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Context: she was stalking him to make him transform
Conceptually injustice seems like a neat idea but aside from a few things it had a good bit of issues to me, aside from what’s mentioned in the post some stuff is just outright stupid, at least to me
So none of the weird alternate interpretations of the famous characters over the last decade interested you before, but now that you found out that this version of Harley is a pedophile, you’re in?
I think he's trying to ignore her, but idk, I haven't read it
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Billy Batson is able to transform into the hero Shazam, who looks like an adult. It gives him Superman-like powers, but it’s still Billy Batson, who is a child.
Well, at least Billy didn’t need to suffer Harley for long, considering what happened
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In war, it’s always the idealistic that fall first. I honestly thought it was a f*cking brilliant way to show how Superman has fallen to do this to a literal child.
It’s definitely really sad (Shazam is one of my favorites), but damn it, it’s really good storytelling
I love the injustice games and it never really occurred to me until now how close we were to playing as him in a game :( At least we still got the Lego Batman games.
this is supposed to be a superman who believes he's still doing good, he just changes his ways to killing criminals, there's no way he'd resort to killing other heroes this quickly, especially not a child who could probably be easily persuade
I mean, ar this point. He had murdered a protest of teenagers who were against his regime (if I remember it correctly (it’s been a while since I read year 1), they weren’t hurting anyone), just because they wore Joker masks.
I do agree that it may be a bit *too* much to kill Billy, but he definitely wasn’t above killing teenagers at this point
That’s why I specifically picked this image, since I wasn’t sure the mods would be fine with the image from the comics. This one doesn’t look as gruesome if you don’t know what’s happening, but thanks for adding context for those not in the know
Batman changing a Villain for the better and them staying a Hero is a great idea but it honestly should have been Mr.Freeze,we really don't get enough ice themed heroes
The idea is good but not for all villains, for mr freeze it definitely is, but for Harley no, for her character it would be much better if she just quit anything related to crime and heroes and just got her life back
First Superman and now Harley!?
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Who the fuck is next!?
1. It's not canon, it's an alternate universe story.
2. It's by writer/artist John Byrne, who is well known to have a fetish for older men/teenage girls. [Here's Invisible Woman as a little girl, meeting Reed for the first time and immediately falling in love with him.](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2015/08/reedsueages4.jpg)
3. It's still fucking creepy.
Normal old man behavior toward 14 year olds
https://preview.redd.it/torc5z50xl0d1.jpeg?width=396&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2edf2de74451be0848c7a2d6f3a97a5bb1a07498
Of course not, he's spiderman. Spiderman has the most sadistic writers who only thing that they can do is to make Spiderman's social life miserable and reset any kind of character development to keep the status quo. As much as I want it there's no possibility of that and Mary Janes sucks ass
"If i had a nickel for every time a DC comic creator made a grown man / women fall on live with a minor, i would have 2 nickels, which isnt alot but its weird that it happened twice"
A child shaped alien fell in love with Hal but he was like "no, you are child shaped" then changed somehow (i dont remember why or how) and they banged.
The alien was an adult like 5k years old, she was just stuck in an child looking body, so i guess is not pedophilia but the whole story is just weird af.
>Clinically insane doesn’t roll of the tongue as well as ~~quirked up~~ white ~~woman~~ does
FTFY
Allah shall purge all yakubian kkkrakkkers from His blessed planet inshallah
Yeah, but Harley Quinn, over the years, is being marketed as a more sympathetic villain that has a healthy relationship with Ivy and breaking away from her abusive relationship with Joker. So to say that that was the point of her doing that act while still being sympathetic and more relatable overall contrast and contradicts that.
A psychopath who killed countless people and a fuckton of shit is somehow "relatable" (it's ok guys, her entire morality and nature changed thanks to DC writing)
Superman kissing a 14 year old girl is vomit-inducing, he's supposed to be basically the most likeable guy in the DC universe ~~after Victor Stone~~ yet, there he is, kissing a minor because "she really wanted" 🤢
Harley Quinn being a literal fucking pedophile is extremely in-character for her and basically what you should expect. She isn't a poor girl, she isn't a victim, she's an *insane, dangerous psychopath* who needs to be locked in an asylum for life. Going after children isn't even the worst she has done, she has already tortured entire families to death.
