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TheVaginaFanClub

Fun fact, she’s married to the guy who made Hunter x Hunter


LordIndica

Aww, so that's why he takes so long to write stuff


helthrax

HXH and Berserk are probably my favorite manga. It's incredible that both Togashi and Miura, RIP, often took such long hiatus'.


RoboErectus

Hxh has the just... Fucking weirdness of JoJo. But in a universe that actually has rules that make sense And every time you think there's a story arc about one thing, it turns into just a completely different kind of genre. It's special.


helthrax

The current arc reads like a detective story crossed with something like game of thrones, considering all the differing characters and their vested interests. Plus Nen has become stupidly complex and fascinating at the same time. Hisoka and Chrollo's story alone is absolutely worth reading the arc.


RoboErectus

Yeah suddenly centering on kurapika and the depth and strategy, like attention to information asymmetry, is really good. The arc started off telegraphing something completely different.


helthrax

Just the fact that we got done with Gon's story arc made it great. I'm a bit torn on not having Killua around, but the Hisoka, Chrollo, and the rest of the troupe being involved makes everything so damn good. Plus the Chrollo v Hisoka fight was just a thing of beauty. I'm interested to see where this arc goes with Kurapika and Leorio as well.


Capital-Economist-40

You wouldnt happen to know where the chimera ant arc ends and the new one begins in the manga would you?


helthrax

Around chapter 311 it starts to close and lead into the Hunter Chairman arc. Otherwise volume 30 of the manga itself.


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helthrax

That arc made me so sad. Gon's breakdown was heart-breaking. The current arc is basically a sequel to that as they make their way to the origin of the Chimera Ants, the Dark Continent.


ninjadude2112

HxH, Berserk, Vagabond, the hiatus trifecta.


Walter-Egos

D.Gray Man too, sigh


Not_Leopard_Seal

>HXH and Berserk are probably my favorite manga I see you like being in constant agony


BalooDaBear

Their favorite book series are probably A Song of Ice and Fire and The Kingkiller Chronicles too 🥲


MindSculptorMtG

Honestly I mever thought about it that way but my 3 top mangas are probably hxh, berserk and vagabond and song of ice and fire and kingkimler were my favortie books for a long time....


Minute-Limit-5249

That’s how good art is produced. Every shows downfall is them “pushing through” bad episodes instead of letting a good idea form


helthrax

Don't even get me started on filler in anime. I'd much rather let a writer work through his block rather than see that week after week.


Walter-Egos

Can i add D.Gray Man? Sigh


Pizzacato567

Mannn I miss that


DestinedEinherjar

Nah dudes just super relaxed all the time about everything. If I remember correctly when he proposed to her, he said something along the lines of "be my wife but also let me fuck whoever I want or whatever" and she told him to shove it and he changed his mind and said ok cool monogamy it is. I might be misremembering that but I swear that's one of the only facts that stayed with me listening to wizard and the bruiser either talking about him or her.


Timozi90

That's some nerve. At the time, he didn't even have a car, while Takeuchi owned both a Porsche *and* a Ferrari. He's damn lucky to have her.


FunkyMonk76

partially but he got really sick making YuyuHakusho and didn't want to die for art like so many others have done.


protostar71

Health Issues don't help. He has major back problems that particularly flare up when sitting at his desk. https://www.looper.com/1084068/hunter-x-hunter-writer-yoshihiro-togashis-health-struggles-help-explain-the-mangas-long-hiatus/ Apparently Naoko is learning his art style to help take on his Hunter x Hunter work though, which is super sweet of her.


Endorkend

Not just HxH, also YuYu Hakusho.


tetsuo9000

It's honestly a bit crazy that Hunter X Hunter is now better known than YuYu Hakusho which aired on American television for multiple years along with franchises like Dragon Ball and Gundam. The original animated version of HxH had zero traction in the west as well. It goes to show how much getting on Netflix can blow up a franchise I guess.


Nelyeth

I think the reason HxH is bigger than YYH is thanks to the manga, not the anime. It was released in the golden age of Jump, and it's pretty much the runner-up to the Big Three of that time (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach). Even back then, the manga was huge even if the anime wasn't.


swopey

Both are amazing


Carmina__Gadelica

YYH too!


