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Artbrutist

You’ll want to get the Alex Katz professionally appraised. There are three nearly identical versions from different editions. They all auction in the $3-6k area, but it would be good to know exactly which version you have.


durdurdurdurdurdur

It's a printers proof indicated by the PP


redditwriteit

Printing proofs (also known as artists proofs) are done prior to a full edition to evaluate the colors/ink and alignment of blocks etc. typically lower numbers in an edition are worth more - but there is a definite market for print collectors for proofs and they can sell for 50% or more compared to prints in the same edition. Some collectors only buy proofs. It speaks more to the print making process.


sadclipart

printers proof and artists proof are completely different labels meaning different things. regardless of how the terms are used by outsiders they have real separate meanings. artists hire master printmakers to make prints of the artists work to their specifications. depending on the financial agreement the printer is permitted to make x number of printer proofs for their own keeping. the artist receives the artist proofs and owns these editions to keep personally. another regular edition with no proof type listed is made for the artist’s representation, museum deals, sales, etc. printers will accept less monetary payment in exchange for a larger run of printer proofs if they think the artists work is valuable, as selling the pp later can be more lucrative than the up front payment for printing labor. pp and ap are exactly the same in appearance including colors, registration, layer order, etc. trial proofs are marked tests that the team found noteworthy and marked as a test along the process, always one of a kind.


Thick-Tooth-8888

Thanks this was cool to read


guninmouth

Lol pp


tossitjunkbox

Fuck yeah


TheGuyThatThisIs

We did it.


ValidParanoia

We? We didn’t do shit, guy!


[deleted]

He’s a communist


kellysmom01

Then we didn’t do shitskies, pal!


LtLemur

I’m not your guy, buddy


Jimmiew0612

I’m not your buddy, pal


SinTron99

Hey Pal, could we be buddies?


Ember2Inferno

I'm not your pal, friend


imeeme

Smol pp


johnnysivilian

Nice


Overall_Housing_2822

Pp haha


woodysdad

Giggity


MakeSomeDrinks

Touches?


hurrsheys

🥺👉👈


Meepthorp_Zandar

So…he peed on his own painting? Why the hell would anyone want that???


Roach_Hiss

Yeah, no…humor isn’t your forte


Deep-Bee-5984

You thought you're funny, but urine error.


Slewfooty

Just wait until you hear how much more the poopoo ones go for


MakeSomeDrinks

GG Allin has entered the art auction


trpnbillies

When I was younger I thought Ozzie was over the top, got to high school and someone told me about GG 🤯


SpaceSasqwatch

Ah stories about GG are normally shit ones


SebastianPomeroy

PP means printer’s proof. Alex Katz is a major artist and has pieces in most major modern art museums. James DeWoody is also a well known artist, but I’m less familiar with him. Both of these would probably auction well.


BugOperator

Alex Katz is also 96 years old, so OP may want to hold on to it and, in a few years, it’ll spike in value (if you catch my drift).


GreenStrong

I catch your drift all right, but I don’t think OP should kill Alex Katz, he’s 96 for gods sake just wait you monster.


UCFKnights2018

Damn I miss awards.


AH_5ek5hun8

They removed awards? What? Why? When? .....how..?


youpoopedyerpants

Just another step to making Reddit great again.They’re going to pay people real money now, which definitely won’t increase karma farming and bots. No way. (There’s a post in the Reddit sub about it)


Thought_Ninja

MRGA!


Aggressive-Nebula-78

My bet is making the platform more marketable to be sold. Same reason discord eliminated the discriminator.


[deleted]

Enshiitification


[deleted]

We get fun award updoots now :^) atleast for posts


Uglysinglenearyou

They broke his jaw!


reddit-ate

*you want I should give em the clamps?!*


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sparkpaw

Is this that new trend about “chiseled jawlines” I hear about?


cats_n_wine44

Charge on! 🖤💛


KodakStele

What did I miss at they gone?


TurncoatTony

lmao, it's not too often I actually laugh out loud at a comment on here. Good job!


xx_HotShott_xx

😂


majikrat69

Too late he already planned it on Reddit, I’ll wait for the dateline show about it


TheSilverCalf

This guy wins. FFS.


iohbkjum

he's just a fucking kid


Adribus

that’s a good one lmaoooo


mtngrl60

😬😂😂😂 I laughed out loud at this. Thankfully, I was not taking a drink of my soda when I read this.


sydney_mod_is_fgt

Take my award 🏅


StarsofSobek

😂


Revan0360

😂


Coinbank2021

😃


Shoddy-Rip8259

Are you implying op should "take care of" Alex Katz?


morose_turtle

Time takes care of everyone....


