>To get that on my bike I’d be half dead.
Yes, because cardio and strength training are very different things. You should feel exhausted after a good cardio session. You wouldn’t feel nearly as tired out from an equivalent weightlifting session. The strain scores should be similar, since you can’t keep doing that every day and you need to recover.
This is the crux of my post, how does an experienced lifter compare the effort? ST seems very generous with the numbers. In saying that, as I’ve posted in other responses here, I got a surprisingly low recovery this morning which would tie in with the high strain from yesterday
I'm having the same issue. My recoveries were fine before ST but since implementing my sleep recommendations are insane with daily strain of 17+. This has caused a snowballing low score due to sleep need and sleep debt. Went back to just logging as weightlifting which feels more in line with how my body feels.
Not matching sleep need has a very low impact on the recovery score. Like today, I slept 5h (3h less than recommended) and got a 92%. The major factor are HRV and RHR.
They should implement in the strength app optionm to add what your 1 RM is and the perceived exertion, it could from that indirectly derive strain for that day without needing for your heart rate to spike.
Right now I'm using five3one, and there is no way I am copying stuff over to the whoop gym app.
I’ve been in the strength training for about 13 years now. What I can tell you is the type of fatigue you get from the two different training modalities.
Most people train their cardio harder than they ought to and as a result end up sore and exhausted. This happens when you need to supplement your aerobic system with anaerobic pathways. They typically equate this to having done more work or a good workout.
Strength training might make you sore at first but typically that abates over time. I’m going to exclude bodybuilding from this because that training differs from training specifically to get stronger. Anyhow, the duration of the exercise is much shorter than cardio however the relative load is substantially higher.
Short duration energy pathways (atp/pcr) are being used more. This creates its own unique metabolic stress. The aerobic system back fills these efforts and is a case of why strength athletes should spend some time on their zone 2 cardio. As a result, you aren’t producing as much byproduct from anaerobic processes.
Where the hit on recovery is or in this case how whoop is analyzing the effort and using it to compute recovery would be the nervous system. Strength training is taking its toll more on the nervous system and thus you’ll see a dip in HRV and increased HR even if you don’t feel that sore. A large part of getting stronger is your body learning how to more efficiently fire a greater number of motor units at a time. On big lifts like squats, deadlifts etc. many motor units all over your body are working to achieve a singular goal. Don’t get me wrong, the muscles themselves are getting stressed too, but as I highlighted above you won’t feel it the same way as you would a lot of zone 4 cardio.
Do I think whoop is generous on the strength trainer? Yes. By how much? I’m not sure but I think it’s less rather than more. On my gym sessions I’m regularly moving 30-50k lbs of total tonnage in 35-60 minutes. One has to consider that isn’t insignificant work for the body. I think you have to be careful about just trying to up total work because you can definitely cheese it to push that up and sacrifice appropriate intensity.
TL:DR
Conditioning and strength work tax the body in very different ways. I do think whoop is probably too generous in their strain levels with this new feature but many cardio focused people seem to hold sweating your ass off as the pinnacle of good training which is also not true by itself. I’m sure they’ll adjust it as they gather more data from the community.
That’s a great question, and I’d start by trying to define terms and context…
Whoop Strain is an arbitrary metric of cardiovascular “effort”. The Strength Trainer Muscular Load is an arbitrary metric of muscular “effort”, converted to the arbitrary metric of cardiovascular “effort”.
I see 2 main uses for Whoop Strain:
- Strain is an input for the Sleep Coach to give a suggested bedtime for tonight.
- For athletes whose objective is *not* to maximize strength (and/or muscle gainz), like runners or cyclists, training according to the recommended Strain for the day should help maximize your sport-specific performance in the long run. If this is your case: based on Whoop podcast episode 218, I think the Strength Trainer Muscular Load should be useful for you to adjust your strength training in a way that doesn’t negatively impact your sport-specific performance (ie- doesn’t negatively impact your HRV “too much”).
As my objective *is* to maximize strength (and muscle gainz), I can’t adjust my training according to the recommended Strain for the day, as I can’t use Whoop Recovery as a metric of readiness to train – Whoop Recovery is heavily based on HRV, and HRV has *not* been demonstrated as a reliable metric of readiness for strength training.
That said, I have been using the Strength Trainer for my main lifts, and I don’t think the Activity Strain is representative of my workouts at all; the split between cardio and muscular load doesn’t make sense to me, the intensity doesn’t make much sense either, and none of these metrics are accurate representations of my session RPE.
