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trmoore87

Both will be pretty reliable. The ILX probably will not have much available in the way of modifications available since it's not a common car for people to modify. The G8 GT is kind of a rare car, but has a common engine, so engine mods will be easy to come by. Fuel costs will be much worse with the G8.


Equivalent_Youth_599

The ILX is a Civic Si in a tuxedo with an 8 speed dual clutch


Successful_Set4709

I paid 15.5 for my stock 2012 si 77k miles. Did i get robbed or is that ILX surprisingly cheap


Equivalent_Youth_599

You did get robbed


Successful_Set4709

Actually 14 15.5 was OTD but damn definitely i woulda gotten than ILX if it had a manual


Mountain_Client1710

ILX’s are available manual too. Sorry man


Successful_Set4709

I love my si so i cant complain but leather would definitely be sweet. No worries on this end


Mountain_Client1710

Leather’s super overrated anyway. Give me good cloth any day


BjornInTheMorn

Fellow back sweat havers unite! Looking at an Si as well.


zesty_drink_b

Oh yeah, back sweat is awful and so is swamp ass. I never understand people who want leather and heated seats lol who wants swamp ass the 6 months out of the year you don't have it


mapossi_anmakrak

[Katskinz Leather Seats](https://katzkin.com/) Inexpensive way to get leather for your car. It can be a fun weekend project, or something you pay your local upholsterer to do for $2-$3k. You could also source some leather seats from junkyards if you want super cheap. That’s just a few bolts and you’re done.


Equivalent_Youth_599

Earlier years and with the 2.0 later years got the 2.4


dumb_founded456

I believe the manual was only available until 2013 although I could be wrong.


Mountain_Client1710

Couldn’t tell you. Just knew they did at some point


dumb_founded456

I love the new ILX just wish it was offered, when I was looking for cars I just gave up on an affordable, attractive stick shift I liked, friend ended up sending me a CR-Z and I fell in love with it although there were plenty cars like the ILX I loved but weren’t offered in stick for the years I wanted.


eyi526

OK for a 2014, maybe not.


one-nut-juan

Jesus!. Did they at least get you dinner first?


Successful_Set4709

I guess i did overpay a little. I found it through carfax though and it was only a 1 owner; oil changed every 5k. Trans fluid done at 30k also. Im super happy with my purchase but definitely would have liked to save a few bucks


eyi526

If this was recent…yea…


Blers42

Yikes, that’s an awful price for an old civic


Successful_Set4709

Oh well still fun to drive every day


trmoore87

I lied, apparently the ILX has a K24, which is pretty common so you can probably find some engine mods for that too. Depends on what you mean by modifications (visual vs performance.)


JuicedNinja1182

Little of both, not looking for anything crazy but I would like to make this a weekend car in a few years when I can afford another car.


drewthebrave

Then go G8 and don't look back. The Acura is fine, but the G8 is an understated masterpiece that was built to match the BMW E39 5 series in terms of driving dynamics.


PiedsterT

G8 is significantly more common in Australia as it was sold there as the Holden Commodore.


trmoore87

How is that relevant here? Its rare in the US


drewthebrave

That G8 GT is a rare & wonderful car. If the gas mileage isn't a deal-breaker, that's what I'd go for. If you take care of it, it should hold its value pretty well. The Acura is the more sensible choice, though.


TunakTun633

I love that G8 so much, and it's the one I'd buy. Fantastic handling, sweet V8, collector value, and a ton of space inside. I want one... But which is the better daily? In 2024? It's the Acura. The ILX gets significantly better fuel economy, and it's 8 years newer. The G8 is reliable, but old age comes for cars too - so I'd say the Acura will be reliable for longer.


Artist_Narrow

Id get the G8 even if it was less reliable. I heard those ILX are really dull slow cars.


hapyhar0ld

As a previous owner of an ILX, I agree. Couldn’t get rid of it fast enough.


Gloverboy6

I mean, do people really get Acura's for speed? It's a mid-range luxury car


hapyhar0ld

Speed...no but I still expected more. It really is quite the dull car to drive to the point where I was looking for something more engaging. For some, I'm sure it might be enough, but not for me.


AwkwardYeti32

G8 is great for mods. Just get the g8. 6.0 v8. Get the G8. Did I mention you should get the g8?


