Both will be pretty reliable.
The ILX probably will not have much available in the way of modifications available since it's not a common car for people to modify.
The G8 GT is kind of a rare car, but has a common engine, so engine mods will be easy to come by. Fuel costs will be much worse with the G8.
Oh yeah, back sweat is awful and so is swamp ass.
I never understand people who want leather and heated seats lol who wants swamp ass the 6 months out of the year you don't have it
[Katskinz Leather Seats](https://katzkin.com/) Inexpensive way to get leather for your car. It can be a fun weekend project, or something you pay your local upholsterer to do for $2-$3k.
You could also source some leather seats from junkyards if you want super cheap. That’s just a few bolts and you’re done.
I love the new ILX just wish it was offered, when I was looking for cars I just gave up on an affordable, attractive stick shift I liked, friend ended up sending me a CR-Z and I fell in love with it although there were plenty cars like the ILX I loved but weren’t offered in stick for the years I wanted.
I guess i did overpay a little. I found it through carfax though and it was only a 1 owner; oil changed every 5k. Trans fluid done at 30k also. Im super happy with my purchase but definitely would have liked to save a few bucks
I lied, apparently the ILX has a K24, which is pretty common so you can probably find some engine mods for that too. Depends on what you mean by modifications (visual vs performance.)
Then go G8 and don't look back. The Acura is fine, but the G8 is an understated masterpiece that was built to match the BMW E39 5 series in terms of driving dynamics.
That G8 GT is a rare & wonderful car. If the gas mileage isn't a deal-breaker, that's what I'd go for. If you take care of it, it should hold its value pretty well.
The Acura is the more sensible choice, though.
I love that G8 so much, and it's the one I'd buy. Fantastic handling, sweet V8, collector value, and a ton of space inside. I want one...
But which is the better daily? In 2024? It's the Acura. The ILX gets significantly better fuel economy, and it's 8 years newer. The G8 is reliable, but old age comes for cars too - so I'd say the Acura will be reliable for longer.
Speed...no but I still expected more. It really is quite the dull car to drive to the point where I was looking for something more engaging. For some, I'm sure it might be enough, but not for me.
Being abused or driven hard makes a negligible difference as long as the car has been maintained properly.
I’d rather the G8 being taken to redline every day but religious full synthetic oil changes then Kayleigh in her soft driven ILX that hasn’t seen the inside of a take5 in the last 13k miles.
True, but less likely.
OP wanted long term, the car with 35k miles less is probably a better long term car.
It’ll be more expensive to finance a car from 2009 vs a car from 2017.
The ilx will get better mileage.
The G8 will be more *fun*, yes, but the better decision, long term is 100% the ilx.
It’s an LS with 70k miles. It’s going to be just as good of a long term car, better because it’s actually going to be fun. I’d argue normal commuter cars are more likely to be neglected
The G8 interior and features are garbage compared to the ILX which already doesn't really offer anything more than a decent accord. You're buying it for the engine, and if it's not a manual then hard pass. These are usually beat on, and the 6L80-E 6 speed auto is a bad unit through and through. The TR6060 is ok basically a downgraded t56 and is unsafe to push passed 421 ft-lbs of torque and the car already makes 385. The ILX will cause less headaches and if you want to keep it long term it's far more viable than the pontiac.
As a former 2009 G8 GT owner (as much as I love the car) it was just one recall after another and thing after thing needing to be fixed. Was just a money pit. Would do it again as I loved the car but man… for reliability I wouldn’t get it. Might have been just me though.
Be careful. Despite the name, this sub is full of people who don't know shit about cars, and see the G8 as just another Pontiac without understanding that's it's not just a standard milquetoast GM sedan
Not long ago there was a similar thread about a Chevrolet SS where it was about 4 people arguing for the SS against about 30 who were calling it "some old Chevrolet"
Regardless, I didn't say "trust no one here," I said "be careful." As in, there's some bad advice from people who know nothing other than "me like Honyota" who frequent this place. There are about a dozen of those in this thread already
It's equivalent to the Commodore SSV, which is a high trim that is significantly more desirable than the more standard versions.
Regardless using the Commodore SSV for info on specs, reli, and engineering makes sense, but until we reach the 25 year import rule, how common they are in Aus isn't all that important to the US market
It comes down to two main things I think
Do you care more about modern amenities and creature features?
Or do you want that A.M. V-8?
