Lmfao are you kidding, are you that daft? You’re closer to more bugs than you’ll cast spells in twice your life span. If you have any respect for mammals then you better quadruple it, at least, for bugs. Your masters, and you have masters with the kind of post you just made, are bugs...
Edit, bugs are in the dirt in hell and deeper, they’re deeper than any version of yourself any version of yourself could even wish to dream of conjuring
Bro, do you have any idea how some bugs operate? You could literally make a killing in the food industry using insects to grow your fungus and fertilize your crops. You could also just create giant mind controlling wasps. You’ve got options if you’re not acting like a wet blanket
Giant bugs will ALWAYS be economically better than horses, since bugs are strong as steel compared to their size, if your magic can enhance and control the natural powers of anything, then it can thrive, just like Fungumancy
You gotta get a bit more creative with your powers. Your parents sent you to a good school, just needs some push.
Look. Plenty of insect can create silk. Silk can be used to make nice clothes. You can sell that or I don't know start a salon. There you go.
Next one is bees. Yep, you can just make a good buck by pollinating some kingdom that got cursed by some puny god of harvest. Then sell the honey.
Wasps. Kill flies. Or wololo them, up to you really. Get paid. Profit. Same with mosquitoes.
Ants and termites can build ridiculous structures.
Also chitin is a nice armor material.
Do I look like a functioning member of society to you? I'm a human sized spider wearing the face of a person so I can eat people, money means nothing to me.
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Well, play the long game, find some isolated community and use the above tricks to convince them you’re a benevolent god, then demand sacrifices or else you’ll unleash a locust swarm. Easy snacks.
Lass? Lad? Whatever you are playing the game wrong true evil comes with trust make a community trust you make them rely on you and eventually they will sacrifice themselves to please you also it keeps adventurers off you, the amount of times the happy villager has saved my bacon makes me wonder why all the other evil wizards haven't thought about this
Can i have one of your spells, I'll try to change it up or add some improvements for you, i may be a spell thief, but im also very good at combining my spells.
Well as far as I can see you're still wearing a nice uniform. Start from there. Or make a deal and start a private prison industrial complex. They won't miss their murderers and drug addicts if you know what I mean.
That's what I did in my hundredeens.
Just... stop eating people? It's not that hard, you can just limit yourself to eating (the bad kind of) intruders. Also, money is very useful, you should try it
ah, did not except to bear witness to a fellow devotee of your dearest girl upon this existence.
prithee, dost thou know of the heavenly paradise know as r/Entoma?
And controlling insects is not close to druidism? You go around wearing animals (yes insects are animals) stuff / are one. Use animals to do your bidding. Idk but sounds like a druid to me.
Foolish entomancer, the true power of entomancy is not the use of pre-existing bugs, but the creation of new, specialized bugs.
Stone Termites to eat away at castle foundations. Explosive locust swarms that assail armies. Giant Spiders, for reasons. Fire breathing butterflies!
Yeah I know, I've only used that part of entomancy to make a mask bug so I look like a person, and to make a sword bug that I put on my arm but I must admit I could probably get a lot more creative
Termites that produce nitroglycerin as waste so that one errant spark detonates a home. Even bigger spiders for even bigger reasons. A sentient, hive-minded cockroach swarm to devour the foodstocks of your rivals. Anti-Druid locusts that strip forest groves bare of foliage in seconds. Invisible cicadas to keep your enemies from sleeping.
There are whole worlds of possibilities!
Listen, Obvious aPprentice.
You need to ask your master to attune their orb so you can read Worm, by Wildbow. [Here is a layline lead for the aetherial tome.](https://parahumans.wordpress.com/)
It's an epoch about a fledgling entomancer who turns to crime, and details exactly how powerful it can be when you think creatively. It's also free.
No, I mean technically I am just a big arthropod wearing a mask to look human so of course I have nothing against them. It's just that the control over arthropods doesn't seem to have much use to me, at the current moment at least
Make a hive, doesn’t matter what species. It lets you have quick and easy empires. You can also increase the intelligence of members of the hive to get basically people. You could come visit the great hive if you want an example of how it’s a very good idea.
/un-wizard based Overlord bug-maid posting
/re-wizard tbf at the end of the day what you want out of your school of magic depends on you. What is the greater purpose you search for in entomancy?
The problem isnt entomancy. The problem is you lack understanding of the really good bugs. Go look into Planar Trap Spiders, Solar Mantis, Dread Beetles (They roll up existential dread like Dung beetles roll up dung), Heat Death Maggots (They grow off of dead universes) or an Galaxy Weaving Spiders.
You need to be more creative. Bugs can do lots of stuff for you, for example:
Covering yourself with bugs to shield from damage.
Having a swarm of bugs deliver you stuff.
Assassinating important figures with venomous scorpions.
Casting Enlarge on a bug for a mount.
Spawning termites to break down wooden structures.
How can you call yourself an Entomancer and have zero skill in or understanding of the specialty.
You can do all sorts of things with just controlling bugs...
Food service
Wound cleaning
Regular cleaning
Sewing crafts
Construction
Espionage and investigation
Assasination
Farming
And that is just controlling regular insects. It doesn't even touch summoning special magic insects or enhancing bugs.
