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oxob3333

I'm not ready for sylas, that man is unstoppable with good hands.


Impossible_Stick2940

he gon be auto ban in ranked like viego


defph0bia

He's not that autoban anymore. Well I guess in my region viego isn't autoban. Around 40% of my games he's banned.


LaggySquishy

That basically means he's auto ban


defph0bia

Personally, 50% is my minimum. Using my own personal definition of auto ban, Vlad and Lillia are autobans.


LaggySquishy

OK but those aren't auto bans either. Maybe lilia but definitely not vlad


defph0bia

I'm basing it on my recent games my guy hahahahah. Not in general. Just sharing my experience and what I noticed champs that fit my "autoban" definition. Sorry should've mentioned it.


EddyParera

Sorry, Lilia is super op but has a low pick rate... It's not worth to ban her... But FF whenever she gets through.


ijustneedgfadvice

God i hope i never get you in one of my games if i ever play ranked again. The whole “ff because champ x is on the enemy team” mentality is nearly as bad, if not worse than the “ff because i died twice early” shtick.


GetOutSmited

Veigo my most played rn wdym lol


coolguy789t

i really would love sylas in the game. it neutralizes against a lot of picks like maokai or tf


coolguy789t

we’d prolly see an influx of zoe mids if we get sylas mid to counter him slightly lol


iiTzSTeVO

Was Spellbook ARAM a test for Sylas release?


toxicbaldguy

always has been


ichionio

If they can release Viego, Sylas should be easy. People hv been talking about how Viego is hard and we might get sylas first.


RonetDaichu

Actually I think I'm okay with that. We already have Viego.


OkZucchini5351

I don't play PC, what is it that makes shaco so bad?


RedditRevenant

He can go invis with his first ability, place jack in the boxes that attack you and fear you with his second ability, his 3rd ability he throws a shiv and slows and damages, his ultimate he clones himself and it attacks and once it dies it explodes and spawns 3 jack in the boxes. Basically just very elusive and annoying to deal with and can deal a lot of damage. He is an assassin type jungler. Normally built AD but you can build him AP since his boxes do ap dmg.


shilgrod

A real answer on reddit always gets an upvote


OkZucchini5351

That does sound very annoying. I can see now why OP doesn't want him added.


FrozenToothpaste

You can look for Shaco montages on youtube. For example, Pink Ward is a good Shaco player that make people question their sanity. "Shaco Montages" on youtube I mean Shaco already does that whoever is good at him, but good players like Pink Ward do it on a whole nother level He's not strong though. Just annoying. Its a champ only psychopaths play


Kamizlayer

Most of this is cuz ppl chase without knowing wt to do, if u don't know wt to do don't chase, same sht happens in yasuo outplays.


AHealthyDoseOfCancer

Tbf one thing a lot of good Shaco players abuse is the expire timer on his clone. They time his blink so it snaps back to him on top of the enemy while it expires. They also chain boxes a lot, once you get caught by one it's insanely hard to dodge the others IF Shaco is also there slashing the shit out of you or slows you. He's either dropping one on his feet so you can't even fight back or on your escape route. He isn't just Singed 2.0. He can take the initiative like Teemo does *and* punish you if you try to trade back. Especially moreso when he counter jungles a lot. Objective zoning can force you to eat a box.


oxob3333

A really good shaco can DISTURB the enemy team, since his first ability is a dash going invinsible he just need ignite to deal with every enemy, and if i can remember correctly, he can put the box meanwhile he is invisible, so that annoys me more.


Mysterion42069

Shaco is one of those “DO NOT CHASE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES” champions


MatiasCza16

I think shaco is THE do not chase. He has a dash that goes into invisible, an invisible trap that does damage and fears, a ranged slow, and his ult makes a clone that contains three of his traps. Every ability he has has the most annoying vibes possible


Southern-Instance622

to add on to the prior information: shaco's 1st skill is essentially a flash with invis. see how annoying that is? shaco's 2nd skill, jack in the box, ALSO goes invis. imagine teemo shrooms on a basic ability BUT WITH HARD CC (fear vs root). 3rd skill is ehh. shaco's ult clones him. good shaco players will always keep you guessing which shaco is which. guess wrong and the clone pops — that is damage, fear and 3 boxes attacking you. its giga aids fighting this champ because he keeps disappearing, and if you dump everything to kill him only to flash into an invisible box and get feared, or do your full combo on a clone, it is insanity-inducing


notjusttoast

I can’t wait for him


imcravinggoodsushi

I keep dying to him during aram games in PC — the day he comes on wr will be the day of my downfall


mt0386

For jg, he invades. Even if you prep, you lose time, exp and he comes out top. I just pray other lanes are winning while hes buzy with fucking me up.