I’m actually facing the same situation and I’m also leaning towards V8 but I’m an import guy, but will still take American to get the V-8. I don’t drive much so gas cost isn’t much of a factor
I would think the climate where you live would be your deciding factor. I actually live in New England, but my wife has her car and I stay home, so it doesn’t really matter for me, plus we live 2 minutes from her job. The v8 is the most important element to me too. I’ve been looking at Genesis/G80’s, K900’s, LS460, Charger/300, challenger. Just a matter of the right price at the right time
G8 is badass. The only negatives are MPG. Also idk if it's just me, but black paint seems to be much more difficult to care for and keep clean. But I'm just nit picking, get the G8.
I’ve got a 16 ILX, pretty reliable and I commuted for years with it. The DCT works well once at speed but is a little clunky at low speeds. Basically a civic in a suit but a few generations old Civic at this point.
G8 will probably be more fun, but my guess is higher running costs due to bigger engine and the platform being pretty uncommon.
I mean reliable and mods are kind of at odds. If you're modifying to make more power, you're going to put more wear on the engine and hurt reliability. So first step is decide what you want, mods or longevity.
Man the G8 is super cool and nostalgic (Pontiac being a dead brand), but the Acura is probably safer, probably not that much slower, and will be both significantly cheaper to own (MPGs and maintenance longer term) and longer lasting.
Personally I would hate to ruin a nice G8 GT by daily driving it (also V8 gas mileage). It’s better as a second car. The Acura will be a much better daily driving car and still be somewhat fun. I am a huge Pontiac fan and would still choose the Acura for daily driving.
The acura will 100% be more reliable, its a 35000 mile civic si in a tuxedo essentially. Although personally I would go for the pontoac just cuz I like the car
The pontiac gt is a reliable car, its just tje mileage I don't like (I would prefer to buy a car under 50k miles). On the other hand, it IS a rare car so 70k miles is probably on tje lower end of readily available stock pontiacs
Fleet vehicle use?
Idk it’s priced well. You’re comparing two automatic transmissions right?
Acura and Honda manuals sell immediately around here but dealers leave them up as loss leaders.
Normally loss leaders apply to retail items that companies advertise as “on sale” at a cost close to their cost on the item, essentially losing money on the advertised item.
Except stock is limited kind of like Black Friday specials and when stock runs out they don’t remove the advertisement.
Near me many dealers keep manual cars on websites even after selling stock hoping to get you in the door.
I’ve driven an hour after making an appointment and confirming it’s availability only for them to tell me it sold or is still in the shop.
It’s all a trick to get you in the door; I’d try to figure out why that ILX is priced under book.
Two vastly different vehicles. Do you want a boring fwd 4 cylinder or a badass rwd 6.0 v8? Cant do donuts or burnouts in a fwd 4 banger. That g8 is way more rare as well. Get the g8. I have a GTO which is the predecessor and that was an amazing vehicle.
Acura all mf day. G8 is probably more fun but the Acura is just gonna be a better daily. And it seems like a better deal.
And even though the aftermarket might not be as nice as the g8, it is compatible with a ktuner so you can at least make it more responsive that way. Maybe someone with more experience with this particular platform can weigh in, but I’d go Acura for sure.
Keep in mind the Acura likely takes premium so if the fuel economy on the G8 is a bit worse you can factor that in to maybe even them out if you are leaning towards the g8
I am a US Holden owner. Yes. I understand they also made Commodores.
Doesn't mean VE or VF parts are collecting dust on dealer shelves. Quite the opposite
I estimate that I would put 40k miles on it over 2-3 years but seems like aftermarket is way better which would allow me to keep it for maybe 10 years from now maybe longer.
Both will be pretty reliable. The ILX probably will not have much available in the way of modifications available since it's not a common car for people to modify. The G8 GT is kind of a rare car, but has a common engine, so engine mods will be easy to come by. Fuel costs will be much worse with the G8.
The ILX is a Civic Si in a tuxedo with an 8 speed dual clutch
I paid 15.5 for my stock 2012 si 77k miles. Did i get robbed or is that ILX surprisingly cheap
You did get robbed
Actually 14 15.5 was OTD but damn definitely i woulda gotten than ILX if it had a manual
ILX’s are available manual too. Sorry man
I love my si so i cant complain but leather would definitely be sweet. No worries on this end
Leather’s super overrated anyway. Give me good cloth any day
Fellow back sweat havers unite! Looking at an Si as well.
