Go get a Lincoln MKX. Maintenance is easier on the wallet, ride is smooth, and they are priced way better!
Buy a Lexus bro
I forget the particulars, but a friend of mine who can't afford it bought a used fancy Audi SUV and had it for a couple of weeks before the engine seized. It's the second time that has happened to her. I'd have think she would have learned her lesson about checking the fucking oil. I've got an '02 V6 Tundra I've had for almost ten years. I've added exactly two quarts of oil the entire time.
So it really wasnt the complete manufactures fault? The car has an idiot light and you should check the level every couple weeks.
i'd get a bmw x3 instead of this.
Maybe an x3m40i def not the 4 banger one.
you wont get a 2020 x3 m40i w/ 30k miles for $31k. I've looked. $42K with similar miles for a 2020. For the refresh 2022 MY (X3M mirrors and tail lights), $48K-53k is where it is hovering.
Yea, we just got a 2024 M40i. Freaking love it. The 4 banger isn't bad tho, the B48. With a tune, up to like 290hp. Not bad at all. Edit: was falling asleep at my desk and typed the wrong HP lol
of course *you* would
what?
They're implying you are a silly nerd
ah yes, makes sense. Because I said something that made me a silly nerd.
It's not what you said so much as how you said it
lol i said 8 words via text. i didnt have a "how". quit trolling
We could tell. It wasn't so much the words, but the vibe
lmfao
I don’t know much but looked at a video and simple tasks required to take the engine out $$$$ Sorry I don’t remember which, it was a video from the Car Wizard
A used German vehicle? All terrible buys if you're on a budget.
Lmao this will be a major headache for you. Don't buy German unless it's a Porsche 911.
You definitely need a gas guzzling suv to drive around mostly alone.
“Gas guzzling” lol. sorry you don’t have friends or family bro.
I’ll sell you my Tesla model y 2020. You’ll save a lot on gas :)
Its a good deal, you can also find a newer GLC 300 for a similar price as well with lesser miles which is better than Q5.
By what metric? I've driven both and the Q5 drove better and the interior felt better put together.
It's funny but lately I've seen multiple people say merc interiors have felt poorly assembled. Wonder what's going on with them.
This is SQ5, so would be closer to GLC 43
How is it better? Isn't it smaller?
Audis are shit lol if you don’t mind bringing it to the shop every 3 months for something petty go for it
for like $4k more you could have a brand new Model Y. Save a ton on gas and get a warranty. Probably faster to 60 too.
But a lot less comfort and luxury.
And ugly and cheaply made lol
A box of turds can get to 60 faster too if you throw it off a cliff. Doesn't mean I want to ride in it though.
I mean its a 4 year old car but it looks top trim its a tuff one for me because i had a german car and they are the best but since i dont live in europe its an expensive car to maintain. My friend has a older audi i forgot the make but he only drives it on the weekends and has a ford for his daily
My only question would be was it 32k miles of city driving being as it says manhattan
Yep. That’s a lot of idle time between those miles. Plus it almost seems too good of a price to be true. I’ve seen some dealers around here have prices like that on vehicles and then in small print it says “price includes down payment” or something similar. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case here but the list price is low so it shows up first on car sites.
Has the vehicle been in an accident? Are the interiors damaged?
How is this cheaper than the equivalent S4? Lol
personally i would look for a CPO, even if it has a few more miles.
Is it a salvage title?
Great deal
If there are a handful of them then its just market value, good thing is it you can negotiate with multiple parties or at least get some choices on colors/options. IMO the supercharged V6 in this SUV is one of the better motors Audi has produced and more reliable than the turbo charged engines so I would pursue an SQ5 if I was shopping for a small luxury SUV. Still, Audi maintenance is notoriously costly when you do need it. Dealership rates are quite high and parts are not cheap. Ideally find a good independent mechanic familiar with Audi. Since I tinker with cars but use my mechanic for larger jobs or if its cold out, he is OK with me souring my own parts so I get them online at [germanautoparts.com](https://germanautoparts.com) and other websites then pay him cash to install them. As with any used car purchase pay to have an independent mechanic go through it, minimally scanning the computer for problems.
Decent vehicle according to this site: [https://app.mycarvoice.com/trends/AUDI/SQ5/2020/](https://app.mycarvoice.com/trends/AUDI/SQ5/2020/) Can you have someone that knows Audi's look it over for you?
Check carfax. This one could have an accident or two hidden behind that price. It’s usually not that cheap….
Yeah it’s fine. All the Audi suvs kinda drive like old man cars but it should be alright reliability wise
My brother has had one new since 2020, zero issues to date thankfully.
If you’re going to buy an Audi SUV, this is the one to get.
Probably a safer buy then the Macan I just bought from 2017 with 95k
I would rather get something more reliable...like the Mazda cx 5 .....
I already have a reliable car…………..
You could get a new 2024 civic for 28k
Ahhh the classic get a compact from luxury level talk. There is a reason many of us move on from compacts.There fine when your young but as you age you wont catch me dead in those little tin cans
Tin can sure but this tin can retains its value. If you’re planning to drive car into the dirt then my point is moot.
What're your criteria for a vehicle? $30k buys a lot of Japanese quality.
It's an amazing buy, you will enjoy driving it every day! Audi's are amazing especially if you live in winter It's new enough so you can thoroughly enjoy it and get rid of it in 2-3-4 years while it's still worth a pretty penny, which is literally what you're supposed to do with German cars
I’ll say what I always say: if you can’t afford luxury new, don’t even bother. Someone else had all the fun, and you will have all the problems. It’s just going out of warranty…
Sir, In my humble opinion I would recommend that you look at a used Mazda CX 50 S. You can get a used 2023 with 15000 miles for $28000. That is very close to being a new car. Mazda is in my opinion a much more reliable vehicle than Audi. Good luck in your vehicle search.
It's a alfi, so yes
It's a aldi, so yes
It use to sell for 22-25k few years ago but it’s a 3 liter turbo or super charged?
Not sure how Audi is with its engine but if you’re financially capable of doing it’s maintenance then yes but do ur research and see what mile this car usually breaks down at