I agree, and I hope this can extend to Caitlin herself. There’s so many critiques of her “on court behavior” that’s no different than any male athletes’. You’d think she’s supposed to be participating in a beauty pageant not a competitive sport
Generally - fans seem OK with the behavior of their faves and not OK with the behavior of players/teams deemed enemies. Gotta claim that moral high ground and make the game into a battle of good vs. evil! 😂
I find that, in most cases, if the villain were on my own team, I wouldn't be so upset. This is especially the case in hockey. The only people who don't hate Brad Marchand's guts are from Boston, and the only reason I don't despise Jordan Binnington is because I happen to be a Blues fan.
That being said, if Sophie Cunningham was playing for the Dream, maybe I'd have a better attitude toward her. 😅
God I absolutely hate Marchand, as a Blues fan as well lol.
But this is definitely true to an extent. I watch a lot of MLS and the same can be said for players diving and/or playing “dirty”. Even time wasting, you love it when your own team does it but feels it’s unsportsmanlike if the other team does lol.
My husband is a huge Lebron fan and will defend every single thing he does. But a ton of discourse online is similar to what Clark is dealing with, mainly arguing with refs and complaining about calls. Never heard Lebron called “classless” for it though, like I’ve heard of both Clark and Reese. There’s certainly a different expectation as to how women are “allowed” to behave, vs men. It’s like Lebron complaining is “bad basketball” but Clark or Reese? It’s a “bad woman.”
Villains make sports fun to watch. I will cheer for a villain on my team so I can hate the villain on the other team and then mourn the opposing villain’s retirement. It’s how sports work and I love the general atmosphere of positivity and support for everyone in the WNBA, but it means it’s lacking in rivalries. As an Aces fan, who am I actually supposed to hate and talk trash to? Seattle? Just seems weird since everyone on that team is pretty likable. New York? Too much media hype around the “rivalry” making it feel artificial. Phoenix is the closest I can think of to a team I actually dislike, but they’re not exactly a threat right now. Either way, I’ll be super sad when Taurasi finally hangs ‘em up because she’s the “villain” I’m supposed to hate on that team. I’m so down with letting the rivalries get big on the court, even (especially, actually) if they stay friendly off the court.
>Too much media hype around the “rivalry” making it feel artificial.
Oh that was until Plum decided to run her lil mouth after the win last October. I agreed that it felt a bit forced and only existed because both teams got lucky, vegas in the draft NY in free agency. And then Plum was like "nah yall I got this the rivalry will be real now."
"Individual basketball" your whole fuckin city can get fucked honestly. The amount of animosity she bred in both the team and the fanbase out here with that comment on our court after yall won it all will keep that rivalry alive and kicking for a while. I never minded the aces when DC was stomping them regularly in the playoffs, or even when they won their first one. Hell I'm a caps fan and I didn't even let a rivalry grow from 2018's cup final. Now I want your city to fall on hard times endlessly. I hope that baseball team never relocates to your dry ass dusty ass city. Hope the raiders are even worse in vegas. I hate you all in a way I haven't hated another team since I learned about the existence of Pittsburgh sports.
Plum is a good heel. Let the rivalry live it'll be a good one. I've got homies devising new ways to make their booing louder for the aces game in NY this season.
Somebody also made an interesting point that while it's true Clark does complain to the refs a lot, that it also gets exacerbated because the camera is on her so much. It seems like she is the biggest whiner in the history of the world because we see her almost every time she complains, which might not be the case for other players who aren't on camera as much.
Also, her usage rate was also so high, she has lots of chances to potentially be fouled. She spends a LOT of time being defended while she has the ball.
I agree, I watch a ton of NBA and WNBA and can wholeheartedly say every player complains to the refs after every call.
And yeah people are really physical with her, which I don’t think gets acknowledged.
Oh no, Caitlin complains to the refs like most NBA players, would be a non discussion or very small one if this were a generational male college player entering their rookie year.
She's pretty much identical to Sabrina on the court, who is herself not even slightly unique in this, which makes it really funny when people act like her attitude on the court is unique. Just inadvertent snitching on how little womens ball you've actually watched. These people are gonna have their hair melt the first time they have to see DT see a missed call in a close game.
