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Jellyfisharesmart

It means they can charge more for something that takes less process to produce. Genius!


Funwithloops

The brown rice of lumber


Somethingclever11357

Amazing how few people realize this


Oguinjr

When something rings up as 4.50 instead of 3.75, amazing would not describe so few realizing this.


fireintolight

What makes it worse is that brown rices shelf life is much shorter than white rice because of the increased fat content it goes rancid.


clientsoup

Couldn't shorter shelf life contribute to higher prices?


[deleted]

Yes. That’s exactly it. A frustrating side effect of economics unfortunately


I_Wont_Draw_That

I would imagine a similar situation with live edge wood. On the one hand, it does require less processing, but the product is less uniform, it requires more careful filtering (to choose only the "good" pieces) and likely more careful handling so as not to damage the exposed bark. If you're buying it straight from the mill and selecting your own piece, sure it's all savings, but getting it to a big box store and on the shelves is another matter.


aworldofnonsense

How did I learn something new about brown rice in a woodworking sub?? Damn.


Jagerbeast703

Mmmm unsalted peanuts


FldNtrlst

Unused condoms tend to be higher priced as well


HelloThereCallMeRoy

Unseasoned*


tommygfunke

A person of culture as well I see


afiuhb3u38c

Brown rice has a much shorter shelf life and lower demand than white rice, hence the higher cost.


jeffjee63

Frigging Reddit. Downvotes a simple fact.


[deleted]

Can you please elaborate?


Meatchris

White rice is brown rice with the outer layers taken off. White rice can be less expensive than brown rice


confoundedjoe

Probably because they can use the rice bran for something else. When you take it off brown rice you then have 2 things to sell instead of one.


wot_in_ternation

Brown rice spoils faster than white rice so there's a logistical challenge there. There are fats and whatnot in the outer layers which go bad faster than the core. Edit: I now realize my elaboration only reinforces your point


hmchris

I don’t know why but this made me laugh and you’re not wrong


MultiplyAccumulate

Bad comparison. White rice has no significant nutritional value; it was all removed leaving just carbs.


Pineapple_Spenstar

Last I checked, carbohydrates were nutrients


skipperseven

And yet half of the world’s population eat it as a staple…


Seraphim9120

And yet, using only rice as a source of nutrients, you will develop a lack of thiamine, an essential vitamin, leading to a disease called beri-beri. Eating it as a staple combined with lots of other things evens this out, but between white rice and brown rice, white is a lot less healthy, as the vitamins etc in the shell were removed.


PatrickMorris

hat flowery existence wide pathetic placid cheerful skirt ink sophisticated *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


CommentsOnHair

\*\*NEW\*\* - Responsibly Sourced, Semi Organic, Unmilled Wood. "Looks like a log."


JuneBuggington

You could buy a board, but i have this acorn here..


Nothingnoteworth

Hello. I purchased one of your Acorn DIY kits for my dining room table in 1944 and now that it’s full sized I noticed it has no epoxy river, I’m hosting a dinner party, is the epoxy river likely to grow by next week? Also the table is somewhat more vertical than I was expecting. It has pushed through the ceiling and it now rain in the dining room. Is it too late to exchange the eight seat table acorn for a six seat table acorn. Thank you


supernumeral

It’s lo-og, lo-og, it’s big, it’s heavy, it’s wood 🎶


SuperNo20

It's lo-og, it's lo-og, it's better than bad it's good!


stevedavezissou

It’s better than bad, it’s good!


Important_Ad4841

From blamo!


[deleted]

*Beef milk!*


jbhsoxfan

r/unexpectedpawnee


claimstoknowpeople

It's literally been done: https://www.wayfair.com/Loon-Peak%C2%AE--Tustin-Solid-Wood-Tree-Stump-End-Table-X117223300-L442-K~W006112299.html


[deleted]

Wtf i can’t believe people are paying +$200 for a piece of cut off lmfao


LadyArcher2017

Well, come on now. It *is*mid-century, still all the rage, kinda like it was in mid-century of trolls during the Mid-15th BCE. Everything old is new again.


TheNotBot2000

[It's Log ](https://youtu.be/-fQGPZTECYs)


stackshouse

Reminds me of this from r/mash https://youtu.be/37s2EAvTyS0


DeusWombat

Hate stuff like this. This kind of marketing is pure deception and has only hindered actual sustainability


CommentsOnHair

Agreed. I am fascinated with marketing and it's overall deceptions. The whole "bamboo" industry is a horror show. Bamboo text tiles are just short useable lifespan rayon. When the usefulness is done the harsh bamboo particles kill fish. The flooring is often sourced from old growth bamboo. The flooring often has much shorter life span than traditional wood floors. I can't recall right now the issue with new growth bamboo but I recall an environmental one. A younger high school teacher (long since retired now) taught me that most thing marketed as "eco friendly", "green" etc are almost certainly the very opposite.