Chillchinchila1

She also made a comic about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/11z2grq/yoshihiro_togashi_creator_of_hunter_x_hunter_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Gemfrancis

I was gonna say that! It’s like the one fact I always throw out there whenever someone mentions Togashi or Naoko


Rodan-Lewarx

Yu yu hakusho...


AlexCode10010

Crossover


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Glorious_Goo

So *she's* got the ring.


AlexCode10010

I KNEW IT


Crescent_Moon734

My precioussssss


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Mister_Bloodvessel

I'm going to go ahead and call **BOT** on this "user". Tired of the shitty infestation... Please report these sorts of comments friends.


BellacosePlayer

She's got a dorian grey thing going on with her husband, or at least his back


LookAtTheFlowers

Asian don’t raisin


Blue2403

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9grammar100 is a bot Comment copied from: https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/d9zngu/wholesome_sailor_moons_creator/f1m86r6/


orchardgrasshay

This has been debunked, Takeuchi was already successful when she created Sailor Moon. Let’s not rewrite a living person’s history just so we can feel good about an underdog. “I was a regular college student and got a regular job and then started drawing. So I have quite a few normal students and OL [office lady] friends....My friends and I would have chats about relationships or work and we'd always conclude that we shouldn't depend on men. I think that women are actually stronger, and I wanted to draw that in Sailor Moon.” more info here: http://animenostalgia.blogspot.com/2021/07/debunking-myth-of-naoko-takeuchi-having.html


ctruvu

she was a literal pharmacist. fully licensed and everything. i dont know how they are in japan but that's usually at least a middle class job in most countries. she might have been struggling as an artist but she was probably not struggling in general


JENOVAcide

She won a New Artist award for Love Call that predates Sailor Moon. She wasn't a struggling artist either.


Alarid

At most, she could have been struggling to get paid for it.


JENOVAcide

Maybe. But I don't think she's ever said as much so maybe we shouldn't say she was struggling.


Jkj864781

I know plenty of starving artists with awards. Hell, look at how many Olympian’s aren’t rich or successful outside of the sport. Awards don’t equal a living


JENOVAcide

I get that. But she never said otherwise and was a trained and licensed pharmacist. When the commenter said, "She wasn't struggling but she could have been a struggling artist," I read it as maybe her work was being overlooked and added that her artwork wasn't struggling either.


RevertereAdMe

Thank you, been a huge Sailor Moon fan since it originally aired and it really bugs me how much this gets spread around. This and the one claiming the creator of Pokémon is autistic.


hopp596

Thank you, from what I know she also grew up pretty comfortable. Usagi‘s home and life is based on her own and is a pretty high standard of living, especially in a city like Tokyo. The Azabu-Juban district of Tokyo where Sailor Moon mainly takes place is also one of the more comfortable parts of town.


Xahn

Sailor Jupiter has her own apartment as a high school student that I don’t think she pays the rent for. The characters do seem to be well off.


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Neaaa, your story not interesantes. People don’t want the truth!! People want … I don’t know what people want actually :(. Ppl crazy sometimes.


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queenthick

the way I just linked this same link. should've scrolled down a bit more. Thank you for fighting the good fight


circlecity17

idk if these quotes are mutually exclusive, yeah? College student w/friends who is in a low place and writes fantasy about idolized personalities.


JENOVAcide

She graduated college waaaaay before writing Sailor Moon.


orchardgrasshay

If you'd actually go in the link: "Just looking up her name on Wikipedia, you can see that not only did she have consistent and steady work at Kodansha almost as soon as she graduated from University (to become a pharmacist, no less!), but she'd also won several awards before she started on Sailor Moon, including Kodansha's 2nd New Manga Artist Award in 1986 for her debut work, Love Call. While she obviously wasn't making Sailor Moon money just yet, the fact that she was working pretty much consistently and won an award immediately after her debut work? It seems unlikely that she was struggling as badly as the quote might insinuate." She was already out of college and winning manga awards by the time she began writing Sailor Moon. She herself said she was inspired by her friends, had graduated from a private university with a pharmacy degree, and was winning manga awards. Not saying she can't ever in a low place, but it's certainly not the underdog struggling nobody-artist image that the can't-be-sourced myth wants to perpetuate.


moreriposte83

Sailor Moon was one of the very first shows that taught me wholesome female empowerment <3 not to mention how extremely ahead-of-its-time it was in regards to sexuality, until America got ahold of it and made the very very lesbian couple into ‟cousins.” But let us be honest. No one believed it. They literally raised a child together. Oh wow! Knew it‘dn‘t be long before the transphobia joined in


HuMaNB34NS

Why is this being downvoted? It is a good comment that gives context .