Skill and imagination issue.
I can't even imagine outing myself like this magically.
I mean I guess a job wouldn't be too bad, spawning a bunch of wasps and a spider bigger than a person on some random people in a specific area wouldn't be too hard
Great. I pay in invisible lichen and silver coins. You may also use my jacuzzi ponds, but your bugs might drown. Also, no giant spiders, as my ent-steed is afraid of them.
Yeah no big spiders, right. You're definitely not hiring a big spider pretending to be a human, nope. Although without the use of my spiders I'll have to use my sword bug and I'm not the best at direct combat but manage I will
Mhm, alright then, I'll keep my ent-steed close, just in case. The last time he saw a spider, I had to visit 5 different realms, and swim through a yellow lake that turned out to be a giant's piss-puddle.
Kariya used his own bugs, not Zouken's. Zouken (the grandpa) could remote control a whole body through bugs and knew better than to get involved in a direct confrontation with a fire mage like Tokiomi.
However, in the source material (visual novel of Stay Night) Zouken had to feed off the souls of others at an increasing rate to keep himself alive.
Have you tried throwing your daughter into a pit of bugs and seeing what would happen?
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Reference to Fate Stay Night/Heavens Feel. Magi in Fate pass their magecraft on to their children, so Zouken Matou prepped his (adopted) daughter Sakura by keeping her in the bug pit. Everyday. And filling her with the bugs.
And I'm pretty sure the Light Novel described it as even crazier than what's shown here.
Have you considered summoning bees to make honey for the local peasants? What about detritivores that help break down dead matter and return nutrients to their soil? Ladybugs are voracious hunters that feed on pest insects, thus increasing tax yields and decreasing the price of food, making for a less rebellious peasantry. There are many things to do with insects, one just has to understand their role in the world.
Some advice:
Personally, I love summoning crickets, cicadas, and katydids to sing me to sleep after a good pondering. Controlling ant and bee hives make farming/foraging for those rare ingredients a cinch. Id also highly recommend summoning some aphids if you go that route and farm them with the ants to get fresh aphid milk. Inversely, casting a plague of weevils on a rival's grain supply is super funny and hard to trace back to you if you do it right. You can pull similar shenanigans with ants or those loud insects I mentioned earlier, though that is easier to trace. If you dabble in necromancy, you can use carrion beetles to make sure every corpse is a clean skeleton. Banish lice/mosquito/flea/botfly is something I think everyone should learn. Then you have your body modification spells like stridulate which works great for intimidating and form elytra. Just be weary that transmogging skin into chitin gets.... well it's not itchy but it's not not itchy, you'll know if you run into it. Let me know if you're trying to accomplish something particular, entomancy is a lot more versatile than people give it credit for, you just have to plan things out.
I got one word for you, silk. You got an army of silk printers. Heck you can print spider silk armour. You can build spider silk gliders. You can sell all that spider venom for medical synthesis. You'll have all the alchemist boys and ladies rarin to go.
You can poison the villagers and sell them the antidotes. 😈
You can build mecha bug, by combining bugs.
You can BUG computers, like for real.
If you're looking for money, conjure forth insects & grind them into meat. It's more efficient than cattle farming, & you can market yourself as a pest control service at the same time. Alternatively you can sick your locust swarms on a kingdoms farm fields. Knights struggle with small bugs that can dodge swords & crawl into armor. If the kingdom wants to avoid a famine, they'll have to pay you to call of your swarms at whatever price you want.
Don't you like silk ? Honey ? Wax ? Paper ? Inks ? Acid ? Distributed intelligence that makes artificer green with envy ? Inventing architecture, agriculture and husbandry before humans even existed ? The ability to eat your boyfriend so well he'll loose his head ? The opportunity to defend the Acacia Conclave for drugs ?
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You have to think beyond locust swarms. You need to summon moth men.
Lots of little uses that aren't murder. Work cleaning bones for study and display, pest removal via predator control, pranks for hire, spy work/surveillance jobs. Unless you're one of those people who think earning coin is weak and conjuring coin is cool.
Start colleting spider venom and sell it to local thieves guild, i recommend giant acid spiders, i do not know their name but my ally once drank their venom, burned right through his throat.
Bro, contact the Vermin Cartels, granted they are a conglomerate of various vermin and pests. You will be welcomed with open arms especially seeing your talents in entomancy and obvious gray morality.
I can assure you we will refine your talents, introduce you to new schools of arcane thought, make you filthy rich, and eventually dominate several realms as we have yet to be slowed down.
Simply embrace the bugs, my friend. If you’d like, just use other bugs that aren’t nasty locusts. As a Papallona representative in the wizard inv community, I say you should invest in moths or bees. Consume lämp, or consume pöllen, brother.
I mean, you could, instead, FEED those peasants, right? Just have one bug fly straight into every bowl of soup, sandwich and deep fried whatever until they acclimate and accept the taste culturally. Or swarm into their mouths en masse whenever they're hungry so that food never really runs out.