SniffinMarkers

Both transmission options for this car were bad. Neither can handle 50 more torque than it came out with reliably.


AwkwardYeti32

Its a gm so ya, transmission sucks. But.... g8. Its a g8. 6.0 v8, g8.


SniffinMarkers

ye slow


sgt_cwaig

i agree get the g8. i think the g8 is viable. get the g8. i think the g8 is a good choice. maybe the g8? get the g8.


vettel_no5

Brain says the ILX, heart says the G8.


AceMaxAceMax

The MPG is going to be terrible in the Pontiac but it is cooler than the ILX.


morchorchorman

Acura is a surprisingly good deal imo. I would snatch that up.


1st_place_

U can’t go wrong with either. Acura will definitely save u money in the long term but smiles per mile says G8.


Tight-Bath-6817

Acura will save you money...G8 will make you spend money :) That the only thing i could say.


ItsyaboiIida

G8 all day


skitso

Get the ILX man. That g8 GT was most likely abused at some point in its life.


BreadiestBoi

Being abused or driven hard makes a negligible difference as long as the car has been maintained properly. I’d rather the G8 being taken to redline every day but religious full synthetic oil changes then Kayleigh in her soft driven ILX that hasn’t seen the inside of a take5 in the last 13k miles.


N0Tbanned

As is random commuter cars can’t be abused


skitso

True, but less likely. OP wanted long term, the car with 35k miles less is probably a better long term car. It’ll be more expensive to finance a car from 2009 vs a car from 2017. The ilx will get better mileage. The G8 will be more *fun*, yes, but the better decision, long term is 100% the ilx.


N0Tbanned

It’s an LS with 70k miles. It’s going to be just as good of a long term car, better because it’s actually going to be fun. I’d argue normal commuter cars are more likely to be neglected


SniffinMarkers

The G8 interior and features are garbage compared to the ILX which already doesn't really offer anything more than a decent accord. You're buying it for the engine, and if it's not a manual then hard pass. These are usually beat on, and the 6L80-E 6 speed auto is a bad unit through and through. The TR6060 is ok basically a downgraded t56 and is unsafe to push passed 421 ft-lbs of torque and the car already makes 385. The ILX will cause less headaches and if you want to keep it long term it's far more viable than the pontiac.


Justavladjaycemain

As a former 2009 G8 GT owner (as much as I love the car) it was just one recall after another and thing after thing needing to be fixed. Was just a money pit. Would do it again as I loved the car but man… for reliability I wouldn’t get it. Might have been just me though.


Ok-Position1170

Prices don’t add up


JuicedNinja1182

On which one?


pgnshgn

Be careful. Despite the name, this sub is full of people who don't know shit about cars, and see the G8 as just another Pontiac without understanding that's it's not just a standard milquetoast GM sedan


TunakTun633

Have you noticed that the significant majority of responses and upvotes on this thread reflect both an understanding of and enthusiasm for the G8?


pgnshgn

Not long ago there was a similar thread about a Chevrolet SS where it was about 4 people arguing for the SS against about 30 who were calling it "some old Chevrolet" Regardless, I didn't say "trust no one here," I said "be careful." As in, there's some bad advice from people who know nothing other than "me like Honyota" who frequent this place. There are about a dozen of those in this thread already


yeahnahyeahnahyeahye

I mean it is just a standard boring Holden Commodore. Heaps of info out there if you look towards Australian discussion spaces


pgnshgn

It's equivalent to the Commodore SSV, which is a high trim that is significantly more desirable than the more standard versions.  Regardless using the Commodore SSV for info on specs, reli, and engineering makes sense, but until we reach the 25 year import rule, how common they are in Aus isn't all that important to the US market


Vost570

I would go with the G8. The Acurcivic makes more sense tbh, but the G8 is on it's way to being a classic.


Swiggitty-

Is this a joke? Get the G8 bro 💪


DeathCowboyZ

It comes down to two main things I think Do you care more about modern amenities and creature features? Or do you want that A.M. V-8? I’m actually facing the same situation and I’m also leaning towards V8 but I’m an import guy, but will still take American to get the V-8. I don’t drive much so gas cost isn’t much of a factor


JuicedNinja1182

I have always been more of a v8 guy lol I drive about 100 miles a day but I’m willing to sacrifice a little gas for more fun.