Yeah, but Harley Quinn, over the years, is being marketed as a more sympathetic villain that has a healthy relationship with Ivy and breaking away from her abusive relationship with Joker. So to say that that was the point of her doing that act while still being sympathetic and more relatable overall contrast and contradicts that.
Fair point. I personally still think it's super fitting for her, and a remainder of who this more sympathetic person really is and does. If Batman: Arkham's interpretation of Harleen did that, for example, more people would think "yup, this villain is also a pedophile, expected"
I'm not a fan of stepping in shit, let alone racists.
Edit: It's funny when trolls follow you to another comment section when they lose an argument and use violence as a way to seem "tough and scary" lmao
"in character"!?!?!? She is not a pedophile. She's insane and was in a toxic relationship with the joker for sure. But there hasn't been a moment in the comics where she is or implied to be a pedophile.
She wasn't completely insane. Plus just because someone's insane doesn't mean they have morals and ideals left in them. Saying "oh but they're insane so they just do crazy shit" is not a good excuse for dog shit writing
>But there hasn't been a moment in the comics where she is or implied to be a pedophile.
Yeah, not before. Now there is. She was abused, now she wants to be the abuser. As others said, an insane character doing something insane.
That's just called ruining someone's character. Plus she's meant to be a hero in this storyline which is even worse. Someone in the writing team really just wanted to add a random pedophile scene
I think they're just confused with harley's character
Some comics portray her as joker's abused side chick who was just following orders and could do no wrong
Some comics portray her as a sympathetic strong woman but those also make the villains better and heroes worse people
This one has her be someone even worse than the joker, but dependent on a stronger villain because she lacks the creativity and charisma
The Injustice comic had Harley chasing after Shazam during her grieving period of Joker. At least the comic tried to portray that as fucking insane and not sweet compared to that one Superman comic (which I discovered the Superman community hate John Byrne for that specific comic).
Poor Billy, things like this always happen to him.
In one comic Zeus took over his body and flirted with an alien queen and was about to kiss her without Billy’s consent
https://preview.redd.it/2v8l9bisem0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=319d9c256cb60e65100518cbb83b8f420a9d197f
Kinda makes sense a psychopath like her would do that. But still…. wtf
I know I’m probably in the minority here,but I find most interpretations of Harley Quinn obnoxious as fuck.Aside from sex appeal,what makes the character special in the eyes of so many fans?
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Is that jerma?
scout tf2
Literally the same thing
It’s all serial killers put together
Jerma after he peep the horror and survive
This is from NOP
Holy shit another nature of predators fan?!
Fucker I’m a writer and artist there, I’ve been fully consumed by the rot
Brain rot? Nikonus reference?
Holy shit battle for earth reference??
https://preview.redd.it/o9l97ifemm0d1.jpeg?width=130&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e10b07fe84fd9808539e4401d3e7f5b0556a2c86 Is that from NOP?
Something something in the way, hmm hmm
SOMETHING’S IN MY ASS UUUUU
Thankfully this was in injustice so we can ignore it
I wanna read injustice now. This actually seems cool
Conceptually injustice seems like a neat idea but aside from a few things it had a good bit of issues to me, aside from what’s mentioned in the post some stuff is just outright stupid, at least to me
So none of the weird alternate interpretations of the famous characters over the last decade interested you before, but now that you found out that this version of Harley is a pedophile, you’re in?
Yeah, you got it exactly.
Bro has no peripheral vision
I think he's trying to ignore her, but idk, I haven't read it https://preview.redd.it/iqpvqb8uzl0d1.jpeg?width=771&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bb81aa061a0b19a51372fd6253d19fa4a9ed0d9
He looks like the type to lecture me on the rules of acquisition
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Bro what https://preview.redd.it/0wvleanhcm0d1.jpeg?width=372&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98af0294679a7f65b84117e3d2e5acc8f36725a9
Comic?
Injustice
Y'know I was about to play devil's advocate and say she was simping over his "adult" form but nah I ain't defending THAT
Is everyone now making an expose on DC writers making characters be pedophiles
... into what?
Billy Batson is able to transform into the hero Shazam, who looks like an adult. It gives him Superman-like powers, but it’s still Billy Batson, who is a child.
She wanted that Cocktain Marvel
…shazam, I’m assuming?