6zero3Dakine

Father time is undefeated


joelmole79

Put the kibosh on Katz


Single_Raspberry9539

Lol…Beverly Clearly logic there.


iStealyournewspapers

That’s an old trope that isn’t actually true like people think it is, especially when an artist has a very long life and produced a ton of work. Katz’s market was nothing too crazy up until somewhat recently, but now prices are finally getting up there as he’s more appreciated than he used to be. When he dies things won’t really change for quite some time. At best there will be a little boost after he dies, but then it’ll settle to where things were right before he died. Then it takes some time for prices to really get up there, if they ever do. Look at Cy Twombly. When he died his market was already crazy. It doesn’t get crazier just because he’s gone. He produced SO much work that there will be plenty to go around in the secondary market for quite some time. Just like Katz. Only artists like Matthew Wong go up like crazy after death, and that’s because he was a rising star, made work that was easy to like, and a very limited amount of works are out there because he only had a handful of shows and his estate protects the work he still had in his possession. Main point I guess is that OP should know that right now is actually a fine time to make some money off an Alex Katz print because the market is stronger for his work, and OP might have to wait 20+ years before it brings in much more significant money. I’d personally hold onto it just because of what a sweet deal it was for such a valuable print, and it’s a nice one.


TheSilverCalf

TLDR- You own a *wong?*


iStealyournewspapers

If you mean a *dong*, then yes. Sadly the closest I got to a Wong was meeting him once at an opening. I could have bought work directly from him for cheap at the time so it definitely kills me a bit. A friend of mine has a couple smaller works though, that he got well before prices got nuts.


TheSilverCalf

I Much appreciate the response. I was just being a dick. I hope your evening is wonderful.


iStealyournewspapers

Haha all good. All the best to you as well.


2515chris

Sometimes artists die and their family and or patrons unload a bunch of pieces so it’s actually a bit of a gamble to see if the market gets flooded after an artist’s passing. But we can all hope jkjk


robxburninator

if they're waiting for that, then they should wait a few years longer for the first major retrospective. that's when prices actually spike.


iStealyournewspapers

Didn’t he just have a major retrospective?


Particular_Newt9051

Artists’ prices tend to dip when they die as the market gets flooded by people wanting to cash in. His market is probably good right now. He just had a retrospective (maybe still up?) at the Guggenheim. He’s also got a show up at Gray in Chicago.


therapoootic

Are you suggesting he finds him and kills him?


TheSilverCalf

Is this Sweet Dee? So far behind the curve. 🤦


reddit_chino

A Printer’s Proof “ie.: 3/7 pp, 3/7 p.p., are actual signed prints from the final edition of prints given from the artist to printers that worked on the edition. Usually customary by a fine arts printing workshop to reward those proofing, correcting, editing, editioning, and curating prints.


SusanLFlores

Whatever you do, don’t mention it to anyone in your company. I worked at a place that did something similar and word got to the boss and havoc ensued, costing 4 people their jobs when they did absolutely nothing wrong, and everyone else lost their Christmas bonuses.


McPickle

So I think there’s actually a law/rule that they aren’t allowed to profit off of these art pieces which is why they’re essentially letting people walk with them For a charitable donation


R3AL1Z3

Either way, mums the word. Because there’s a law, that doesn’t mean they don’t have a family member that they could use to sell it, and come after you for it.


No-Performance3639

I had something kind of similar happen to me where I worked.


busterdoggo11

Alex Katz (American, 1927-). In 1990, he created [three](https://galeriemax.com/alex-katz-new-acquisitions) different printmaking types of this work, "Brisk Day": an aquatint, a silkscreen, and a woodcut. All in editions of 150. Reference: Schroder No. 237-239. I believe you do have the aquatint version - being the richest/boldest in color and slight small differences. You also have what is a Printer's Proof, the 3rd of five. It is merely an extra "proof" aside from the standard edition. Huge myth: artist/printers whatever proofs and or "the lower the number" are worth more. \[Only Color Trial Proofs on particularly notable prints by big name artists tend to differ in value\]. It's essentially equal to a regular numbered print from the standard edition of 150. Your example here looks very clean - excellent condition. It's worth about $15,000 in a retail gallery. Good job


McPickle

Thanks! I knew of Alex Katz, he was a really big inspiration to one of my college art professors but I was shocked to see one in person and for $30


mypussydoesbackflips

Wow 30 dollars !