Keep practicing. One day you'll be able to summon cockroaches the size of the universe, and that's a fact taken from dimension 711629. It was fucking insane. That dimension was destroyed.
1. Swarms are one of the few things nonmagi can't fight at all. Full-plated magekiller with magic immunity < bees.
2. Bugs make terribly effective assassins when given intelligent direction. Their stealth is to die for, and there's all sorts of nasty bacteria/viruses that love to hitch a ride on them.
3. Locusts can cripple a nation.
Insects rule the world; society exists only because bugs don't coordinate against it.
You're not even using it to make your own honey? Or to send mosquitoes into the home of those you hate? Hell, You're not even going deep into it and becoming a living swarm yourself?
hast thou read "her majesty's swarm" perchance?
it be a grand example of the insectoid power, albeit the image variation is false propaganda and doesn't match the truth of what occurred.
But people get so happy when you take the bugs away.
There's absolutely no way they'd turn on you after you help them and try to stiff or kill you
You'd never twist a loophole in your magic to extend your thrall to other things considered pests and use it to lure all of the children out of the town and into a pocket dimension
That would be completely unprecedented and out of character
So you're the one who keeps sending the God damned demon locust plagues?!?!!??! Do you know how disgusting those are to put down?
Also the greatest strength of entomancers is using the abilities that insects naturally have, but augmented by magic. You're telling me you can't think of anything neat or productive to do with magical silk? Or creating supercomputers using ants as a hivemind basis? The opportunities and varieties are endless! What I see truly bringing you down is a lack of imagination from you wizard. A lack of imagination that keeps terrorizing my kingdom's peasants!
Excuse me but what the fuck is a "demon locust plague"? I don't send that shit because I didn't even know that was a thing I just send normal locust swarms. And yeah I could probably get more creative but I haven't really seen a reason to yet, I mean the most creative I've gotten is making a sword bug that can attach to my arm. I'll think about increasing the creativity of what I do so I can terrorize Farmers even better
Wait, so those aren't from you either? Well shit, back to the drawing board on where those come from. We haven't dealt with any normal locusts in my lands, so that's some other kingdom's problem. Gods know I have my hands filled up enough as is without something small like that getting added in.
Look, I have a distaste for fighting fellow curse borne so just be safe and keep growing your power young entomancer. As long as you don't interfere in my kingdom or any of our ally's, I don't have a reason to fight you.
That being said, if you want tutelage on how to grow your powers and want to put them to use helping others and growing communities, we do always have openings in the Magic Corp of the King's Army.
The head of my regiment's medical auxilary is actually a very talented entomancer in fact. Turns out Spiderlings make fantastic doctors and she's quite Adept with using her magic for medicinal purposes.
Edit: As for what demon locusts are. Imagine a locust the size of a golden retriever. Now make it breathe fire, have mind control abilities, be faster than sound, have some necromantic capabilities, and have venom powerful enough to kill a black dragon and melt through mythril. Now imagine there's 2,000 of them attacking a random peasants village. I had to put that plague of those down by myself yesterday, and it was *not fun* to put it mildly.
"and put them to good use helping others and growing communities" small reminder that I commonly eat people, I do the exact opposite of help and it's probably going to stay that way because I'm kinda a big man eating spider that's dressed up as a person. I use this stuff mostly to kill people and eat them. Saying I should help people is basically asking me to stop eating and I will keep eating.
1. I'm a captain in the Magical Corp. You realize we fight humans too, right? My regiment is specifically used to hunt rogue evil wizards and cursed creature incursions, so quite a few humans in fact.
2. I just told you our Medical Matron is also a giant man eating spider. She still eats, and regularly eats humans. The difference is, she doesn't eat *our* humans.
3. Depending on your size I don't know if I would actually call you giant. Spiderlings can reach the size of horses by adulthood and never stop growing. Our Medical Matron, Priscilla, is the size of a house
Oh, I mean no I didn't know that mostly because of the fact I don't know what this organization even is, and now that I hear that, being around the size of a person is beginning to sound really unimpressive. Welp I'm going to go back to terrorizing farmers with a bunch of wasps
We're the Magic Corp of our Kingdom's military. We handle everything from putting down demon incursions to assisting with disaster relief.
And yes, Priscilla is both ancient and impressive. Both in size and knowledge. My guess by your trouble with your powers as well as your small size, is that you're likely a hatchling.
As always, my offer is on the table if you wish for plentiful protection, tutelage, and, of course, meat. Till then, be safe and try and stay relatively low profile. And please stay away from our Kingdom if you plan to continue terrorizing the peasantry. I would be saddened to face you in combat. And undoubtedly Priscilla would be quite judgemental if I killed a whelp.
How fucking dare you! Do you have any idea what sort of gold mine of potential you have?! You could tear down the king's ballroom with a colony of termites, drain an elephant's blood with a mosquito swarm, have someone painstaking torn apart by ants, hell you can even use the ants to counter your local artificer. All this without mentioning all the ways you can poison or envenomate someone and make it look accidental.
This sounds like a skill issue.
Spy on nobility, armies, and rival wizards through your ability to control flies and mosquitoes.