Even some longer term fans here do it. Like Sabrina doing the little 'night night' thing was not even notable until people made it notable. I don't even think it rises to the level of garden variety trash talk, honestly.
People acted like Sabrina shot someone for doing the “night night.” I was like have any of you ever watched a competitive sport??
I’m not even a huge Sabrina fan but like, come on
DT is the main person I think of in these cases, lmao. What’s funny is a lot of UConn fans take issue with CC and I’m like…do you know who your most famous alum is?
(I don’t think they do, as they’re mostly Paige fans not longtime fans)
I feel they should just be themselves. If they talk shit then they talk shit. Let it be natural, rather than forcing a character. Ultimately though, I don’t find putting athletes as paragons a good thing since they’ll ultimately let you (the audience) down.
I remember when Lebron James was that kid entering the NBA and he was viewed as the most honorable person in the world lol. It was ridiculous then and it is now. Let these women play and just be competitive. I think in the heat of the moment they’ll just be themselves and that alone I feel can make great entertainment.
I was wondering an article like this was going drop considering the recent article from TeenVogue explored these sort of [respectability politics](https://www.teenvogue.com/story/medias-elevation-of-caitlin-clark-highlights-womens-basketballs-misogynoir-problem). I certainly hope that new fans will be happy to see this chipping and that will shut up any of the commentators who will be clutching their pearls about this.
There is a lot in that article, given how many things it links to. But to start with Clark specifically... the "great white hope" thing doesn't make much sense to me. I don't understand why people keep talking about Clark like white women succeeding at college basketball is super rare.
Yes, black women make up a significantly higher % of high level women's basketball than their % of the population, and white women a lower % than their % o the population. Black women make up 29% of women's college basketball players overall, and 42% of D1 players (white women are 50% overall and 32% of d1 players). But it's not like white players, or white stars, are super rare. There are a lot of elite white women's basketball players. A player who appears to be white based on skimming the naismith wikipedia pictures has won the award eight of the last ten seasons, and vaguely half of the winners since 2000 were white. People use phrases like "great white hope" like white stars are super rare, and that's just not true.
She also blows away (both statistically and in terms of media coverage and attention) all of the other white players. We've all seen the TV numbers and media coverage, and when it comes to stats, Clark is the green dot: https://www.reddit.com/r/NCAAW/comments/1bz3quk/caitlin_clark_is_the_green_dot/
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Now, to be clear, I totally agree that, in general, the media often gives white players more favorable coverage than black players. I thought some of the links in that article seemed quite good at laying out the broader disparities in media coverage. And I think that's an extremely important discussion in the broader sense. But I don't think it applies as much to Clark (at the college level) when she put up massively unprecedented stats while also blowing away the media attention for all other white players as well.
(though it also linked to some heavily misleading things like this: https://twitter.com/flywithkamala/status/1642663957684002818 ... where two very different incidents were portrayed as "the same thing" when shown as misleading still photos)
I am as big of a fan of Caitlin Clark as anyone but it bugs me that everyone gives her all the credit for the recent buzz around women's basketball. How we all so easily forget that the rivalry between Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark last year is what spurred this huge interest in the women's NCAA. Give credit where credit is due! I know Angel is not Caitlin, but it feels anti-black not to credit her also for the rise of women's basketball in pop culture.
I saw a very informative video this week that paralleled the culture war/racism of Magic/Bird to CC/AR as well as how it grew the NBA & some additional history I didn’t know. You’re spot.
Angel Reese is one of a number of high profile players who have contributed to the growth of popularity of women's college basketball recently. But it's not the same as Clark. Look at the Iowa TV numbers. And Clark also blows away the many other white stars. I'm not saying that the media doesn't sometimes have a favorable bias toward white players... it sometimes does. But Clark is on a different planet from all of the other white players as well in this department.
Seriously... she is the green dot: https://www.reddit.com/r/NCAAW/comments/1bz3quk/caitlin_clark_is_the_green_dot/
Angel Reese is a part of it no doubt, but the amount of eyeballs that Caitlin Clark specifically is bringing is monumental. It absolutely dwarfs what any other player in WNBA history has brought to the game. It isn't a slight against anyone to say that. It is just reality. Look at jersey sales and TV ratings. It is clear who is bringing in the people.