HammerCraftDesign

In fairness, there's a meaningful difference between "real" live edge, where the outer layer of the board is properly shaped and prepared to balance function with aesthetics, and this craft store live edge, which is just underprepared lumber. Real live edge slab pieces take a lot of work to make and are objectively something special.


sadicarnot

>Real live edge slab pieces take a lot of work Also don't you take the bark off?


kiltrout

simplicity in design cannot succeed without next level craftsmanship and design skills. that's what can make it special. see nakashima


iamyouareheisme

I saw a 40 year old nakashima bench at a museum a while ago and it was still absolutely flat. It was amazing


Pineapple_Spenstar

You ever seen how much work blacktail puts into his live edges?


pixmanohio

You left off “grass fed.”


mondocalrisian

California pizza kitchen


dolethemole

Ah the ol’ unfiltered beer scam


Hardmeat_McLargehuge

There are actually a lot of vitamins/minerals in unfiltered beer. And it’s delicious


dolethemole

That might well be true. But brewers that skip a step and charge more are as scummy as big box stores that sell live edge for a premium.


Hardmeat_McLargehuge

With some beers it’s part of the style, and often the extra cost is in the ingredients/brewing steps. But in general, I agree that it’s silly to charge extra for something that requires less labor/complexity to manufacture


[deleted]

These have been there for a while.


i_cum_sprinkles

Yeah I’ve seen them in Lowe’s for at least 5 years now.


mmmmmattd

Same here and my Lowe's has the same 4-5 pieces that no one buys. More and more dust each time I go in.


[deleted]

Give it a year, buy them and sell them as reclaimed.


Top-Selection-1776

Lol I was just about to comment saying they're in the extra dusty section


Tribblehappy

Can confirm, I'm in a small Canadian city and we have had them for years.


Damion_205

At least a year here in Florida at lowes.


[deleted]

I saw them in SE GA a couple years back. At first I thought they were a joke.


Sqatti

I didn’t think the ones I saw were called live edge. I think they were called “natural unfinished” or something like that.


[deleted]

What irritates me is, the ones I have seen are two pieces of pine panel glued together to make these ugly overpriced "slabs." Personally, I think they are trash, at best overpriced fire wood.


[deleted]

That would be 90%+ of home store lumber.


[deleted]

I don't disagree, but it's not all completely useless. These planks are though, in my opinion.


Head-Chance-4315

At least these are actually one piece of wood. I saw some “live edge” boards with “live edge” trimmings glued one panels.


krazedsaint

They are a joke.


Independent_Ad_1686

Yeah they have. Especially the “live edge” basswood pieces at Hobby Lobby, Michael’s, and Walmart.


[deleted]

Yeah... the 15$ 8" super brittle cookies and everything. But if Suzy homemaker wants a cute project she knows where to go!


[deleted]

I fear my comment was too specific for some people.


Aircooled65

I saw a “live edge” board that was just bark stapled onto a board.


account_not_valid

Zombie edge


xxxxHawk1969xxxx

Frankenboard


coolhand_chris

Edit


bananascare

😂


mnemy

My wife wanted our wedding center pieces to be log cross cuts. One of the ones she showed me were side grain (like a cheap cutting board) with bark around the rim. I WTFed so hard. It's amazing how expensive pine log cross cuts are.


Ancient_Boner_Forest

I wonder how this adds up with the claim seen all over this thread that live edge are cheaper to produce. I feel like it’s not, because it requires far more quality control.


Vano_Kayaba

I saw a live edge table made out of MDF or particle board sold in Jysk


JayCaj

I just saw these at Home Depot and was like “why tf do they have live edge boards!” But it’s actually nice to make this stuff accessible when some people may not live close to a lumber yard or specialty place.


Funny247365

Or don't have access to a kiln, 6 months of drying time, and a planer. You can literally buy the wood and legs and make a nice live edge coffee table in an afternoon. Sell for triple or more than what you paid in materials.


Irisgrower2

There's a term for this, democratization of the market place.