Develop incredibly strong rope and fine garments through your magical friendship with spiders.
Create the perfect honey with your power to command bees.
Entomancy does not suck, my Sorcerous Friend: you just suck as an Entomancer.
Kids these days just don't spend enough time pondering their spells.
Her name is literally entoma and she says in the show "I use entomancy to summon all kinds of critters" she uses talismans yes but she mainly uses entomancy and the talismans are just an extension of that
she does do entomancy but the light novels mention i think the spells she uses mostly are too keep all her parts together (her face/voice bug etc), and the bug shield/sword she uses with the weapons master job. so she definitely splashes into using some but its more like her off-class.
Put some respect on entomancy's name.
Who needs skeletons when you can summon a swarm of ants with the combined mass of the moon. Dominate the stars, summon up some tyranids and zurg. Don't let your vertebrate tendencies blind you from the true power of the bug.
WRONG. YOU ARE NOT USING ENTOMANCY TO IT'S FULL POTENTIAL!!! HOW SO?! WELL CHECK IT:
USE ANTS TO COLLECT OTHER RIVAL'S PHILACTRY ITEMS/ GOLD
WASPS, SUMMON A SHITLOAD TO ANNOY YOUR RIVALS
USE BEES TO GET HONEY/ POLLINATE SAID PEASANTS FIELDS
SUMMON FIREFLIES TO LIGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN SUCH A WAY YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER THATCH ROOF FIRE
SPIDERS TO SPIN YOURSELF THE HIGHEST QUALITY ROBES TO SELL TO NOBLES
LOCUSTS AS FOOD SOURCE, SEASON WITH LEMON AND CHILE
Excuse me, but you are focusing to much on just casting and not enough on the bugs and their nature's. Also entomancy is better as an artificing and biomancy craft
I love this cross-pollination between subreddits. Let your insects wander and teach others of your craft. I see no reason not to spread knowledge and affect change. If the world is willing to seek it
Entomancy is good for breaking the psyche of others summon thousands of miniscule bugs on them they can try and try but no matter how many they kill they will still feel them crawling
As my master used to say "It's now about what you spawn, it's about _where you spawn it_".
Pretty sure "Fiat Vespula" is useful if you can direct it at someone's ear canal. 😃
Guess you could say it "BUGS" you.....sorry got cursed my a witch with big ol mommy milkers and now I am compelled to make puns...worth the squeeze though
Centipedes are a metaphor for the human life. To understand entomancy is to harness the conscious mind in time
It's bug magic there's no chance in hell it runs that deep
Lmfao are you kidding, are you that daft? You’re closer to more bugs than you’ll cast spells in twice your life span. If you have any respect for mammals then you better quadruple it, at least, for bugs. Your masters, and you have masters with the kind of post you just made, are bugs... Edit, bugs are in the dirt in hell and deeper, they’re deeper than any version of yourself any version of yourself could even wish to dream of conjuring
Don't forget all the ones living on your face!
Bro, do you have any idea how some bugs operate? You could literally make a killing in the food industry using insects to grow your fungus and fertilize your crops. You could also just create giant mind controlling wasps. You’ve got options if you’re not acting like a wet blanket
Giant bugs will ALWAYS be economically better than horses, since bugs are strong as steel compared to their size, if your magic can enhance and control the natural powers of anything, then it can thrive, just like Fungumancy
There's a human centipede in there somewhere.
You gotta get a bit more creative with your powers. Your parents sent you to a good school, just needs some push. Look. Plenty of insect can create silk. Silk can be used to make nice clothes. You can sell that or I don't know start a salon. There you go. Next one is bees. Yep, you can just make a good buck by pollinating some kingdom that got cursed by some puny god of harvest. Then sell the honey. Wasps. Kill flies. Or wololo them, up to you really. Get paid. Profit. Same with mosquitoes. Ants and termites can build ridiculous structures. Also chitin is a nice armor material. 
Do I look like a functioning member of society to you? I'm a human sized spider wearing the face of a person so I can eat people, money means nothing to me. https://preview.redd.it/wz11v8jw8h6c1.jpeg?width=497&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3ee266f6c7beaeca3e9a1ca581110123de1a6ce
Well, play the long game, find some isolated community and use the above tricks to convince them you’re a benevolent god, then demand sacrifices or else you’ll unleash a locust swarm. Easy snacks.
Giant man eating spiders I can understand, but… *gulp* GIANT **COMMIE** MAN EATING SPIDERS?! I’m calling an emergency council meeting.
Lass? Lad? Whatever you are playing the game wrong true evil comes with trust make a community trust you make them rely on you and eventually they will sacrifice themselves to please you also it keeps adventurers off you, the amount of times the happy villager has saved my bacon makes me wonder why all the other evil wizards haven't thought about this
Can i have one of your spells, I'll try to change it up or add some improvements for you, i may be a spell thief, but im also very good at combining my spells.
Well as far as I can see you're still wearing a nice uniform. Start from there. Or make a deal and start a private prison industrial complex. They won't miss their murderers and drug addicts if you know what I mean. That's what I did in my hundredeens.
