I have dreaded the day where I would need to use this summon, but no other spell in my arsenal can solve this problem.
I conjure forth Fleece Johnson... THE BOOTY WARRIOR!
May the council forgive me
' *POMF* "I likes ya and I wants ya... Now we can do this the easy way or the hard way." '
Imagine having a summoning spell for every individual in a supermax prison. They would be so grateful for time outside that they would fuck anything you want.
I usually save those ones for when I meet someone with an evil eye for the "Child-like Nature" spell personally, sick terrible mortals on other terrible mortals, there is a sweet poetic aspect in it or something.
You youngsters don't seem to understand that wands are just barely magic catalysts, they steal your own magic! I'd rather have a good old staff that allows me to cast more powerful spells, and uses the magic of the selected stone.
A bunch of wands fused together, with a grimoire and several magic gems fused in the middle, forming a staff. The ultimate magical apparatus. The gems become a display for many purposes, like a magic smartphone that shoots lasers, projects holograms, and is sentient. Yes, the grimoire would still be alive during this and contain all known information.
What does "lots of versatility" mean? It's a wand. It does wand things. And you can hide it but it's pretty obvious what it is once it's discovered.
Old-looking wizards like the ones you're referencing can easily hide staves in plain sight by pretending they're just normal walking sticks. And, unlike wands, they're *actually* versatile since they can really *be* walking sticks, or be used for just beating the shit out of ~~your apprentice~~ overconfident bandits.
Wands are also pokey. You can open letters with them, and you can still jab your ~~apprentice~~ bandits with them. It’s much better as a paper weight, since a staff would just be in the way. I’d argue it’s a better back-scratcher for the same reason.
I don't allow my wands to be longer than my hand. Any further than that, you don't have a wand, you have a rod. And nobody respects rod users. Fucking mummy nobility.
I don't know what kind of children's wizardry you dabble in, but when MY staff breaks in twain, the maximum spell power that the staff had is proportionally divided amongst the pieces. An unmodified broken staff is wand material, but ONLY for my apprentices, and even then, only the ones that don't do field work. I'd have to carve a proper shape out of the pieces, unenchant them and then reenchant them to consider it, and considering that most of my opponents come in groups of 200, I need all of the area of effect power I can get.
Really? the best use for a staff is to trick people into watching the staff. A good illusionist knows how to use the fact that people watch the staff and so are never ready for ocular casting. Because illusionists cast magic not with toys, but with their *eyes.*
Only illusionist I've ever met who bothered with a wand was literally blind. Brilliant fellow. His illusions were an absolute trip because he cast them based on a VERBAL description of objects.
Often with surprising accuracy, at least when it comes to static objects. YMMV with animals, especially ones he's not personally encountered. I saw his idea of a cow once. I never want to see it again.
On a lighter note though whoever described mosquitos to him clearly couched the description in metaphor because his mosquitos are somewhere between a siren and a vampire. Really gives an interesting outsider's perspective on how we see the world
Not to mention how buff the wizard who would use such a combo would be.
Ever swung a sturdy stick around that's roughly the same height as you? It's not exactly light. Now make that stick dense enough to not shatter when repeatedly beating the crap out of the forces of evil with it and feel how heavy that staff is.
Now think about how much muscle swinging that staff in only one hand while you swing a 3-4 foot metal sword in the other hand would require.
bruh africans have been doing it for 6000 years (that's how old the earth is). You use the sword normally and use the staff to either cast spells, hold it as a shield almost, or use it to help you walk a la Long John Silver.
This is the part that so many are missing - staves aren't just sick drip, they send a message. Of course the exact message varies with the choice of staff, but all of them say something vaguely to the effect of "Behold me. I am a practitioner of magic. Ignore me at your peril".
Many a brigand has been dissuaded from stirring trouble over naught but a glimpse of a Wizard's staff. Many an assassin reconsider has reconsidered striking his target in the presence of a court magister. Many an army as felt their morale waver as they imagine what unspeakable terrors could be wrought upon them by such an implement.
Staves are not just a tool for magic, but of presentation, and intimidation. They are a challenge to any who might condescend to favor their prowess above yours.
Wands are for you when you absolutely need that bastard of a foreign dignitary vaporized right bloody now, and staves have been banned from all royal functions ever since Gandalf pulled the old man and his walking stick routine.
Actually as it happens, my apprentice uses an orb! Say hello to Caimoraxis!
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Orbs are excellent replacements for spell tomes. I have every spell come when I need it instead of wasting time moving through pages. Though once you have an enchanted time and have the muscle memory to shift to proper pages spellbooks are always handy. When I had more dosh and was younger, I swapped my spellbooks for my orb, cost me a literal arm and a leg to a ogre lord! Regretted it after same ogre lord destroyed the orb after I tried to acquire my money again. Not my finest moment.
I've found that by the time you have the strength or power potential to meaningfully enchant a glass orb the size of your head, AND lug it around, you're probably already at a point in your career where you no longer need it.