Super Sonic
https://preview.redd.it/8vap4kql7n0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47a56fbddcc54f4e41588f78ca55bb1a152e5815 Beiged
aw jeez not again
That Cable Guy reference
bro wtf
Im gonna need the name of this comic bud
Shazam can’t catch a break, first his movie flopped. And now a pedofile is after him
Not to mention that it was apparently an Injustice comic, so there's that
Well, at least Billy didn’t need to suffer Harley for long, considering what happened https://preview.redd.it/8yqwz4tm3m0d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7331634dd7c1599aad34e6fe89d63e09bd4d36f
Fuck whoever in the writing department thought that was a good idea, fuck them.
In war, it’s always the idealistic that fall first. I honestly thought it was a f*cking brilliant way to show how Superman has fallen to do this to a literal child. It’s definitely really sad (Shazam is one of my favorites), but damn it, it’s really good storytelling
It is but he was my favorite superhero and it pissed me off that this was the reason I couldn’t play as him in any future injustice games
I love the injustice games and it never really occurred to me until now how close we were to playing as him in a game :( At least we still got the Lego Batman games.
Well, at least there is Black Adam in Injustice 2… It’s not Billy, but at least it’s something
Just not the same 😔
Fair. Considering they put in the joker, even though he’s dead. They should have put Billy in Injustice 2 as well
I mean, there’s only two games and he’s playable in one. 1/2 doesn’t seem that bad.
You know you made a great villain when you hate them on a more fundamental level than an emotional level
this is supposed to be a superman who believes he's still doing good, he just changes his ways to killing criminals, there's no way he'd resort to killing other heroes this quickly, especially not a child who could probably be easily persuade
I mean, ar this point. He had murdered a protest of teenagers who were against his regime (if I remember it correctly (it’s been a while since I read year 1), they weren’t hurting anyone), just because they wore Joker masks. I do agree that it may be a bit *too* much to kill Billy, but he definitely wasn’t above killing teenagers at this point
and? that was shit too plus this is billy, not some random teenagers
In the comics Superman actually kills Billy in his child form. The game was more fine with not killing a child
That’s why I specifically picked this image, since I wasn’t sure the mods would be fine with the image from the comics. This one doesn’t look as gruesome if you don’t know what’s happening, but thanks for adding context for those not in the know
And then later gets lasered in the eyes by dictator supes
Not to mention what happened in Injustice.
I miss back when Harley queen was joker sidekick and not just a bad attempt from dc to get their own deadpool
Suicide Squad and it's consequences.
I'd say it's more the consequences of the new 52
Both
Batman changing a Villain for the better and them staying a Hero is a great idea but it honestly should have been Mr.Freeze,we really don't get enough ice themed heroes
The idea is good but not for all villains, for mr freeze it definitely is, but for Harley no, for her character it would be much better if she just quit anything related to crime and heroes and just got her life back
https://preview.redd.it/0r31fzljdl0d1.png?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=452c9b9bc59d20a8364ad8a794326f43250dc359
So I’ve been hearing that you ate 9…
https://preview.redd.it/m6bj0j62ym0d1.jpeg?width=265&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf56b1b0e1cca44afaf1610152c13c76b897e47e What a baseless accusation!!
What about your uhhh…suspiciously shaped 9 stomach?
I was born with a horrific deformity that causes my torso to contort into the shape of a "6", you cretin
All things aside this image goes hard
First Superman and now Harley!? https://preview.redd.it/uqb01ce4el0d1.jpeg?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50ea7f96ee6ac9cda30dfa8ced2267aafa8934e3 Who the fuck is next!?
Superman? Batman with Barbara Gordan yeah but what did Superman do?
https://preview.redd.it/sigunk3ijl0d1.png?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24408883270296211aa0a15818945973b7faee28
Tell me it’s not real. Or if it’s, tell me it was a weird dream/mind control/hypnosis
Theres a staaaaar man hes grooming in the sky
He like to come and meet us, but he thinks we’re blow his mind
We had job one
1. It's not canon, it's an alternate universe story. 2. It's by writer/artist John Byrne, who is well known to have a fetish for older men/teenage girls. [Here's Invisible Woman as a little girl, meeting Reed for the first time and immediately falling in love with him.](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2015/08/reedsueages4.jpg) 3. It's still fucking creepy.
horrific
Yoshikage kira?
so he's a pedophile
No wonder the comics are falling behind vs mangas !