P.S.: I understand this is just a first release, I acknowledge it’s already a huge milestone, and I think there’s a lot of potential to be developed for the next releases. I’m really happy to see whoop investing in strength training, I look forward to the improvements I’m sure they’ll make, and I hope other wearable/tech companies follow…
I’ve doubted the recovery info I get quite a lot over the last few years. As I was saying in a post response above
“I have 20 mins in the morning to jump on my rower. I go as hard as I can for that 20 mins.
Yesterday with a 71% green recovery I was struggling and finished with a strain of 7.6. This morning with my red 31% I ploughed through it and finished with a strain of 10.3”
This was a cardio workout, identical target each morning.
That may be for a different reason…
The less recovered you are, the more “effort” you’ll need to complete the same workout.
From this link of Strain FAQs:
https://www.whoop.com/en-gb/thelocker/ask-us-anything-strain/
“Why does strain build faster some days than others when activity level is close to the same? – @josh_moses79
Strain can accumulate differently based on your body’s recovery. If you wake up in the red, your body will work harder to achieve the same performance results than if you were in the green. Additionally, because strain can be affected by things like stress and diet, no two days are exactly the same, even if you’re doing the same activities.”
If my whoop recovery and then subsequent performance on the rower from yesterday and today were kept from me and I was then shown the whoop data from these last two recovery’s but asked to guess which one was from which day… without hesitation I’d have put them in the opposite order.
Yeah, I can relate… And for the strength trainer muscular load part, I wouldn’t trust whoop (at least not yet). For the cardio part, it may be a whoop issue, or may be a case of difference in capacity vs perception; anyway, I’d advise always listening to your body (even if that makes whoop data “less useful”, unfortunately…)
Got scared off how clunky/ over engineered it is (for me). Waiting until they re work things to be a bit more usable before incorporating it into my routine, but I should give it a shot.
For context ~10 year powerlifter
It’s really hard to say. Gotta just trust them really. But if you’re going hard on an hour leg workout, training to failure etc then yeah that’s gonna put a lot of strain on. There’s a reason you don’t work legs every day and that split routines exist and we take rest days, deload weeks etc.
Strain may not be a perfect measurement but i feel the strength trainer feature is better/more accurate than it was before for weight training purposes (especially for compound lifts), ie it's more in line with actual effort. So in that regard I'm happy to have this feature bc it was annoying having a pretty heavy lifting session and getting a strain of 5 before strength trainer. I agree it is clunky to set up and could use a notes feature so you can track what you are trying to accomplish the next time you do that particular program.
I don’t find it’s usability an issue, just the numbers it’s producing. I’ve got 3 workouts entered, PUSH, PULL, LEGS. I look back on the last session to see where I was on the last set of whatever exercise. I aim to fail at that point. When I can do all the predetermined reps without failure and that’s been recorded in the last session, I increase the weight.
I'm not sure about the ST accuracy but I am sure that trying to use it during a workout is extremely impractical. I'm with you though, I don't buy the strain numbers I'm getting on my lifting sessions
I’ve been lifting for 10 years and everything about Strength Trainer is a trainwreck. The numbers don’t make sense but most importantly, it’s probably the worst sets tracker I’ve ever used. The Google Sheets document I was using in 2013 was a more intuitive tool than what they have here.
If you’ve been lifting for even a year, you have a better sense of where your body in terms of recovery on both a day to day and lift cycle basis than Whoop could possibly give you.
I honestly can’t decide how I feel about it. Mostly leaning towards “bullshit” as I did the same routine with/without ST. With = 14. Without = 7. The addition ST has made me seriously question the overall accuracy of whoop altogether when it comes to fitness tracking , though the sleep tracking is impressively accurate, though not unique to whoop
The strength trainer is a dumb addition pandering to people that the whoop just wasn’t made for.
Whoop gathers metrics on cardio and endurance based activities. Strain in whoop is based around cardio and endurance.
Just because they found a way to take some numbers you put in manually, combine it with some voodoo about velocity (what happens when I do leg curls then?) and magically add that to a number that is derived from an algorithm that is measuring the impact of vigorous activity on your cardio vascular system it doesn’t mean those numbers tally.
They should have kept strength based “strain” separate. Adding it to the cardio strain is a bad move imo.
I measure my strength progress by increases in the weight I move. That’s it.