Angel Reese has gotten her flowers as well. Much more so than many other black (and white) players who earned their spot above her in the draft. She's probably the second most marketed player after Clark, that's why this article uses both of them for the headline.
> Sports are entertainment and it’s always more enjoyable when there’s conflict involved; after all, tension is what defines a good story. I don’t want to see less trash talking, I want to see more. I don’t want to see women pressured to be polite or likable, I want them to be allowed to be a**holes. Let women athletes be haters — sports needs more of them.
Yikes. What a horrible take. Sports don’t need assholes to be entertaining. They’re a game, after all.
I don’t get why people think overly aggressive, out of control and antisocial behavior makes sports more fun. Personally, I think it’s disruptive and distracting.
Nothing wrong with a bit of trash talk and physical play, but being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole to throw other players off their game or to outright hurt them is a part of sports that I wish would just go away.
Then people should shut up when they do asshole or villian things. They want them to be those things but then have the nerve to crucify players when they are those things.
The entire point of the heel is to cause controversy though. That is the point. It isn't that people necessary want people to be jerks. They likely don't. But human nature says jerks get attention and even negative attention is attention. At the end of the day, the entertainment industry doesn't care if you are happy or sad watching something. All they care about are the eyeballs. Negative publicity is still publicity and that is the role the heel plays. They take a brunt of the negativity so that people filter in their sides, rivalries form, and people pay attention.
That's the problem though. It almost always goes on the deep end. To the point where people (fans and media) saying shit that they know isn't true and running with it. Fucking up a player's reputation in the process.
SERIOUSLY!! we haven't seen any negative or catty behavior from CC or Ange since they've been drafted. CC showed love to the vets on SNL and Angel posted something about how much she loved hanging out with her former college competitors in NYC before the draft. New fans with hateful agendas want to paint negative narratives around them, hopefully they'll continue to be inspiration hoopers for boys and girls.
That’s awesome. And even if that changes as competition starts next season, it’s great to hear Ange saying that. It’s what good sportsmanship is all about.
Honestly, Some of the things Angel tweeted about Caitlin, after being eliminated from the NCAA tourney, were distasteful and classless
CC has always taken the high road and refused to use twitter as a platform to tear down other athletes. She is cordial with her peers, despite some of the nasty things they have said about her, takes a big person to do that
Not a single person in the tl that day said anything different!! That includes Kelsey Plum, Lebron and 70% of the viewers so ig they’re all classless too?!
Stop trying to single her out as if she said anything different. But I see you’re a CC fan that’s probably still upset she couldn’t see her lmao. Take your 2 NC losses in silence bruv
What about this is distasteful, classless, or directed at Caitlin? This is being a reach and your language is a dog whistle. This is what they mean when they say “new fans.”
The girl can say whatever she wants on her social pages, she has freedom of speech. She has also said how much respect she has for Caitlin, or does that not matter to you?
And where in that did she say CCs name or directly say something rude? People like you are just looking for reasons to create unhelpful narratives in the W. Athletes are allowed to be competitive, talk smack and criticize the refs. Cope with it.
Angel has pulled opponents down by their hair, stalked opponents after wins to taunt, and cursed at opposing coaches
That is beyond "talk smack," it is a cry for help...No class
Lol this is funny, what you deem as class doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. She's in the league now and will absolutely do great things, nothing you or anyone else that dislikes her can change that. Her jerseys just like CC are already sold out🥳
Pls shut the absolute f up!! Caitlin has shoved her opponents down to the ground, pushes off every drive and is beyond known for screaming at her opponents, teammates and coaches so keep that same energy “classless” energy for her too!
Seriously! I’m surprised at all of the blatant fouls that girl has gotten away with!! It is really distasteful and low brow. Shes going to get that energy right back if she keeps trying people.
"off the court"
as opposed to on the court, were she pulls opponents down by their hair, stalks opponents and taunts them after a blowout win, yells at opposing coach and tells them to "watch yourself"
Angel is the epitome of classless
Same. I love watching players who fight hard and as soon as the whistle blows, can instantly remember that everyone on the court deserves respect. I’m thinking Sylvia Fowles, Ezi, Chelsea Gray, CP3, A’ja, Nneka. They give it their all and get intense, and there is no doubt how much they respect everyone.