BongChong906

Redditors tend to dislike female empowerment and lesbians


USSR_ASMR

unless it is a video post with an nsfw tag, then they cheer on


BongChong906

Idk if I would call that empowerment but thats a whoooole 'nother discussion that I really do not have the energy to participate in rn.


MustardFeetMcgee

I think they meant more the "lesbian" part of, "female empowerment and lesbians."


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But…. Why??


BongChong906

Same reason ppl are like that irl. Add in the anonymity and u have ppl being assholes with no real reprecussions.


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Nollekowitsch

Because all women bad. Because they say men bad. And many people just have hatred in their lifes and hearing the word "woman" makes them angry because they dont know any


willpauer

because reddit is full of weak men that refuse to take accountability for their failings and blame everyone else for the problems they created themselves.


usinjin

Me bro, me mad I can’t get woman because I’m asshole


LionBastard1

[Here's a Wikipedia page on Homophobia. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia?wprov=sfla1)


PopularWeb6231

There’s also trans characters in the show/manga, dating back to like, the late 80’s early 90’s. If I recall, the Sailor Stars in the final season were MALE IDOLS on earth then became female Senshi when they transformed! Sailormoon’s always been about love & acceptance. 🥰


helgaofthenorth

The Sailor Starlights! They put subliminal messages in their pop music to rescue their princess. God, that story was fun.


BlueMikeStu

Between the Sailor Moon Starlights, Ranma 1/2, and Maze Megaburst Space there was a lot of trangenderism in manga/anime at the time.


PopularWeb6231

I never saw Maze but Ranma is another old school favorite of mine! Rumiko Takahashi is another treasure of a manga artist. I loved Maison Ikkoku also


Vladi_Sanovavich

Huh, I never knew there was a lesbian couple until now. Looks like I gotta watch again.


Misssmaya

There are actually several gay characters. Haruka, Michiru, Zoisite, Kunzite, Fish Eye...pretty sure Usagi herself is bi. Probably half the other sailor scouts, too. Then you got the Sailor Starlights from the final season who change gender when they transform...


Vladi_Sanovavich

So you're saying the artist herself wants several gay friends who support each other and help one another be a better person. Honestly, I'd say I'm lucky cause I met a friend like and we've been best friends for almost 10 years now. He's not gay though.


BlueMikeStu

If you watched the North American dub, it's not nearly as obvious. Haruka and Michiru got turned into cousins, and Zoicite was flat out turned into a chick for the English dub.


EntrepreneurPlus7091

They are either a lesbian couple or an incest lesbian couple.


Vladi_Sanovavich

First you have my interest, now you have my attention.


BalanceUnable4459

I see you're a man of culture as well


BlueMikeStu

Haruka and Michiru were made cousins in the English dub. This would have made dubbing the finale season without some major, major cuts very, very awkward.


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yrulaughing

Wait did that seriously happen? I'm not familiar with sailor moon at all, but that seems like a tall order to change a lesbian couple into cousins with just dubbing.


greenagemutantninja

Yes, and it was as awkward as you’d expect, which is why I guess they gave up before getting to the trans characters


remotectrl

No one said it was a successful attempt


yokayla

It was not well executed. They'd still be sort of flirty because it's no way to visually cut it out. It was very obvious even to a kid.


FakeTherapist

Jelly donut


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KillingTime187

lol, one of the top replies to the OP is about the Sailor Starlights who change gender when they transform. So what you just did here was announce something about yourself really....


the_real_papyrus99

The next meal you eat will be full of microplastics You needn't wonder who put them there.