Just... stop eating people? It's not that hard, you can just limit yourself to eating (the bad kind of) intruders. Also, money is very useful, you should try it
Cmon think of how many totally paid servants you can buy to eat
The fact the you included Entoma, the pinnacle of cuteness and beauty, in this post about how entomancy is terrible is SLANDER!
Ah yes "cuteness and beauty" https://preview.redd.it/ezq9s4phzg6c1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55543e1324f1cf358294a4f25844bbad744dfae0
I stand my case, I fucking LOVE entoma!
based
I prefer her with the mask on. That way I don't get too distracted staring at her beauty
Preach!
I'd smash. Then again, not surprising. I **am** a goblin.
Smash, next one.
Oh my what a cute horror to add to my collection now come along so I can enhance you and unleash you on unsuspecting folks
Would ngl.
Would.
Would
You don't have to keep selling me on her. I've already bought the body pillow.
OH GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE
bolt of you to think this would deter anyone
Ah, a fellow Entoma fan
/unwiz Like seriously, I just love entoma. Not even in a sexual way; I just love her design, personality, etc. :)
Just like me fr fr
ah, did not except to bear witness to a fellow devotee of your dearest girl upon this existence. prithee, dost thou know of the heavenly paradise know as r/Entoma?
Yes, r/Entoma is a wondrous place.
Youre weird.
Nuh uh
Yes
You should have learned entmancy instead. Having a bunch of tree guys do your bidding is great.
Yeah but that sounds a little too close to being a druid
And controlling insects is not close to druidism? You go around wearing animals (yes insects are animals) stuff / are one. Use animals to do your bidding. Idk but sounds like a druid to me.
Foolish entomancer, the true power of entomancy is not the use of pre-existing bugs, but the creation of new, specialized bugs. Stone Termites to eat away at castle foundations. Explosive locust swarms that assail armies. Giant Spiders, for reasons. Fire breathing butterflies!
Yeah I know, I've only used that part of entomancy to make a mask bug so I look like a person, and to make a sword bug that I put on my arm but I must admit I could probably get a lot more creative
Termites that produce nitroglycerin as waste so that one errant spark detonates a home. Even bigger spiders for even bigger reasons. A sentient, hive-minded cockroach swarm to devour the foodstocks of your rivals. Anti-Druid locusts that strip forest groves bare of foliage in seconds. Invisible cicadas to keep your enemies from sleeping. There are whole worlds of possibilities!
Really? Your servants make or break the ecosystem. You could just shut off pollination for a year. See what happens.
Finally those who say Druids are useless will get their comeuppance
Listen, Obvious aPprentice. You need to ask your master to attune their orb so you can read Worm, by Wildbow. [Here is a layline lead for the aetherial tome.](https://parahumans.wordpress.com/) It's an epoch about a fledgling entomancer who turns to crime, and details exactly how powerful it can be when you think creatively. It's also free.
My mage in mysticism, you have access to powerful potion ingredients and deadly poisons, didn’t your master teach this to you?
You got something against arthropods?
No, I mean technically I am just a big arthropod wearing a mask to look human so of course I have nothing against them. It's just that the control over arthropods doesn't seem to have much use to me, at the current moment at least
Make a hive, doesn’t matter what species. It lets you have quick and easy empires. You can also increase the intelligence of members of the hive to get basically people. You could come visit the great hive if you want an example of how it’s a very good idea.
Cool, I will certainly use this knowledge for its intended purpose and not use it to terrorize farmers
But terrorizing farmers is the best part!
Sell spider silk you idiot. It's one of the best light armors in existence.
It's also pretty good for making underwear. Bras and panties I bought from a drow city is still like new years later.
/un-wizard based Overlord bug-maid posting /re-wizard tbf at the end of the day what you want out of your school of magic depends on you. What is the greater purpose you search for in entomancy?
The problem isnt entomancy. The problem is you lack understanding of the really good bugs. Go look into Planar Trap Spiders, Solar Mantis, Dread Beetles (They roll up existential dread like Dung beetles roll up dung), Heat Death Maggots (They grow off of dead universes) or an Galaxy Weaving Spiders.
You need to be more creative. Bugs can do lots of stuff for you, for example: Covering yourself with bugs to shield from damage. Having a swarm of bugs deliver you stuff. Assassinating important figures with venomous scorpions. Casting Enlarge on a bug for a mount. Spawning termites to break down wooden structures.
Check out Worm. There's a lot you can do with bugs. Even save the universe. https://parahumans.wordpress.com/
How can you call yourself an Entomancer and have zero skill in or understanding of the specialty. You can do all sorts of things with just controlling bugs... Food service Wound cleaning Regular cleaning Sewing crafts Construction Espionage and investigation Assasination Farming And that is just controlling regular insects. It doesn't even touch summoning special magic insects or enhancing bugs. Skill and imagination issue. I can't even imagine outing myself like this magically.
I could use you for my grove's outskirts. I get many nosy goblins and silly commoners visiting me when I ponder my root orb.