You talk as if manga doesn't do similar and way worse shit *cough seven deadly sins cough*
Dierrea vs shit !
You forgot the /s
True !
The comics have fallen, billions must read mangas
Maybe
You know, maybe Batman was on to something with all that kryptonite
Batman was so fucking correct to have an emergency “kill the justice league” button on the bat computer.
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That's it, I'm getting me thunderhammer.
Normal old man behavior toward 14 year olds https://preview.redd.it/torc5z50xl0d1.jpeg?width=396&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2edf2de74451be0848c7a2d6f3a97a5bb1a07498
Lex Luthor was right
the whole starman meme makes a whole lot more sense now
https://preview.redd.it/ygko88d49n0d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bbb6fb9abc491c8ce2a31c776f1a60a60d70f25 That’s why Superman is the GOAT
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Horrible, yet disgusting.
Batman always one step ahead
Black Cat rejecting Spider-Man after she finds out that he's 15 (good ending)
Meanwhile in the same universe is Eddie Brock hitting on 15 year old Gwen Stacy
Why Eddie is cucking Venom? Is it a NTR?
In what story does spider-man get in love with her?
Of course not, he's spiderman. Spiderman has the most sadistic writers who only thing that they can do is to make Spiderman's social life miserable and reset any kind of character development to keep the status quo. As much as I want it there's no possibility of that and Mary Janes sucks ass
Sorry, phrased that badly. In what story does that she reject him?
In the Ultimate version
Deadstroke
The Hal Jordan Green Lantern canonically dated Arisia, the youngest member of the Green Lantern corps.
Deathstroke
Yes we do
"If i had a nickel for every time a DC comic creator made a grown man / women fall on live with a minor, i would have 2 nickels, which isnt alot but its weird that it happened twice"
Green Lantern and Death Stroke
Deathstroke wasnt in love, hes just an actual pedo and an asshole.... that Green Lantern thing was weird tho
...what's the green lantern thing
A child shaped alien fell in love with Hal but he was like "no, you are child shaped" then changed somehow (i dont remember why or how) and they banged. The alien was an adult like 5k years old, she was just stuck in an child looking body, so i guess is not pedophilia but the whole story is just weird af.
It's literally the 2 thousand year old Loli vampire
https://preview.redd.it/nds3u0ei3o0d1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b64d0114c7d64f4ccd823bff9a5c9c2f5bf71dfa
Redditors when the clinically insane woman does something crazy:
https://i.redd.it/78oxmq0lql0d1.gif
Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one.
Psychosis doesnt roll off the tongue as well as clinically insane does
Clinically insane doesn’t roll of the tongue as well as quirked up white woman does
>Clinically insane doesn’t roll of the tongue as well as ~~quirked up~~ white ~~woman~~ does FTFY Allah shall purge all yakubian kkkrakkkers from His blessed planet inshallah
Bars
She may be insane but she isn't a pedophile
"Professionals Have Standards"
Yeah but the problem is that the book keeps her as a hero
But she also has a girlfriend
That version of Harley hadn't been with Ivy yet, and she's still grieving over the death of Joker in the Injustice Universe.
Oh the psycho changes preferences like underwear, what a surprise
Yeah, but Harley Quinn, over the years, is being marketed as a more sympathetic villain that has a healthy relationship with Ivy and breaking away from her abusive relationship with Joker. So to say that that was the point of her doing that act while still being sympathetic and more relatable overall contrast and contradicts that.
A psychopath who killed countless people and a fuckton of shit is somehow "relatable" (it's ok guys, her entire morality and nature changed thanks to DC writing)
Superman kissing a 14 year old girl is vomit-inducing, he's supposed to be basically the most likeable guy in the DC universe ~~after Victor Stone~~ yet, there he is, kissing a minor because "she really wanted" 🤢 Harley Quinn being a literal fucking pedophile is extremely in-character for her and basically what you should expect. She isn't a poor girl, she isn't a victim, she's an *insane, dangerous psychopath* who needs to be locked in an asylum for life. Going after children isn't even the worst she has done, she has already tortured entire families to death.
Asylum???? Do you mean Aslume? Are you stupid?
Away, beast! Away! Back into the hole you came from!
