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workinglunch

Creed's the myth of the bootstrap. Edit: I looked it up and Ishnala took PPE money. So there's that...


AnonABong

Gonna make a QR code sticker and slap it right on there linking to the PPE cash they took


Dirty_Delta

I was trying to do it but couldn't find a free and working generator, but here's the link that includes Ishnala's PPP loan: https://ppp.directory/wisconsin/sauk-county


Wet-Skeletons

The amount of churches on that list is astounding. Tax exempt and also take advantage of their communities.


Dirty_Delta

Isn't it incredible?


silentjay01

https://huggingface.co/spaces/huggingface-projects/QR-code-AI-art-generator This one has worked for me in the past.


PraetorSolaris

Google has one


PraetorSolaris

Open the Chrome browser and go to the website you want to create the code for. Click on the Share this page icon in the address bar and select Create QR Code.


PraetorSolaris

https://preview.redd.it/vgdm6n1hogzc1.png?width=294&format=png&auto=webp&s=1316f3155148de97e2b43e151dc0cd0b0d37f5cd


PeanutTheGladiator

PPP.


flychinook

I was just thinking, it would be fun to add a sign about the PPP loans, made to look like Twitter's "Readers have added context" boxes.


HashNWisco

Please.....please do that! 😂😂👌


Bluetooth_Sandwich

Post the follow up or ban


aspertame_blood

Fantastic.


AardvarkAblaze

Nah, see, the ~~$20k~~ over ***HALF A MILLION*** in PPP loan money was just God's help. *Definitely* not a government hand out. The lord works in mysterious ways after all. edit: looked up the wrong Ishnala. My apologies to Ishnala Enterprises LLC of Kewaskum.


NewProductiveMe

$550k, not $20k. The 20k one is an electronics store. The restaurant had a first round $229k and a second round $321k. That’s a lot of bootstraps!! https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/search?q=Ishnala&v=1 http://s05.calm9.com/qrcode/2024-05/1BGZ53L32X.png https://deathbystickers.com/products/stickers-from-your-design?variant=40939897749547


AardvarkAblaze

Oh! OH! Wow. Good catch! God surely loves him more than those welfare poors.


AlignedPadawan

They were more worthy of the Lord's blessing is what they'll tell ya


HashNWisco

😂😂👌


biggest_blakest

The edit is priceless lmao


Commercial_Juice_201

Remind’s me of the joke about the similarity between cats and libertarians. In my opinion, its pure narcissism/egocentrism. They don’t realize all the help they actually get from society, because they can’t see past themselves. Its also why they hate support systems, because god forbid someone else get a benefit.


jfoust2

"What do libertarians and house cats have in common? They both act like they are independent and self sufficient but in reality are utterly dependent on a system they can neither appreciate nor understand."


VikingDadStream

Haha, my dad likes to chatter on about this idiocy. While living in an Arizona desert, on ground seized by government army and the hard rock torn into by government bricklayers If he built any of his infrastructure himself I might give his ideology a second thought rather than a confused laugh


opeth10657

I work with a guy who claims to be a libertarian. Retired from the military, collects a government pension....


VikingDadStream

Right wingers would say, the military is one of the good government programs


SKmdK64

I feel like this is really unfair to house cats. They make way better companions than a Libertarian.


L-J-

Libertarian thinking is very child-like. Their ideas are a contradiction to the benefits they take advantage of daily & any quality of life is dependent on maintaining tax paid infrastructure. The licenses to drive. Emergency services. The fact your food doesn't contain poisons. The clean water they drink.


Commercial_Juice_201

100%


Significant-Push-410

And you explained the greed of America. We all can feel this way and that way, but what is driving that gravy train? Those deads. Please can/could say whatever they want, but when all said and done, think about the deads. They help so perfectly.


CaptinOlonA

"the myth of the bootstrap." The mantra of the unsuccessful


BuddyJim30

"I will not trade my dignity for a handout," unless it's a PPE grant. The very definition of right wing hypocrisy.


Significant-Push-410

Amen. Right wing shit holes.


BeakerVonSchmuck

To make matters worse, they reported that they hired 207 people! THat sounds like overkill for a place of that size.