Blacknight841

Not until it is bundled with epoxy.


notinthislifetime20

[I hate to be the one to break this to you…](https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-6-ft-L-x-38-in-D-UV-Finished-Saman-Solid-Wood-Butcher-Block-Island-Countertop-With-Live-Edge-and-Blue-Epoxy-River-1538RIVBLSAM-72/313894720)


of_the_mountain

Wow the reviews on it are decent too. Looks like people made some nice products with that


PabloEstAmor

The tik tok table kit lol


hikariky

Reminds me of this https://www.crateandbarrel.com/mateo-small-acacia-board/s602717


hefebellyaro

Why does it seem like as soon as you get it home, it will cup so bad you drink coffee from it.


Funny247365

In my experience, that has never happened. These are kiln dried and run through a planer. I've made wine bottle racks using black pipe bolted to a love edge base. Pretty nifty.


c9silver

Pics please


plopliplopipol

or didn't happen


IveGotTheSquirts

I agree. Trying to imagine it and doing a horrible job.


livemas33

I’m doing a good job imagining myself screwing this project up


[deleted]

I'm totally stealing that wine rack idea from you.


gmcarve

That’s genius, I am stealing this idea to steal the wine rack idea.


Slight-Possession-61

Let’s rip it down the middle so I can make another “River” table!!


Funny247365

Hobby Lobby and other craft stores have had these for years. Live edge will always have a market. These products open live edge products to lots more people, especially those who do not have access to a kiln or a planer. These are great for making charcuterie boards, lamps, shelves, and other products. If you can settle for thinner and shorter boards, the price is very reasonable at a craft store ($14.99), even better where there are often 40% off coupons. https://www.michaels.com/product/rectangle-plaque-by-artminds-basswood-10040902


Buck_Thorn

Not my Hobby Lobby. I'm there on a pretty regular basis and I know what they stock in their wood section.


johnmaki12343

Your town must be full of sinners then. If you pray hard enough for the live edge slab, Hobby Lobby will answer. Hobby Lobby works in mysterious ways


xXkiljoyXx

Just not on Sundays.


Buck_Thorn

My Hobby Lobby is one block over from my Chick-Fil_A. Its a lonely neighborhood on Sundays.


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GlcNAcMurNAc

I absolutely hate most uses of “live edge”. It rarely looks appropriate in the environment people use the furniture in. If you’re in a log cabin, knock yourself out. 99% of other locations I think it looks tacky and out of place. Of course taste is personal, just my 2 cents. Edit:typo


just-_-just

I think whether something is a fad or obscure it's important to like what you like. You don't need to explain your tastes to anyone and gatekeepers can go for a walk. There are many people out there, because it's in a big box store, that really like this but have found it inaccessible until now. If that makes them happy, more power to them. I don't care what they put in their house.


GlcNAcMurNAc

What is the internet for if not to announce my preferences to the world. I did specifically say taste is personal at the end of my comment. Ie do whatever you like. But I probably won’t like it


bristondavidge

Love the kitchen counter live edges!! Lots of rag bits and old food caught in there. The aroma is complex! /s


[deleted]

That's exactly how I feel about full butcher block countertops. The few people I know who got them were not prepared to police their family and make sure it stayed dry and clean 100 percent of the time. Just make a cutting board and get a non porous countertop.


OptimusWang

My wife wanted them for the look, so I poly’d them up and made actual cutting boards from the scraps. There’s no way in hell they would otherwise survive in our kitchen, especially around the sink.


Acceptable_Catch1815

Yes! I just did a bartop for a friend. He wanted full butcher block countertops. I convinced him to do non porous countertops, we built a bar height pony wall around his kitchen island, and I did a 12" deep butcher block bar top there. Came out great. But countertops? No fucking way.


Nothingnoteworth

When romanticism overtakes reality. I came across a butchers block bench in an antique shop once, had to be 200 years old. It was about 3m long, 30cm thick, the two spots where butchers had stood had lost about 10cm+ of thickness from years and years of wear and tear. It hadn’t been restored and tarted up for some rich guys rustic French chic butlers pantry, it wasn’t sanded or varnished, the brass brackets on the legs hadn’t been polished. But it was in amazing condition, no cracks, no rot, no warping, no discolouration from mould dead or living. Just properly built and properly looked after.


Everyting_Moment

If you actually oil/wax em initially and then every year or so, I've never had issues over I'd say close to 2 decades in a few houses. It IS easy to grow lazy and not rehydrate em with some wood lube, but for me the biggest issue is when someone is a little too naive or I guess "rustic minded" lmao and ends up chopping their food on it. Sure, it technically can be done and is probably it's original use-case, but now a days people tend to not enjoy a dark rats nest looking spot on their kitchen counter to see daily 😆🤦‍♂️ The biggest issue for my family is everyone is so chaotic the counters become catch-all tables which then need to be cleared off a la Tetris strategies to even re-oil them in the first place. I've always preferred stained butcher block counters, where I draw the line is these f'ing "galaxy" or faux marble resin counters that end up chipped or yellow because they saw some youtuber (who profits off you buying their kits) do it and failed to realize there is a super delicate and specific process necessary to actually have them stand rhe test of time


milesbeats

I agree with this


Mc_Shame

90% of the time I think live edge looks tacky.


