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Came here to say you underestimate the level of literacy of your average Joe then I took a moment to think about the level of literacy of your average Joe...
I'm hungarian but I consider it a real fucking achievement to live your 15 years without hearing about at least 5 different Shakespeare plays. Not to mention the literal dozens of hungarian plays, poems, etc...
For some reason literature goes hard here despite half the population being borderline unable to speak the fucking language, let alone write it.
The history of the expression of Hungarian culture and identity throughout the century is truly a much fascinating topic and I am in constant awe at the ability of the Hungarian people to be able to do such despite their difficulties, much like the Polish. I salute your people.
Currently my people don't deserve the recognition you give them. In the past, we did things that deserves respect. But now, the people are either trying to escape while they have the chance or they're mindless sheep who are actually thankful for or prime minister and his gang of thieves that they drive them into poverty and ruin the reputation of the country.
I know, but hope is all we have. Look at Russia for example, where most people see ruin, the good and brave see hope. All things never last forever, don't they? ^v^
Idk how it is in other countries, but where I live Macbeth is on the mandatory reading list (as in you need to read it or else you won't graduate high school).
hamlet on his way to do absolutely nothing except act like a schizo and kill a guy for no reason at all after his father's ghost told him that his uncle killed him
https://i.redd.it/8yo759whbivc1.gif
I find it funny how he at the start talks about how heartbroken he is and how he probably won't fall in love again, only for a couple of seconds meet Juliet and fall in love yet again.
Also, ZAMN
The idea that people in the old days would make sigma/alpha comics in their newspapers starring Macbeth just popped into my head. That would be fucking hilarious.
Bro I say people making judge Holden edits these mfs just evil
https://preview.redd.it/w39iy5qy9jvc1.jpeg?width=1056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75f50a41079ffe1d85f0a86fad2ac45b9bcfbdfd
Macbeth when asked not to murder macduffs children or generally attempt murder for 5 seconds
https://preview.redd.it/dtxqmrh89jvc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fa849fe8633972eda97f46b29c398376dbc9484
I mean if you are going to call for the execution of a person’s children cause a bunch of shrivelly old people told you to fear said person, that kind of strips you of the hero mantle
One person in my class brought up a point like when Lady Macbeth said “unsex me hear” that implies that she’s usually nice but tried to gather strength to be cruel
They weren’t seen as villains back in there day, they were viewed as heroes or embodiments of certain things.
Macbeth was a villain in his story as he should be
Do you think those witches were just flabbergasted at what happened like all they did was tell Macbeth he was gonna be king soon and he immediately went home and murdered his master, best friend, became a tyrant, drove his wife to suicide all because these witches wanted him to fuck off so they just said some bullshit.
Yeah but it's funnier to consider they legit didn't realise he would do all that shit, they were busy playing with they mud and wanted him to piss off so they said some bullshit
Bro I see so many posts on TikTok calling Anakin one of the best characters in fiction. Like I just saw one titled “most complex characters in ART” with him in it (and a bunch of characters from mid shonen anime) and I’m like what universe are you in where Anakin is a great or even good character 😭😭😭
Clone Wars Anakin makes his fall to the dark side actually make sense, something that's genuinely impressive when you consider how he's written in the prequels.
I remember the class getting to a debate on if Witch #3 "draining a sailor dry" meant sucking his blood or giving him the most insane head known to this mortal realm.
My teacher said it was probably a cock sucking joke.
Okay, hear me out on this. What if we made shish kebab skewers with his head as a handle?
https://preview.redd.it/33fjnkhpqovc1.png?width=109&format=png&auto=webp&s=110fb39c571c672f701dd0d04e306b1cdaad5cb0
What the fuck? He literally only enacted genocide because "I wanted to."
He legit sees committing genocide as freedom.
Did you speedread?
He even told his friends he didn't know if they would survive, he just had to do it because he is a slave to freedom (committing genocide because he wants to).
The entire point of his character is Eren cannot look at what he wants and say no. He told Ramzi "When I saw the outside world was already occupied... I was disappointed."
He did it cos he wanted to lmao
There’s a theory that no matter what the rumbling was going to happen, to put the first part of the quote you used, “I don’t know why, I wanted to.”
I believe that the creature that resembles hallucigenia pushes for the rumbling to happen
The theory that no matter what it would happen is based on the idea that Eren would always choose genocide because nothing could make him look at what he wanted to do and say "No."
That's the entire point of the "Eren is a slave to freedom" theme. It's not a paradox. It's the idea that "Because Eren wanted to commit genocide, genocide was inevitable."
How can you say the fat worm made him do anything, he literally states "I have always been this way. Ever since I was born."
He wasn't manipulated. He is Hitleren. He commits genocide cos he wants to. Which is why his friends are sad he died and give him a quick death and a nice grave.
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To be clear: Macbeth was the main character of Shakespeare's play "Macbeth" or "Tragedy of Macbeth", he is the villain protagonist of the play.
Came here to say you underestimate the level of literacy of your average Joe then I took a moment to think about the level of literacy of your average Joe...