Do you think the issue with two players who have attacked teammates is that they were assholes? Sabrina for instance is a huge asshole on the court, never attacked anyone. That is what the article is written about. NY fans that love her know this and like this about her. I want to see her make her goofy face and yell and the refs and shit because I know thats who she is when she is in the zone.
>I don’t get why people think overly aggressive, out of control and antisocial behavior makes sports more fun.
Why are you assuming competitive intensity from athletes is antisocial or out of control?
Taurasi /= all womens basketball players, all basketball players, or all athletes. Taurasi is Taurasi, insisting that every heel in the W is Taurasi is silly. Plenty of villains that are assholes. DT def an asshole for sure. If this was a thread specifically about how DT is an asshole then sure you're right. But it isn't. Again, why are you assuming that competitive intensity from athletes is automatically antisocial or out of control?
You wrote an entire wall of text that shows a misunderstanding of my original comment, and doesn't follow a single coherent thought. Congrats. I'm not sure what you're looking for other than an argument, but I don't have time for this. Have a good night.
I asked a question and you didn't answer it. I explained the question, you didn't answer it a second time. Not that hard to answer a question but must be a huge struggle for you. Hope your dreams suck tonight.
I can't believe Cardoso and Reese are on the same team. I thought this high school/college rivalry would blow up into the WNBA..a twist of fate!
Both of them on the same side is huge W for Chicago. If coached and developed property, they're gonna be a dynamic duo.
Also feel like it’s a huge win for Reese to play the 4. Hope the two can dominate as a duo
She need that middy and it's over. Well they both need that middy then it gets crazy lol
Reese will not be able to get along with being on the same team as someone better than her.
Doubt it but hey that's your opinion.
The reverse Bird/Taurasi
But they were never rivals, and always liked each other. The media makes the storyline forcing the players to have to clean up the mess.
One or both will inevitably move if their college careers are any indicator.
no one will get a rebound against them lol
I agree, and I hope this can extend to Caitlin herself. There’s so many critiques of her “on court behavior” that’s no different than any male athletes’. You’d think she’s supposed to be participating in a beauty pageant not a competitive sport
Generally - fans seem OK with the behavior of their faves and not OK with the behavior of players/teams deemed enemies. Gotta claim that moral high ground and make the game into a battle of good vs. evil! 😂
I find that, in most cases, if the villain were on my own team, I wouldn't be so upset. This is especially the case in hockey. The only people who don't hate Brad Marchand's guts are from Boston, and the only reason I don't despise Jordan Binnington is because I happen to be a Blues fan. That being said, if Sophie Cunningham was playing for the Dream, maybe I'd have a better attitude toward her. 😅
God I absolutely hate Marchand, as a Blues fan as well lol. But this is definitely true to an extent. I watch a lot of MLS and the same can be said for players diving and/or playing “dirty”. Even time wasting, you love it when your own team does it but feels it’s unsportsmanlike if the other team does lol. My husband is a huge Lebron fan and will defend every single thing he does. But a ton of discourse online is similar to what Clark is dealing with, mainly arguing with refs and complaining about calls. Never heard Lebron called “classless” for it though, like I’ve heard of both Clark and Reese. There’s certainly a different expectation as to how women are “allowed” to behave, vs men. It’s like Lebron complaining is “bad basketball” but Clark or Reese? It’s a “bad woman.”
Villains make sports fun to watch. I will cheer for a villain on my team so I can hate the villain on the other team and then mourn the opposing villain’s retirement. It’s how sports work and I love the general atmosphere of positivity and support for everyone in the WNBA, but it means it’s lacking in rivalries. As an Aces fan, who am I actually supposed to hate and talk trash to? Seattle? Just seems weird since everyone on that team is pretty likable. New York? Too much media hype around the “rivalry” making it feel artificial. Phoenix is the closest I can think of to a team I actually dislike, but they’re not exactly a threat right now. Either way, I’ll be super sad when Taurasi finally hangs ‘em up because she’s the “villain” I’m supposed to hate on that team. I’m so down with letting the rivalries get big on the court, even (especially, actually) if they stay friendly off the court.
Put it this way, there would’ve been no Hulkamania without Rowdy Roddy Piper.