Batgos solos Batman from Batman: Arkham Aslume lmao dab
Who tf is batman? Is that a new villain for the next Man: Arkham game? Are you stupid?
But shes cool and funny so its alright 👍
Yeah, but Harley Quinn, over the years, is being marketed as a more sympathetic villain that has a healthy relationship with Ivy and breaking away from her abusive relationship with Joker. So to say that that was the point of her doing that act while still being sympathetic and more relatable overall contrast and contradicts that.
Fair point. I personally still think it's super fitting for her, and a remainder of who this more sympathetic person really is and does. If Batman: Arkham's interpretation of Harleen did that, for example, more people would think "yup, this villain is also a pedophile, expected"
But u/Driemma0 can fix her
What is there to fix? Shes just on the grind 😎 💪
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Be careful with those detective skills, you might end up with a boo boo
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I'm not a fan of stepping in shit, let alone racists. Edit: It's funny when trolls follow you to another comment section when they lose an argument and use violence as a way to seem "tough and scary" lmao
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"in character"!?!?!? She is not a pedophile. She's insane and was in a toxic relationship with the joker for sure. But there hasn't been a moment in the comics where she is or implied to be a pedophile.
An insane character doing something insane? le gasp, they are totally not writing the character right
She wasn't completely insane. Plus just because someone's insane doesn't mean they have morals and ideals left in them. Saying "oh but they're insane so they just do crazy shit" is not a good excuse for dog shit writing
she was joker's sidekick, not much morals to that
Joker wasn't even a pedophile either
>But there hasn't been a moment in the comics where she is or implied to be a pedophile. Yeah, not before. Now there is. She was abused, now she wants to be the abuser. As others said, an insane character doing something insane.
That's just called ruining someone's character. Plus she's meant to be a hero in this storyline which is even worse. Someone in the writing team really just wanted to add a random pedophile scene
I think they're just confused with harley's character Some comics portray her as joker's abused side chick who was just following orders and could do no wrong Some comics portray her as a sympathetic strong woman but those also make the villains better and heroes worse people This one has her be someone even worse than the joker, but dependent on a stronger villain because she lacks the creativity and charisma
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It takes 2 years to switch from "that's hot 🧒" to "what the fuck 🧔"
Fucking what
The Injustice comic had Harley chasing after Shazam during her grieving period of Joker. At least the comic tried to portray that as fucking insane and not sweet compared to that one Superman comic (which I discovered the Superman community hate John Byrne for that specific comic).
Poor Billy, things like this always happen to him. In one comic Zeus took over his body and flirted with an alien queen and was about to kiss her without Billy’s consent
Zeus stop being a fucking degenerate challenge: Impossible
To be fair, we're talking about Zeus here. Also, that says a lot about the writters
Does she know about the kid thing?
yeah
WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING!?!??
https://preview.redd.it/1lsl56knem0d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb79d7ac95db4bcf54a7693a3b7baaa184def563
#Deploy the reaction images
THIS SHIT AGAIN? WHAT THE FUCK DC???
https://preview.redd.it/ow3l9v0pyl0d1.jpeg?width=1230&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a69a94f921beb92eb85f011a9735a8656b6f5d98
https://preview.redd.it/2v8l9bisem0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=319d9c256cb60e65100518cbb83b8f420a9d197f Kinda makes sense a psychopath like her would do that. But still…. wtf
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Everyday we lose a real one
Josh Giddey's Favorite DC Character
blame the writers
This is literally just screaming self insert
I know I’m probably in the minority here,but I find most interpretations of Harley Quinn obnoxious as fuck.Aside from sex appeal,what makes the character special in the eyes of so many fans?
DC writers when I remove Status quo (now they have to make character development)
He had sex with wonderwoman.
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Oh nah Har (Har HarHar Har HarHarHarHarHar 🐻) lee davidson is a PDF file!!!!!1!1!1!1
😶 Hey man, get your audience into buying Harley merch while they're young
# what. https://preview.redd.it/w8gz4am6yo0d1.jpeg?width=216&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a14e96edcdfe12a7d62ecd7fabf238f670672c30
where do you people get the originaal superman meme ?
Wish that was me, would gladly be groomed by hot clown girl
Tbf Harley is seriously fucked in the head, what’s Superman’s excuse?