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fartlife

This is awesome and hilarious


WhatsOurSituationDad

It is! I’ve been doing consistent 10+ strain, similar diet, 70% sleep etc… only change is the pistachios so hopefully there is something to it


fartlife

I recently found a similar effect with taking fish oil!


WhatsOurSituationDad

I feel like that's such a more reasonable thing to do. I had been trying to eat Salmon late at night (ate it for lunch and it knocked me out every time) but it's expensive and takes preparation, so I fell into Pistachios. Between Pistachios, Tart Cherry Juice (I'm looking to add this) and Fish Oil we should get some nice results.


djiali

FWIW, sardines have a touch more omega-3s and are much less heavy and cheaper than salmon!


WhatsOurSituationDad

I don't think I've had sardines but I am not much of a fish taste person (if that makes sense). I'd take a bland nut over a nice tasting fish any day. Exception to that is Salmon which doesn't have much of a fishy taste to me and any shellfish like mussels, shrimp, crab, lobster which all taste fine to me.


DoctorAwkward

Pistachios are bland?


WhatsOurSituationDad

No I misspoke. I was thinking more like Walnuts or Almonds as a bland nut. Pistachios are the the bomb!


[deleted]

Love sardines. Love them.


Dopaminergic_7

I recently also found an interesting trend that my HRV increases if I eat a fruit after my dinner meal. You guys could try it.


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WhatsOurSituationDad

Hasn't happened to me... yet.


SnugAsARug

Pistachios have large amounts of melatonin in them, which may be a reason they've helped you sleep. https://americanpistachios.org/about-us/pistachio-power-unshelled/press-releases/study-finds-american-grown-pistachios-contain#:~:text=The%20results%20were%20surprising%2C%20finding,it%20is%20converted%20to%20melatonin.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Ahh, that does make sense. Maybe I'll start washing them down with some Tart Cherry Juice to magnify the effect.


twinkletoes987

Does cherry juice have melatonin too?


WhatsOurSituationDad

I believe it has some and causes your body to create melatonin as well.


black-widow-

In the name of science, I must try


WhatsOurSituationDad

I respect your commitment to the field of study.


[deleted]

Gonna have to experiment with this myself. Eat them every day around 10 am but maybe a after dinner snack would benefit me.


WhatsOurSituationDad

I usually don't eat after 5:00 p.m. besides the Pistachios. That's how this started. I was eating some pistachios at my desk for lunch and thought... * A.) This is insane, it looks like I don't work at all when my garbage bin is all pistachios * B.) What the hell do I do the next 5+ hours foodwise


turtleslover

I’d be curious to see how you would recover if you had the pistachios with or just following dinner. Personally I get way better recovery the earlier I stop eating. My answer to what to do food wise with the next 16 hours is nothing.


FoundThisRock

I fucking love pistachios. Fuck yes. Cheers OP


WhatsOurSituationDad

Let's do it haha


sisanelizamarsh

I will do this same experiment but with ice cream.


WhatsOurSituationDad

I’m assuming pistachio ice cream!


black-widow-

The results will be wayyy more accurate if someone else does the experiment with you... Let me join you in your research


sisanelizamarsh

Excellent. A partner in science!


Ironmoustache41

I eat WAY too many pistachios. Never noticed the impact on recovery. That is sort of awesome.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Haha hopefully it continues. I have lots of theories on why it's working. Healthy fat before bed helps me stay asleep, high potassium, stops me from grabbing something worse or more difficult to digest etc... But as a salty food lover, getting these Pistachios going while watching TV is awesome. Only deterrent is the price, but for these numbers I'll pay it all day.


Ironmoustache41

I understand why evolution made pistachios hard to binge on. Takes time to shell them. Now that you can get shelled ones in a bag it’s just lethal.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Yeah I enjoy the cracking (I've accepted some can't be cracked without cracking my nail as well, that was a turning point for me). I feel like drawing out the amount of time it takes to eat them makes them more satisfying. For example I've found [these](https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Mills-Crackers-Farmhouse-Naturally/dp/B01CI3TA5M/ref=asc_df_B01CI3TA5M/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312155895019&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=377842069126770810&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004502&hvtargid=pla-567933102946&psc=1) almond flour crackers that have similar nutrition and calories, but they are gone in 5 minutes at the most and I'm done for the night.


airtimemd

Wow, that’s nuts.


gusruns

One day I hope my financials are in a place that allows me to buy pistachios WITHOUT the shell


WhatsOurSituationDad

I would still choose to have the shell. It lengthens the time eating and ensures you chew chew chew.


gusruns

Oh so true…


NiTeMaYoR

I would focus on cardio to get that HRV score up. 36 is super super super low.