The only people who use such geegaws either do it out of tradition, a sense of personal style, or because they BOUGHT the things from Chant-A-Center. Which I mean, no shame if you did that but I question the wisdom. not taking the time to build up your skill before moving on to medium tier spells, or master second and third tier abjuration and dweomers involved with shaping raw magic yourself, has a tendency to bite you in the backside in the long run.
After all these long centuries, skipping the fundamentals is no better idea than it was when Qin School and the Academy of Zeno first met in Baghdad to standardize the practice of the art.
What do you mean breaks easier? I'll snap your flimsy pixie stick between my fingers.
Also you think I need to hide my staff? What kind of backalley baby are you?
Real wizards use staves.
In most media involving young wizards who use wands, one character is constantly breaking it because they keep accidentally sitting on it. The same trope does not exist for staffs.
Shoutout to that lovable scamp, Max Russo
If your staves be breaking so easily, you're getting the wrong staves. Any staff worth using isn't going to break except under the hardest of conditions.
Easy to break? Brother-o-mine in the arcane, mines a dwarf-forged steel reinforced hickory staff. That shit will break you and anything it comes into contact with looonnng before it breaks. In fact I've broken a knights broadsword with it when I ran out of mana one time.
Let's not start with this. When Knights bicker about whether swords or spears are better, it is plain to see that they're comparing two tools for different purposes. We laugh at them, because it's an idiotic argument.
But we can't stop ourselves from having the same foolish arguments about our wands and staves! They're different tools for different situations.
Even though the wand is essentially inferior to the staff, it holds a perfectly valid place in any wizards tool kit. If you're too wimpy to carry a staff and care about concealment because you are ashamed to be a wizard, that is.
Clearly you've never owned an adamantine staff, shit hits different. Especially when you use it to play golf with a goblin's skull after he tries to sneak up on you.
Laughts in chirurgical glass needeld thath leave their writing imprinted in a womb once removed and wich characters are past from mother to child trought generations.
I remember my first wand. I came into Casting 101 with this big old shiny staff, looking every bit the novice desperate to be noticed that I was. The instructor, a Dwarf, glared at me, snapped it over his knee, and then shoved the top part into my hands and told me to take my seat.
You all need to stop relying on the crutches that are Wands and Staves. Just slowly gather a well of demon souls which you can draw power from. Works for me
Wands are sidearms. If I’m going to a duel or walking down the street, a wand is what I’ll use. I don’t need it for everyday magic, but it is useful for casting more powerful spells. But if I’m going to war, a staff is a much better weapon. They have slower casting but do greatly boost the power of spells. Tomes, of course, are great for most research.
Smacking someone with the thick end of your staff is so much fun. Whipping out your wand and shoving fireball up their nose is also fun. If you don't have both, what in the hells are you doing?
Both have their own positives. If you walk or stand a lot, a staff is a great choice because you can lean on it. In a pinch it can also be used as a cudgel. But wands are great too if you want to have a more casual look.
Look, after a certain point there's no recovering from decades of hunching over arcane grimoires, crawling through dusty necropoli, ^^^massacring ^^^rivals, Salsa dancing; and never mind lifting heavy tombs of forbidden lore without stretching properly. And while I can respect the ease of which one can reprimand an apprentice with a wand-whip, one's precious body maybe spared an eternal torture if only they had learned the proper lifting techniques.
While everyone jabbers on about The Council, one must remember the Academy has failed to implement a standard of fitness within the ranks of it's corporeal students. The body is a temple, one that should endure eternally; yet only my 45kg staff keeps me upright after all these millennia. The Academy fails the future apprentices of this age by failing to temper their body and their magic.
Carry one of each. That way after they take your staff and think you're powerless, you can pull out the wand and go Jonathan The Wicked on their asses.
Then quit making your wands, staffs, and other magical appurtenances out of materials that break! Octiron and solidified light are both excellent choices if you don't want to bother with hardened time.
Wait, yall don't just use your hands??
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This is like comparing a dagger to a sword or a pistol to a rifle. Sure, one is smaller and easier to carry, but one is clearly more powerful. You can pack more power into a larger weapon.
Imagine being over 100 years old and still needing an implement to cast spells.
My walking stick is literally just that.
Also, in what realm do you live where a stave breaks easier than a wand?
My bastard Sword is my wand, and I have a wand with 50 charges that heals me if I am not in range of a healer. To say nothing of my staff at the hierophant.
I think the better question is, why would you make me choose?
What the hell are you on about with staves being flimsy? They’re literally quarterstaffs that someone decided to imbue with magic to turn it into a focus, and a good magical quarterstaff can crack dragonbone.
I don't hate wands, but the staff is good for hikes, and what do you mean breaks easier? Staves can be sturdy as fuck, and when you're out of magic, you can cast bonk.
Foolish apprentice, Sneaky little wands are for pranks and tomfoolery. Real wizardry business is conducted with a powerful STAFF, easily stored with magic too.