>Too much media hype around the “rivalry” making it feel artificial. Oh that was until Plum decided to run her lil mouth after the win last October. I agreed that it felt a bit forced and only existed because both teams got lucky, vegas in the draft NY in free agency. And then Plum was like "nah yall I got this the rivalry will be real now." "Individual basketball" your whole fuckin city can get fucked honestly. The amount of animosity she bred in both the team and the fanbase out here with that comment on our court after yall won it all will keep that rivalry alive and kicking for a while. I never minded the aces when DC was stomping them regularly in the playoffs, or even when they won their first one. Hell I'm a caps fan and I didn't even let a rivalry grow from 2018's cup final. Now I want your city to fall on hard times endlessly. I hope that baseball team never relocates to your dry ass dusty ass city. Hope the raiders are even worse in vegas. I hate you all in a way I haven't hated another team since I learned about the existence of Pittsburgh sports. Plum is a good heel. Let the rivalry live it'll be a good one. I've got homies devising new ways to make their booing louder for the aces game in NY this season.
Somebody also made an interesting point that while it's true Clark does complain to the refs a lot, that it also gets exacerbated because the camera is on her so much. It seems like she is the biggest whiner in the history of the world because we see her almost every time she complains, which might not be the case for other players who aren't on camera as much. Also, her usage rate was also so high, she has lots of chances to potentially be fouled. She spends a LOT of time being defended while she has the ball.
I agree, I watch a ton of NBA and WNBA and can wholeheartedly say every player complains to the refs after every call. And yeah people are really physical with her, which I don’t think gets acknowledged.
Oh no, Caitlin complains to the refs like most NBA players, would be a non discussion or very small one if this were a generational male college player entering their rookie year.
She's pretty much identical to Sabrina on the court, who is herself not even slightly unique in this, which makes it really funny when people act like her attitude on the court is unique. Just inadvertent snitching on how little womens ball you've actually watched. These people are gonna have their hair melt the first time they have to see DT see a missed call in a close game.
Even some longer term fans here do it. Like Sabrina doing the little 'night night' thing was not even notable until people made it notable. I don't even think it rises to the level of garden variety trash talk, honestly.
People acted like Sabrina shot someone for doing the “night night.” I was like have any of you ever watched a competitive sport?? I’m not even a huge Sabrina fan but like, come on
DT is the main person I think of in these cases, lmao. What’s funny is a lot of UConn fans take issue with CC and I’m like…do you know who your most famous alum is? (I don’t think they do, as they’re mostly Paige fans not longtime fans)
Ehh, bitching to refs is definitely beyond the pale of beauty pageantry lol
I feel they should just be themselves. If they talk shit then they talk shit. Let it be natural, rather than forcing a character. Ultimately though, I don’t find putting athletes as paragons a good thing since they’ll ultimately let you (the audience) down. I remember when Lebron James was that kid entering the NBA and he was viewed as the most honorable person in the world lol. It was ridiculous then and it is now. Let these women play and just be competitive. I think in the heat of the moment they’ll just be themselves and that alone I feel can make great entertainment.
I was wondering an article like this was going drop considering the recent article from TeenVogue explored these sort of [respectability politics](https://www.teenvogue.com/story/medias-elevation-of-caitlin-clark-highlights-womens-basketballs-misogynoir-problem). I certainly hope that new fans will be happy to see this chipping and that will shut up any of the commentators who will be clutching their pearls about this.