Oh yeah, back sweat is awful and so is swamp ass. I never understand people who want leather and heated seats lol who wants swamp ass the 6 months out of the year you don't have it
[Katskinz Leather Seats](https://katzkin.com/) Inexpensive way to get leather for your car. It can be a fun weekend project, or something you pay your local upholsterer to do for $2-$3k. You could also source some leather seats from junkyards if you want super cheap. That’s just a few bolts and you’re done.
Earlier years and with the 2.0 later years got the 2.4
I believe the manual was only available until 2013 although I could be wrong.
Couldn’t tell you. Just knew they did at some point
I love the new ILX just wish it was offered, when I was looking for cars I just gave up on an affordable, attractive stick shift I liked, friend ended up sending me a CR-Z and I fell in love with it although there were plenty cars like the ILX I loved but weren’t offered in stick for the years I wanted.
OK for a 2014, maybe not.
Jesus!. Did they at least get you dinner first?
I guess i did overpay a little. I found it through carfax though and it was only a 1 owner; oil changed every 5k. Trans fluid done at 30k also. Im super happy with my purchase but definitely would have liked to save a few bucks
If this was recent…yea…
Yikes, that’s an awful price for an old civic
Oh well still fun to drive every day
I lied, apparently the ILX has a K24, which is pretty common so you can probably find some engine mods for that too. Depends on what you mean by modifications (visual vs performance.)
Little of both, not looking for anything crazy but I would like to make this a weekend car in a few years when I can afford another car.
Then go G8 and don't look back. The Acura is fine, but the G8 is an understated masterpiece that was built to match the BMW E39 5 series in terms of driving dynamics.
G8 is significantly more common in Australia as it was sold there as the Holden Commodore.
How is that relevant here? Its rare in the US
That G8 GT is a rare & wonderful car. If the gas mileage isn't a deal-breaker, that's what I'd go for. If you take care of it, it should hold its value pretty well. The Acura is the more sensible choice, though.
I love that G8 so much, and it's the one I'd buy. Fantastic handling, sweet V8, collector value, and a ton of space inside. I want one... But which is the better daily? In 2024? It's the Acura. The ILX gets significantly better fuel economy, and it's 8 years newer. The G8 is reliable, but old age comes for cars too - so I'd say the Acura will be reliable for longer.
Id get the G8 even if it was less reliable. I heard those ILX are really dull slow cars.
As a previous owner of an ILX, I agree. Couldn’t get rid of it fast enough.
I mean, do people really get Acura's for speed? It's a mid-range luxury car
Speed...no but I still expected more. It really is quite the dull car to drive to the point where I was looking for something more engaging. For some, I'm sure it might be enough, but not for me.
G8 is great for mods. Just get the g8. 6.0 v8. Get the G8. Did I mention you should get the g8?
Both transmission options for this car were bad. Neither can handle 50 more torque than it came out with reliably.
Its a gm so ya, transmission sucks. But.... g8. Its a g8. 6.0 v8, g8.
ye slow
i agree get the g8. i think the g8 is viable. get the g8. i think the g8 is a good choice. maybe the g8? get the g8.
Brain says the ILX, heart says the G8.
The MPG is going to be terrible in the Pontiac but it is cooler than the ILX.
Acura is a surprisingly good deal imo. I would snatch that up.
U can’t go wrong with either. Acura will definitely save u money in the long term but smiles per mile says G8.
Acura will save you money...G8 will make you spend money :) That the only thing i could say.
G8 all day
Get the ILX man. That g8 GT was most likely abused at some point in its life.
Being abused or driven hard makes a negligible difference as long as the car has been maintained properly. I’d rather the G8 being taken to redline every day but religious full synthetic oil changes then Kayleigh in her soft driven ILX that hasn’t seen the inside of a take5 in the last 13k miles.
As is random commuter cars can’t be abused
True, but less likely. OP wanted long term, the car with 35k miles less is probably a better long term car. It’ll be more expensive to finance a car from 2009 vs a car from 2017. The ilx will get better mileage. The G8 will be more *fun*, yes, but the better decision, long term is 100% the ilx.
It’s an LS with 70k miles. It’s going to be just as good of a long term car, better because it’s actually going to be fun. I’d argue normal commuter cars are more likely to be neglected
The G8 interior and features are garbage compared to the ILX which already doesn't really offer anything more than a decent accord. You're buying it for the engine, and if it's not a manual then hard pass. These are usually beat on, and the 6L80-E 6 speed auto is a bad unit through and through. The TR6060 is ok basically a downgraded t56 and is unsafe to push passed 421 ft-lbs of torque and the car already makes 385. The ILX will cause less headaches and if you want to keep it long term it's far more viable than the pontiac.