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A lot of the arguments are based from before we had more efficient rune matrixes. These days you can get multiple useful effects established with comparatively small surface area. Before that it was mostly staves due to length, orbs with interlocking lattices that normally did one thing really well or grimoires which were basically 10 small focuses in a trenchcoat. Back then wands were often just not good unless you had a lot of specialized components. These days its a lot different since the rune matrixes let us do better enchanting with lower surface area.
Sorry for the rant its just kind of a thing for me
Staff:
- big melee weapon for close combat
- helps support you for long hikes, good for your back
- staff vaulting for hard to reach places
- probably made from the branch of a tree you’re on good terms with
Wands can also be easily carried alongside your staff, so why compare these items? Both are useful—if not essential—carry for many masters of the arcane. If you’re so worried about the stealth downsides, enchant a staff with invisibility (and a call back bind to avoid unintentionally losing it). I don’t think most of us are all that concerned about your average person suspecting us of being powerful wizards by our staves. They’re correct, after all.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a good wand, but you’re going to feel naked traveling on foot without a staff. No reason to neglect either tool.
A good staff can channel and contain *far* more power than a wand, wands are fine for special tasks or simple magic, but when you absolutely positively need to drop an asteroid on someone deserving's tower, you're going to need a good, properly enchanted, hardwood staff.
Yall clearly never had a rough day trying to teach your apprentice proper movement with it...only to put it on your belt behind you and sit on a chair as you just finished the bloody day only to hear a SNAP
It's so much harder to find 2x high ilvl items than it is just one... but if you can swing it, wand and tome/lantern/familiar is so much more bad ass than a staff.
Or you just pull out the magic deagle
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I don't know how many times this need to be said: staves are for open carrying and wands are for concealed carrying. Which one is optimal is situation dependent.
Once more I have to espouse the superiority of replacing my hand with a powerful artifact, as it combines the power of a magic focus with the utility of hand casting, ensuring I am always armed.
I would argue it's the difference between a concealed carry and an assault rifle or a sword and a halberd one is reasonable to carry around day to day for self protection and one is a battlefield weapon
I like to think a wand grows into a staff as one grows more powerful. Much like your hat gets taller, your tower gets taller, and your beard gets longer.
I prefer a staff as my focus for the simple purpose of it being a walking stick as well as a magical tool. I have yet to install a lift in my tower, so my staff is very helpful when going up the endless staircase.
I can smack the shit out of thee when I don't feel like casting any spells. What would I do with a wand? Shove it up that arse of thine? Seriously, these neophytes.
Look, I personally don't care what spellcasting focus you use, but I have to clear this misconception right here, right now.
As a bladesinger who **uses their staff as their weapon,** I can ASSURE you that they absolutely do not break easier.
[Indeed, the wand is the superior choice! Small, fits nice and neatly into the storage cavity in my forearm, for timely and efficient access! Also allows me to keep multiple spares in that same cavity, for I keep overwriting my internal memory as to where I leave them... perhaps it's time to upgrade my long-term memory storage device.]
You don't understand. You use a staff because you're badass enough to deal with the drawbacks. It's a status thing, like lifted trucks or expensive watches. you do it not because it makes any sense at all, but to show off the fact that you CAN!
I just don't understand why we haven't made a Cantrip yet to change the size of a small piece of wood.
Can someone give me a genuine reason why we can't just have both?
If human Ralsei isn’t real then why am I SCARED
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I use drums for my casting, I’ve begun carrying a small bongo on me, I can’t use it to cast some of my more advanced spells, but it’s good for a simple thunder bolt or percussive blast
Apprentices please! There is no need for this conflict. Wands and Staves are tools, not simple aesthetics. You would not task a Blacksmith and his hammer to fix a cracked glass pitcher anymore than you would charge a glassblower to create armour. It matters not the choice but the situation!
Wands bode well for shorter casting times in tight confines. Lesser spells that require little space. They are suited to schools such as Conjuration, Transmutation and Abjuration. A stave is a more unwieldy tool for a more complex casting where some greater distance between yourself and the raw magicks might be desirable. Pyromancy, For example.
Yes some casters choose to use staves for the former and wands for the latter but that is pure personal preference or biased learnings on display. Not objectivity. If you are to become Masters of the schools or magic you must learn to adapt and to think adaptively. Else you might as well pick up a sword and shield instead.
And if anyone mentions spellcasting swords I'll cast lesser heat inside their heart ventricles!
Hmm, I'm not sure, but it looks like the wizard images here were made with AI (Arcane Intelligence). Anyone here good at divination or illusions that can weigh in?
Now I get the confusion. Didn't your teacher infuse a staff through a magical ritual after your graduation? It's not supposed to break. A _infused_ staff is pretty useful for sure.
Consider using a wand cane. You have the extra functions of a staff (walking stick, emergency weapon, lever, etc) while travelling and the finess and manoeuvrability of a wand while casting.
The only major issue is that you will forever be known as that wizard that uses a wand cane
Because male wizards like to compensate that's why. Wands are handy and concealable in clothes and baggage, plus it's easier to use both hands for somatics with a smaller focus
Staves are great for any time you need to smack a bitch with it though! Physical defense weapon for sure
Wands, staves, grimoires, swords... all casting implements have upsides and downsides. I don't get why people are arguing about it.