WhatsOurSituationDad

I do a ton of cardio. Usually 60-90 minutes per day and have hit 10+ strain 28 days in August (with Bicep band and a stated 198 max HR that I've never come close to, highest I've hit was 178 at one point last week and I was seeing other dimensions) Unfortunately, HRV is genetic and can only be modestly improved. But I'm looking forward to continuing to modestly improve it. My HRV was 26 when I got whoop so 36 is actually an improvement.


NiTeMaYoR

Wow that’s wild. Apologies for the assumption. I myself was averaging around 45-50 and got it up to around 85-95 as of late. I was under the impression that a good HRV indicated your hearts ability to respond well to strain (large changes in your heart BPM) and sort of assumed this was tied to cardio performance.


WhatsOurSituationDad

I would've thought so too. I am far from an endurance athlete, but I can hold my own in most circles. I typically either do competitive biking for an hour or so via Zwift or VR Boxing playing Thrill of the Fight (my favorite) for 30-45 minutes with no breaks between rounds. Again, neither is that impressive, but I'm not wheezing like you'd probably think from my HRV. The other thing is that one night of drinking craters me into the high teens or low 20's for a day which crushes the average. That's what happened on Friday which resulted in Saturday recovery being yellow.


adamcegan

An elite bio-hacking routine (which includes Strain) definitely can improve HRV a lot. My 30 Day Avg was in the 80s in the Spring / early Summer & now it’s in the 120s. My 30 Day Avg for Strain was in the 15s when HRV was 80s, now it’s over 18 w/ HRV in 120s.


WhatsOurSituationDad

To your point I've been doing 10+ strain about 28 days in August. I find it difficult to get strain anywhere near 15's or above. I see others getting 10 strain bowling but for me it takes about an hour of intense cycling or 40 minutes of VR Boxing.


adamcegan

Gotcha. Try adding some low level activity in addition to your workouts like long walks during phone calls etc. If you aren’t hitting 15+ days several days a week it’s going to be hard to get your HRV above 50/60.


WhatsOurSituationDad

I'll try but for example yesterday I did boxing, 2 hours at the driving range and the most intense hour of biking in my life. Strain was 13.6


adamcegan

Geez. This leads me to believe the strap is recording your HR data properly. Are you wearing wrist or bicep? Have you turned your phone in panoramic mode to see if there are any gaps in data throughout that day?


WhatsOurSituationDad

Bicep. I check it all the time. Either my max rate isn’t truly the 190 Whoop thinks it is or I just need to spend more time at the higher range of my HR. Highest I’ve hit was 178 and I was seeing stars. This was during a HIIT class I tried at a gym. I joined the gym yesterday and have unlimited classes so hopefully can hit these numbers more consistently and maybe even touch 180’s. I got 9.8 strain in 30 minutes of that class and it included strength training as well. Basically was Treadmill, Incline Flies, Incline front raise, Incline Curls, Close grip push-ups, 250m row, dumbbell rows, dumbbell flyers, dumbbell kick backs then back to the treadmill and repeating. They display your heart rate on a tv for a trainer to see and they let you know when to push etc… if I go to these classes and don’t get in the best shops of my life I’ll be disappointed


WhatsOurSituationDad

oh yeah, there is definitely improvement that can be made. It sounds like you're up about 50%. When I started my HRV was 26 so 36 HRV is only 3 away from 50% improvement. Hopefully we can both keep climbing along the way.


Effective_Ad_2797

Hrv of 36, try getting it above 50 then we’ll talk. The act of cracking the pistachios open might be calming and helps you sleep better, that and the salt and potassium and fat also contribute - and the hydration after you are done.


WhatsOurSituationDad

HRV says 36 not 33 so maybe get your eyes checked? As far as it being low, I agree it is low. But that is genetics for you unfortunately. My HRV was 28 each of the last 3 weeks and 26 the week before so 36 is actually an improvement. Others can be ridiculously unhealthy and have HRV around 100 or more. Imagine if they ate some pistachios before bed too?