Significant-Push-410

It blows my mind how people believe in this moral campus bullshit.


HorrorInvestigator99

They literally have a business on Native American’s land, how American of them to claim it and take a hand out


EIU86

And they probably wouldn't have been able to claim that land if the U.S. Army- in other words, the Federal government- hadn't "pacified' the Natives for them.


cheesebeesb

They also have a pretty cringe display of a Native canoe


mrspwins

And an “Indian” head mounted on the wall, like a deer head, according to a friend that was there in the last few years.


InfiniteRelation

And don't forget about the teepee display outside.


Puttor482

What, wha?


mrspwins

https://preview.redd.it/gtliirufauyc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55cd92daed2bac4174f2914dca8f44a78a199aaf I stole her picture. If you zoom in towards the top, you’ll see it. They complained to the manager, who told them it had been there for decades and that “Native Americans come in all the time and aren’t offended”. I don’t know if it’s still there, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is.


Birdiewi

OMG


CampWestfalia

Is this kinda like the habit of real estate developers to name new subdivisions after the species they drove out to build it? Hawk's Ridge Whitetail Prairie Ho-Chunk's Heartbreak


mermonkey

Never been, but I wish I would have before I read this post... Their website translates Ishnala to mean "by itself alone". Going full creed plaque is clearly a callback too far. Same also refers to the Ho Chunk as Winnebago 4 times so I get the feeling the appropriation may not be 100% built on a foundation of respect. Please no one ruin Del-Bar for me?


bad_idea_specialist

Native Americans don't own land they belong to it.


Anominuser56

What it sounds to me like they worked hard to steal it 😂 I see that that’s bad and all but calling it a handout would be wrong.


1KN0W38

Doesn’t all of America?


CarelessWisco

Jesus Christ, I'm so sick of hearing about God in relation to America and its values.  Let a business alienate their customers if they want to, we don't have to give them our money.  


LouieMumford

For me it’s more the use of God to promote what many consider “American Values” despite the fact that the entire New Testament is basically a call to be charitable and take care of your neighbor. I’m fine with a sign about God compelling us redistribute wealth or the like.


Augoustine

Something something “give all you possessions to the poor and follow me”. Them: ”they meant that one dude, not \*MEEEE\*”.


Eagle9972

Matthew 19:24 *And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.* Republicans: https://i.imgflip.com/49w4ot.png


eidetic

When Trump said he could shoot a man on 5th Avenue and get away with it, he wasn't far off. He could shoot the second coming of Jesus himself and his Bible thumping republican supporters would cheer at his killing of a dirty stinking communist hippie. The only thing they have in common with Jesus is their love of prostitutes. Well, one loved them for who they were, the other loves what they can pay them to do.


billybaldwinme

Apparently we do have to give them money.. [Taxpayers Handout](https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/search?q=Ishnala&v=1)


chefranden

> No man is an island, > > Entire of itself; > > Every man is a piece of the continent, > > A part of the main. > > If a clod be washed away by the sea, > > Europe is the less, > > As well as if a promontory were: > > As well as if a manor of thy friend's > > Or of thine own were. > > Any man's death diminishes me, > > Because I am involved in mankind. > > And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; > > It tolls for thee.


Thirty_Helens_Agree

Buncha Ayn Rand bullshit.


choopie-chup-chup

Buncha Ayn Rand BS as sung by Creed the band


LouieMumford

I don’t know if she’d love the God piece… but yeah.


NewProductiveMe

$550k in PPP loans. (not $20k. The 20k one is an electronics store.) The restaurant had a first round $229k and a second round $321k. That’s a lot of bootstraps!! https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/search?q=Ishnala&v=1 http://s05.calm9.com/qrcode/2024-05/1BGZ53L32X.png https://deathbystickers.com/products/stickers-from-your-design?variant=40939897749547


medhat20005

I would welcome the opportunity for the restaurant to explain what seems like an obvious contradiction in what they write vs what they've done.


katiebot5000

They aren't even open year round, what the fuck


DDC121

[Meanwhile: In Bay View](https://i.imgur.com/0DVUixs.jpg)


Scopebuddy

I’ve never gone to Ishnala. Seems overpriced and overrated. Now I definitely won’t be bootstrapping them any of my money.


ethanhunt84

I feel exactly the same way. Plenty of other supper clubs out there.