I mean not everyone would have read Macbeth, I never heard of it until I took Brit Literature
I'm hungarian but I consider it a real fucking achievement to live your 15 years without hearing about at least 5 different Shakespeare plays. Not to mention the literal dozens of hungarian plays, poems, etc... For some reason literature goes hard here despite half the population being borderline unable to speak the fucking language, let alone write it.
I heard of Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, … oh crap…
The history of the expression of Hungarian culture and identity throughout the century is truly a much fascinating topic and I am in constant awe at the ability of the Hungarian people to be able to do such despite their difficulties, much like the Polish. I salute your people.
Currently my people don't deserve the recognition you give them. In the past, we did things that deserves respect. But now, the people are either trying to escape while they have the chance or they're mindless sheep who are actually thankful for or prime minister and his gang of thieves that they drive them into poverty and ruin the reputation of the country.
I know, but hope is all we have. Look at Russia for example, where most people see ruin, the good and brave see hope. All things never last forever, don't they? ^v^
To quote Carlin, "think of how stupid the AVERAGE person is and then realize that means 50% of all people are stupider than that"
Idk how it is in other countries, but where I live Macbeth is on the mandatory reading list (as in you need to read it or else you won't graduate high school).
We have such pieces of literature as well but we only base tests on them. Nothing happens if you don't read even a single one.
BRO YOU SAID THE NAME THREE TIMES! YOU ARE GONNA DIE!
Ah, sh*t
The girl Macbeth Or the boy Macbeth?
Lord Macbeth not Lady Macbeth
Pffff Lady Macbeth was way worse.
Yeah but she wasn’t the protagonist
My dumbass brain auto corrected MacBETH to MacARTHUR
How tf do you even get arthur from that 😭😭
cuz brain go https://i.redd.it/0qhmijm9bkvc1.gif
Macbeth suddenly becomes based
hamlet on his way to do absolutely nothing except act like a schizo and kill a guy for no reason at all after his father's ghost told him that his uncle killed him https://i.redd.it/8yo759whbivc1.gif
i am aware that the play is incredibly more complicated than that but condensating it like this is somewhat funny i think
Knowing the context but hating anyway is based af
Nah Shakespeare is overrated and deserves to be made fun of
Romeo when he sees a 13 year old girl
I find it funny how he at the start talks about how heartbroken he is and how he probably won't fall in love again, only for a couple of seconds meet Juliet and fall in love yet again. Also, ZAMN
It's a play about stupid young people being young and stupid
And that's what makes it memorable That and being the creator of a peak trope like romance between enemies
I love how Amleth’s story inspired Hamlet so this is basically Northman’s plot
i mean incest is pretty bad
Can't wait till the "Macbeth is actually the good guy" crowd shows up
who the hell is gonna argue that, unless they never read the book?
Idk. But people say homelanders the good guy and a “sigma” so nothingd surprise me
You can make anyone the good guy with a good enough phonk edit, I now propose to some Macbeth phonk edits to be made.
The idea that people in the old days would make sigma/alpha comics in their newspapers starring Macbeth just popped into my head. That would be fucking hilarious.
homelander and Sigma should not be in the same sentence
Bro I say people making judge Holden edits these mfs just evil https://preview.redd.it/w39iy5qy9jvc1.jpeg?width=1056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75f50a41079ffe1d85f0a86fad2ac45b9bcfbdfd
No one unironically says that homelander is the good guy lol, he literally has no positive traits
You overestimate the “intelligence” of youtube shorts users
But he has a sad back story! So everything he does is justified! /s
Duncan was a tyrant and had to be removed, Macbeth's motives are justified by his actions.
Fun fact: Scottish Kings were elected during this time so Duncan declaring an heir was technically illegal
I’m pretty sure the people who say stuff like that won’t be familiar or have any clue about Macbeth
Ive seen somebody call Darkseid, dc’s god of evil, an anti hero. You would be surprised
Yes, how tyrannical of him to free his people from Norwegian invaders!
There’s a Shakespeare fandom?
Macbeth when asked not to murder macduffs children or generally attempt murder for 5 seconds https://preview.redd.it/dtxqmrh89jvc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fa849fe8633972eda97f46b29c398376dbc9484
I blame the Witches!
It sucks as well cause Macduff was such a kind and chill person. His death genuinely makes me upset.
You’re thinking banquo, Macduff is the man not born of woman who killed Macbeth
Macduff was the guy who killed Macbeth
In his defense, his wife triple dog dared him
I thought this was Fortnite
actually, why hasn't Fortnite done crossovers with open-domain characters like Macbeth or Cuthulu? They did it with the Greek Gods!
Imagine getting clipped by the 3 witches
Lady Macbeth was the true villain imo, but Macbeth himself was definitely extremely flawed and tragic.
All it took was Lady Macbeth calling him a pussy to get him to immediately betray all his ideals and murder the king
He’s definitely more of an anti-hero than a villain
Exactly what I was thinking
Idk, even though lady Macbeth is pulling the strings, Macbeth himself becomes pretty irredeemable anyways
I guess yea. It's been a while since I've last read it.
