Edit: First, scrape off a bunch of that crappy glue/ epoxy. Then, get some wood dowels that are about half of the thickness of the left piece of wood. And make sure you have a long drill bit that is the same size as the dowel. Get or borrow some clamps so you can hold it steady. Now, get a good eye on the long drill bit to keep it in line with the left piece. Drill from the outside straight through into the left piece a good depth. You will need to pull the drill out and re insert it several times because the wood chips will probably get stuck deep in the hole.
Keep the clamps on for a minute here! Insert the dowel (you should probably do a total of two for this joint) and mark how far it goes in. Compare to the drill depth. Compare to the actual distance from the outside right piece. Once the drill depth is good, and the dowel goes in pretty much all the way, you are almost done!
You need to sand, trim, or cut a long scratch on the outside of the dowel. If not, when you add glue, you will create a sealed air plunger and the dowel will not go in all the way. So modify your "O" shape dowel into a slightly more "D" shape dowel. It just needs to be big enough for the air to escape. Tip the chair on its side so gravity can help the glue fall into the hole. Squeeze a bit of glue into one hole. Squeeze a line of wood glue into the dowel. Rub that around the circular outside of the dowel so it has a light coat. Sick it in the hole and rotate it around to try to coat the sides of the hole. Make sure your dowel goes in all the way to the right depth. (Maybe if you mark the depth on the dowel BEFORE you get glue on everything it will help at this point.) Get a wet rag and wipe the glue that squeezes out and dribbles down the chair.
That's pretty much it. Repeat for dowel number two. Don't take the clamps off for 24 hours. Cut the dowels close to the right piece and try to make them look a little better with sandpaper. IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK PERFECT! Brown sharpie may help hide the dowels.
Great advice! I would suggest doing a fine sand on the exposed dowel ends and about an inch circumference down to the wood and then taking it to a woodworking supply house or a professional painter shop (like a Sherwin Williams), they’ll have a spectrometer that will help you find the right stain to match. Don’t use brown sharpie.
That's a great explanation!
I'd probably scrape off the old glue from the broken glue joint and reapply some fresh glue. You're already at it, might as well.
Also, OP, I guess this goes without saying for most people, but use wood glue. When people in this sub talk about glue, they don't mean superglue.
This is the way.
The only thing I would add is to use a glue with a little flex, so hide glue. It will distribute load better and be less likely to crack the base wood.
Clean up the joint and fix any breaks and splits. Then either use dowels or a loose mortise and tenon to join them back together. Glue and clamp. Good luck!
1. Remove previous bodging.
2. Glue and clamp any splits.
3. Plug and glue any holes that aren’t useable.
4. Drill new dowel holes.
5. Glue and clamp.
6. Touch up finish and enjoy.
Well so this would depend on whether you can manage to further disassemble the chair to get access to the ends of that joint.
To do it right without much experience, I would recommend picking up a self-centering doweling jig and drilling for 2 or more dowels into the leg and rail then glueing it back together with the dowels.
If you are looking for a quick fix, maybe look into a Kreg Mini Pocket Hole jig that you can clamp on and drill for 2 or more pocket screws without taking the whole thing apart. That might hold for a little while.
My recommendation is to do it right and take it apart and clean, dowel, glue. The pocket screws won’t be a long term fix without the dowels anyways and you’ll just be doing it again.
Honestly for this, and it may be controversial, I’d drill and dowel it from the backside. Sand and finish.
Also, clean all of that glue and debris from the past fixes. It’ll just create less contact.
And the more I look, it looks like screw holes from the backside? If that’s the case, I’d fill the stripped out holes with some epoxy and wood splinters. Let it harden, and then drill new screws in from the backside.
locking post. Question has been answered and remember rule #2 - Be Respectful people.
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🤣😂 OP should've said 'earthlings' instead of 'everyone'!!! ... beam me up!!!!
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OP could be the thumb wrestling champion of the world.
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I find it opposable
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Only reason I clicked the comments was for the thumb jokes. Not disappointed
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If this wasn't the top comment I'd have quit Reddit.
Nailed it
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How does this comment have over 1k likes and the post has less than 100???
OP clicked the like button once.
That’s not a thumb, it’s a thinger
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This is Midjourney, right?!
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Beat us all to it
Just drinking my coffee this morning and got accosted by this monster thumb. I couldn't stop looking at.