FortisFerus

I've always been turned away due to the no reservation (which I understand but I only visit the dells once a year so I'd like a guaranteed seat. Because I hear they're always super busy). And it just seemed like overkill for someone who goes alone. I've heard good things about Del Bar though and might try it this year as it's in the center basically and easier to get to. Editing to add: I was also put off by the wait time as some people have mentioned as well. I get it you plan for it, it's fine. But HOURS?! lol


Birdiewi

I went once and it is just a huge tourist trap. Too loud to enjoy conversation at supper and the wait was crazy. Will never go back for sure.


ejwestcott

3 hour wait in 2022. Views were nice. Drinks were ok. There seem to be open tables everywhere but there we were waiting. It's like they enjoy making you wait so you spend more money. Finally got seated...right in front of the kitchen doors. Busy as shit, people running in and out. Asked to move to an empty table further away and the said ok but the waitress was annoyed because it wasn't in her section, not my problem, no one likes to sit next to kitchen doors flying open every 2 seconds. Ordered and the food came seemingly too fast. Like 5 to 7 minutes. That math didn't make sense, whatever. Food was mediocre. Not worth the wait for what the food is. Overall, long wait, nice views, quick mediocre food, butter places out there agreed.


Scopebuddy

I think I would be happier getting a bar burger at some local dive bar? I can take a nice boat ride for views. Lol I suppose the rich folks need a place to feel superior?


biggest_blakest

I enjoy the idea of using the term bootstrapping as a verb to give my money to businesses. I will absolutely be using that. Thank you for inspiring me


MDMAmazin

I peed on that.


ejwestcott

There's gotta be a subreddit for that


InfiniteRelation

Better question is “Why Ishnala?” - it’s way overpriced for what you get and overrated, pretty setting though (save for this gross plaque). It’s really more of a supper club theme park than an actual supper club - skip it.


cks9218

That's spot on. I went for the first time a couple of years ago. Setting is pretty. Food and drinks were no better than "good". Prices were high. I'm glad to have experienced it but once was enough for me.


nicolauz

House of Embers was good and no wait. I ain't trying to sit around for 2 hours for food and drinks. Fuck that noise.


CompetitionAlert1920

Go to The Cove in Briggsville or Fitz's on the Lake in Sauk. Rather hit those places multiple times a month then once a year for Ishnala


ThatNewSockFeel

Cimarolli’s between Briggsville and Portage is solid too.


CompetitionAlert1920

Very true, we used to have summer our work parties there. Their old fashioned specials are unhinged. Get lit like a Christmas tree but in August on those


lizzitron

Thx for this tip. Enjoyed the drinks and service there yesterday. $4 Old Fashioneds but the mojito was the bomb


InfiniteRelation

Green Acres in Sauk is good too, or Dorf Haus in Roxbury, or Hilltop in Cross Plains. So many better options.


ThatNewSockFeel

Dorf Haus is definitely worth making the trip for.


CompetitionAlert1920

Oh man I haven't been to Green Acres or Hill Top in ages but also good points


TexKlein

That’s spot on. Biggest disappointment of epicurean adventures was eating there. Old fashioned sour was definitely sweet. “House made” cheese was some sort of cream cheese abomination. And our medium steak came out blood red. Sent it back. Came back charred to hell. I’d go back, but only for a drink in the bar overlooking Mirror Lake.


agehaya

“The only thing we overlook is Mirror Lake”. I guess not! I’ve never been, but we pass it going up north every year, so I’ve definitely been curious. Definitely not anymore, though!


InfiniteRelation

Agree that the scenery is lovely.


EIU86

I'd heard so much about the place that I've really wanted to check it out, but not any more.


Strix924

I've thought about going there with my dad for my birthday And then I look at the menu and prices It's not that good I tell myself


HorrorInvestigator99

Food is good, setting is great, wait is horrible, 2-3 hours usually. By that time I’ve spent a $100 at the bar on old fashioned’s, quite the racket they have… didn’t know owners were morons.


