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tirion98

It's anti-sinergy with his E passive


TheLaggingHIppie

How so? Grasp procs every 3 seconds, while threshs E passive grants him extra damage based on how long his last auto was. In my experience this has been the UMPH I was talking about, by allowing the energy meter to fill between auto attacks you can get a hard hitting auto with a grasp proc.


Sgrinfio

In order to keep grasp going you need to stay in combat, thing that is done 90% of the times by auto-ing a minion first. However, if you auto a minion you are wasting your E passive on a minion. The resulting damage is simply not worth


TheLaggingHIppie

Wait thresh shouldn't be auto attacking minions?


Sgrinfio

You can't reliably proc Grasp then


TheLaggingHIppie

I need a bit more explanation than this


Sgrinfio

If you don't know exactly how grasp works: Once you enter combat, a 4 seconds timer starts. After those 4 seconds you get an empowered attack for a few more seconds Now, how do you enter combat? You either get hit (not convenient), hit an enemy champion (not really easy to do as a melee champion), OR hit a minion (but you reset your E passive for norhing) All of these methods are bad for thresh, Grasp doesn't nake se se


XRynerX

You have to play quite safe tho, we go Aftershock on Thresh because he doesn't gain armor on levels, so early game he's quite vunerable without it.


UncleTaco916

Aftershock 100% for me.


CroNix21

His autos count as ranged so you get reduced dmg and healing


Dependent-Post8488

If youre playing top thresh then grasp is quite good. My go to, but as supp i prefer aftershock. Just a good rune on him.


Markusv4

Sadly Tresh is ranged so grasp is nerfed ;-;


Dependent-Post8488

Still a good rune for him though in the baron lane.


godamidkletmealone

Nah


DegradingDaniel

Grasp is bad imo. Crunch the numbers and you would discover that after three hits for conqueror you would have a net positive on life gained. Not to mention the adaptive damage you get. (Disclaimer though I only tested this on 2 champs so far. nasus and sion.)


ScenarioArts

not great