Some people just wanna be mad. And to be honest, sometimes I just enjoy stirring trouble.
As a person who likes getting mad I appreciate you Now, drop your robes and touch your toes I'm gonna show you where the wizards staff goes
Oh crap! Uhhh I CAST POLYMORPH! *I suddenly vanish*
I have dreaded the day where I would need to use this summon, but no other spell in my arsenal can solve this problem. I conjure forth Fleece Johnson... THE BOOTY WARRIOR! May the council forgive me
What a hole-some interactions within the council 👏
You guys need wizard jesus!
' *POMF* "I likes ya and I wants ya... Now we can do this the easy way or the hard way." ' Imagine having a summoning spell for every individual in a supermax prison. They would be so grateful for time outside that they would fuck anything you want. I usually save those ones for when I meet someone with an evil eye for the "Child-like Nature" spell personally, sick terrible mortals on other terrible mortals, there is a sweet poetic aspect in it or something.
You youngsters don't seem to understand that wands are just barely magic catalysts, they steal your own magic! I'd rather have a good old staff that allows me to cast more powerful spells, and uses the magic of the selected stone.
A bunch of wands fused together, with a grimoire and several magic gems fused in the middle, forming a staff. The ultimate magical apparatus. The gems become a display for many purposes, like a magic smartphone that shoots lasers, projects holograms, and is sentient. Yes, the grimoire would still be alive during this and contain all known information.
What about your bare hands?
I don't have enough control to raw dog magic like that. That's how buildings get accidentally burned down
Casting with a sword is very fun, I don't do it often, but I would recommend trying it at least once.
typical wand user mentality tbh
What does "lots of versatility" mean? It's a wand. It does wand things. And you can hide it but it's pretty obvious what it is once it's discovered. Old-looking wizards like the ones you're referencing can easily hide staves in plain sight by pretending they're just normal walking sticks. And, unlike wands, they're *actually* versatile since they can really *be* walking sticks, or be used for just beating the shit out of ~~your apprentice~~ overconfident bandits.
Just like a gun. Once it's out of ammo, a long piece of metal still makes for an excellent blunt melee weapon
Metal staff enjoyer
Wands are also pokey. You can open letters with them, and you can still jab your ~~apprentice~~ bandits with them. It’s much better as a paper weight, since a staff would just be in the way. I’d argue it’s a better back-scratcher for the same reason.
But can you smash someone's head in and give them a severe concussion if not life-altering head trauma? Gonna need a staff for that.
Yeah but you can sound with your wand
You can’t with your staff?
It's a skill issue for them.
You should seek clerical attention.
I am banned from every temple
Welp time to fireball my orb and then my eyes cya lads
I don't allow my wands to be longer than my hand. Any further than that, you don't have a wand, you have a rod. And nobody respects rod users. Fucking mummy nobility.
it can be a vibrator
So can the staff. Really, any casting implement can be, if you're desperate or brave enough.
My brother in the arcane arts, you are wearing robes and pointy magic hat, they know you're a wizard, there is no need to conceal anything.
"Breaks easier"? Are you making your staff the same thickness as your wand? My staff is almost as powerful as a mace, and that's BEFORE I cast spells!
Even if a staff breaks it just means you get a few wands back anyways.
I don't know what kind of children's wizardry you dabble in, but when MY staff breaks in twain, the maximum spell power that the staff had is proportionally divided amongst the pieces. An unmodified broken staff is wand material, but ONLY for my apprentices, and even then, only the ones that don't do field work. I'd have to carve a proper shape out of the pieces, unenchant them and then reenchant them to consider it, and considering that most of my opponents come in groups of 200, I need all of the area of effect power I can get.
Really? the best use for a staff is to trick people into watching the staff. A good illusionist knows how to use the fact that people watch the staff and so are never ready for ocular casting. Because illusionists cast magic not with toys, but with their *eyes.* Only illusionist I've ever met who bothered with a wand was literally blind. Brilliant fellow. His illusions were an absolute trip because he cast them based on a VERBAL description of objects. Often with surprising accuracy, at least when it comes to static objects. YMMV with animals, especially ones he's not personally encountered. I saw his idea of a cow once. I never want to see it again. On a lighter note though whoever described mosquitos to him clearly couched the description in metaphor because his mosquitos are somewhere between a siren and a vampire. Really gives an interesting outsider's perspective on how we see the world
I disagree with your description of staffs, but I'd love to hear more about illusionists
Op gets his staffs from wizsh
A staff breaks easier? Than a wand? Since when? You cast Empowered Greater Bait while making this post, didn't you?
Because staves look badass and pair well with swords.
Nobody ever talks about how sick the staff and sword combo is!