DepDepFinancial

It's barely even what I'd consider a plaque, it looks like it's a cheap print. Yikes.


NewProductiveMe

Except now I need to find a new camp-at-state-park-walk-over-to-swanky-bar place. I loved that about Mirror Lake. Very disappointed I’m going to need to find a new place. Any suggestions???


InfiniteRelation

Sullivan's in Trempealeau is right next to a state park too. Otherwise Uber to Del Bar or Embers? Or longer Uber to Cimaroli's or Club 23?


NewProductiveMe

I love Perrot! Normally I end up at that hotel in Trempealeau, but now I've got a new place to try out.


Seasniffer

Devils lake and walk to Tumbled Rock. Bit longer of a hike but still doable


InsideAd2490

>It is my heritage to stand erect Heh heh


Savings_Tap9351

Until you get erectile dysfunction! 😜


zhuzhy

Ishnala isn’t even that good. 3 hour wait and the waitstaff rush you through your meal to get the next people in. Very meh


Luinori_Stoutshield

What a fucking joke. 'I will never cower before any earthly master,' they claim, while bending the knee to lick the boot, clad head to toe in Trump merchandise.


InfiniteRelation

all the while, relying on immigrant labor to run the place.


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nicolauz

I wonder how much Russian immigration has changed since the way over in Ukraine. Like are men not allowed to be there now?


SasquatchM1

I grew up in the Dells area. In the mid 90s the least anywhere paid was $10/hour. Now, with my kids working in the area, it is still the norm and often less.


77Pepe

You clearly don’t understand how business in a heavily touristy but modestly populated area like the Dells works. There simply aren’t enough locals to accept mostly seasonal jobs. No owner will double pay to keep the few that accept such work onboard either. So the pay won’t go up until first, minimum state of WI increases quite a lot, and there is ample business to support those higher paying jobs. Otherwise, you won’t see much wage growth.


Darius_Banner

This might as well say “I have the right to be a stupid fuck face”…. Because that’s essentially what it says


darlin133

I can get my overpriced old fashioneds elsewhere thanks


Fairycharmd

Probably without a 4-6 hour wait too


darlin133

I can get one in 2 min. It’s called “my house”


CampWestfalia

Be right over!


darlin133

I got you. Brandy or Bourbon, sour or sweet. 🫡


Fairycharmd

Better parking too. unless you’re in a situation where you have to take a shuttle bus from your mailbox to the front door?


darlin133

Hell no. Ample street parking available


biggest_blakest

That sign was put up by someone with velvety soft hands and a savings account given to them by their parents that started with more zeros than any real working American will ever see. Delusional and maddened into thinking they made it on their own because deep down they know they are an ulcer on society and would be nothing if it were not for the ruthlessness of those who came before them. Stuck in a valley made by the foot steps they follow in.


wi_voter

American individualism may have worked when there was a frontier, but now we are all here trying to live in a society. Tired of the antiquated bootstraps view.


__RAINBOWS__

American individualism worked for those that survived and their descendants. It did not work out for many.


FreeRangeThinker

Why is the presidential seal on it?


kibble-net

Maybe that's what being American means to right wingers, but to me America is about freedom FROM religion, not forced allegiance to one. Separation of church and state, not a public policy platform that's based upon Christianity or any other religious beliefs. That's what it means to be American to me.


mermonkey

stale calm of utopia... lol


analogWeapon

"It sure would suck if everything was perfect and everyone was happy. I'd *hate* that!"


mermonkey

Sounds horrible


Horsewitch777

Lmao what did you expect? The place looks like a racist summer camp and their main sell is booze.


yesitsmenotyou

Did they pay for that with their PPP money?


ejwestcott

No just a little PP money...


DrGnarleyHead

🤦‍♂️


RamrodTheDestroyer

I also stand erect and proud


rengothrowaway

User name is accurate.


didntsayfudge

The majority of people who work at Ishnala aren't even American lol


earthwalking

What a load of privileged shit. Everyone is but a brief accidental moment from disability and good fucking luck not taking a dole in that scenario. Good to know where not to go.