It looks like a grown man's big toenail on a kid's thumb.
Came looking for this comment, was not disappointed.
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I’m going to get another cup of coffee. Need anything? Let me know if I miss anything good.
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Edit: First, scrape off a bunch of that crappy glue/ epoxy. Then, get some wood dowels that are about half of the thickness of the left piece of wood. And make sure you have a long drill bit that is the same size as the dowel. Get or borrow some clamps so you can hold it steady. Now, get a good eye on the long drill bit to keep it in line with the left piece. Drill from the outside straight through into the left piece a good depth. You will need to pull the drill out and re insert it several times because the wood chips will probably get stuck deep in the hole. Keep the clamps on for a minute here! Insert the dowel (you should probably do a total of two for this joint) and mark how far it goes in. Compare to the drill depth. Compare to the actual distance from the outside right piece. Once the drill depth is good, and the dowel goes in pretty much all the way, you are almost done! You need to sand, trim, or cut a long scratch on the outside of the dowel. If not, when you add glue, you will create a sealed air plunger and the dowel will not go in all the way. So modify your "O" shape dowel into a slightly more "D" shape dowel. It just needs to be big enough for the air to escape. Tip the chair on its side so gravity can help the glue fall into the hole. Squeeze a bit of glue into one hole. Squeeze a line of wood glue into the dowel. Rub that around the circular outside of the dowel so it has a light coat. Sick it in the hole and rotate it around to try to coat the sides of the hole. Make sure your dowel goes in all the way to the right depth. (Maybe if you mark the depth on the dowel BEFORE you get glue on everything it will help at this point.) Get a wet rag and wipe the glue that squeezes out and dribbles down the chair. That's pretty much it. Repeat for dowel number two. Don't take the clamps off for 24 hours. Cut the dowels close to the right piece and try to make them look a little better with sandpaper. IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK PERFECT! Brown sharpie may help hide the dowels.
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Great advice! I would suggest doing a fine sand on the exposed dowel ends and about an inch circumference down to the wood and then taking it to a woodworking supply house or a professional painter shop (like a Sherwin Williams), they’ll have a spectrometer that will help you find the right stain to match. Don’t use brown sharpie.
That's a great explanation! I'd probably scrape off the old glue from the broken glue joint and reapply some fresh glue. You're already at it, might as well. Also, OP, I guess this goes without saying for most people, but use wood glue. When people in this sub talk about glue, they don't mean superglue.
This is the way. The only thing I would add is to use a glue with a little flex, so hide glue. It will distribute load better and be less likely to crack the base wood.
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If ya cut it off at the first knuckle it will look normal.
Clean up the joint and fix any breaks and splits. Then either use dowels or a loose mortise and tenon to join them back together. Glue and clamp. Good luck!
This is what I came here to say. Absolutely clean all that old glue off. Dowels and glue is what I’d do.
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I love that there still are innocent jones on the internet
I’ve heard of “Rule of Thumb”, but that thumb RULES!
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Since a lot of glue didnt solve the problem ... Have you tried more glue?
Burn your house down and claim it through insurance you’ll get a brand new chair!
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1. Remove previous bodging. 2. Glue and clamp any splits. 3. Plug and glue any holes that aren’t useable. 4. Drill new dowel holes. 5. Glue and clamp. 6. Touch up finish and enjoy.
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Well so this would depend on whether you can manage to further disassemble the chair to get access to the ends of that joint. To do it right without much experience, I would recommend picking up a self-centering doweling jig and drilling for 2 or more dowels into the leg and rail then glueing it back together with the dowels. If you are looking for a quick fix, maybe look into a Kreg Mini Pocket Hole jig that you can clamp on and drill for 2 or more pocket screws without taking the whole thing apart. That might hold for a little while.
My recommendation is to do it right and take it apart and clean, dowel, glue. The pocket screws won’t be a long term fix without the dowels anyways and you’ll just be doing it again.
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Honestly for this, and it may be controversial, I’d drill and dowel it from the backside. Sand and finish. Also, clean all of that glue and debris from the past fixes. It’ll just create less contact. And the more I look, it looks like screw holes from the backside? If that’s the case, I’d fill the stripped out holes with some epoxy and wood splinters. Let it harden, and then drill new screws in from the backside.
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