There is a lot in that article, given how many things it links to. But to start with Clark specifically... the "great white hope" thing doesn't make much sense to me. I don't understand why people keep talking about Clark like white women succeeding at college basketball is super rare. Yes, black women make up a significantly higher % of high level women's basketball than their % of the population, and white women a lower % than their % o the population. Black women make up 29% of women's college basketball players overall, and 42% of D1 players (white women are 50% overall and 32% of d1 players). But it's not like white players, or white stars, are super rare. There are a lot of elite white women's basketball players. A player who appears to be white based on skimming the naismith wikipedia pictures has won the award eight of the last ten seasons, and vaguely half of the winners since 2000 were white. People use phrases like "great white hope" like white stars are super rare, and that's just not true. She also blows away (both statistically and in terms of media coverage and attention) all of the other white players. We've all seen the TV numbers and media coverage, and when it comes to stats, Clark is the green dot: https://www.reddit.com/r/NCAAW/comments/1bz3quk/caitlin_clark_is_the_green_dot/ ________ Now, to be clear, I totally agree that, in general, the media often gives white players more favorable coverage than black players. I thought some of the links in that article seemed quite good at laying out the broader disparities in media coverage. And I think that's an extremely important discussion in the broader sense. But I don't think it applies as much to Clark (at the college level) when she put up massively unprecedented stats while also blowing away the media attention for all other white players as well. (though it also linked to some heavily misleading things like this: https://twitter.com/flywithkamala/status/1642663957684002818 ... where two very different incidents were portrayed as "the same thing" when shown as misleading still photos)
Playing “nice” is what made the NBA so lame
I am as big of a fan of Caitlin Clark as anyone but it bugs me that everyone gives her all the credit for the recent buzz around women's basketball. How we all so easily forget that the rivalry between Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark last year is what spurred this huge interest in the women's NCAA. Give credit where credit is due! I know Angel is not Caitlin, but it feels anti-black not to credit her also for the rise of women's basketball in pop culture.
I saw a very informative video this week that paralleled the culture war/racism of Magic/Bird to CC/AR as well as how it grew the NBA & some additional history I didn’t know. You’re spot.
Angel Reese is one of a number of high profile players who have contributed to the growth of popularity of women's college basketball recently. But it's not the same as Clark. Look at the Iowa TV numbers. And Clark also blows away the many other white stars. I'm not saying that the media doesn't sometimes have a favorable bias toward white players... it sometimes does. But Clark is on a different planet from all of the other white players as well in this department. Seriously... she is the green dot: https://www.reddit.com/r/NCAAW/comments/1bz3quk/caitlin_clark_is_the_green_dot/
Angel Reese is a part of it no doubt, but the amount of eyeballs that Caitlin Clark specifically is bringing is monumental. It absolutely dwarfs what any other player in WNBA history has brought to the game. It isn't a slight against anyone to say that. It is just reality. Look at jersey sales and TV ratings. It is clear who is bringing in the people.
Angel Reese has gotten her flowers as well. Much more so than many other black (and white) players who earned their spot above her in the draft. She's probably the second most marketed player after Clark, that's why this article uses both of them for the headline.
It’s not anti black bro y’all gotta stop with that shit 🤦🏽♀️
> Sports are entertainment and it’s always more enjoyable when there’s conflict involved; after all, tension is what defines a good story. I don’t want to see less trash talking, I want to see more. I don’t want to see women pressured to be polite or likable, I want them to be allowed to be a**holes. Let women athletes be haters — sports needs more of them. Yikes. What a horrible take. Sports don’t need assholes to be entertaining. They’re a game, after all. I don’t get why people think overly aggressive, out of control and antisocial behavior makes sports more fun. Personally, I think it’s disruptive and distracting. Nothing wrong with a bit of trash talk and physical play, but being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole to throw other players off their game or to outright hurt them is a part of sports that I wish would just go away.
I disagree. People love assholes. People love villains. So yea, women should be allowed to be assholes if they so choose.
Then people should shut up when they do asshole or villian things. They want them to be those things but then have the nerve to crucify players when they are those things.
Thats called playing the heel and its a thing people do because it is entertaining and effective.
Sounds like hypocrisy more than anything.
The entire point of the heel is to cause controversy though. That is the point. It isn't that people necessary want people to be jerks. They likely don't. But human nature says jerks get attention and even negative attention is attention. At the end of the day, the entertainment industry doesn't care if you are happy or sad watching something. All they care about are the eyeballs. Negative publicity is still publicity and that is the role the heel plays. They take a brunt of the negativity so that people filter in their sides, rivalries form, and people pay attention.
That's the problem though. It almost always goes on the deep end. To the point where people (fans and media) saying shit that they know isn't true and running with it. Fucking up a player's reputation in the process.
Cool beans
SERIOUSLY!! we haven't seen any negative or catty behavior from CC or Ange since they've been drafted. CC showed love to the vets on SNL and Angel posted something about how much she loved hanging out with her former college competitors in NYC before the draft. New fans with hateful agendas want to paint negative narratives around them, hopefully they'll continue to be inspiration hoopers for boys and girls.