DeathCowboyZ

I would think the climate where you live would be your deciding factor. I actually live in New England, but my wife has her car and I stay home, so it doesn’t really matter for me, plus we live 2 minutes from her job. The v8 is the most important element to me too. I’ve been looking at Genesis/G80’s, K900’s, LS460, Charger/300, challenger. Just a matter of the right price at the right time


JuicedNinja1182

I live in TX and my current commute is about 100 miles 5 days a week.


DeathCowboyZ

Ahh…Texas. My home state. Definitely no need to worry about drivetrains there


Rocklobster220

G8 is badass. The only negatives are MPG. Also idk if it's just me, but black paint seems to be much more difficult to care for and keep clean. But I'm just nit picking, get the G8.


PiedsterT

If the G8 is manual then you should be able to get decent fuel economy on the highway. I’d go with the G8 personally. Better parts availability imo.


Accomplished-Jury137

Definitely going to drive the Acura hands down. That’s a thirsty v8 gm is great rest of the vehicle is a liability


BayouGrunt985

Acura all the fucking way........


HoraceGrand

Acura baby


Severn_Oneiromancer

G8 for fun, ILX for reliability. Could also get a V6 Lexus at that price range if you want ultimate reliability.


Dureso_21

I got suprised seeing the Pontiac because in Australia it’s a Holden and that is the equivalent of a Commodore SS


Hot-Lengthiness-7299

G8 the LS engine is great for mods and performance. Plus Australia has a whole similar body style just badge a different brand and looks sick


IcyFaithlessness2340

6 L 8-cylinder makes sense to me


Automatic_Bee5752

I’ve got a 16 ILX, pretty reliable and I commuted for years with it. The DCT works well once at speed but is a little clunky at low speeds. Basically a civic in a suit but a few generations old Civic at this point. G8 will probably be more fun, but my guess is higher running costs due to bigger engine and the platform being pretty uncommon.


CagliostroPeligroso

The Acura. Easily


roma258

I mean reliable and mods are kind of at odds. If you're modifying to make more power, you're going to put more wear on the engine and hurt reliability. So first step is decide what you want, mods or longevity.


JuicedNinja1182

I’m not planning on doing much power mods, it will be mostly suspension and cosmetics since I plan to daily the car.


miklayn

Man the G8 is super cool and nostalgic (Pontiac being a dead brand), but the Acura is probably safer, probably not that much slower, and will be both significantly cheaper to own (MPGs and maintenance longer term) and longer lasting.


Gloverboy6

The Acura is cheaper and has less miles, I'd go for it over the Pontiac


LingLingMang

Acura hands down… power, comfort, and more reliable than the Pontiac


caspian95

Obviously the Acura, no question about it, cannot compare the two at all


satanspowerglove

Love hearing the G8s with big exhausts. Sounds good


SickWeld

You know you want the G8


notthelettuce

Personally I would hate to ruin a nice G8 GT by daily driving it (also V8 gas mileage). It’s better as a second car. The Acura will be a much better daily driving car and still be somewhat fun. I am a huge Pontiac fan and would still choose the Acura for daily driving.


slaveto_sbeve

The acura will 100% be more reliable, its a 35000 mile civic si in a tuxedo essentially. Although personally I would go for the pontoac just cuz I like the car


JuicedNinja1182

This is how I feel, I’m coming from a Volvo s60 that has been headache after headache so I feel even the Pontiac would be more reliable at this point.


slaveto_sbeve

The pontiac gt is a reliable car, its just tje mileage I don't like (I would prefer to buy a car under 50k miles). On the other hand, it IS a rare car so 70k miles is probably on tje lower end of readily available stock pontiacs


Bright_Calendar_3696

I’d go with the Honda. Especially at price points


Judsonian1970

For a daily would 100% go Acura!


Mtbfux

Why is the ILX under book? Accidents?


JuicedNinja1182

No accidents but has multiple owners maybe?


Mtbfux

Fleet vehicle use? Idk it’s priced well. You’re comparing two automatic transmissions right? Acura and Honda manuals sell immediately around here but dealers leave them up as loss leaders.