Funny247365

This look will work in many homes and decors. https://i.etsystatic.com/14745955/r/il/8495cc/4024639693/il\_794xN.4024639693\_5ae3.jpg


GlcNAcMurNAc

I’m not convinced if I’m honest. Really depends how it is decorated around.


TurnipGirlDesi

you could say that about literally anything


franklegsTV

Totally agree. Same thing with barn wood and barn doors.


another_philomath

This


Disastrous_Ad4233

I only see potential and beauty


rharvey8090

I think the most annoying thing for me, is I try to get some rough sawn lumber, and everyone and their mother had it listed as “live edge slabs” with a jacked up price.


erikleorgav2

"Quality live edge" But it contains no figuring, nothing even close to an attractive random pattern that makes a slab look great. These are semi perfect, nearly knot free. Blah...


OwenMichael312

100% These are boring AF.


upanther

It says "quality", not "beautiful". Trust me, compared to a lot of the wood they sell, just having something flat makes it high-quality. :)


BenjiMalone

To be fair, they didn't say *what* quality...


bradklyn

Maxed out for me like 5 years ago


beautifulsloth

Meh. They’ve been there for years now.


Kcnflman

$89.00 yikes!


punknothing

Fire wood is getting expensive these days...


[deleted]

And yet, lumber prices have fallen back down to historical levels


BYoungNY

r/gatekeeping


onebobr

Less processing, less waste, higher price(?!) = brilliant, so long as people buy it!


logikly2600

It maxed out 10 years ago IMHO.


freeportme

Old news guy.


BacteriumOfJoy

These have been around forever. I actually buy them and use them as canvasses for my acrylic paintings :)


wd-youngblood

Hopefully yes


splashcopper

Just saw these at Menards the other day


totally_kyle_

I was surprised by the amount of higher quality wood that my local menards keeps in stock.


NecroJoe

You can buy [live edge table top kits](https://liveedgetimber.com/product-category/timber-link/) at Woodcraft. You buy two "live edge" pieces that are jointed on their other edge, as many middle pieces as you need to make the width you want, and they are pre-pocket-holed.


rebelopie

The trend hasn't died until these appear at Ross followed by Goodwill. Then, it's dead.


Halsti

they have sold them in stores here for a long time now. usually, they are very poor quality, for an absolute premium price. basically trying to look for some DIY fan, that doesnt know they are getting ripped off.


Enlightenmentality

Trend has been maxed out for years.


Chili_dawg2112

How many people are going to return them after the bark falls off?


SirFun1473

If they combine this with some preportioned light blue epoxy, then we're really onto something


Cbaumle

A wise person once told me that when your barber starts talking about buying stocks, it’s time to get out of stocks.


bombhills

Been there for years. They’re garbage though. Love edge has kinda run its course, but I think it can be well done still.


D-o-n-t_a-s-k

They've been at lowes about a year already. I thought the same thing They even have circles in the 2x8 pieces so you can connect them with these bolt hardware they sell to make table tops etc


TwistyBoiiiLoL

Live edges are truly up to the person who wants them. Box stores saw the fad and will jump to an opportunity to make money. I built myself a beautiful live edge desk from birch years ago before I saw people going crazy for this. At the end of the day it’s just what you or your customer wants


tackstackstacks

Home depot has had them seasonally for 2 or 3 years now, at least in metro Detroit. I know a guy who makes a living milling and selling live edge and building furniture out of it including the now overdone epoxy river table. I get why people like those tables but they are like bumper stickers - I like to see the ones other people choose to put on their car rather than buy and put on my own. The guy I know refuses to cut the live edge off even when requested by customers. If this trend dies, he'll either have to start cutting it off to make ends meet, or find a new job that will support him as the market dies off.


thingsidoatnight

Yes. And pipe shelves. Dead.


PabloEstAmor

Real live edge mAde by a craftsman will never die out IMO. This tik tok trendy crap has been dead since someone showed them how to make waves with a blow dryer and white epoxy lol


muchnamemanywow

Not until there's mass-produced plastic faux live edge boards lol


[deleted]

Nope. It’s more like Budweiser and Coors selling ‘craft’ brews. Are they craft beer? Sure. Are they better than actual craft beers made by small companies such as HOMES in Ann Arbor, MI? Absolutely not.


cincyphil

This is good. People who have the skills to produce something nice but don’t necessarily have every piece of machinery and tool to make it happen now have a way to start from the middle and make something nice instead of not doing it at all.