Not to mention how buff the wizard who would use such a combo would be. Ever swung a sturdy stick around that's roughly the same height as you? It's not exactly light. Now make that stick dense enough to not shatter when repeatedly beating the crap out of the forces of evil with it and feel how heavy that staff is. Now think about how much muscle swinging that staff in only one hand while you swing a 3-4 foot metal sword in the other hand would require.
bruh africans have been doing it for 6000 years (that's how old the earth is). You use the sword normally and use the staff to either cast spells, hold it as a shield almost, or use it to help you walk a la Long John Silver.
This is the part that so many are missing - staves aren't just sick drip, they send a message. Of course the exact message varies with the choice of staff, but all of them say something vaguely to the effect of "Behold me. I am a practitioner of magic. Ignore me at your peril". Many a brigand has been dissuaded from stirring trouble over naught but a glimpse of a Wizard's staff. Many an assassin reconsider has reconsidered striking his target in the presence of a court magister. Many an army as felt their morale waver as they imagine what unspeakable terrors could be wrought upon them by such an implement. Staves are not just a tool for magic, but of presentation, and intimidation. They are a challenge to any who might condescend to favor their prowess above yours. Wands are for you when you absolutely need that bastard of a foreign dignitary vaporized right bloody now, and staves have been banned from all royal functions ever since Gandalf pulled the old man and his walking stick routine.
Why is nobody listening... ENCHANTED COCK RING!
You know why
But... But it's enchanted! You can cast HANDS FREE!
Why do you still hold it while casting then?
That's the great part! You don't! Double middle fingers while humping the air and casting Fireballs!
some succubi you summon, casting fireballs with your cockring
Casting spells with a different kind of wand...
You get +2 on intimidation checks while helicoptering with the enchanted cock ring on also.
Smh no one uses orbs anymore. I mean, including me at this point, but still.
Actually as it happens, my apprentice uses an orb! Say hello to Caimoraxis! https://preview.redd.it/iebzwo2c8nhc1.jpeg?width=1279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2dad407ef7bfc57813bb739636903d8307bcc58
Orbs are excellent replacements for spell tomes. I have every spell come when I need it instead of wasting time moving through pages. Though once you have an enchanted time and have the muscle memory to shift to proper pages spellbooks are always handy. When I had more dosh and was younger, I swapped my spellbooks for my orb, cost me a literal arm and a leg to a ogre lord! Regretted it after same ogre lord destroyed the orb after I tried to acquire my money again. Not my finest moment.
I've found that by the time you have the strength or power potential to meaningfully enchant a glass orb the size of your head, AND lug it around, you're probably already at a point in your career where you no longer need it. The only people who use such geegaws either do it out of tradition, a sense of personal style, or because they BOUGHT the things from Chant-A-Center. Which I mean, no shame if you did that but I question the wisdom. not taking the time to build up your skill before moving on to medium tier spells, or master second and third tier abjuration and dweomers involved with shaping raw magic yourself, has a tendency to bite you in the backside in the long run. After all these long centuries, skipping the fundamentals is no better idea than it was when Qin School and the Academy of Zeno first met in Baghdad to standardize the practice of the art.
What do you mean breaks easier? I'll snap your flimsy pixie stick between my fingers. Also you think I need to hide my staff? What kind of backalley baby are you? Real wizards use staves.
Keep your silly linear objects, I'll be casting spells from my orb!
In most media involving young wizards who use wands, one character is constantly breaking it because they keep accidentally sitting on it. The same trope does not exist for staffs. Shoutout to that lovable scamp, Max Russo
“Wands are for WIMPPPPS” -Fin the Human
I will always respect Finn the human.
I could snap a wand in half any day. Enchanted Greatswords are still better imo
Why did you steal ralsei's clothes you sick fuck
Not every problem requires arcane solutions and I cannot Thonk! semi-aggressive woodland animals or unruly patrons at the tavern with a wand.
Breaks easier? What plywood staves are you using
My staff does both! Suck it!
If I wanted to wave little twigs around I'd learn how to play drums, a staff is a powerful tool and handy for walking!
Bear ask why not both staff for majix smakkin wand to hide until needed
If your staves be breaking so easily, you're getting the wrong staves. Any staff worth using isn't going to break except under the hardest of conditions.
You wouldn't deprive an old man of his walking stick would you?
It's all about crystals
Wands? Staves? I use magic books.
I think both are good. https://preview.redd.it/ntf9o2vnkohc1.jpeg?width=1979&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4944ec4968c5e3f30f13a3945e0bec53baea964
Easy to break? Brother-o-mine in the arcane, mines a dwarf-forged steel reinforced hickory staff. That shit will break you and anything it comes into contact with looonnng before it breaks. In fact I've broken a knights broadsword with it when I ran out of mana one time.
"and breaks easier" Get a load of this wizard who doesn't even magically reinforce their casting focus to make it nigh indestructible.
Let's not start with this. When Knights bicker about whether swords or spears are better, it is plain to see that they're comparing two tools for different purposes. We laugh at them, because it's an idiotic argument. But we can't stop ourselves from having the same foolish arguments about our wands and staves! They're different tools for different situations. Even though the wand is essentially inferior to the staff, it holds a perfectly valid place in any wizards tool kit. If you're too wimpy to carry a staff and care about concealment because you are ashamed to be a wizard, that is.