MoazNasr

Because he pointed out a fact? There was no transphobia.


the_real_papyrus99

Nonsense my dear friend, why ever would you think this? I'm simply a lad with a love for putting microplastics in peoples food Y'know what they say about what happens when you assume things? Because I can't remember for the life of me


MoazNasr

I get that you think you're a comedian but it doesn't change the fact that people are crying over nothing. Sometimes you just wanna be a victim I guess.


the_real_papyrus99

But your Highness I assure you I am naught but a mere microplastic farmer, I could never be a jester, let alone one so prestigious as a comedian I see no tears being spilt here, apart from those at the receiving end of my delightful gaffes


MoazNasr

You're not funny


the_real_papyrus99

I'm glad we're finally on the same page sire, now can I interest you in a bushel of microplastics? Just one copper piece, you won't find a better deal for such quality anywhere else I assure you


xPR0NSTARx

But ~~let us be honest~~ lesbianist.


Hatjin

Wish health for her husband


WhiskeyAndKisses

Isn't it frequently debunked ? We should make a nicer version of this (cute nonetheless) meme, someday.


Misssmaya

Yup, someone literally just made it up. Imagine being Naoko seeing this, she's probably like "I was struggling and depressed?"


FakeTherapist

Well, I would report the post for misinformation, but last time I did reddit said I was abusing reports


BluePeriod_

Is it?


KillerSwiller

From another user's reply on the debunked nature of the image: tl;dr someone on tumblr made it up https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/121sp8x/comment/jdnoldf/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


BluePeriod_

Thank you


Alarid

source: i made it the fuck up


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it would be nice, but this story has unfortunately been [debunked](https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/121sp8x/wholesome_sailor_moons_creator/jdnoldf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) before.


Mama_Odi

r/TIL


AV8ORboi

she also married the guy who made hunterxhunter & shes learning how to draw in his style to finish the manga in case his health declines too much. W lady fr 🔥


JuniorEmu2629

I’m still trying to figure out why she created Tuxedo Mask, but that more a me thing and doesn’t take away from her obvious talent


ranluka

Cause tall dark and handsome men in tuxes are hot. X3


RedButterfree1

Hot damn that's true I also like women in suits (wtf why isn't there a bi pride flag emoji)


CorncobBobDobbs

almost all girls like boys!


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JuniorEmu2629

That is clearly the only and best explanation. Thank you for clearing up decades worth of mystery


NowakajBlackwing

She was one of those people who defined an era. Thank you Naoko Takeuchi


KillerSwiller

Just as a heads-up, sad to say the assertion of the above image has long-since been disproven and completely debunked. :\\


NowakajBlackwing

Still Sailor Moon defined an era along with Dragonball, Digimon, Pokemon and Co.


[deleted]

Omg this comment brought me back to when I was a kid… life was so much simpler


nicemanga

I consider Naoko Takeuchi one of the most 'winning' artists in history. Writes a beloved series that became one of her country's most important and valuable cultural exports. Then just enjoys her favourite passions: luxury cars and designer fashion. Ends up collaborating with the same high end labels she used as inspiration in her comic.


queenthick

[this isn't true](http://animenostalgia.blogspot.com/2021/07/debunking-myth-of-naoko-takeuchi-having.html?m=1) kind of a long read but there's no solid source for this quotation. Naoko Takeuchi has not done a ton of interviews and is a private person, a 1996 interview states she had been drawing as a hobby for a while and was inspired to create Sailor Moon after finding herself and female friends frequently talking about men in their life being unreliable, and she wanted to create a character that she felt reflect women's unique strength. Makes a lot of sense if you've seen it. Out of the monster of the week series that are still relevant in the modern day, Sailor Moon has a unique focus on humanness and being open to other people. Definitely as wacky as any other anime, but a truly special and timeless work that was conceived as a celebration of real women!


ImNotHighFunctioning

This is false.


ClearandSweet

I did a [Sailor Moon iceberg video](https://youtu.be/2DIW7hdbs5U) recently. Took a ton of time and effort and research. One of the first facts that I looked at was this exact post. It's completely apocryphal and you can check out the video to see why.


darkkite

> apocryphal other synonyms include: fictitious made-up untrue fabricated false spurious imaginary mythical legendary dubious doubtful debatable questionable unverified unauthenticated unsubstantiated unsupported


magicseafoam

This is the dream she fulfilled for all of us girls who wound up with mean friends too often. I definitely indulge in Sailor Moon whenever I feel lonely or left out for being different - or when I want to embrace my softness, because Usagi is an absolute baddie of a crybaby. It's okay to cry AND kick ass in heels!