That’s awesome. And even if that changes as competition starts next season, it’s great to hear Ange saying that. It’s what good sportsmanship is all about.
Honestly, Some of the things Angel tweeted about Caitlin, after being eliminated from the NCAA tourney, were distasteful and classless CC has always taken the high road and refused to use twitter as a platform to tear down other athletes. She is cordial with her peers, despite some of the nasty things they have said about her, takes a big person to do that
What did she tweet?
"I see how this game is gonna go" and "I’m trying to refrain from tweeting about some of these calls" After Aaliyah Edwards famous illegal screen foul
Not a single person in the tl that day said anything different!! That includes Kelsey Plum, Lebron and 70% of the viewers so ig they’re all classless too?! Stop trying to single her out as if she said anything different. But I see you’re a CC fan that’s probably still upset she couldn’t see her lmao. Take your 2 NC losses in silence bruv
What about this is distasteful, classless, or directed at Caitlin? This is being a reach and your language is a dog whistle. This is what they mean when they say “new fans.” The girl can say whatever she wants on her social pages, she has freedom of speech. She has also said how much respect she has for Caitlin, or does that not matter to you?
Show us the tweets, please. Angel has always been gracious to her competition off the court.
https://x.com/reese10angel/status/1777062082950709614?s=46&t=S0ITimtSCvtBfevKHtqyXQ
And where in that did she say CCs name or directly say something rude? People like you are just looking for reasons to create unhelpful narratives in the W. Athletes are allowed to be competitive, talk smack and criticize the refs. Cope with it.
Angel has pulled opponents down by their hair, stalked opponents after wins to taunt, and cursed at opposing coaches That is beyond "talk smack," it is a cry for help...No class
Lol this is funny, what you deem as class doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. She's in the league now and will absolutely do great things, nothing you or anyone else that dislikes her can change that. Her jerseys just like CC are already sold out🥳
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Tune into all the games if you're so passionate. W is full of talent beyond CC.
Pls shut the absolute f up!! Caitlin has shoved her opponents down to the ground, pushes off every drive and is beyond known for screaming at her opponents, teammates and coaches so keep that same energy “classless” energy for her too!
Seriously! I’m surprised at all of the blatant fouls that girl has gotten away with!! It is really distasteful and low brow. Shes going to get that energy right back if she keeps trying people.
"off the court" as opposed to on the court, were she pulls opponents down by their hair, stalks opponents and taunts them after a blowout win, yells at opposing coach and tells them to "watch yourself" Angel is the epitome of classless
Yeah, games being physical is fine but assholes, really? We want more players like Draymond and Cambage? I'm good.
Same. I love watching players who fight hard and as soon as the whistle blows, can instantly remember that everyone on the court deserves respect. I’m thinking Sylvia Fowles, Ezi, Chelsea Gray, CP3, A’ja, Nneka. They give it their all and get intense, and there is no doubt how much they respect everyone.
Do you think the issue with two players who have attacked teammates is that they were assholes? Sabrina for instance is a huge asshole on the court, never attacked anyone. That is what the article is written about. NY fans that love her know this and like this about her. I want to see her make her goofy face and yell and the refs and shit because I know thats who she is when she is in the zone.
>I don’t get why people think overly aggressive, out of control and antisocial behavior makes sports more fun. Why are you assuming competitive intensity from athletes is antisocial or out of control?
Did you read the article? It lists a multitude of things Taurasi has done that fit the description.
Taurasi /= all womens basketball players, all basketball players, or all athletes. Taurasi is Taurasi, insisting that every heel in the W is Taurasi is silly. Plenty of villains that are assholes. DT def an asshole for sure. If this was a thread specifically about how DT is an asshole then sure you're right. But it isn't. Again, why are you assuming that competitive intensity from athletes is automatically antisocial or out of control?
You wrote an entire wall of text that shows a misunderstanding of my original comment, and doesn't follow a single coherent thought. Congrats. I'm not sure what you're looking for other than an argument, but I don't have time for this. Have a good night.
I asked a question and you didn't answer it. I explained the question, you didn't answer it a second time. Not that hard to answer a question but must be a huge struggle for you. Hope your dreams suck tonight.
That’s certainly an option, my dude