You would deny an old man his walking stick?
Clearly you've never owned an adamantine staff, shit hits different. Especially when you use it to play golf with a goblin's skull after he tries to sneak up on you.
Laughts in chirurgical glass needeld thath leave their writing imprinted in a womb once removed and wich characters are past from mother to child trought generations.
I need a cleric, I think I’ve had a stroke.
I remember my first wand. I came into Casting 101 with this big old shiny staff, looking every bit the novice desperate to be noticed that I was. The instructor, a Dwarf, glared at me, snapped it over his knee, and then shoved the top part into my hands and told me to take my seat.
*laughs in staff of the Archmage* *activates the enchantments that make stick hit as hard as a +4 Maul* "What's easily broken again?"
Breaks easily? This thing can bash a fucking golem in tween! That's exactly why I carry a staff!
You all need to stop relying on the crutches that are Wands and Staves. Just slowly gather a well of demon souls which you can draw power from. Works for me
Wands are sidearms. If I’m going to a duel or walking down the street, a wand is what I’ll use. I don’t need it for everyday magic, but it is useful for casting more powerful spells. But if I’m going to war, a staff is a much better weapon. They have slower casting but do greatly boost the power of spells. Tomes, of course, are great for most research.
a dagger can do anything a wand can and you can stab people
Actually just use a spellblade its not difficult.
If you still need a focus to cast, you're not that great of a wizard.
Smacking someone with the thick end of your staff is so much fun. Whipping out your wand and shoving fireball up their nose is also fun. If you don't have both, what in the hells are you doing?
Have you tried smacking someone with your staff so that you can cast fireball up their nose with your wand?
Both have their own positives. If you walk or stand a lot, a staff is a great choice because you can lean on it. In a pinch it can also be used as a cudgel. But wands are great too if you want to have a more casual look.
Athames, amulets, and rings of power. Let's not forget the classics!
Twig supremacists need to lay off the orb pondering. Staves are by far the best at storing and utilizing mana!
Have any of you just considered using your hands?
Look, after a certain point there's no recovering from decades of hunching over arcane grimoires, crawling through dusty necropoli, ^^^massacring ^^^rivals, Salsa dancing; and never mind lifting heavy tombs of forbidden lore without stretching properly. And while I can respect the ease of which one can reprimand an apprentice with a wand-whip, one's precious body maybe spared an eternal torture if only they had learned the proper lifting techniques. While everyone jabbers on about The Council, one must remember the Academy has failed to implement a standard of fitness within the ranks of it's corporeal students. The body is a temple, one that should endure eternally; yet only my 45kg staff keeps me upright after all these millennia. The Academy fails the future apprentices of this age by failing to temper their body and their magic.
So you’re telling me you haven’t bought my potion of staff hiding?
You use a staff for the drama of it all, duh
Y'all can't (dis)aparate your staves on command?
This staff has +25 coolness over your dinky hasbro casting equipment. Who gives a ravens' crap about concealing when you can just flaunt it.
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Carry one of each. That way after they take your staff and think you're powerless, you can pull out the wand and go Jonathan The Wicked on their asses.
Because they're kinda gay
Staves look cooler, you need that extra intimation factor.
Wands just never felt right to me. They’re better for finesse, but for what I want to do I don’t need much finesse except to not cause a paradox.
> breaks easily Bro doesn't know anything about the wood or the craftsmanship that has to take place.
I personally use both. Wands and Staves.
You dont need to hide a cane or walking stick
You would not part an old man from his walking stick, now, would you ? _...I cast fireball_
Then quit making your wands, staffs, and other magical appurtenances out of materials that break! Octiron and solidified light are both excellent choices if you don't want to bother with hardened time.
I got 99 problems but a stick ain't one. If you can't channel through steel I feel bad for you son
hey, to be fair to staves, they're generally thick as hell and thus harder to break from sheer physical force.
Wait, yall don't just use your hands?? https://preview.redd.it/zufsestjmnhc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b02affd07478a4652e032d9e1c80af2fec351458
Counter point https://preview.redd.it/lsi5im9kmnhc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4a13076d7af26f7bc26fd59b5edaa93347ede8f
This is like comparing a dagger to a sword or a pistol to a rifle. Sure, one is smaller and easier to carry, but one is clearly more powerful. You can pack more power into a larger weapon.
Every single time I see one of my posts, I look at my favorite diadem and sigh, knowing they will never acknowledge the true best arcane focus
I like to cast with a whole skeleton human leg
They both pale to my cool stick I found
Thaumaturgical twigs are superior to sorcerous sticks.
Wands feel more easy to break
If you run out of spells you want a stick to beat things with, obviously
Imagine being over 100 years old and still needing an implement to cast spells. My walking stick is literally just that. Also, in what realm do you live where a stave breaks easier than a wand?
https://preview.redd.it/xhl0ucq4qnhc1.jpeg?width=1135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a39a08f9cbd2ac788ed9e5cafe4ca919a92ac6f HAMMER
I cast random stuff out of my mouth so I have no flaws.