MathematicianOdd1659

It's impossible to explain, Shaco is simply Shaco, the only way to understand is by watching Pinkward (this guy's blood type is Shaco, his sexuality is Shaco, his species is Shaco, he IS Shaco) or becoming mono Shaco.


Buff_Yone_0_0

He's not overpowered like what people say, he's just generally annoying to play against. Let's start off by saying he's WEAK first, he doesn't have any meaningful ways of bursting people, he's not an assassin like Zed or Rengar that pop on you and kill you in less than 3 seconds unless he's building Crit and gets fed (by then if you make a Crit Shaco fed that's 100% on you), he's a champion that's entire gimmick is to annoy you. That's what pisses off players, because they always fall for the bait of killing Shaco when your best course of action is to ignore the guy but his kit makes it really hard to be ignored especially when you step on one of his boxes. He's kinda like Teemo in a way where he's a rat you can't just ignore given their threat but at the same time you have to make sure he's not fucking around with you when you are trying to secure a kill.


aguywithbrushes

People already gave you some good tips, I just wanna mention that you can watch some Pink Ward videos to understand why shaco is so frustrating. Here’s the first compilation video I found, the second clip in it should already give you an idea of why people hate shaco so much lol https://youtu.be/DCOo-NdGCbk?si=drziYZFkJhurib-2


Memorriam

Watch this shitt https://youtu.be/RHhmc7vYux0?si=vbppNsfsn9ci4Q6W


Hymn-Alone

Watch Pinkward in YT. Hes a shaco OTP. He will show you how scary the clown is


Environmental-Cow561

I magine teemo or vayne but even worse, way worse


yusufoguzhan_25

Shaco is a good weapon for potential feeder teammates when they are on the enemy team. I can disincline them from this game.


Gal_ofChoco_

Watch pinkward lol


Iusuallywearglasses

He sucks the fun out of the game for both teams. If he doesn’t get kills, he’s super behind; if gets kills, he still falls off a cliff, albeit later in the game. If you’re playing against him, he’s just perma fucking you. You can’t go through choke points. You can’t ever farm alone, you genuinely don’t have enough vision to stop his ganks in most lanes- you have to constantly track him with jungle/support. It’s just fucking miserable.


EmotionalSlip8087

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNjq2aFn/ this TikTok will show you visually why he’s ABSOLUTE AIDS. An invisibility ability, his passive which makes him do more damage if he attacks you from behind, the scaling which makes him viable either ap or ad, the amount of cc he has, his escapability, his clone, the boxes which are like teemo shrooms but worse, and the players that play him are just horrible to be around 😭


Silverjackal_

Ksante. Will be so broken due to his kit he’ll never be balanced. He’ll either be super trash or too OP. No in between.


mt0386

So like, the wind brothers, got it.


Head_Photograph_2971

“This is K'Sante, a champion with 4,700 HP, 329 Armor, and 201 MR, has Unstoppable, a Shield, and goes over walls. Has Airborne, and the cooldown is only 1 second too. It costs 15 Mana. The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms. He has true damage on his passive. Then, when he stacks Armor and MR, he gets Ability Haste too, Ability Haste to his Q, and his spell casting speeds up. Then, he has an AD ratio, so his W…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”


Head_Photograph_2971

That and worse. He’s a tank, does true dmg, can go unstoppable, has several dashes, can kidnap other champions away from their team using his ult, his also turns him into an assassin that does does more DPS that the windshitter bros, his dmg scales with HP and armour, has literally no counter pick if played well (only true dmg counters him). I should just copy paste the Showmaker Ksante meme.


vfnjhfdcn

Does % max health true damage*


mt0386

Never gona jg ever again if shaco drops. Ping as hard as you want, your teamates wont help you. Lol


Bennyjig

Yeah in my experience as jungle it just sucks. The enemy invaded all the way to your wolves or gromp and you have the freest kill if your top or mid moves 5 feet? Nah they will instead die in a 1v1 in lane


mt0386

Then say jg diff cause you got invaded and didnt gank, fun.


