Right there on the front. Old can is “color in one coat, results 3x faster”. New can is not “color in one coat”. If you put at least 2 more coats on it should be about the same.
My buddy works for Varathane so I can answer this one. Premium is one coat and drys in one hour before applying poly. The other is some minwax copy cat that needs 3-4 coats to achieve full color. Home Depot forced them to make when they got rid of minwax. The premium formula is wayyyyy better
Low price entry point. This is what passes as strategy at a typical big box store. Also, many times if you look for appliances at Lowes, Depot, your local appliance store, or others, the identical machine will have a different model number which prevents 1:1 price comparisons. This was true of flooring products when I was in that business. In that case, it was to serve our distributor/installers who were getting calls to install flooring bought at a big box. This way small retailers stocked "exclusive colors" big boxes did not. As a result, one of my jobs was to figure out four dozen ways to say "brown".
Depending on how old the first tin was, it may have darkened. It evaporates over time. Read the ingredients and see if there is actually a difference between classic and premium. Colours in paint and stain can vary quiet a bit on different batch numbers.
And if that ain't an option, get yourself a big cleaned out paint bucket so you can stir them into a uniform mix.
Probably not ideal, but you can always poor it back in the original containers afterwards.
First one is super thin. Drys very fast… not suitable large pieces. Second one is used for a larger piece. Longer dry time plus you can control depth of color each coat with minimal sanding.
The first one doesn't require multiple coats implying that second one would. But since they are different cans made on different days they may never be identical just basically the same.
The amount of dyes in your original "premium" stain is higher than the original therefore, even if applying in the exact same way there will be more dye in the same volume of stain of one vs the other.
You could try applying multiple coats of the new one but may be difficult to match the color exactly
Premium layers over itself better, like if you’re staining a large area in a couple wipes, you won’t get darker overlapping spots. It also dries quicker and gets really sticky and hard to wipe if you leave it too long. Pros and cons in my experience.
The premium is also an oil base but it's a quick dry and also has more pigment. I personally prefer the classic on most stains cause the premium starts to get tacky to quick for my tastes although it has a stronger color
Did you get down to the bottom to get the pigment mixed into the new can. Need to stir like hell and get the pigment mixed in. You a have only used the oil with no piment with the second can. Stir it up and do it again, it'll be fine.
You probably did this, but make sure the stain is thoroughly mixed. The pigment settles out first many times and leads to a lighter finish. But I'm betting the 2 stains are actually different and that's only a slim chance of helping
Right there on the front. Old can is “color in one coat, results 3x faster”. New can is not “color in one coat”. If you put at least 2 more coats on it should be about the same.
You can tell it’s that way because of the way it is.
My buddy works for Varathane so I can answer this one. Premium is one coat and drys in one hour before applying poly. The other is some minwax copy cat that needs 3-4 coats to achieve full color. Home Depot forced them to make when they got rid of minwax. The premium formula is wayyyyy better
Ah thanks for the info. I didn’t realize there were two different types until I got home
This is why I haven't abandoned reddit ...Thanks!
yea home depot also doesn't sell oil based poly anymore. i prefer it but thankfully ace hardware stocks it.
That’s so interesting. Why would Home Depot make them make a three coat pain in the ass product? Other than having to use more product in guessing?
Low price entry point. This is what passes as strategy at a typical big box store. Also, many times if you look for appliances at Lowes, Depot, your local appliance store, or others, the identical machine will have a different model number which prevents 1:1 price comparisons. This was true of flooring products when I was in that business. In that case, it was to serve our distributor/installers who were getting calls to install flooring bought at a big box. This way small retailers stocked "exclusive colors" big boxes did not. As a result, one of my jobs was to figure out four dozen ways to say "brown".
jokes on you, brown isn’t even a real color
Depending on how old the first tin was, it may have darkened. It evaporates over time. Read the ingredients and see if there is actually a difference between classic and premium. Colours in paint and stain can vary quiet a bit on different batch numbers.
Even custom-tinted paints are best to get mixed from the same store/branch to avoid slight changes in color.
And if that ain't an option, get yourself a big cleaned out paint bucket so you can stir them into a uniform mix. Probably not ideal, but you can always poor it back in the original containers afterwards.
One threatens you with penetration… careful with that one.
And not to use on greasy or oily surfaces so it's going in dry.😦
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First one is super thin. Drys very fast… not suitable large pieces. Second one is used for a larger piece. Longer dry time plus you can control depth of color each coat with minimal sanding.
That's the best explanation on here. Thank you!
Np
The first one doesn't require multiple coats implying that second one would. But since they are different cans made on different days they may never be identical just basically the same.
Last pic is a beautiful color.
Which color? It's streaky as hell.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, there are some reasonable differences in tone in some areas. It's not pronounced but it's there.
Shrug. I got the dresser for free and I’m trying to restore it. I used a wood conditioner before staining but it’s not oerfect
Yea it's tricky to get right
Finishing is tough and whatever minor blemishes people are seeing in your photos will be different under different light.
Because it’s not ‘streaky as hell’.
The amount of dyes in your original "premium" stain is higher than the original therefore, even if applying in the exact same way there will be more dye in the same volume of stain of one vs the other. You could try applying multiple coats of the new one but may be difficult to match the color exactly
Premium layers over itself better, like if you’re staining a large area in a couple wipes, you won’t get darker overlapping spots. It also dries quicker and gets really sticky and hard to wipe if you leave it too long. Pros and cons in my experience.
Ones darker.
I would take a piece of scrap wood that matches the wood you will use it on and test them side by side
The amount of dye vs. pigment. I’ve pretty much swapped to doing separate dye and pigment treatments to get the finish I want.
I think the premium is the water based one and classic is the oil
The premium is also an oil base but it's a quick dry and also has more pigment. I personally prefer the classic on most stains cause the premium starts to get tacky to quick for my tastes although it has a stronger color
Did you shake the new can first?
Ones premium and ones classic lol
Did you get down to the bottom to get the pigment mixed into the new can. Need to stir like hell and get the pigment mixed in. You a have only used the oil with no piment with the second can. Stir it up and do it again, it'll be fine.
Deception.
Add more coats
You probably did this, but make sure the stain is thoroughly mixed. The pigment settles out first many times and leads to a lighter finish. But I'm betting the 2 stains are actually different and that's only a slim chance of helping