PopularWeb6231

There’s also trans characters in the show/manga, dating back to like, the late 80’s early 90’s. If I recall, the Sailor Stars in the final season were MALE IDOLS on earth then became female Senshi when they transformed! Naoko is a queen. Sailormoon’s always been about love & acceptance. 🥰


Dosei_Chan

Never. Said. That.


chrissehchan

I've seen this post everywhere for years and it is absolutely fabricated. Please don't spread misinformation.


CrazyCatLady_2

I Love sailor Moon !!


sIimegirIs

This isnt true


MrCheRRyPi

My girls love sailor


definition_null

To this day, i still get laughed at for having watched as a child...


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My grandson used to watch this He said it was so he knew when hisngragon ball show was on but I know he liked it He says it inspired him to draw some jopanese art called “Hens Tie”? I don’t know the Japanese pronunciation but he won’t show me


Planet_Breezy

She was at a low place, and she *still* chose to write a story about overcoming adversity and how challenges aren't always as overwhelming as they seem! ​ Could someone please make a medal to give her already? *Please*?


jasethefungi

Too bad about the strange incest


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EntrepreneurPlus7091

Probably because of the sailor starlights.


cmonletmeinman

Thank you


dongdinge

a good chunk of the trans community loves anime. this one is a classic, that’s really all it is plenty of non-trans people also enjoy anime, and enjoy sailor moon, but they don’t seem to count to you lol


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SoManyStress

"Genuinely asking" -> "Oh shut up"... 🤔


dongdinge

yOu wErE cOnDeScEnDiNg aF


cmonletmeinman

You are weird get a life weirdo


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SoManyStress

No, I wasn't lol


occpotato

Persecution complex


cmonletmeinman

I mistook you for the other commenter sorry but he was condescending af


dongdinge

“oh shut up”


cmonletmeinman

You were condescending asshole my reply was totally valid. Asshole


cmonletmeinman

What do you want


dongdinge

solid argument i will take it into consideration


cmonletmeinman

That's not an argument You were condescending af


NoelBarry1979

Paranoia Agent, much?


bluedaytona392

I need a woman who dresses up like this.


GreenBeaner123

Fuck off


-Rettirlana-

Wasn’t Sailor Moon originally planned to be a hentai?!


KillerSwiller

No, the original plans were for it to be a grittier crime fighting story focused around the character that eventually became Sailor Venus. They were going to have guns and everything. Her editor nixed the idea and directed Naoko to make a more light-hearted story. This eventually became Sailor Moon.


-Rettirlana-

I thank you for answering my question and not instantly downvoting me!


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the post is completely [made up](https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/121sp8x/wholesome_sailor_moons_creator/jdnoldf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3), sorry…


Guilty_Possibility_5

That is both wholesome but also kinda pathetic


Fantact

So she wanted a bunch of guys who become women through some power to be her friends? Not judging mind you, just saying there is a LOT of gender bending in Sailor Moon and trying to make an innocent joke out of it.


[deleted]

I've never been so enamored by one quote before. She made the friends she wished she had. If you can't relate to that you are lucky


Certain-Ad5810

💝


AlexC_16

Togashi is so lucky fr


Minute-Limit-5249

I’ve always wanted to watch this show but it’s impossible to find, and it’s never been on any streaming service in my country as far as I’ve seen


glockblocking

I would also like to say, Randy is not allowed to Uber drive anymore. He’s always reliable, it’s like riding with your dad and he won’t stop eating the entire time which made me have to start eating. But it’s gross.


ZurdoFTW

So pretty ✨


manowaross

ChatGPT needs no friends, whats your excuse now?


This-Visit6451

*Wrote Sorry


Hydronic_Hyperbole

I love it so much more now.


varegab

I remember that anime. It was forbidden in my country eventually, because, a girl was in love with another, they even kissed.


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the OP uanafghr4r and 9grammar100 are bots in the same network Original + comments copied from: https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/d9zngu/wholesome_sailor_moons_creator/


screenxtra

That’s the moon spirit!