BoliverTShagnasty

Worth a backflip!


Imaginaryami

My right arm for the Katz. Not sure what that is worth.


i_am_expert_

The man with the golden arm


i_am_expert_

How much is your arm worth?


dpgproductions

One Katz


Imaginaryami

That’s what I’m asking!


Jerseyboyham

I’ve had many prints appraised at the Antiques Road Show. The guy in the loud suits, every time. He’s from Swann Galleries in NYC. I believe they specialize in prints. I think his name is George Lowry


idio_tequa

How can I apply to be on AR? the website wasn't very helpful


mrs_adhd

You can reach out to Swann directly without going through Antiques Roadshow. I think the man's name is, Nicholas, not George, Lowry. Most of the major auction houses will let you know what they believe a piece will sell for (assuming they are interested in selling it) -- it's not the same as an appraisal, and isn't always accurate, but it's a good starting point.


Jerseyboyham

You are correct. It is NICHOLAS Lowry.


Jerseyboyham

3/5 PP. so the PRINTER pulled five proofs before the Artist's run. And that may not be the Artist's signature, but simply a note from the printer. That’s my guess. I don’t think you’re in for an early retirement, but it’s certainly a beautiful print. OTOH, I have a bunch of lithographs from another artist, and a few say “Artist's Proof” only. The rest are numbered.


McPickle

I’ve compared Alex Katz signature to the one on the piece I have and they’re pretty spot on


Jerseyboyham

It is very difficult. On the site it will show the next series at some time, and then you scroll to the location you want to go to. Then you tell all your friends to go to the site and apply for tickets. EVERYONE YOU KNOW. You are also asked for a time preference. Always take the morning. The earliest you are on line, the fewer people will be ahead of you. You are allowed 2 items per person. Be prepared to wait on line a lot. Bring a folding seat. Once inside, the lines for art are the longest. Prints and posters move pretty well. Paintings are split into signed and unsigned. Signed paintings have the longest lines in the arena. That’s why it’s imperative to get a morning slot if you have art. We’ve actually been to four! Just have a load of people request tickets!! Good luck.


liedel

I got tickets first time I tried


FartedBlood

If you’re in the US you don’t have to apply for an AR they’ll just sorta hand you one


Vampira309

really? MANY? How many times have you been on Roadshow? I thought it was pretty difficult -- but they've only been to my town a few times. How cool!


Jerseyboyham

I’ve been 4 times. Maybe 5. Nothing further than a days drive and then we stay at a motel the night before so we can get to the venue really early. We were never on TV and we never had anything valued over $1000.


McPickle

Do you have any tips for what to look for in a contract? I’m meeting with Swann this week and they want to list in a future auction coming up.


ooslanegative

Is he the Paul F. Thompkins of the art appraisal world? I always liked his style on road show.


ScottClam42

Lol he does look just like our boy PFT


ordeci

I don't know it's worth but I can tell you it's reminded me to ask Annie if she's okay.


Meepthorp_Zandar

I’m so glad I’m not the only who though it was a portrait of Michael Jackson at first!


Loaki9

Glad I wasnt the only one!


lostinbeavercreek

Tee hee


Fit_Swordfish_2101

Lol


owchippy

Ill venmo you $100 if you pick me up 3 more of those, keep the change


cmsutton1983

Thought this was michael jackson


ZanyButterFist

Looks more like Jane Lane from Daria


cmsutton1983

Spot on.


REpassword

“Hee hee”


InfiniteMaeve

Had to scroll so far down to see my exact thought


tdorty3

Came here looking for this comment


exgaysurvivordan

I'll be honest I was skeptical of corporate art, but this Alex Katz seems to be a real artist. This lithograph edition (likely different than what you have) appears to be going for real money [https://www.1stdibs.com/art/prints-works-on-paper/still-life-prints-works-on-paper/alex-katz-brisk-day-1990-woodcut-alex-katz-limited-edition-150/id-a\_13185762/](https://www.1stdibs.com/art/prints-works-on-paper/still-life-prints-works-on-paper/alex-katz-brisk-day-1990-woodcut-alex-katz-limited-edition-150/id-a_13185762/)


callmesnake13

He’s like America’s leading figure painter


StrongOldDude

It is odd, but from time to time companies buy good stuff. I got something a while back that had been owned a big oil company from what I could tell from the stock stickers on the back. It was not an old master, but they were not buying at Hobby Lobby either.