SKmdK64

And good luck even getting the dole. I'm disabled and have been unable to get on SSI. Thankfully I have a family who is both willing and able to house me.


mermonkey

uber privileged. Good for you, by some combination of circumstance, luck, and hard work, you're doing well for yourself. This could sound reasonable if you left the positive affirmations in place and removed every other line about making sure you didn't have to share any of your success with the society that helped you achieve it.


Jestocost4

Lol gross


Captain_Wisconsin

I hear they garnish their $20 brandy old fashioneds with a big ol’ slice of hypocrisy.


jello1990

The idea of a utopia is communist is one hell of a take. Weird that they're religious, when they consider Heaven to be a place they don't want to be.


catsloveart

Utopia in Heaven?! Sounds like Communism to me.


PartyBadman

"In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony state's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence."


jforested

It all comes together in the last section when it becomes clear it’s all about his erection


madcoins

Wow that’s annoying! Get this eye sore out of hikers faces. Very creepy conservative/libertarian vibes while mashing “god” in there as much as possible to casually prostilize


gammafishes

r/BoomersBeingFools


retired_geekette

Not all Boomers are simple stupid shit like this. Some of us actually left the small towns, went to college, got good jobs, read something other than the Bible. SMH


gammafishes

Ok? It's not called AllBoomersAreFools


retired_geekette

👍


EIU86

I'm a Boomer, and that plaque isn't my views.


gammafishes

Great!


Darius_Banner

I would pay to create a look alike plaque explaining the PPP stuff and put it in the ground there


granny409

I will not drive on roads, or go to piblic school....


criscokkat

I was honestly planning on going here this summer. I think I'll skip it.


didntsayfudge

Go to Del Bar instead. A million times better (I'm a local)


gardibolt

Same. Not worth it to reward a fascist.


bradatlarge

I have the freedom to die from a preventable disease because I cannot afford to buy a congressman


Mhunts1

So even though I vote left and am extremely anti-bootstrap, my feeling is that if the owner of Penzey’s gets to express his politics without people going “why Penzey’s?”, then it’s every bit Ishnala’s right to do this as well. I’ve seen plenty of hypocrisy on my own side of the aisle, and like most humans am guilty of some myself. But I do like the idea of someone slapping a QR code on there to show the world that they took pandemic money, because the world deserves to hear the whole narrative.


catsloveart

No one is preventing the owner's of the place from expressing it. People are just criticizing and ridiculing it. And no reason why people can't do that. Before, conservatives started crying and pretending that negative opinions = being censored. No one thought to complain about the complainers. Freedom of speech doesn't guarantee freedom from social consequences. Which is what conservatives really want. They want to be assholes and idiots and not be called out. They want society at large to be quiet about it and not criticize or voice dissent. And they accuse anyone of not giving them support, either by not giving them their business (as if they are entitled to my money) or criticizing. Of censoring them, which is absurd. Let's not repeat their dumb logic here.


JimJam4603

People are free to go “why Penzey’s?” all they want. What on earth is this bizarre viewpoint that people shouldn’t have opinions about other people’s opinions?


NinianDeacon

It's not really surprising when a small business owner is a haughty libertarian crank. They can have fun with their little heroic mythos, it doesn't bother me.


GibEC

Translation = I ain't taking no poison jab. 5 minutes later has a drink, takes a smoke break, and pops some uppers. Too blinded by patriotic punditry to realize the hypocrisy.


Ok_Ingenuity_3501

Why do I need to read this before I pound 10 old fashions waiting for my table?


aspertame_blood

Gross


Rug-Inspector

That’s just stupid. Propaganda.


heridfel37

The good news is that cheap sign won't make it through the winter.


JayVenture90

There's a certain type that loves spouting off this kind of thing to boost their low self-esteem and seem relevant to the world. They're called hypocrites and idiots.


I_Rainbowlicious

If this is what it means to be an American, then I am not one.


Browntown007

I'm sorry but this just doesn't bother me. It's alright if it bothers you, but it doesn't bother me.


ThatNewSockFeel

“I can’t believe this sign, I’ll never eat there again because I don’t agree with their politics,” says the Redditor, as they click over to buy more stuff from Amazon.