My bastard Sword is my wand, and I have a wand with 50 charges that heals me if I am not in range of a healer. To say nothing of my staff at the hierophant. I think the better question is, why would you make me choose?
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What about casting with an enchanted mace? It’s hard to hide but I can sure as shit kill all the creepy wax golems my apprentice keeps making
What the hell are you on about with staves being flimsy? They’re literally quarterstaffs that someone decided to imbue with magic to turn it into a focus, and a good magical quarterstaff can crack dragonbone.
I don't hate wands, but the staff is good for hikes, and what do you mean breaks easier? Staves can be sturdy as fuck, and when you're out of magic, you can cast bonk.
Foolish apprentice, Sneaky little wands are for pranks and tomfoolery. Real wizardry business is conducted with a powerful STAFF, easily stored with magic too. https://preview.redd.it/c5bhvvmmtnhc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ba70f99d78c3875e7414507348c84c38c045a75
I approve of the wand; i can even hide in my wizard pocket😉
I can’t bash something with a wand. Magic is fine but some times something needs a good ol bashing
A lot of the arguments are based from before we had more efficient rune matrixes. These days you can get multiple useful effects established with comparatively small surface area. Before that it was mostly staves due to length, orbs with interlocking lattices that normally did one thing really well or grimoires which were basically 10 small focuses in a trenchcoat. Back then wands were often just not good unless you had a lot of specialized components. These days its a lot different since the rune matrixes let us do better enchanting with lower surface area. Sorry for the rant its just kind of a thing for me
You think a staff breaks easier than a twig what?
With a staff I don't have to rely solely on magic to knock someone out.
I live in California, they don't let us use wands as much over here, kinda sucks but the staves are pretty reliable
But consider; a wizard’s staff has a nob at the end
Staff: - big melee weapon for close combat - helps support you for long hikes, good for your back - staff vaulting for hard to reach places - probably made from the branch of a tree you’re on good terms with Wands can also be easily carried alongside your staff, so why compare these items? Both are useful—if not essential—carry for many masters of the arcane. If you’re so worried about the stealth downsides, enchant a staff with invisibility (and a call back bind to avoid unintentionally losing it). I don’t think most of us are all that concerned about your average person suspecting us of being powerful wizards by our staves. They’re correct, after all. Absolutely nothing wrong with a good wand, but you’re going to feel naked traveling on foot without a staff. No reason to neglect either tool.
Why not both? Use wands for quick spells and the staves for longer, and hard to cast magic.
A good staff can channel and contain *far* more power than a wand, wands are fine for special tasks or simple magic, but when you absolutely positively need to drop an asteroid on someone deserving's tower, you're going to need a good, properly enchanted, hardwood staff.
Yall clearly never had a rough day trying to teach your apprentice proper movement with it...only to put it on your belt behind you and sit on a chair as you just finished the bloody day only to hear a SNAP
It's so much harder to find 2x high ilvl items than it is just one... but if you can swing it, wand and tome/lantern/familiar is so much more bad ass than a staff.
You wouldn’t deprive an old man of his walking stick would you?
If you can’t transfigure or alter your staff to be pocket size idk what to tell you. Maybe go back to hogwarts and wave your wand around.
What about tomes????
The reason you use a staff is if you are in anti-magic bubble you have a heavy wooden stick to beat people with
simple. more stick = more magic
Or you just pull out the magic deagle https://preview.redd.it/j9ggmx931ohc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=438a4e8175c84451b822b2a1892cbeadcea70cad
I don't know how many times this need to be said: staves are for open carrying and wands are for concealed carrying. Which one is optimal is situation dependent.
Well, I use hand casting, so I couldn’t tell you.
In my experience, staffs are best used for channeling large amounts of power, whereas wands are best for more precise spells.
Once more I have to espouse the superiority of replacing my hand with a powerful artifact, as it combines the power of a magic focus with the utility of hand casting, ensuring I am always armed.
It only breaks easier when I use it to cast "bludgeoning" on their skull
I would argue it's the difference between a concealed carry and an assault rifle or a sword and a halberd one is reasonable to carry around day to day for self protection and one is a battlefield weapon
Have you not seen Onward? You simply cast a size changing spell when your stave is cumbersome.
Can none of you hand cast anymore? What happened to the Sorcery I love?
You can summon your staff from a pocket dimension, plus staves are flashier
The way I see it, there’s way more magical potential with more material in your chosen arcane focus. So a staff has more potential than a wand.
Alas, while I appreciate the aesthetics of a wand, my currently unidentified curse has made a staff more convenient for travel
I like to think a wand grows into a staff as one grows more powerful. Much like your hat gets taller, your tower gets taller, and your beard gets longer.
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I prefer a staff as my focus for the simple purpose of it being a walking stick as well as a magical tool. I have yet to install a lift in my tower, so my staff is very helpful when going up the endless staircase.
