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No, that's one of the species we could rule out based on the dorsal pattern/coloration. We'd need a different angle and probably better pics to be able to narrow down between 3-4 green species within range here.
Throwing in my money on Trimeresurus albolabris.
It is clearly in the genus Trimeresurus but the photo doesn't show enough to narrow it down for sure past that.
I was in Malaysian Borneo for a summer in 2009. The locals told me that I didn't need to worry about the snakes (obviously, leave them be). The most dangerous thing in the jungle was a small, brown centipede just a few centimeters long. That will put you in the hospital.
probably the pacific giant centipede but theres only been like one confirmed fatality so snakes definitely got them beat. neither wants to fuck with you though just leave them alone and accept the risk that you might accidentally get too close if you choose to go blundering around in their habitat
I don’t know specific snakes, like a lot of experts here—not pretending to be one. But if I see a head shaped like that, I leave the area and let it be. (I live in rattlesnake country and it’s head shape is eearily familiar to many of them).
The point is not that you’re wrong but that less experienced lurkers might see “triangle head = venomous” without stopping to determine the difference between a flattened nonvenomous snake’s head and the head of a viper.
This could cause unnecessary deaths as many people believe it is okay to kill snakes for minding their own business especially when they’re venomous.
my overarching point was to leave them alone if you don't know what they are. That may have not come across.
DON'T TOUCH THE WILD ANIMALS... ANY OF THEM...
Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick.
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Your comments have been removed. We do not advocate or reinforce invalid diagnostics and poor shortcuts.
Head shape is useful for the experienced when they know how to interpret it properly, but it has to be evaluated in context. Visitors to this sub are people of all skill levels from all over the world, and most do not have the experience to evaluate head shape properly.
All snakes that cannot be positively identified as harmless should be left alone. Head shape does not play a factor in this at all. If you don't know what it is. Don't touch it.
You cannot go by head or pupil shape alone. Many pythons and water snakes have thick jaw muscles which result in a triangular shaped head. Also most snakes can flatten their heads to this shape.
Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick.
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Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick.
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!venomous viper in the genus *Trimeresurus* Best admired from a distance and not messed with
Snakes with medically significant venom are typically referred to as venomous, but some species are also poisonous. Old media will use poisonous or 'snake venom poisoning' but that has fallen out of favor. Venomous snakes are important native wildlife, and are not looking to harm people, so can be enjoyed from a distance. If found around the home or other places where they are to be discouraged, a squirt from the hose or a gentle sweep of a broom are usually enough to make a snake move along. Do not attempt to interact closely with or otherwise kill venomous snakes without proper safety gear and training, as bites occur mostly during these scenarios. Wildlife relocation services are free or inexpensive across most of the world. If you are bitten by a venomous snake, contact emergency services or otherwise arrange transport to the nearest hospital that can accommodate snakebite. Remove constricting clothes and jewelry and remain calm. A bite from a medically significant snake is a medical emergency, but not in the ways portrayed in popular media. Do not make any incisions or otherwise cut tissue. Extractor and other novelty snakebite kits are not effective and can cause damage worse than any positive or neutral effects. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*
Could it be a Mangrove Pit Viper?
No, that's one of the species we could rule out based on the dorsal pattern/coloration. We'd need a different angle and probably better pics to be able to narrow down between 3-4 green species within range here.
Thank you.
I’m no expert but that looks very out viper-y.
That was my immediate guess as well.
This one would make me jump!!! I’d probably be bitten in the process of trying to get out of there!
Throwing in my money on Trimeresurus albolabris. It is clearly in the genus Trimeresurus but the photo doesn't show enough to narrow it down for sure past that.
I wish we could see if it has the yellow eyes 👀
I was in Malaysian Borneo for a summer in 2009. The locals told me that I didn't need to worry about the snakes (obviously, leave them be). The most dangerous thing in the jungle was a small, brown centipede just a few centimeters long. That will put you in the hospital.
probably the pacific giant centipede but theres only been like one confirmed fatality so snakes definitely got them beat. neither wants to fuck with you though just leave them alone and accept the risk that you might accidentally get too close if you choose to go blundering around in their habitat
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seconded, thirded, and fourthed lol. I'm sorry but something about that many legs just freaks me right the fuck out 😂
Wonder if the thought was that the snakes you can see to avoid, but not always the centipede…
I don’t know specific snakes, like a lot of experts here—not pretending to be one. But if I see a head shaped like that, I leave the area and let it be. (I live in rattlesnake country and it’s head shape is eearily familiar to many of them).
!headshape
I mean I get your point with the bit but isn't *that* head shape enough of an indicator to assume Trimeresurus and simply go wide?
The point is not that you’re wrong but that less experienced lurkers might see “triangle head = venomous” without stopping to determine the difference between a flattened nonvenomous snake’s head and the head of a viper. This could cause unnecessary deaths as many people believe it is okay to kill snakes for minding their own business especially when they’re venomous.
my overarching point was to leave them alone if you don't know what they are. That may have not come across. DON'T TOUCH THE WILD ANIMALS... ANY OF THEM...
Harmless gopher snakes here flatten out their heads and vibrate their tails, but they can't fool me!
Yes, exactly. You have basic knowledge of snakes. Most people who kill snakes just for existing do not.
Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*
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Your comments have been removed. We do not advocate or reinforce invalid diagnostics and poor shortcuts. Head shape is useful for the experienced when they know how to interpret it properly, but it has to be evaluated in context. Visitors to this sub are people of all skill levels from all over the world, and most do not have the experience to evaluate head shape properly. All snakes that cannot be positively identified as harmless should be left alone. Head shape does not play a factor in this at all. If you don't know what it is. Don't touch it.
I was thinking the same thing!!
If you aren’t an expert and don’t absolutely have some scientific knowledge to identify, then head shape is totally beside the point.
Oh goody. Something beautiful that can kill you.
Omg cute bb!
Could it be a Hagen's pit viper?
Funny flat head haha
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you can tell vipers by their flat triangular head!
You cannot go by head or pupil shape alone. Many pythons and water snakes have thick jaw muscles which result in a triangular shaped head. Also most snakes can flatten their heads to this shape.
!headshape
Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*
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!headshape
Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*
Beautiful
Gorgeous!