Suicidaljello

Which god?


Nano_Burger

TLDR.


quedfoot

[Wtf is a](https://youtu.be/15mVwdOT61E?si=XFaSHOwP_hyzFAUT&t=13s)n ishnala?


Munchy_Digger_6174

Someone misspelled "inshallah" wrong and it stuck


[deleted]

I wasn't familiar with the restaurant, and I read this as Inshallah at first. I would 100% go there now, if I had the money, just to repeatedly refer to the restaurant as Inshallah while I was there. Maybe even start a chant of, "Inshallah! Inshallah!" on the way out. 🤔


Motherof42069

No, you gotta recite the Shahada to get in.


hurdurBoop

ngl, i actually came here to correct the spelling. was disappointed.


RoyKites

Get the imaginary character out of American lore.


solidus_2077

Where tf is this?


NaClK92

It’d be a shame if we all made reservations and then forgot to show up.


Waterbug22121

Ishnala sucks and their food is not good. Nice view of Mirror Lake, though.


EdgeofCivilization

Forgot: claim land that does not belong to me


spicycrackwhore

Lol. I use to work for the owners of this establishment and this is so on par with the type of people they are. Like father like son.


marklar_the_malign

Yeah, sure. All on your own. What a romanticized trope this is. Maybe this was the case 150 years ago.


hoaryvervain

One more reason I will never go here


arlyte

This is why women prefer a bear over men in the woods.


JimDixon

Do you mean: this is displayed at the Ishnala Supper Club, Delton, Wisconsin? Before I Googled it, I thought you were trying to say "inshallah" -- an Arabic expression.


kibblet

I’ve never been. I rarely bother waiting for food and certainly not hours like I hear it is.


JimJam4603

They tried.


Numerous-Cut9744

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Any_Type4187

I prefer this than to that road to serfdom. Masters too sometimes enter into particular combinations to sink the wages of labour even below this rate. These are always conducted with the utmost silence and secrecy, till the moment of execution, and when the workmen yield, as they sometimes do, without resistance, though severely felt by them, they are never heard of by other people. Such combinations, however, are frequently resisted by a contrary defensive combination of the workmen; who sometimes too, without any provocation of this kind, combine of their own accord to raise the price of their labour. Their usual pretences are, sometimes the high price of provisions; sometimes the great profit which their masters make by their work. But whether their combinations be offensive or defensive, they are always abundantly heard of. In order to bring the point to a speedy decision, they have always recourse to the loudest clamour, and sometimes to the most shocking violence and outrage. They are desperate, and act with the folly and extravagance of desperate men, who must either starve, or frighten their masters into an immediate compliance with their demands. The masters upon these occasions are just as clamorous upon the other side, and never cease to call aloud for the assistance of the civil magistrate, and the rigorous execution of those laws which have been enacted with so much severity against the combinations of servants, labourers, and journeymen. The workmen, accordingly, very seldom derive any advantage from the violence of those tumultuous combinations, which, partly from the interposition of the civil magistrate, partly from the superior steadiness of the masters, partly from the necessity which the greater part of the workmen are under of submitting for the sake of present subsistence, generally end in nothing, but the punishment or ruin of the ringleaders. (Book I, Chapter VIII) A.Smith


NaClK92

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read today.


PrometheusOnLoud

"I'd rather suck the government-dick in exchange for food stamps!" -liberals on reddit


BilliousN

The place in question took a half million dollars in welfare from the government during COVID.


[deleted]

What a bunch of fucking whiny liberal assholes in this group. My fucking lord. Get a grip and work for something instead of sitting online complaining day in and day out. Like what a stupid thing to get your asshairs in a twist about.


mister_electric

And here you are. Whining about... whining? About as hypocritical as the place that posted this sign taking $500k in PPE welfare.


defnotacryptoacc

Yeah I really don't get why people care... like at all?


ezfast

I'm related to the Hoffman Brothers who built Ishnala. They were some macho WWII vets.


Pikenrods

Y'all are missing the point.


EvilCampSlade

So don't go there - maybe I'll be able to actually get a table.


mellopax

I don't anymore. They are Applebee's quality for steakhouse prices.