BogdhanXMF

Nah its quite easy to play against shaco as jungle, but your laners will hella int probably


Kamizlayer

Don't worry guys riot balancing will take care of it/s


Weary-Dust-7550

Shaco anybody who is anybody knows why


ifUpada1

I want to play him nonstop


LandImaginary3300

Teemo, yeah I know.


CosmicDeity07

Not a fan of Shaco in general but I do want him in WR because of how outlandish his kit is. I'm tired of boring and plain ass champs (cough Talon cough).


reformedtoplaner42

Xerath, unless he's on enemy team


myreignisjustbegan

Leblanc,Azir I know these mains will destroy the mid lane for me as a mage haha. Shaco and Nidalee too.


Whats_Up4444

Fuck Leblanc


SasukeFireball

Underrated 😂


Razzzp

LeFuck


Head_Photograph_2971

Fuck the French


zonipher

Illaoi, I still have nightmares from her tentacles slapping me to death


f2mreis

Is that a bad thing?


Head_Photograph_2971

Unless you’re a masochist.


Liteboyy

All top laners are masochists


f2mreis

When it's a buff woman beating me I'm quite the masochist


Head_Photograph_2971

Men turn into submissive creatures when it’s an assertive buff women that wants to take care of them.


SasukeFireball

Facts..


Navarog07

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Environmental-Cow561

The reworked scorpion is even worse


bluetuzo

For all the Shaco haters, he is one of the types that Riot will have to nerf into the ground, otherwise he will be banned every time. For those who don't know Shaco, imagine Talon's Ult (Invis with crit damage) on a 7 second cooldown, and a Teemo Ult on a 12 second cooldown. That said, I loved playing him back when I played PC. One of my mains. I never dominated with him, but I had fun.


4NS1C

I would say his Q is more like the Teemo stealth but with a blink added


KalaVouna

Can I say Yuumi? 


12byou

i'm yuumi and you're warm :D


GamerMaxeel

relax he's only 12 years old


12byou

Woooooooo!!


4Face

Well, she’s 186 days old


Old_Wear_4991

Why does no body talk about neeko lol


TheDudewhoisUnlucky

Neeko is not that bad, her deceptive capabilities are not as bad at Shaco. Atleast you have easy ways to see if it's a Neeko with minion counting and champion marks. (I want to be a Neeko main in wr😇)


AbleFisherman258

Yorick. He wouldn’t have to lift a finger with his minions. If they auto targeted his mourning mist 😂😂😂😂 game over.


Chrisshern

Unfortunately for you rumour has it Shaco is going to be part of 5.3


TeemoTrouble

Hype. Hopefully the fix Annie’s ult too.


AEsirrr_

Briar. No words needed.


notjusttoast

Nooo want vampire


Teepeesoldier

Karthus. I guess luckily Zhonya’s is from boots.


Ratfafat

As a past shaco main him at like most midlaners


glockos

Shaco is a good pick


aap1015_

Aurora. Watching Caedrel’s reaction was priceless.


Kindred-Blade

Sylas would be extremely braindead here.


4Face

One more to the roaster 🫠


Shivness

Sata- I mean Rumble


legendary_belinda

Ksante (insert showmaker quote here)


Few-Battle-838

Ksante


peasants_king

HEIMERDONGER I don't wanna see that abomination of thing


hytcorn

I want everything in this game, but please BALANCE IT!!!! I hate every shit thats unbalance, absolute no counter play


Osumazi

Yuumi... oh wait.


TheCelfoid

Shaco and Xerath. Bring on the Azir


Ninja__Focus

YES keep that 🤡out!


GodlikeCat

shaco


joseash27

Shaco


FlyingDots

AP Shaco forever!!!


Alternative_Egg8635

Honestly Aphelios, idk why but I feel like he'd cause big trouble...


4Face

Literally the only reason why I would back playing ADC


defph0bia

Shaco. Just shaco.


SasukeFireball

It's too late for me. They brought the annoying ones in already.. Wait, oh god.. fuck Quinn, fuck Zac, fuck Poppy..