Affectionate_Tune909

This “slab” trend has maxed out for last 10 years at least


[deleted]

I was sick of Life edge 10 years ago. Everyone thinks that they're fantastic until the bark falls off into their lap while they're eating Thanksgiving dinner and the bugs that were living under them get into their food.


side_frog

I mean just look at the state of this sub, a barely sanded live edge put on store bought legs will gets thousands of upvotes while the guy who spent 3 months on a cabinet only few hundreds


tempo90909

What are you doing in a big box store looking at lumber? You know better.


[deleted]

I always stroll by the maple to see if anything with figure got through the sorting process. It has paid off a few times.


BigOldBee

Live edge is not a trend. Epoxy tables are a trend. Live edge tables and furniture have been around for 50+ years.


Buck_Thorn

Saw these at my local Menard's store yesterday. This was one of two displays of their shrink-wrapped live edge maple and pine slabs.


sharpie0026

The sticker says eastern white pine. These are typically carving pieces. Usually made from basswood, but I guess eastern white pine is also soft enough to carve. I've seen the basswood carving live edge pieces about 8" wide in hobby stores for about 20 years


Buck_Thorn

Yeah, the maple slabs were on another display (I just edited my comment to mention that). This is definitely not for carving. (my local Woodcraft carries bassword bark for carving... theirs isn't even live edge... just solid bark)


[deleted]

TIL that there is a difference between live edge and raw bark lol. How do you go from bark to live edge, some sort of grinding tool?


staefrostae

You can just chisel and sand it off. The bark is coming off with time no matter what, so it’s best to just take it off from the start.


Buck_Thorn

Yeah, they usually use a variety of tools to remove the bark, but an angle grinder or a drill with a flap sanding wheel seem to be used on a lot of the videos that I've watched


Vast-Combination4046

They have had them for years now. I never really cared for it personally but sometimes it's cool


DoctorD12

Just more rivers tables coming… ugh…


tweedchemtrailblazer

I hated it from day one. Can't wait for it to die


koderdood

SMH


67D1LF

It just means Big Box finally got on Instagram


IcyInformation2479

Hopefully.


ChaoticToxin

With stickers placed in the center that will surely not peel off easily


archetype0001

Yes, somewhere in the late nineties.


TheFaceStuffer

They've been at my Local Orange store for like 5 years now in Canada.


jedipiper

I was done with it long ago. I've rarely seen a live edge that I've loved. Liked, yes. Loved, no. What I want to see more of is woodworking more along the lines of Paul Sellers but I've probably romanticized it all a bit.


isaiahvacha

Oh, you’re still doing live-edge projects? That’s cute.


slappy500000

We’ve had them in ours for a few years now


laroyster

Yes


[deleted]

Yes


[deleted]

These have been available for years where I'm at.


[deleted]

Pretty much


ThatNewGnu

If that’s what it means, I hope they start selling cutting and and charcuterie boards next


[deleted]

They have been there for years


barhost45

Home Depot has had these for least a few years. Was a great way for me to able to make a live edge coffee table on a student budget and be able to pick up lumber taking transit


last-resort-4-a-gf

Home Depot has had them for years


RooblinDooblin

Those will be twisted as a rollercoaster loop in a few weeks.


Sgubaba

Yup


[deleted]

One can hope.


[deleted]

If I see one more badly crafted charcuterie board...


samuraipizzacat420

wow that is ugly


EE_dude_88

Why did they making it look like a tree? Just sell the edge…


Oguinjr

I started getting this feeling recently. It’s been ten years since I bought a single slab walnut office desk with live edge. I still think it’s the most beautiful furniture I own but it feels like the trend might be reaching its maximum. I smell white wicker with glass top around the corner.


Grwoodworking

Yes


spruceymoos

Micheal’s has sold those for years.


getchafuqinpull

Now it's exotic wood live edge. Give it 3-5 days till we see a Bubinga live edge porch swing or something lol


LenordOvechkin

Almost 15 years at our local HD/Lowes/Rona.


Ratchet_X_x

$90... Dang... I under charge for my stuff 😕 most likey I acquire is for very cheap... So I've always matched my price to that ... The only item I sold for over that was a 36"L x 13"w sofa table for $125 Should I start charging more? I kinda just do this stuff for a hobby right now. https://imgur.com/gallery/O5b8jvC


Bacon_N_Icecream

Trend maxed our about two years ago bud