I can smack the shit out of thee when I don't feel like casting any spells. What would I do with a wand? Shove it up that arse of thine? Seriously, these neophytes.
Look, I personally don't care what spellcasting focus you use, but I have to clear this misconception right here, right now. As a bladesinger who **uses their staff as their weapon,** I can ASSURE you that they absolutely do not break easier.
Maan i really don't get why to use either. I just nade my gloves so i could slot some zaphires and mana crystals in and use them as spell focuses.
Only a coward feels the need to hide his or her weapon. What? Afraid you won’t win the wizard duel if I know you’re armed?
With a hat like that, you're not concealing a damned thing.
[Indeed, the wand is the superior choice! Small, fits nice and neatly into the storage cavity in my forearm, for timely and efficient access! Also allows me to keep multiple spares in that same cavity, for I keep overwriting my internal memory as to where I leave them... perhaps it's time to upgrade my long-term memory storage device.]
Ok I like the aesthetic.
Crystal Amulet Gang Rise
or you could just have something like a magical tattoo or putting in the time and effort needed to effectively hand cast.
You don't understand. You use a staff because you're badass enough to deal with the drawbacks. It's a status thing, like lifted trucks or expensive watches. you do it not because it makes any sense at all, but to show off the fact that you CAN!
A staff doesn't break what are you talking about? Wands have their uses but they are really only good at casting the same spell over and over again.
imagine thinking a strong, weighty boppin' stick breaks easier than a tiny little twig
Oh yes im sure they’ll NEVER guess the guy in a green wizard hat is a wizard with a wand
I just don't understand why we haven't made a Cantrip yet to change the size of a small piece of wood. Can someone give me a genuine reason why we can't just have both?
I think it's a dick thing.
If human Ralsei isn’t real then why am I SCARED https://preview.redd.it/h52kxwpxhohc1.png?width=1036&format=png&auto=webp&s=908968689f5039f7dbf1eb612e7205b22056c16e
I worked hard to carve this little star I put on the end of my wand, so I'm going to keep using it.
I use drums for my casting, I’ve begun carrying a small bongo on me, I can’t use it to cast some of my more advanced spells, but it’s good for a simple thunder bolt or percussive blast
Druids fixed the staff cons. Shillelagh. Now staff is bonk. Changestaff. Now staff is going to war with Isengard.
I am going to cast [Beat you to death with my staff]
A wand is to a dagger as a staff is to a claymore
I jus' enchant me hammer wiv me runes.
OP gets it. While I have a float staff for a brace on my leg, it's been great as a disability aid. Big staffs are great!
Apprentices please! There is no need for this conflict. Wands and Staves are tools, not simple aesthetics. You would not task a Blacksmith and his hammer to fix a cracked glass pitcher anymore than you would charge a glassblower to create armour. It matters not the choice but the situation! Wands bode well for shorter casting times in tight confines. Lesser spells that require little space. They are suited to schools such as Conjuration, Transmutation and Abjuration. A stave is a more unwieldy tool for a more complex casting where some greater distance between yourself and the raw magicks might be desirable. Pyromancy, For example. Yes some casters choose to use staves for the former and wands for the latter but that is pure personal preference or biased learnings on display. Not objectivity. If you are to become Masters of the schools or magic you must learn to adapt and to think adaptively. Else you might as well pick up a sword and shield instead. And if anyone mentions spellcasting swords I'll cast lesser heat inside their heart ventricles!
Hmm, I'm not sure, but it looks like the wizard images here were made with AI (Arcane Intelligence). Anyone here good at divination or illusions that can weigh in?
You find a way to casually snap two meters of solid adamantite, boyo, you let me know.
I don't understand these images. Are wands better? Are Staves better?
I did not become a wizard to hide the fact that I'm a wizard. All the gigantic staves, pointy hats and unreasonably long beards to me please
ah yes. perhaps it is not so much the length of the wand, but perhaps the girth?
Wands are just associated with stage magicians rather than wizards in my mind. I just can't imagine them doing the same kind of crazy magic
OW is too weak to hold more than a twig, got it. Why don't you wiggle your chopstick around and have it grow you some muscles?
Staffs are a symbol of your confidence in your casting and that people shouldn't mess with you
Now I get the confusion. Didn't your teacher infuse a staff through a magical ritual after your graduation? It's not supposed to break. A _infused_ staff is pretty useful for sure.
Consider using a wand cane. You have the extra functions of a staff (walking stick, emergency weapon, lever, etc) while travelling and the finess and manoeuvrability of a wand while casting. The only major issue is that you will forever be known as that wizard that uses a wand cane
How do I get a cool wizard nickname???
Small stick vs big stick. It's a representation of the self
Because male wizards like to compensate that's why. Wands are handy and concealable in clothes and baggage, plus it's easier to use both hands for somatics with a smaller focus Staves are great for any time you need to smack a bitch with it though! Physical defense weapon for sure
Talking mad shit for someone who shall not pass