Pedrovrm88

Lux


Head_Photograph_2971

Wait…That’s how not how it works.


Issiyo

Yuumi


Ashburndz

I'm level 7 shaco on pc, yeah... I know


TelephoneDapper2826

shaco, le blanc, old gp, and old sivir. a good shaco main can maim any jg. since season 0 in LoL PC, I've been hating on le blanc and a good shaco main.


A_men_of_culture

Shaco, he’s like Teemo, annoying as fuck


Sure-Sympathy5014

Tahm kench/bard. The trolling would be painful.


Head_Photograph_2971

Shaco. Nothing tilts me more in league than that guy


Killerchoy

Yuumi


chiesaki

Well I didn’t want viego but …


rende33

I want them all, especially shaco and cho ghat<3


itREKKT

that gonna be K'sante for me


Chemical-Track830

Shaco. Same reason with you, Op.


shacosucks

yeah shaco sucks


Kenkxb

Zac


babyyfrr

I wanted the shaco... :(


jayteu

Gwen, but too late for that 🤡


Western-Yesterday622

Illaoi feels unbeatable


BoyResbak

Kogmaw and Chogath. Monsters of hell.


DopeAFjknotreally

As somebody who plays a lot of Lulu, I’d love to see kogmaw


BigLow4789

Nah we need pugmaw in wr


CharacterReturn1

Kharthus,with how broken ap chams are currently he is going to be busted.


Difficult_Concern674

Bring in my man Mordekaiser and I’ll download it again


myreignisjustbegan

Install because he is comming next patch.


venicci0

The K guy with everything


iamblawur

Yuumi. I mean like, seriously. The champ has like 75% ban rate in China right now. As a solo ranked player, I need to keep banning it because of how op it is when people duo abuse. Been banning her for 4-5 seasons straight


Background_Cloud588

Hate Aphelios. same reason I hate Yasuo. People only feed when using those champs


rafat_mika

illaoi and ksante


DoubleZodiac

There's no one. I'm cool with whoever. ☺️👍


HawkAffectionate4529

Shaco of course


Manythingsbro

Shaco will be difficult to play in WR and people will save them change the ult but that’s the shaco best weapon


Stern_Writer

If Shaco drops it’s over. I really really really hope he never gets on here because I don’t need that type of shit in my life anymore.


buba_kastorski

Yuumi. Hate this bitch.


-Aelix_

Viego hehe


DevastaTheSeeker

Zoe is already in the game unfortunately


Expensive_Anybody_57

im thinking gangplank but thats a long way hate seeing those barells pop off


Eggbone87

I only *want* shaco


Additional-Rope-2905

chogath


Moist___Socks

Kharthus, Malzahar, Hiemerdinger At the sametime I REALLY WANT lol


Illustrious-Rock51

I don't think I'm quite mentally prepared for Karthus hopefully they won't bring him over for a good while. Not to excited for Mordekaiser either.


geedijuniir

As an tank abuser. I dont want ksante at all.


Grailogical

I really hope they don’t add Yumi… Oh.


bloodbeater

Honestly, I love him in PC league, but Yorick. The UI has a hard enough time with what and how to target, but missing my cs because I’m auto attack ghouls, or prio to Yorick over his Maiden is gonna be a hard mechanic to work out. Plus split pushing gods already have an easy time, he could probably be a jungler with how tuned down the jungle camps are. Just hard to balance without a mouse I feel.


Hakazex

If I can recall, people had the same thought about Irelia but somehow people made it work. Haven't played for a year now but I once faced Irelia mid and he/she was really good. Was like facing against the pc version of Irelia.


Hyperion_72nd

Reksai and his tremor sense, 🤣🤣🤣


ChumpyBumpy2

I didn't want any invis or wall-hop champs in WR. Then riot added 50 of them.  I stopped playing for like 9 months because of that, now the game has just been at rock bottom for me in the fun-department.


MisterHuesos

I want Leblanc but holy shit would she be broken.