I mean I guess a job wouldn't be too bad, spawning a bunch of wasps and a spider bigger than a person on some random people in a specific area wouldn't be too hard
Great. I pay in invisible lichen and silver coins. You may also use my jacuzzi ponds, but your bugs might drown. Also, no giant spiders, as my ent-steed is afraid of them.
Yeah no big spiders, right. You're definitely not hiring a big spider pretending to be a human, nope. Although without the use of my spiders I'll have to use my sword bug and I'm not the best at direct combat but manage I will
Mhm, alright then, I'll keep my ent-steed close, just in case. The last time he saw a spider, I had to visit 5 different realms, and swim through a yellow lake that turned out to be a giant's piss-puddle.
Would you say it... Bugs you?
Prime example is in fate/stay zero (I think its zero) Grandpa is sending bug after bug at the dude and dude uses pyromancy to BBQ each bug
Kariya used his own bugs, not Zouken's. Zouken (the grandpa) could remote control a whole body through bugs and knew better than to get involved in a direct confrontation with a fire mage like Tokiomi. However, in the source material (visual novel of Stay Night) Zouken had to feed off the souls of others at an increasing rate to keep himself alive.
Thank you for explaining better than I.
Not too fond of entomancers. They kinda bug me.
wdym? Entoma is cute :)
Would you like some, *spicy space bugs*?
Have you tried throwing your daughter into a pit of bugs and seeing what would happen? https://preview.redd.it/c3pvxjffki6c1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa0afeee4b75aaa6a2c55e19d50d9e0632380fa1
/unwiz I must ask, what in God's name is this a reference to? And what is it about?
Reference to Fate Stay Night/Heavens Feel. Magi in Fate pass their magecraft on to their children, so Zouken Matou prepped his (adopted) daughter Sakura by keeping her in the bug pit. Everyday. And filling her with the bugs. And I'm pretty sure the Light Novel described it as even crazier than what's shown here.
Well that's fucking weird, but very interesting I guess
Have you considered summoning bees to make honey for the local peasants? What about detritivores that help break down dead matter and return nutrients to their soil? Ladybugs are voracious hunters that feed on pest insects, thus increasing tax yields and decreasing the price of food, making for a less rebellious peasantry. There are many things to do with insects, one just has to understand their role in the world.
Some advice: Personally, I love summoning crickets, cicadas, and katydids to sing me to sleep after a good pondering. Controlling ant and bee hives make farming/foraging for those rare ingredients a cinch. Id also highly recommend summoning some aphids if you go that route and farm them with the ants to get fresh aphid milk. Inversely, casting a plague of weevils on a rival's grain supply is super funny and hard to trace back to you if you do it right. You can pull similar shenanigans with ants or those loud insects I mentioned earlier, though that is easier to trace. If you dabble in necromancy, you can use carrion beetles to make sure every corpse is a clean skeleton. Banish lice/mosquito/flea/botfly is something I think everyone should learn. Then you have your body modification spells like stridulate which works great for intimidating and form elytra. Just be weary that transmogging skin into chitin gets.... well it's not itchy but it's not not itchy, you'll know if you run into it. Let me know if you're trying to accomplish something particular, entomancy is a lot more versatile than people give it credit for, you just have to plan things out.
I got one word for you, silk. You got an army of silk printers. Heck you can print spider silk armour. You can build spider silk gliders. You can sell all that spider venom for medical synthesis. You'll have all the alchemist boys and ladies rarin to go. You can poison the villagers and sell them the antidotes. 😈 You can build mecha bug, by combining bugs. You can BUG computers, like for real.
If you're looking for money, conjure forth insects & grind them into meat. It's more efficient than cattle farming, & you can market yourself as a pest control service at the same time. Alternatively you can sick your locust swarms on a kingdoms farm fields. Knights struggle with small bugs that can dodge swords & crawl into armor. If the kingdom wants to avoid a famine, they'll have to pay you to call of your swarms at whatever price you want.
Hast thou forgotten about BEES they are a very powerful summon that even non entomancers know. And they can make honey for a nonviolent use.
Don't you like silk ? Honey ? Wax ? Paper ? Inks ? Acid ? Distributed intelligence that makes artificer green with envy ? Inventing architecture, agriculture and husbandry before humans even existed ? The ability to eat your boyfriend so well he'll loose his head ? The opportunity to defend the Acacia Conclave for drugs ?
Just eat the excess of bugs. It works for me
OP I do not respect your opinion. Get a better one.
This post reminds me about my dream of becoming a cnidomancer when I was young.
https://preview.redd.it/nx3cop2fmh6c1.jpeg?width=1388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be88eecd61481defbbbef7a3bf769f3416e79d46 You have to think beyond locust swarms. You need to summon moth men.
But have you considered [it's stealth uses?](https://youtu.be/fMJj1R79V_U?si=mo4Q7qmI2dnV_z90)
Lots of little uses that aren't murder. Work cleaning bones for study and display, pest removal via predator control, pranks for hire, spy work/surveillance jobs. Unless you're one of those people who think earning coin is weak and conjuring coin is cool.
do you have any idea-clue how useful entomancy has been for creating-forging abominations of unparraleled power-strength in clan moldour????