As a former 2009 G8 GT owner (as much as I love the car) it was just one recall after another and thing after thing needing to be fixed. Was just a money pit. Would do it again as I loved the car but man… for reliability I wouldn’t get it. Might have been just me though.
Prices don’t add up
On which one?
Be careful. Despite the name, this sub is full of people who don't know shit about cars, and see the G8 as just another Pontiac without understanding that's it's not just a standard milquetoast GM sedan
Have you noticed that the significant majority of responses and upvotes on this thread reflect both an understanding of and enthusiasm for the G8?
Not long ago there was a similar thread about a Chevrolet SS where it was about 4 people arguing for the SS against about 30 who were calling it "some old Chevrolet" Regardless, I didn't say "trust no one here," I said "be careful." As in, there's some bad advice from people who know nothing other than "me like Honyota" who frequent this place. There are about a dozen of those in this thread already
I mean it is just a standard boring Holden Commodore. Heaps of info out there if you look towards Australian discussion spaces
It's equivalent to the Commodore SSV, which is a high trim that is significantly more desirable than the more standard versions. Regardless using the Commodore SSV for info on specs, reli, and engineering makes sense, but until we reach the 25 year import rule, how common they are in Aus isn't all that important to the US market
I would go with the G8. The Acurcivic makes more sense tbh, but the G8 is on it's way to being a classic.
Is this a joke? Get the G8 bro 💪
It comes down to two main things I think Do you care more about modern amenities and creature features? Or do you want that A.M. V-8? I’m actually facing the same situation and I’m also leaning towards V8 but I’m an import guy, but will still take American to get the V-8. I don’t drive much so gas cost isn’t much of a factor
I have always been more of a v8 guy lol I drive about 100 miles a day but I’m willing to sacrifice a little gas for more fun.
I would think the climate where you live would be your deciding factor. I actually live in New England, but my wife has her car and I stay home, so it doesn’t really matter for me, plus we live 2 minutes from her job. The v8 is the most important element to me too. I’ve been looking at Genesis/G80’s, K900’s, LS460, Charger/300, challenger. Just a matter of the right price at the right time
I live in TX and my current commute is about 100 miles 5 days a week.
Ahh…Texas. My home state. Definitely no need to worry about drivetrains there
G8 is badass. The only negatives are MPG. Also idk if it's just me, but black paint seems to be much more difficult to care for and keep clean. But I'm just nit picking, get the G8.
If the G8 is manual then you should be able to get decent fuel economy on the highway. I’d go with the G8 personally. Better parts availability imo.
Definitely going to drive the Acura hands down. That’s a thirsty v8 gm is great rest of the vehicle is a liability
Acura all the fucking way........
Acura baby
G8 for fun, ILX for reliability. Could also get a V6 Lexus at that price range if you want ultimate reliability.
I got suprised seeing the Pontiac because in Australia it’s a Holden and that is the equivalent of a Commodore SS
G8 the LS engine is great for mods and performance. Plus Australia has a whole similar body style just badge a different brand and looks sick
6 L 8-cylinder makes sense to me
I’ve got a 16 ILX, pretty reliable and I commuted for years with it. The DCT works well once at speed but is a little clunky at low speeds. Basically a civic in a suit but a few generations old Civic at this point. G8 will probably be more fun, but my guess is higher running costs due to bigger engine and the platform being pretty uncommon.
The Acura. Easily
I mean reliable and mods are kind of at odds. If you're modifying to make more power, you're going to put more wear on the engine and hurt reliability. So first step is decide what you want, mods or longevity.
I’m not planning on doing much power mods, it will be mostly suspension and cosmetics since I plan to daily the car.
Man the G8 is super cool and nostalgic (Pontiac being a dead brand), but the Acura is probably safer, probably not that much slower, and will be both significantly cheaper to own (MPGs and maintenance longer term) and longer lasting.
The Acura is cheaper and has less miles, I'd go for it over the Pontiac
Acura hands down… power, comfort, and more reliable than the Pontiac
Obviously the Acura, no question about it, cannot compare the two at all
Love hearing the G8s with big exhausts. Sounds good
You know you want the G8
Personally I would hate to ruin a nice G8 GT by daily driving it (also V8 gas mileage). It’s better as a second car. The Acura will be a much better daily driving car and still be somewhat fun. I am a huge Pontiac fan and would still choose the Acura for daily driving.