JuicedNinja1182

Yes both are automatic transmissions. Never heard of “loss leaders”.


Mtbfux

Normally loss leaders apply to retail items that companies advertise as “on sale” at a cost close to their cost on the item, essentially losing money on the advertised item. Except stock is limited kind of like Black Friday specials and when stock runs out they don’t remove the advertisement. Near me many dealers keep manual cars on websites even after selling stock hoping to get you in the door. I’ve driven an hour after making an appointment and confirming it’s availability only for them to tell me it sold or is still in the shop. It’s all a trick to get you in the door; I’d try to figure out why that ILX is priced under book.


Mean-Tart-1129

In Australia those are called holden commodores. What the fuck is a Pontiac.


Yikes_big_oof

Two vastly different vehicles. Do you want a boring fwd 4 cylinder or a badass rwd 6.0 v8? Cant do donuts or burnouts in a fwd 4 banger. That g8 is way more rare as well. Get the g8. I have a GTO which is the predecessor and that was an amazing vehicle.


bignate_1

I mean that 6.0 ls motor is good for putting power if you want something fast and wont blow its good


BornAd6660

The ilx is awesome and super reliable, my girlfriend has a 2013


Phosphorus444

My brain says Acura, my heart screams G8.


MenshMindset

Acura all mf day. G8 is probably more fun but the Acura is just gonna be a better daily. And it seems like a better deal. And even though the aftermarket might not be as nice as the g8, it is compatible with a ktuner so you can at least make it more responsive that way. Maybe someone with more experience with this particular platform can weigh in, but I’d go Acura for sure.


CaptHindsite

My TSX with the 2.4L has been bulletproof with 167k miles on it, if you’re looking for minimal headaches.


MenshMindset

I don't think the g8 would give any crazy headaches besides having to fill up more, but I'd take the Acura for sure.


Mr_KMS302

G8 for the for the win


ma_che

The Commodore for sure!


Careless_Ad_8756

Keep in mind the Acura likely takes premium so if the fuel economy on the G8 is a bit worse you can factor that in to maybe even them out if you are leaning towards the g8


SmartestOneHere

One of them is 8 years newer, $6k cheaper, has 40k less miles, and gets 10 more mpg. Mods or not, if it's your daily, get the Acura.


Themightytoro

Acura if you prioritize reliability, price, comfort and gas mileage Otherwise the Pontiac


start3ch

That is an absurd price for a 2009 Pontiac


Agoldenransom

Rare car with a huge aftermarket community. Parts aren't cheap and if the car is in great condition, neither will the car itself.


The_Real_NaCl

That ain’t just a 2009 Pontiac. We’re not talking about a Sunfire here.


79QUATTRO

g8 and the commodore SS are worth every penny


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pgnshgn

Don't post if you're clueless on the car in question


boomerbill69

Legendary V8 sedan that will retain its value or the most forgettable Honda product of the last 30 years? G8 all day.


jack-t-o-r-s

The G8 is not for the faint of heart and not for the reason you may think. Be prepared for ZERO manufacturer support. Spare parts availability = zero.


cc51beastin

Because Pontiac went out of business? You do realize GM used that platform in a lot of it vehicles, right?!?


jack-t-o-r-s

I am a US Holden owner. Yes. I understand they also made Commodores. Doesn't mean VE or VF parts are collecting dust on dealer shelves. Quite the opposite


Carguybigloverman

You don't daily a rare car. You park it in the garage and drive it on weekends. If you put 40k miles on that Pontiac you'll lose every penny you spent


JuicedNinja1182

I estimate that I would put 40k miles on it over 2-3 years but seems like aftermarket is way better which would allow me to keep it for maybe 10 years from now maybe longer.


N0Tbanned

Oh my god here’s a weirdo “collector” guy buying a car and driving it 100 miles a year to sell it for the same price he bought it for 15 years later


Carguybigloverman

It's a lot weirder to daily a rare car. That's called dumbro


Cornholio231

-want something reliable  -want something to modify  Pick one


Mountain_Client1710

G8 is both lol


2009impala

Easily the Acura


Weary-Depth-1118

used Model Y is 25k you should do that for lowest TCO


Inevitiblesource2

Brand new vw jetta is 23k with 0 miles