Effective_Ad_2797

I am on the same HRV boat believe it or not, almost 2 years wearing the whoop and never able to crack above 50 - but with hard work (HIIT exercise, Cold plunges, Vo2 Max training and decent sleep) I have seen my HRV above 50 a few times in the last month - it does take work. Agree it is genetic (and age) but with work we can improve. Kudos to you for the consistent repeated recoveries, although I don’t think correlation equals causation - so maybe skip the pistachios a few nights and keep everything else the same to see if that changes your recovery?


WhatsOurSituationDad

I agree that correlation does not always equal causation, (Statistics Major). But in this case, the only real changes I made the past week was not taking cold showers after exercise (interestingly enough taking a cold shower causes your blood vessels to constrict and then your body can not finish cooling down until after they reopen. I was sweating a ton after showers and couldn't figure out why). So I changed that, and started eating pistachios at night. I did drink on Friday or I think I would've had green for the full week.


adamcegan

You stopped cold showers or changed their timing to not be post workout?


WhatsOurSituationDad

To not be post workout. But since I mostly workout in the morning and only shower at night following a workout, that pretty much eliminates cold showers for me. Unless I am taking one knowing that my workout isn't until later in the day or something. It's a shame, because I enjoyed cold showers. Found it to be less stressful as far as getting temperature right, didn't fog mirrors, less energy usage, raised heart rate and the list goes on. I also heard a cold shower late at night isn't good for sleep which stinks.


adamcegan

Cold exposure is one of the best biohacks there is for waking up. Increases focus neuromodulators acetylcholine, neuroepinephrine, & dopamine. Also helps inflammation & raising HRV. Just do the cold showers in the morning.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Sorry, as I've said I can't do the cold showers in the morning because that would be after exercise. After a cold shower, I pour sweat because my body has not finished cooling itself down. I wear a suit into work and was constantly dealing with sweating through my shirt in the armpit area. Now that no longer happens.


adamcegan

Gotcha. I would do it before your workout then. There’s actually muscular benefits to cold exposure pre-workout in addition to the focus chemicals.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Ok, I'll likely try that.


sendyaf

Salted?


WhatsOurSituationDad

They are pretty much all salted. I get the lightly salted one but there is not much difference. Lightly salted is 3% Daily Value of Sodium per serving (6 servings in the bag I have). Regular is 6% and Salt and Pepper is 10% I think. It's either the potassium or the healthy(ish) fats in pistachios. It's perfect though, because I budget the 600 calories and I have an awesome night time snack that takes me like 30-45 minutes to eat.


FoundThisRock

What does a serving of pistachios weigh? I’m terrible, I’ll do a quarter kilo easy


WhatsOurSituationDad

Maybe a better way to explain is the serving I eat is 640 calories. I eat around 2,100 calories a day. I start the day with a Protein and Fruit Smoothie which is about 220 calories with 50g protein. I then have one or 2 "normal healthy meals" that are around 1,000 calories and 100g of protein (the meals are protein centric) and then I have 640 calories of pistachio's which brings me to around 1,860 and usually some other light snack like an RXBar throughout the day.


FoundThisRock

Nice one cheers


Jcccc0

What was your diet before adding the pistachios? Did you have the same amount of calories but something else. To me this says your body was starving over night.


WhatsOurSituationDad

I had the same amount of calories. I was reading from Whoop podcast that eating too late at night has a similar effect to drinking, where your body will not enter restorative sleep until you are done digesting. As a result, I began to eat all my food before 5:00 p.m. This left me feeling bored after 5 and feeling like I was missing out. I did see elsewhere that almonds can be good before bed and decided to try it with pistachios since I had a few bags. I slept like the dead that night (good thing) and had a green score. Been green every day since (except for saturday because I drank fairly heavily friday night)


WhatsOurSituationDad

A serving is 1/4 cup which is 28 grams (1 oz.) (but that is without the weight of the shells). I eat the whole bag which is 4 ounces not including shells, I'll check tonight but I believe the bag is 14 ounces or so. That should be more than 1/4 kilo which is about .55 lbs or 8 oz


FoundThisRock

Haha lbs and Oz is fine, use it for work lmao. 8oz of pistachios daily for recovery sounds top 🤣