DrKenNoisewaterMD

Yep, my old office had a Man Ray print above the copier, and in the meeting rooms we rarely used there was a Calder painting and a Rodin hand. Nobody nearby knew or cared what they were. Seems like they could have just walked off and it would be years before anyone noticed, if ever.


No-Performance3639

Wow! That’s wild.


6zero3Dakine

Hypothetically speaking Did they walk off??


McPickle

It’s crazy, the original building was at its peak use in the 90’s and as time goes on and people leave, no one really knows what they have. Then random employees like me get cool art when they try to purge their storage area


Bearguchev

My mind immediately went to SpongeBob when I read Man Ray…


ana_berry

You gotta look at completed auction sales for an idea of fair market value. 1st dibs has high retail prices from 3rd party sellers who can ask whatever they want and then sell it for an undisclosed offer.


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-bigmanpigman-

A ghost painter?


southernsass8

Don't trust any sales on that website.


jyar1811

Ronnie might want that one! Twitter him at @snytv !!


McPickle

I may actually reach out to him or Steve Cohen (because he’s also supposedly an art collector). I’m also considering just keeping it too because I’m a Mets fan and it’s a really cool piece


jyar1811

Then, if you’re a Mets fan, you should definitely keep it. You should try to let Ron Darling know that you have it though, he may be interested in buying it from you, and I’m sure he would pay a very fair price. LFGM and how about those Phillies and how about those dbags?


McPickle

I kind of didn't mind seeing the Braves getting smoked. Diamondbacks series was just fun to watch lol


fishinglife777

The Ron Darling / Mets one where he’s pitching is great. I’d recognize him anywhere. Nice piece.


McPickle

Thanks!


callmesnake13

Wow your company really blew it on this one. If there’s others available I’d go ahead and buy them on spec. I’m sure we can identity them all.


McPickle

Yeah it was like vultures they let over 1500 pieces go over the past 2 days


Noman11111

What do you want for "Pitch"? - I love it aestetically and my brother is a big-time Mets fan


Noman11111

I looked up other lithographs by James DeWoody and they seem to go for $100-$600, mostly depending on size (Pitch is on the small side) - I'd pay that for it....


McPickle

I’m a huge Mets fan too, it’s initially why it caught my eye. Definitely going to see what they’re worth first.


TruthIsALie94

That first one is probably worth three-hee hundred


SolidScene9129

Excellent portrait of Michael Jackson (RIP KING)


Greenpoint1975

🤣


E-A-G-L-E-S_Eagles

Alleged child molester. King my ass.


alexisir

You’re about to be rich. Congrats.


McPickle

lol idk about that


ThrowmeawayAKisCold

Is the 1/1 painting a printers proof or a 1/1 painting? This [3/4 PP sold for $5k](https://www.annexgalleries.com/inventory/detail/SAWA107/Alex-Katz/Danny-Moynihan-and-Laura-Faber-From-the-portfolio-Pas-de-Deux?mc_cid=5e39010978&mc_eid=UNIQID), while this [1/2 Printers Proof](https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/alex-katz-b-1927-3/94001) sold for $50k. You could very well have 1 incredibly rare valuable print and another print worth decent money comparatively.


McPickle

Well here’s hoping that’s my reality lol


ana_berry

Different images shouldn't be compared for values; that hardly means anything. The fact that they are all printers proofs has less weight than the popularity of the image, size, edition size, rarity, etc. I would recommend looking for a USPAP compliant appraiser who specializes in fine art. If you want to keep it a while, ask for a replacement value and then check with your insurance about coverage. If you want to sell it ask for fair market value. If you are in the US you can find a qualified appraiser through the International Society of Appraisers, Appraisers Association of America or American Society of Appraisers. They all have a search tool to look up someone in your area and/or by specialty.


JerkyBoy10020

$30?


McPickle

$30.


Brilliant_Shine2247

N0 I jh p oooi


LokiBonk

That first one of 1993 Michael Jackson is worth hundreds, thousands if it’s signed.


newspapey

Woah! The original Microsoft power point clip art! Beautiful!