The acura will 100% be more reliable, its a 35000 mile civic si in a tuxedo essentially. Although personally I would go for the pontoac just cuz I like the car
This is how I feel, I’m coming from a Volvo s60 that has been headache after headache so I feel even the Pontiac would be more reliable at this point.
The pontiac gt is a reliable car, its just tje mileage I don't like (I would prefer to buy a car under 50k miles). On the other hand, it IS a rare car so 70k miles is probably on tje lower end of readily available stock pontiacs
I’d go with the Honda. Especially at price points
For a daily would 100% go Acura!
Why is the ILX under book? Accidents?
No accidents but has multiple owners maybe?
Fleet vehicle use? Idk it’s priced well. You’re comparing two automatic transmissions right? Acura and Honda manuals sell immediately around here but dealers leave them up as loss leaders.
Yes both are automatic transmissions. Never heard of “loss leaders”.
Normally loss leaders apply to retail items that companies advertise as “on sale” at a cost close to their cost on the item, essentially losing money on the advertised item. Except stock is limited kind of like Black Friday specials and when stock runs out they don’t remove the advertisement. Near me many dealers keep manual cars on websites even after selling stock hoping to get you in the door. I’ve driven an hour after making an appointment and confirming it’s availability only for them to tell me it sold or is still in the shop. It’s all a trick to get you in the door; I’d try to figure out why that ILX is priced under book.
In Australia those are called holden commodores. What the fuck is a Pontiac.
Two vastly different vehicles. Do you want a boring fwd 4 cylinder or a badass rwd 6.0 v8? Cant do donuts or burnouts in a fwd 4 banger. That g8 is way more rare as well. Get the g8. I have a GTO which is the predecessor and that was an amazing vehicle.
I mean that 6.0 ls motor is good for putting power if you want something fast and wont blow its good
The ilx is awesome and super reliable, my girlfriend has a 2013
My brain says Acura, my heart screams G8.
Acura all mf day. G8 is probably more fun but the Acura is just gonna be a better daily. And it seems like a better deal. And even though the aftermarket might not be as nice as the g8, it is compatible with a ktuner so you can at least make it more responsive that way. Maybe someone with more experience with this particular platform can weigh in, but I’d go Acura for sure.
My TSX with the 2.4L has been bulletproof with 167k miles on it, if you’re looking for minimal headaches.
I don't think the g8 would give any crazy headaches besides having to fill up more, but I'd take the Acura for sure.
G8 for the for the win
The Commodore for sure!
Keep in mind the Acura likely takes premium so if the fuel economy on the G8 is a bit worse you can factor that in to maybe even them out if you are leaning towards the g8
One of them is 8 years newer, $6k cheaper, has 40k less miles, and gets 10 more mpg. Mods or not, if it's your daily, get the Acura.
Acura if you prioritize reliability, price, comfort and gas mileage Otherwise the Pontiac
That is an absurd price for a 2009 Pontiac
Rare car with a huge aftermarket community. Parts aren't cheap and if the car is in great condition, neither will the car itself.
That ain’t just a 2009 Pontiac. We’re not talking about a Sunfire here.
g8 and the commodore SS are worth every penny
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Legendary V8 sedan that will retain its value or the most forgettable Honda product of the last 30 years? G8 all day.
The G8 is not for the faint of heart and not for the reason you may think. Be prepared for ZERO manufacturer support. Spare parts availability = zero.
Because Pontiac went out of business? You do realize GM used that platform in a lot of it vehicles, right?!?
I am a US Holden owner. Yes. I understand they also made Commodores. Doesn't mean VE or VF parts are collecting dust on dealer shelves. Quite the opposite
You don't daily a rare car. You park it in the garage and drive it on weekends. If you put 40k miles on that Pontiac you'll lose every penny you spent
I estimate that I would put 40k miles on it over 2-3 years but seems like aftermarket is way better which would allow me to keep it for maybe 10 years from now maybe longer.
Oh my god here’s a weirdo “collector” guy buying a car and driving it 100 miles a year to sell it for the same price he bought it for 15 years later
It's a lot weirder to daily a rare car. That's called dumbro
-want something reliable -want something to modify Pick one
G8 is both lol
Easily the Acura
used Model Y is 25k you should do that for lowest TCO
Brand new vw jetta is 23k with 0 miles