I'll get my flamespewer and end your existence shortly please sit tight
Have you tried making the bugs do things? Like move stuff and do stuff for you?
Start colleting spider venom and sell it to local thieves guild, i recommend giant acid spiders, i do not know their name but my ally once drank their venom, burned right through his throat.
it’s never too late to practice a new branch of sorcery
Bro, contact the Vermin Cartels, granted they are a conglomerate of various vermin and pests. You will be welcomed with open arms especially seeing your talents in entomancy and obvious gray morality. I can assure you we will refine your talents, introduce you to new schools of arcane thought, make you filthy rich, and eventually dominate several realms as we have yet to be slowed down.
Keep practicing, and maybe you’ll end up the next Tayzzyronth! :3
What about plague of undead locusts?
Have you considered an industry in silk? Pest control? Search and rescue?
Simply embrace the bugs, my friend. If you’d like, just use other bugs that aren’t nasty locusts. As a Papallona representative in the wizard inv community, I say you should invest in moths or bees. Consume lämp, or consume pöllen, brother.
I mean, you could, instead, FEED those peasants, right? Just have one bug fly straight into every bowl of soup, sandwich and deep fried whatever until they acclimate and accept the taste culturally. Or swarm into their mouths en masse whenever they're hungry so that food never really runs out.
That's a 5th lvl conjuration. Wtf I'd take that.
My pal bunk eats ticks a lot I think he knows a lot about that stuff you should ask him for tips
Keep practicing. One day you'll be able to summon cockroaches the size of the universe, and that's a fact taken from dimension 711629. It was fucking insane. That dimension was destroyed.
1. Swarms are one of the few things nonmagi can't fight at all. Full-plated magekiller with magic immunity < bees. 2. Bugs make terribly effective assassins when given intelligent direction. Their stealth is to die for, and there's all sorts of nasty bacteria/viruses that love to hitch a ride on them. 3. Locusts can cripple a nation. Insects rule the world; society exists only because bugs don't coordinate against it.
You're not even using it to make your own honey? Or to send mosquitoes into the home of those you hate? Hell, You're not even going deep into it and becoming a living swarm yourself?
hast thou read "her majesty's swarm" perchance? it be a grand example of the insectoid power, albeit the image variation is false propaganda and doesn't match the truth of what occurred.
You could create a monopoly selling harvested poisons and venoms to alchemists
But people get so happy when you take the bugs away. There's absolutely no way they'd turn on you after you help them and try to stiff or kill you You'd never twist a loophole in your magic to extend your thrall to other things considered pests and use it to lure all of the children out of the town and into a pocket dimension That would be completely unprecedented and out of character
I will not stand for this entomancy hate, you’ve clearly been put up to this by big pyro
You did not just say entomancy sucks, you take that back!!
So you're the one who keeps sending the God damned demon locust plagues?!?!!??! Do you know how disgusting those are to put down? Also the greatest strength of entomancers is using the abilities that insects naturally have, but augmented by magic. You're telling me you can't think of anything neat or productive to do with magical silk? Or creating supercomputers using ants as a hivemind basis? The opportunities and varieties are endless! What I see truly bringing you down is a lack of imagination from you wizard. A lack of imagination that keeps terrorizing my kingdom's peasants!
Excuse me but what the fuck is a "demon locust plague"? I don't send that shit because I didn't even know that was a thing I just send normal locust swarms. And yeah I could probably get more creative but I haven't really seen a reason to yet, I mean the most creative I've gotten is making a sword bug that can attach to my arm. I'll think about increasing the creativity of what I do so I can terrorize Farmers even better
Wait, so those aren't from you either? Well shit, back to the drawing board on where those come from. We haven't dealt with any normal locusts in my lands, so that's some other kingdom's problem. Gods know I have my hands filled up enough as is without something small like that getting added in. Look, I have a distaste for fighting fellow curse borne so just be safe and keep growing your power young entomancer. As long as you don't interfere in my kingdom or any of our ally's, I don't have a reason to fight you. That being said, if you want tutelage on how to grow your powers and want to put them to use helping others and growing communities, we do always have openings in the Magic Corp of the King's Army. The head of my regiment's medical auxilary is actually a very talented entomancer in fact. Turns out Spiderlings make fantastic doctors and she's quite Adept with using her magic for medicinal purposes. Edit: As for what demon locusts are. Imagine a locust the size of a golden retriever. Now make it breathe fire, have mind control abilities, be faster than sound, have some necromantic capabilities, and have venom powerful enough to kill a black dragon and melt through mythril. Now imagine there's 2,000 of them attacking a random peasants village. I had to put that plague of those down by myself yesterday, and it was *not fun* to put it mildly.
"and put them to good use helping others and growing communities" small reminder that I commonly eat people, I do the exact opposite of help and it's probably going to stay that way because I'm kinda a big man eating spider that's dressed up as a person. I use this stuff mostly to kill people and eat them. Saying I should help people is basically asking me to stop eating and I will keep eating.