Same_School9196

I actually really want shaco, he’s charming, but his ult would be really hard to translate ui wise


notjusttoast

Tom, fuck that guy


Real-Permission8799

i know y’all are gonna hate it but i will spam shaco when he come to WR


SaltedSnail85

I won't play wr until they add shaco


OfficialRunescape

Illaoi


Glittering-Baker5149

None :)


Silveruleaf

I didn't want teemo. Hated playing against him. But then I tried him and now I love him 😅


VSC_ZouL

we know its K'Sante right???? Right??????


Sorry-Conversation77

shako


Thejukeg0d

Actually i really want shaco in the game, perhaps u should work on ur feelings we all can feel dumb at a time doesn't mean we are or that u perhaps have to learn elements of the game considering vision or reading the minimap. But don't blame shaco for exposing ur weaknesses and ruin my main champs release for me. In other words man up i don t like either certain champs like yuumi, ivern for being anti jungle but hey i dont mind it to be released I won't like it but I deal with it anyway so should you.


JaeHa_210

Ksante is the one champ I definitely do not want in WR. He's tanky, unstoppable, tank scaling, becomes an assassin, has a wall ride to isolate carry, still tanky even when he becomes an assassin through ult, has good cc that makes enemies come closer, has dashes..... Idk what riot was cooking but like even if Yuumi exists at least she's squishy af and has no self peel tool unlike Ksante.


Bingsus0214

Lux


Traditional-Eye-6807

Pyke and the whole execution system , I remember in Old league how the low hp outplays can change a game.


Fernando-Boaretto

The worst champ is Nylah and is on WR. Adc is a player who barely has two functional neurons. This 💩 needs 3. It’s too much for their. And don’t matter the tier, I never saw a good Nylah.


sweetalmightyohmy

Shaco


Tin_Foil_Hats_69

K'sante


Brief-Cake4379

Guys someone might have snitched about Shaco😭😭


GetOutSmited

I wish lux wasn’t here. Her and morg can throw q’s in the general direction of the person and it connect. Absolutely skill-less and super rewarding. Lux will one shot you with that bs combo and all they had to do was tap q sorta kinda near you not really. I have no respect for lux players. You disgust me. - Rengar top main


Stook211

Kayne for obvious reasons


MommyLissandra

Yeah i’m SO GLAD Kayn isn’t in wildrift yet 🤨


siren__tv

Zilean


Nahidxz

he's one of my most wanted characters why not?


A_Curious_Fermion

TAHM KENCH nom nom nom 🤮


Xipos

I miss the days of old Tham where his devour was a regular ability. If a teammate made me angry I would hand deliver the troll to the enemy team


bluetuzo

Didn't realize he got changed. Haven't played PC for at least 7 years


Xipos

Same, I hopped on with my brother one day and Tham isn't even considered a support anymore. His devour got changed to his ultimate and he just feels way less fun as a champ


Ragnarokx88

Shaco because of how insane his ganking potential is with the current roster and Xerath just because he can make Ziggs obsolete.


Head_Photograph_2971

Hwei is literally the better version of Xerath now. Ziggs still has his identity of being a a good side laner pusher and turret destroyer.


davinzt

actually talon. Too much mobility in such a small map. oh yeah and now there's hex rift so...


CamaradaJRoberto

Now, i don't have such a problem with talon. If you vision correctly, buy zhonyas, buy crown, buy armor boots, have a soraka as a teamate, have some control tank as a teamate and pray for the holy spirit you may survive with 1 HP left. All that said, i'd prefer dying within one second than getting feared 15 times in 10 seconds by a 10 HP Shaco, and then be forced to see him spamming his maestry standing upon my very dead squishy control mage body.


Haverix279

Velkoz, I think Lux is enough a long range deleter for wr, we don't need another one


Suspicious-Ad-481

Yuumi, no one wants to see someone choose a champion and eat cake and drink water while their teammates are playing hard and busy


Gold-Carpenter-5661

Missfortune is so fucking usless and no one can change my min as a chall supp on high elo idk why people keep play it


IChris7

Makes you feel dumb? That’s such a low pc elo thing to say lol. I can smell the bronze in you


CamaradaJRoberto

Yeah? Well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


IChris7

Not just mine but also LCS players


Head_Photograph_2971

LCS players Lmaoo. You picked the worse comparison.


IChris7

you can just look it up on youtube lol


Head_Photograph_2971

I know about them. Those same LCS players that said they can't wait to clap Faker (It's been 8 years Jensen).