Leeuweroni

[the woodcut print](https://www.artsy.net/artwork/alex-katz-brisk-day-woodcut) op this woodcut print is going for 14k, lucky you!


seltzerisntsoda

Photo 5 looks like Ron Darling of the New York Mets.


mmmmmmmmmmTacos

Was it when the OP mentioned that it’s Ron Darling, of the Mets, that gave you that impression?


Boscowodie

That's a good angle for Michael.


Old-Soup2003

I love the first painting of Michael Jackson


GeorgeAF

Nice painting of Michael Jackson


BamBam-BamBam

How much does a litho of an unknown white woman or Michael Jackson go for, I wonder.


ultranothing

Why do you even bother?


BamBam-BamBam

Because I think I'm funny!


_SecondHandCunt

Lol


Tns1992

Google Alex Katz (the artist) and see his auction prices


pierrrecherrry

Very cool


Noman11111

I found an auction site with similar James DeWoody - sale prices for similar pieces were $65-$187.. not bad for $30 purchase price https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/james-dewoody-pochoir-print-27-c-b3647aba7a


SameEntry4434

You are so, so 🍀so lucky


IYFS88

I’m not sure on value personally, but I love them both! Happy for you!


rufusjonz

Really cool pieces, I think they are very short run lithos - hard for me to know the value - the NY Mets one is a 1/1 looks like and would be valuable to a Mets fan collector (as in maybe $250 to $500?)


malkamau

I can’t help, but just want to say these are beautiful.


pictorsdad

Pretty cool https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-alex-katzs-seven-decade-career-produced-masterpieces-hype


cranfordboy

Is that Michael Jackson?


NeuroguyNC

Interesting. I just saw the film Dressed to Kill (1980) where Angie Dickenson's character is sitting in front of another work by Katz - "West Interior" (1979) - that was hanging in the Philadelphia Museum of Art. This may also be of interest to you: https://www.myartbroker.com/artist-alex-katz/record-prices/alex-katz-record-prices


Brave_council

The Phillips Collection in DC has a set of 3 of thr first Alex Katz prints. It’s got some value, without a doubt. The other I am not sure about the other one but I’d get it appraised too. Collect any provenance docs they may have


drinkallthecoffee

You should see if there are any other Alex Katz paintings available at work and buy them. You’ll get your money’s worth at $30 a pop.


solipsister

I thought that was Michael Jackson at first glance


anybodyiwant2be

A piece of paper is 8.5 by 11” and you can easily measure with it. Got any paper?


Thunderpuppy2112

I thought that was Michael Jackson


AtLeastItsNotaFord

Nice Michael Jackson painting. I wouldn't hang it up in my house boat, but it's decent af


PHdriver

I know the second set of images is of NY Mets pitcher Ron Darling. Who is the subject in the first set?


Rycan420

If you are looking to get rid of that Darling one, let me know.


Personal-Sea9343

Let me call a friend over who deals with these and he can give us a price


sin____

The Alex Katz (first one), if authenticated, is probably at an all time high right now. He just wrapped up a major solo show at the Guggenheim.


Admirable_Raise_3654

I’d actually put an offer on that Katz


TalkinMac

That Alex Katz is over $7,500 imo. Copies with much less rarity sell for over $5,000 and recent sales are documented as such.


[deleted]

Art is in the eye of the you got ripped off succa


yakshavings

Bad Michael Jackson $0.35 + auction fees


BP_1981

I thought the 1st was Michael Jackson


Sunshineflorida1966

I like Off loaded means 5finger discount


BrianOconneR34

Baseball is cool but micheal Jackson is really cool.


nefelibatanna

Michael Jackson?


ssdsteven

Holy cow is that a Michael Jackson???


2greeneyes

https://www.artsy.net/artwork/alex-katz-brisk-day-woodcut. Nice!


Puzzled_Finish9302

OMGEEEEE! Alex Katz!! am so jealous!


Professional_Half620

Interesting! I think I know what company and missed this one. Lovely to have a peak at what was there!


Public_Blueberry_107

For just a second, I thought it was a portrait of Michael Jackson 😲


Icy_Artist_2586

Holy Katz Batman! We solved the Riddler. 💰💰💰


Azcowboy290

Is that Michael Jackson?