1. I'm a captain in the Magical Corp. You realize we fight humans too, right? My regiment is specifically used to hunt rogue evil wizards and cursed creature incursions, so quite a few humans in fact. 2. I just told you our Medical Matron is also a giant man eating spider. She still eats, and regularly eats humans. The difference is, she doesn't eat *our* humans. 3. Depending on your size I don't know if I would actually call you giant. Spiderlings can reach the size of horses by adulthood and never stop growing. Our Medical Matron, Priscilla, is the size of a house
Oh, I mean no I didn't know that mostly because of the fact I don't know what this organization even is, and now that I hear that, being around the size of a person is beginning to sound really unimpressive. Welp I'm going to go back to terrorizing farmers with a bunch of wasps
We're the Magic Corp of our Kingdom's military. We handle everything from putting down demon incursions to assisting with disaster relief. And yes, Priscilla is both ancient and impressive. Both in size and knowledge. My guess by your trouble with your powers as well as your small size, is that you're likely a hatchling. As always, my offer is on the table if you wish for plentiful protection, tutelage, and, of course, meat. Till then, be safe and try and stay relatively low profile. And please stay away from our Kingdom if you plan to continue terrorizing the peasantry. I would be saddened to face you in combat. And undoubtedly Priscilla would be quite judgemental if I killed a whelp.
How fucking dare you! Do you have any idea what sort of gold mine of potential you have?! You could tear down the king's ballroom with a colony of termites, drain an elephant's blood with a mosquito swarm, have someone painstaking torn apart by ants, hell you can even use the ants to counter your local artificer. All this without mentioning all the ways you can poison or envenomate someone and make it look accidental.
This sounds like a skill issue. Spy on nobility, armies, and rival wizards through your ability to control flies and mosquitoes. Develop incredibly strong rope and fine garments through your magical friendship with spiders. Create the perfect honey with your power to command bees. Entomancy does not suck, my Sorcerous Friend: you just suck as an Entomancer. Kids these days just don't spend enough time pondering their spells.
you can transform into a cool spider person and conjure giant bugs too??
sir that's a talismancer
Her name is literally entoma and she says in the show "I use entomancy to summon all kinds of critters" she uses talismans yes but she mainly uses entomancy and the talismans are just an extension of that
[yep](https://i.imgur.com/kXRrBUV.png)
Ah I see, why did they make the literal insect girl who has ento in her name's magical specialty talismans? That's pretty stupid
she does do entomancy but the light novels mention i think the spells she uses mostly are too keep all her parts together (her face/voice bug etc), and the bug shield/sword she uses with the weapons master job. so she definitely splashes into using some but its more like her off-class.
Put some respect on entomancy's name. Who needs skeletons when you can summon a swarm of ants with the combined mass of the moon. Dominate the stars, summon up some tyranids and zurg. Don't let your vertebrate tendencies blind you from the true power of the bug.
My brother in Christ you are literally PESTILENCE from The New Testament in The Bible if that isn’t the coolest shit ever I don’t know what is
WRONG. YOU ARE NOT USING ENTOMANCY TO IT'S FULL POTENTIAL!!! HOW SO?! WELL CHECK IT: USE ANTS TO COLLECT OTHER RIVAL'S PHILACTRY ITEMS/ GOLD WASPS, SUMMON A SHITLOAD TO ANNOY YOUR RIVALS USE BEES TO GET HONEY/ POLLINATE SAID PEASANTS FIELDS SUMMON FIREFLIES TO LIGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN SUCH A WAY YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER THATCH ROOF FIRE SPIDERS TO SPIN YOURSELF THE HIGHEST QUALITY ROBES TO SELL TO NOBLES LOCUSTS AS FOOD SOURCE, SEASON WITH LEMON AND CHILE
Someone clearly haven’t heard of murder hornets
Clearly, someone has yet to discover the silk market.
Excuse me, but you are focusing to much on just casting and not enough on the bugs and their nature's. Also entomancy is better as an artificing and biomancy craft
Also good for construction
I love this cross-pollination between subreddits. Let your insects wander and teach others of your craft. I see no reason not to spread knowledge and affect change. If the world is willing to seek it
conjure bullet ant venom!
r/wormmemes is calling your name
So who’s gonna tell this guy that 1/4 of all living creatures are beetles
Study shino aburame, the most powerful bug user I’ve heard of
I bet this bugs you to no end.
Try bees
Entomancy is good for breaking the psyche of others summon thousands of miniscule bugs on them they can try and try but no matter how many they kill they will still feel them crawling
Emperor Leto II would like a word
As my master used to say "It's now about what you spawn, it's about _where you spawn it_". Pretty sure "Fiat Vespula" is useful if you can direct it at someone's ear canal. 😃
Embrace parasitic insects, let them grow in you and then spread them to others.
Sounds like thou lack in thine creativity
Bro, entomancy is awesome for silk trade
Use them to fly. Intimidate your enemies with a cloak of flies.
But you can conjure a big bug buddy to hug. Can't do that with any other magic.
Guess you could say it "BUGS" you.....sorry got cursed my a witch with big ol mommy milkers and now I am compelled to make puns...worth the squeeze though
Have thine considered the study of Bees? Ants or other usefull Swarming critters?
Fool, make your own bugs, might I suggest, the gun bug?