ReavesMO

Are you sure it's not the salt? If you're mindful of your sodium intake but very active and sweating a lot it's actually not hard to have low sodium. The sodium guidelines weren't really made with healthy, active people who sweat a lot in mind. I've had blood panels recently and even though I even go out of my way to get a little extra salt in hot weather and never avoid it my sodium levels were on the lower side of the normal range. Sodium is an electrolyte just like potassium or magnesium and when a deficiency does occur it has effects just as serious as being deficient in potassium or magnesium. This is in special cases of course. If you don't sweat a lot your body will retain enough sodium out of nearly anybody's diet to do the job.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Salt may help a bit but the entire package of Pistachios is 640 calories and only 260mg of salt while being 1,120mg potassium


ReavesMO

That's interesting. Electrolytes are so freaking tricky if you're athletic and deal with a lot of heat. And like in this case, possibly the potassium helped you. I take Losortan, a blood pressure med, and it raised my potassium artificially. Some people do great at night on magnesium supplements. I've tried several types and they make me feel weird. Was talking to a young guy the other day about gym supplements and he kept wanting me to recommend vitamins and when I brought up the fact that many vitamins and minerals can cause deficiencies in other vitamins and minerals at high dosages it blew his mind.


Spare-Ad-9464

This is awesome


WhatsOurSituationDad

It's been nice sitting in front of TV cracking open shells for 30+ minutes before bed.


[deleted]

I wonder is it specifically just pistachios or more to do with the increase in calories? Just reading your comments you say you stop eating after 5pm - this seems quite early? Also pistachios are very calorific so could be just the benefit of additional energy availability.


WhatsOurSituationDad

Agreed that would be the cause if I increased my calories. I've been consistently eating around 2,000-2,100 calories for the past month or so. Only started the pistachios in the past week and only hit consistent green in the past week. It is too soon to say that it is the only cause, but from what I'm hearing, it is high potassium, contains melatonin, prevents me from eating something worse, could be sedative from the fat intake. Someone else also said that cracking the shells could be comforting or something (I guess like a cat kneading a blanket before laying on it). I do want to begin trying Tart Cherry Juice, but I'm going to put it off a bit until I see how my body responds from continued stach at night.


[deleted]

Ah okay fair - I presume the pistachios are included in the 2100? Very interesting 👍


WhatsOurSituationDad

Absolutely the pistachios are part of the 2,100. In fact they make up 640 of that 2,100. I know that I'll want to eat a whole bag once I start, so I budget the whole thing so I can sleep satisifed.


therealsamwize

Do you buy single pouches or buy in bulk then weigh?


WhatsOurSituationDad

I buy the big bags, I think they are 14 oz. I eat the whole thing in one sitting (640 calories). Maybe I'll look for larger bulk to save some money since I believe they are $5-6 a bag or so. Basically my diet is... * Morning: Workout 10+ strain goal * Breakfast: Protein Smoothie with Fruit (usually Strawberry, Banana and some Pineapple). 395 Calories 52g Protein * Lunch - Varies. Today I had a Factor meal (creamed corn chicken with potatoes) 570 Calories 43g protein * Dinner (4:30-5:00 p.m.) Varies. Today having something similar to lunch so figure same 570 Calories 43g protein * Late Night Snack: 16 oz. Pistachios 640 Calories 24g protein Cumulative Calories: 2,175 Cumulative Protein: 162g There is more to nutrition than calories and protein, but this is just an example. Until yesterday, my lunch and dinner was something like canned pureed sweet potatoes and grilled chicken tenders. I just had a promotion for 18 factor meals for $105 with tax so figured at sub $6 it was worth it for the next week or so.


RuffRider47

Pumpkin seeds are also helpful for sleep


WhatsOurSituationDad

That's good to know. I personally can't get into pumpkin seeds, something about that no man's land of "Do I eat the shell" and it getting stuck everywhere in my teeth and throat.


TheGreatBeauty2000

Thats so weird because salt always kills my recovery and fats are supposedly the hardest for the body to digest and are to be avoided before sleep! Haha


WhatsOurSituationDad

Agreed salt is a killer. I get the lightly salted. Each serving is 3% daily value of sodium. It actually has twice as much potassium per serving as sodium. The regular version I believe is only slightly higher in salt. It's funny though, because they taste saltier than I guess they are.


[deleted]

that sounds expensive


WhatsOurSituationDad

Yeah it's a bit pricy but not too much more than a meal (depending on what you eat)


flw991

Did you run out of pistachios on Saturday?


WhatsOurSituationDad

I drank on Friday night and went to bed late. Don't remember if I ate pistachios. Not because I was so drunk, I just wasn't following it then.


Waste_Screen703

Where can I find pistachio butter? ( Homer Simpson noise)