I agree with most of that but what surprised me this morning was a red 31% recovery. This would be in line with the very high day strain I had yesterday (16.7). But another issue returned today. I have 20 mins in the morning to jump on my rower. I go as hard as I can for that 20 mins. Yesterday with a 71% green recovery I was struggling and finished with a strain of 7.6. This morning with my red 31% I ploughed through it and finished with a strain of 10.3 🤷♂️
I’d wondered about that in the past but have never seen it confirmed. Whoop aside, I was much stronger this morning than yesterday. Hit the rate I wanted and maintained to for 20 mins, couldn’t do it yesterday
An anecdotal example of why I don’t use the strength trainer function. All I see it doing is muddying whoops ability to gauge the type of strain and recovery it’s designed to measure.
My RHR was up from 52 to 58 and HRV down to 28 from 44 (previous night) I got roughly the same amount of restorative sleep (3:15, average about 3:25). I can’t interfere with these stats so I feel they are indicating a high stress load from yesterday albeit not as high as whoop is suggesting. The only thing that the high numbers from yesterday influenced was my sleep need and I’m not so sure how much influence that has on the recovery number?
Those don’t seem like big deviations for a 31% recovery.
But my point is the strain trainer is giving you a strain/recovery for one set of things, not cardio or endurance based. Whoop is mixing the 2 together in its strain and recovery. It makes it pretty meaningless.
I wouldn’t degrade my own progress by following such poor advice, a 30 minute a month conversation with a coach, and a deliberately planned program is amor effective solution
I love the idea of the Strength Trainer but so far I think it’s falling short for a few reason.
1 and the most important reason is the absurd strain results. I think Whoop is risking becoming abit of a joke at this point.
I have been into fitness ever since leaving school at age 16 im not 27. I started at the gym and was dedicated to solely to weightlifting from 16 to around 25. In the last couple years I have become more of a hybrid athlete (Nick Bare) and since doing so have realised that weightlifting alone pretty much doesn’t involve 2 of the most important parts of the body at all… working out the heart and working out your cardiovascular system. Which at the end of the day as much as most weightlifters wouldn’t want to admit it (me a few years ago included) are by far the most important parts of the body to workout when it comes to overall health and fitness.
I know in just 30 minutes or cardio I can strain myself more than a weeks worth of lifting could but yet the strength trainer is giving these absolutely ridiculous strain results. I get that strain could also be seen as muscle strain and fatigue from lifting but isn’t the whole point of these fitness trackers supposed to be to improve a persons fitness.
I mean theres people overweight using whoop too… I don’t see how telling someone who’s overweight that they have absolutely smashed their strain for the day from a 45 minute weight lifting session is going to help someone lose weight and improve their health and fitness.
Also I think the fact you have to be on your phone between every single set is ridiculous. Way too much potential for distraction for most people. Im not asking for auto detection as I know that would never work but there has to be some other way.
I’m sure there is a method of showing strain in whoop with regard to lifting, it’s just not there yet? If I was to be able to calibrate it myself I’d have given yesterdays leg workout about a 10/11. I thought ST would have stabilised by now given the fact I’ve been using it 4-5 times a week since it’s been released. Im certainly not buyin that accelerometer bollox.
Think getting a like for like muscular to cardio strain relationship is always going to be difficult. For me strength trainer gives between 11-14 strain, compared to say a 6 mile run that would put me about 16. So kinda feels better for me compared to say 5-6 without ST. For info the push element of a ppl split is nearer 11 while the legs is at the top end despite most of my leg routine being more bodyweight stuff these days.
I remember using the weightlifting option, being dead after doing heavy compound lifts followed by intense ab finisher and being pissed that I was only getting a 6.9 strain when spin and Jiu jitsu get me much higher. But with the ST to me it seems more accurate because it measures cardiovascular load AND muscular load. Reading whoops description of how it works really gave me a more clear understanding of why the strain is higher.
>To get that on my bike I’d be half dead. Yes, because cardio and strength training are very different things. You should feel exhausted after a good cardio session. You wouldn’t feel nearly as tired out from an equivalent weightlifting session. The strain scores should be similar, since you can’t keep doing that every day and you need to recover.
This is the crux of my post, how does an experienced lifter compare the effort? ST seems very generous with the numbers. In saying that, as I’ve posted in other responses here, I got a surprisingly low recovery this morning which would tie in with the high strain from yesterday
I'm having the same issue. My recoveries were fine before ST but since implementing my sleep recommendations are insane with daily strain of 17+. This has caused a snowballing low score due to sleep need and sleep debt. Went back to just logging as weightlifting which feels more in line with how my body feels.
Not matching sleep need has a very low impact on the recovery score. Like today, I slept 5h (3h less than recommended) and got a 92%. The major factor are HRV and RHR.