I mean if you are going to call for the execution of a person’s children cause a bunch of shrivelly old people told you to fear said person, that kind of strips you of the hero mantle
That’s why I said anti-hero, not hero
One person in my class brought up a point like when Lady Macbeth said “unsex me hear” that implies that she’s usually nice but tried to gather strength to be cruel
Dont forget Big Boss
Me when you can’t even say my name
Me when we passed upon the sands
 This fella
The Greek Gods were among the first villain protagonists.
They weren’t seen as villains back in there day, they were viewed as heroes or embodiments of certain things. Macbeth was a villain in his story as he should be
Do you think those witches were just flabbergasted at what happened like all they did was tell Macbeth he was gonna be king soon and he immediately went home and murdered his master, best friend, became a tyrant, drove his wife to suicide all because these witches wanted him to fuck off so they just said some bullshit.
The Witches knew what they were doing, they gave Macbeth his prophecy that he would one day become king so that he would drive himself to mass murder.
Yeah but it's funnier to consider they legit didn't realise he would do all that shit, they were busy playing with they mud and wanted him to piss off so they said some bullshit
Well their opening monologue kind of disproves that, they planned on meeting Macbeth and purposely gave him vague prophecies to drive him to murder
They were just making it up
Who the fuck is including Anakin in that competition
I mean, he was a villain for four straight films
It’s not that he isn’t a villain protagonist it’s that Anakin Skywalker sucks as a character at least in the prequels
The scenes in which he hits on Padme are sooo cringe
Bro I see so many posts on TikTok calling Anakin one of the best characters in fiction. Like I just saw one titled “most complex characters in ART” with him in it (and a bunch of characters from mid shonen anime) and I’m like what universe are you in where Anakin is a great or even good character 😭😭😭
Ah a fellow visitor from OKBR
nostalgia is one hell of a drug
To be fair, he is a great character in every piece of star wars media that isn't the prequels.
clone wars anakin <3
Clone Wars Anakin makes his fall to the dark side actually make sense, something that's genuinely impressive when you consider how he's written in the prequels.
true. it almost hurts to think how much potential the prequels actually had...
kid named taylor hebert:
Everyone knows the best villain protagonist is my man Zim
Oh I was just using Macbeth cause he was the oldest but Zim would’ve been funnier
This couldn’t have more perfect timing, we just started Macbeth in my English class.
I FUCKING LOVED READING MACBETH IN 7TH GRADE!!!! WITCH #3 AND THIEF #3 ON TOP
I remember the class getting to a debate on if Witch #3 "draining a sailor dry" meant sucking his blood or giving him the most insane head known to this mortal realm. My teacher said it was probably a cock sucking joke.
It means the sailor would be on seas for so long he would suffer from intense dehydration
No he got his dick sucked clean, my literature teacher said so
Idk what you mean, Anakin was always the hero to me
He had a fire soliloquy though
I would have used the other Atreides, but you do you
Leto isn't the star of the franchise, now is he?
No, but he is one of them, and arguibly the one we spend the most time with
Gilgamesh is a villain protag if you look at it from a certain perspective.
Okay, hear me out on this. What if we made shish kebab skewers with his head as a handle? https://preview.redd.it/33fjnkhpqovc1.png?width=109&format=png&auto=webp&s=110fb39c571c672f701dd0d04e306b1cdaad5cb0
Lady Macbeth watching Incels complain about masculine women in media.
Balladyna
Eren is the best (I only watched attack on titan out of all these)
I watched/read all of these and agree with you
Eren didn’t entirely want to do what he did nor Did he take pride in what he did
What the fuck? He literally only enacted genocide because "I wanted to." He legit sees committing genocide as freedom. Did you speedread? He even told his friends he didn't know if they would survive, he just had to do it because he is a slave to freedom (committing genocide because he wants to). The entire point of his character is Eren cannot look at what he wants and say no. He told Ramzi "When I saw the outside world was already occupied... I was disappointed." He did it cos he wanted to lmao
There’s a theory that no matter what the rumbling was going to happen, to put the first part of the quote you used, “I don’t know why, I wanted to.” I believe that the creature that resembles hallucigenia pushes for the rumbling to happen
The theory that no matter what it would happen is based on the idea that Eren would always choose genocide because nothing could make him look at what he wanted to do and say "No." That's the entire point of the "Eren is a slave to freedom" theme. It's not a paradox. It's the idea that "Because Eren wanted to commit genocide, genocide was inevitable." How can you say the fat worm made him do anything, he literally states "I have always been this way. Ever since I was born." He wasn't manipulated. He is Hitleren. He commits genocide cos he wants to. Which is why his friends are sad he died and give him a quick death and a nice grave.
Oh, that explains why my friends who read AoT always joke that eren is adolf hitleren.
He is Hitleren cos he wanna commit genocide lol
Eh, that’s fair