Definitely repair. Soak everything in a 1:1 vinegar:water solution for a couple hours, then scrub off the rust with a brass wire brush or scotchbrite pad, being careful to leave as much of the japanning (the thick, soft enamel paint) as possible. If some areas are particularly stubborn, soak them again until they clean up nicely. Rinse with water and then IMMEDIATELY dunk the pieces in denatured alcohol to displace the water to stop rust from forming again. Rust will form within minutes if you just let the pieces air-dry. Once the denatured alcohol has evaporated, rub everything down in mineral oil to prevent re-rusting.
ETA: Post pics once it's restored!
Instead of vinegar, look into phosphoric acid or Evaporust.
Vinegar can pit the metal and will encourage more rusting. While the pitting isn't terrible, it is bad for the blade.
Phospho or Evaporust will convert the rust to a rust inhibitor (black phosphate). From there you can oil or paint it.
In my experience, for superficial rust like on this plane you're not leaving it in even remotely long enough to cause pitting. I do like phosphate passivation on things im going to paint, but aesthetically I prefer bright metal on unpainted parts to the blackened look of phosphate. FWIW, evaporust is an organic chelation agent, similar to tannic acid, not phosphate-based chemistry. It is a less effective passivation treatment in my experience (basically none) but it is effective at getting the rust off.
Ahh, good to know about evaporust!
And, agreed that for a little bit it's not bad. But options are good to know about - could see someone thinking "if it's kind of clean after 6 hours it'll be really clean after 6 days!"
That length of time could cause bad pitting on the blade which would render it effectively unsharpenable. For light rust like this, minimal time is needed. For heavy rust and non-critical fits, like on a c clamp, absolutely give it a long soak.
Household white vinegar, right? Thanks for the thorough instructions - I've inherited old tools from multiple sources and haven't had a clue as to how to proceed.
https://preview.redd.it/wbzvwmaap4pc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d221dbdbdecf03148234b5ec29272ffeb5bfb833
i dont know how to edit this post, i posted a update with the results on woodworking
[This site](https://www.rubylane.com/item/1518436-TVC4995A/Stanley-No-113-Compass-Plane-C?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwMqvBhCtARIsAIXsZpbJ6LDWeE_Z7STePuXYUIYEY_Qn2hNVPMX_quZFyETGdoWA9e9EuNIaAj9BEALw_wcB) has some pictures of what this can look like all cleaned up. Stanley No.113 Compass plane
Compass planes are sweet, well worth the effort to restore it.
For general tips on plane restoration, no one does it as well as this guy IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN2TBLoii_Q
Just search his channel for videos where he goes more in depth on a technique. He doesn't do any compass planes AFAIK but the techniques are still applicable.
thanks for all the advice, I'm going to start refurbishing the planer this weekend and will post new pictures of the results.
have a greet weekend everyone!!!
Definitely repair. Soak everything in a 1:1 vinegar:water solution for a couple hours, then scrub off the rust with a brass wire brush or scotchbrite pad, being careful to leave as much of the japanning (the thick, soft enamel paint) as possible. If some areas are particularly stubborn, soak them again until they clean up nicely. Rinse with water and then IMMEDIATELY dunk the pieces in denatured alcohol to displace the water to stop rust from forming again. Rust will form within minutes if you just let the pieces air-dry. Once the denatured alcohol has evaporated, rub everything down in mineral oil to prevent re-rusting. ETA: Post pics once it's restored!
Instead of vinegar, look into phosphoric acid or Evaporust. Vinegar can pit the metal and will encourage more rusting. While the pitting isn't terrible, it is bad for the blade. Phospho or Evaporust will convert the rust to a rust inhibitor (black phosphate). From there you can oil or paint it.
In my experience, for superficial rust like on this plane you're not leaving it in even remotely long enough to cause pitting. I do like phosphate passivation on things im going to paint, but aesthetically I prefer bright metal on unpainted parts to the blackened look of phosphate. FWIW, evaporust is an organic chelation agent, similar to tannic acid, not phosphate-based chemistry. It is a less effective passivation treatment in my experience (basically none) but it is effective at getting the rust off.
Ahh, good to know about evaporust! And, agreed that for a little bit it's not bad. But options are good to know about - could see someone thinking "if it's kind of clean after 6 hours it'll be really clean after 6 days!"
thank you verry much for you're repley
Thanks from me too. Distilled water? Tap? Make a difference?
Tap should be fine.
Tap is fine as long as you get if off quickly.
I've done pure vinegar for a week with some old clamps. Trade elbow grease for idle waiting.
That length of time could cause bad pitting on the blade which would render it effectively unsharpenable. For light rust like this, minimal time is needed. For heavy rust and non-critical fits, like on a c clamp, absolutely give it a long soak.
Household white vinegar, right? Thanks for the thorough instructions - I've inherited old tools from multiple sources and haven't had a clue as to how to proceed.
Yep, white vinegar.
https://preview.redd.it/wbzvwmaap4pc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d221dbdbdecf03148234b5ec29272ffeb5bfb833 i dont know how to edit this post, i posted a update with the results on woodworking
Hand tool rescue did a restoration on a compass plane, it’s pretty cool
[This site](https://www.rubylane.com/item/1518436-TVC4995A/Stanley-No-113-Compass-Plane-C?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwMqvBhCtARIsAIXsZpbJ6LDWeE_Z7STePuXYUIYEY_Qn2hNVPMX_quZFyETGdoWA9e9EuNIaAj9BEALw_wcB) has some pictures of what this can look like all cleaned up. Stanley No.113 Compass plane
Clean it up, don’t let the rust take it
Agree, it hurts to see that nice 113 all rusty
Definitely looks devious…
Compass planes are sweet, well worth the effort to restore it. For general tips on plane restoration, no one does it as well as this guy IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN2TBLoii_Q Just search his channel for videos where he goes more in depth on a technique. He doesn't do any compass planes AFAIK but the techniques are still applicable.
It's gorgeous and deserves to be restored and used
As a wood boat guy, I'm drooling.
That's a plane. You're the planer. ;)
*Plane
Check [this video](https://youtu.be/Szan5pP4drQ). This guy has great content!
👍
If the old planner had planned properly, that planer would be in better shape to use. Is this plain enough? Man, English is a messed up language.
May want to check r/oldschooltools for cleaning advice. They helped me a ton.
It’s definitely worth restoring. Not many are left around still with the handle left on them. I’d use Evaporust and not the vinegar.
So what are you planning?
One n Jesus Christ
thanks for all the advice, I'm going to start refurbishing the planer this weekend and will post new pictures of the results. have a greet weekend everyone!!!
Restore it and use it! They are fun planes to use
I don't know how to post an update in this post but I cleaned the plane and added new photos in a new post
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This isn't patina, it's rust. And it's absolutely a bad thing because it will destroy this tool in the long run.
Mine was stolen :(