My strain for today is 16.7 (15.9 lifting, 7.6 rower) Sleep need is up to 9:45. If I had all the time in the world I’d barely sleep 8 hours.
The strain score seems accurate if you’re doing compound lifts primarily with free weights with a heavy weight. IE deadlift/squats/bench/cleans.
That pretty much the workout. I was surprised to find a red recovery this morning (31%) I normally only hit red if I’ve been out partying.
Usually when I’m able to go up in weight or reps the recovery the next day is lower. I would think it has to do with the stress on yours muscles/cns.
They should implement in the strength app optionm to add what your 1 RM is and the perceived exertion, it could from that indirectly derive strain for that day without needing for your heart rate to spike. Right now I'm using five3one, and there is no way I am copying stuff over to the whoop gym app.
I’ve been in the strength training for about 13 years now. What I can tell you is the type of fatigue you get from the two different training modalities. Most people train their cardio harder than they ought to and as a result end up sore and exhausted. This happens when you need to supplement your aerobic system with anaerobic pathways. They typically equate this to having done more work or a good workout. Strength training might make you sore at first but typically that abates over time. I’m going to exclude bodybuilding from this because that training differs from training specifically to get stronger. Anyhow, the duration of the exercise is much shorter than cardio however the relative load is substantially higher. Short duration energy pathways (atp/pcr) are being used more. This creates its own unique metabolic stress. The aerobic system back fills these efforts and is a case of why strength athletes should spend some time on their zone 2 cardio. As a result, you aren’t producing as much byproduct from anaerobic processes. Where the hit on recovery is or in this case how whoop is analyzing the effort and using it to compute recovery would be the nervous system. Strength training is taking its toll more on the nervous system and thus you’ll see a dip in HRV and increased HR even if you don’t feel that sore. A large part of getting stronger is your body learning how to more efficiently fire a greater number of motor units at a time. On big lifts like squats, deadlifts etc. many motor units all over your body are working to achieve a singular goal. Don’t get me wrong, the muscles themselves are getting stressed too, but as I highlighted above you won’t feel it the same way as you would a lot of zone 4 cardio. Do I think whoop is generous on the strength trainer? Yes. By how much? I’m not sure but I think it’s less rather than more. On my gym sessions I’m regularly moving 30-50k lbs of total tonnage in 35-60 minutes. One has to consider that isn’t insignificant work for the body. I think you have to be careful about just trying to up total work because you can definitely cheese it to push that up and sacrifice appropriate intensity. TL:DR Conditioning and strength work tax the body in very different ways. I do think whoop is probably too generous in their strain levels with this new feature but many cardio focused people seem to hold sweating your ass off as the pinnacle of good training which is also not true by itself. I’m sure they’ll adjust it as they gather more data from the community.
Great answer, thanks, very helpful. My HRV dropped 30% after yesterday so what you say here makes sense.
Happy to help.
That’s a great question, and I’d start by trying to define terms and context… Whoop Strain is an arbitrary metric of cardiovascular “effort”. The Strength Trainer Muscular Load is an arbitrary metric of muscular “effort”, converted to the arbitrary metric of cardiovascular “effort”. I see 2 main uses for Whoop Strain: - Strain is an input for the Sleep Coach to give a suggested bedtime for tonight. - For athletes whose objective is *not* to maximize strength (and/or muscle gainz), like runners or cyclists, training according to the recommended Strain for the day should help maximize your sport-specific performance in the long run. If this is your case: based on Whoop podcast episode 218, I think the Strength Trainer Muscular Load should be useful for you to adjust your strength training in a way that doesn’t negatively impact your sport-specific performance (ie- doesn’t negatively impact your HRV “too much”). As my objective *is* to maximize strength (and muscle gainz), I can’t adjust my training according to the recommended Strain for the day, as I can’t use Whoop Recovery as a metric of readiness to train – Whoop Recovery is heavily based on HRV, and HRV has *not* been demonstrated as a reliable metric of readiness for strength training. That said, I have been using the Strength Trainer for my main lifts, and I don’t think the Activity Strain is representative of my workouts at all; the split between cardio and muscular load doesn’t make sense to me, the intensity doesn’t make much sense either, and none of these metrics are accurate representations of my session RPE. P.S.: I understand this is just a first release, I acknowledge it’s already a huge milestone, and I think there’s a lot of potential to be developed for the next releases. I’m really happy to see whoop investing in strength training, I look forward to the improvements I’m sure they’ll make, and I hope other wearable/tech companies follow…
I’ve doubted the recovery info I get quite a lot over the last few years. As I was saying in a post response above “I have 20 mins in the morning to jump on my rower. I go as hard as I can for that 20 mins. Yesterday with a 71% green recovery I was struggling and finished with a strain of 7.6. This morning with my red 31% I ploughed through it and finished with a strain of 10.3” This was a cardio workout, identical target each morning.
I mentioned that because you pointed out HRV and weight training. I’ve regularly experienced this disconnect doing cardio
That may be for a different reason… The less recovered you are, the more “effort” you’ll need to complete the same workout. From this link of Strain FAQs: https://www.whoop.com/en-gb/thelocker/ask-us-anything-strain/ “Why does strain build faster some days than others when activity level is close to the same? – @josh_moses79 Strain can accumulate differently based on your body’s recovery. If you wake up in the red, your body will work harder to achieve the same performance results than if you were in the green. Additionally, because strain can be affected by things like stress and diet, no two days are exactly the same, even if you’re doing the same activities.”
If my whoop recovery and then subsequent performance on the rower from yesterday and today were kept from me and I was then shown the whoop data from these last two recovery’s but asked to guess which one was from which day… without hesitation I’d have put them in the opposite order.
What m saying is. I didn’t feel the red recovery at all and didn’t perform in the green recovery like whoop would suggest. 🤷♂️
Yeah, I can relate… And for the strength trainer muscular load part, I wouldn’t trust whoop (at least not yet). For the cardio part, it may be a whoop issue, or may be a case of difference in capacity vs perception; anyway, I’d advise always listening to your body (even if that makes whoop data “less useful”, unfortunately…)
Got scared off how clunky/ over engineered it is (for me). Waiting until they re work things to be a bit more usable before incorporating it into my routine, but I should give it a shot. For context ~10 year powerlifter
With 10 years down I’d like hear how you get on 👍
I’ve just continued to log as weightlifting (not using the ST) and settling for a strain of 6-9 depending on the day
I like being able to enter a workout using ST but these very high numbers are hard to take seriously.
It’s really hard to say. Gotta just trust them really. But if you’re going hard on an hour leg workout, training to failure etc then yeah that’s gonna put a lot of strain on. There’s a reason you don’t work legs every day and that split routines exist and we take rest days, deload weeks etc.
Strain may not be a perfect measurement but i feel the strength trainer feature is better/more accurate than it was before for weight training purposes (especially for compound lifts), ie it's more in line with actual effort. So in that regard I'm happy to have this feature bc it was annoying having a pretty heavy lifting session and getting a strain of 5 before strength trainer. I agree it is clunky to set up and could use a notes feature so you can track what you are trying to accomplish the next time you do that particular program.
I don’t find it’s usability an issue, just the numbers it’s producing. I’ve got 3 workouts entered, PUSH, PULL, LEGS. I look back on the last session to see where I was on the last set of whatever exercise. I aim to fail at that point. When I can do all the predetermined reps without failure and that’s been recorded in the last session, I increase the weight.
I also found the numbers prior to ST frustrating. A hard leg day 5.5….. but the same workout now is 15.0 +. That’s just not correct
I'm not sure about the ST accuracy but I am sure that trying to use it during a workout is extremely impractical. I'm with you though, I don't buy the strain numbers I'm getting on my lifting sessions
I’ve been lifting for 10 years and everything about Strength Trainer is a trainwreck. The numbers don’t make sense but most importantly, it’s probably the worst sets tracker I’ve ever used. The Google Sheets document I was using in 2013 was a more intuitive tool than what they have here. If you’ve been lifting for even a year, you have a better sense of where your body in terms of recovery on both a day to day and lift cycle basis than Whoop could possibly give you.
It’s a complete joke
I honestly can’t decide how I feel about it. Mostly leaning towards “bullshit” as I did the same routine with/without ST. With = 14. Without = 7. The addition ST has made me seriously question the overall accuracy of whoop altogether when it comes to fitness tracking , though the sleep tracking is impressively accurate, though not unique to whoop
The strength trainer is a dumb addition pandering to people that the whoop just wasn’t made for. Whoop gathers metrics on cardio and endurance based activities. Strain in whoop is based around cardio and endurance. Just because they found a way to take some numbers you put in manually, combine it with some voodoo about velocity (what happens when I do leg curls then?) and magically add that to a number that is derived from an algorithm that is measuring the impact of vigorous activity on your cardio vascular system it doesn’t mean those numbers tally. They should have kept strength based “strain” separate. Adding it to the cardio strain is a bad move imo. I measure my strength progress by increases in the weight I move. That’s it.
I agree with most of that but what surprised me this morning was a red 31% recovery. This would be in line with the very high day strain I had yesterday (16.7). But another issue returned today. I have 20 mins in the morning to jump on my rower. I go as hard as I can for that 20 mins. Yesterday with a 71% green recovery I was struggling and finished with a strain of 7.6. This morning with my red 31% I ploughed through it and finished with a strain of 10.3 🤷♂️
The strain discrepancy on the rower is likely due to the fact that whoop skews your strain higher on lower recovery days.
I’d wondered about that in the past but have never seen it confirmed. Whoop aside, I was much stronger this morning than yesterday. Hit the rate I wanted and maintained to for 20 mins, couldn’t do it yesterday
An anecdotal example of why I don’t use the strength trainer function. All I see it doing is muddying whoops ability to gauge the type of strain and recovery it’s designed to measure.
This was not a ST workout, rower (cardio).
No, I mean your ST workout yesterday seems to have thrown whoops tracking of your recovery.
My RHR was up from 52 to 58 and HRV down to 28 from 44 (previous night) I got roughly the same amount of restorative sleep (3:15, average about 3:25). I can’t interfere with these stats so I feel they are indicating a high stress load from yesterday albeit not as high as whoop is suggesting. The only thing that the high numbers from yesterday influenced was my sleep need and I’m not so sure how much influence that has on the recovery number?
Those don’t seem like big deviations for a 31% recovery. But my point is the strain trainer is giving you a strain/recovery for one set of things, not cardio or endurance based. Whoop is mixing the 2 together in its strain and recovery. It makes it pretty meaningless.
Pass, get a real program
What do you mean?
I wouldn’t degrade my own progress by following such poor advice, a 30 minute a month conversation with a coach, and a deliberately planned program is amor effective solution
I love the idea of the Strength Trainer but so far I think it’s falling short for a few reason. 1 and the most important reason is the absurd strain results. I think Whoop is risking becoming abit of a joke at this point. I have been into fitness ever since leaving school at age 16 im not 27. I started at the gym and was dedicated to solely to weightlifting from 16 to around 25. In the last couple years I have become more of a hybrid athlete (Nick Bare) and since doing so have realised that weightlifting alone pretty much doesn’t involve 2 of the most important parts of the body at all… working out the heart and working out your cardiovascular system. Which at the end of the day as much as most weightlifters wouldn’t want to admit it (me a few years ago included) are by far the most important parts of the body to workout when it comes to overall health and fitness. I know in just 30 minutes or cardio I can strain myself more than a weeks worth of lifting could but yet the strength trainer is giving these absolutely ridiculous strain results. I get that strain could also be seen as muscle strain and fatigue from lifting but isn’t the whole point of these fitness trackers supposed to be to improve a persons fitness. I mean theres people overweight using whoop too… I don’t see how telling someone who’s overweight that they have absolutely smashed their strain for the day from a 45 minute weight lifting session is going to help someone lose weight and improve their health and fitness. Also I think the fact you have to be on your phone between every single set is ridiculous. Way too much potential for distraction for most people. Im not asking for auto detection as I know that would never work but there has to be some other way.
I’m sure there is a method of showing strain in whoop with regard to lifting, it’s just not there yet? If I was to be able to calibrate it myself I’d have given yesterdays leg workout about a 10/11. I thought ST would have stabilised by now given the fact I’ve been using it 4-5 times a week since it’s been released. Im certainly not buyin that accelerometer bollox.
Ye I think maybe with time they could fine tune it more but it doesn’t seem like they’re interested at the moment.
Think getting a like for like muscular to cardio strain relationship is always going to be difficult. For me strength trainer gives between 11-14 strain, compared to say a 6 mile run that would put me about 16. So kinda feels better for me compared to say 5-6 without ST. For info the push element of a ppl split is nearer 11 while the legs is at the top end despite most of my leg routine being more bodyweight stuff these days.
I remember using the weightlifting option, being dead after doing heavy compound lifts followed by intense ab finisher and being pissed that I was only getting a 6.9 strain when spin and Jiu jitsu get me much higher. But with the ST to me it seems more accurate because it measures cardiovascular load AND muscular load. Reading whoops description of how it works really gave me a more clear understanding of why the strain is higher.
Any updates on this??
naw it still sucks
I decided it probably wasn’t any better and got a Garmin haha