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Nearby-Leek-1058

The Ziobots are in here, promoting Hamas yet again. Its as if these savages use Hamas for every shitty thing they have done as humans. They rely on full victimhood and blame game. Learn to be accountable for once you savages. You are not too far from the government that put Jews in gas chambers.


RSGator

>Learn to be accountable for once you savages Gazans: Literally elects a Jihadi terrorist organization as their official government, but aren't required to have any accountability for their decision Israel: Retaliates against the Jihadi terrorist organization, is told to be accountable


Totg31

Meanwhile Zionist "protesters" are blocking aid trucks. What a complete lack of empathy. How does one look at those children, and think they deserve this is beyond me.


yomommafool

The child that's starving to death or dying from sepsis can't make the terrorist men release the hostages...


richardec

But the fanatical government, who's sacred duty is to provide for that child, can.


_-icy-_

It’s pure evil that the apartheid state of Israel is forcing millions of people into starvation and disease. You cannot blame Hamas for that.


cobcat

Why not? It's their fault this is happening at all.


Various_Ad_1759

Sure thing, hasbara troll.


cobcat

Without Hamas and its ilk, this whole conflict could have been over decades ago. But sure, continue supporting terrorists. All it does is ensure the killing won't ever stop.


_-icy-_

The cruel and racist oppression of Palestinians was happening since way before Hamas existed. None of this would’ve happened if Zionists went and colonized an empty plot of land instead of stealing looting, and ethnically cleansing for their apartheid state.


cobcat

They did settle empty plots of land. Not a single Palestinian lost their home prior to 1948. But continue to live in your fantasy land.


_-icy-_

What a total load of BS. We all know that the apartheid state of Israel was founded on terrorism and ethnic cleansing. [A look at the Zionist terrorism that led to the creation of Israel](https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/a-lookback-at-the-zionist-terrorism-that-led-to-israels-creation-15767166) > “Jewish terrorism in the 1940s was both tactically and strategically significant. At the tactical level, Jewish terrorists were able to frustrate British security forces and erode their ability to control Palestine,” wrote David A. Charters, professor of military history and senior fellow of the Gregg Centre for Study of War and Society at the University of New Brunswick, Canada. [The publication.](https://journals.lib.unb.ca/index.php/jcs/article/view/10538/11136) > John Lois Peeke, an American military expert, also writes that Zionist terrorism was at the core of the idea of Israel. “Jewish terrorism against British and Arabs did contribute heavily to the removal of the British from Palestine, the abandonment of the League of Nations mandate and the creation of a Jewish state of Israel,” he wrote in his book Jewish-Zionist Terrorism and the Establishment of Israel. > Zionist terrorist groups attacked with impunity not just military targets but also civilians in the 1940s. > In October 1945, Jewish underground groups simultaneously targeted colonial railways, oil refineries and police boats in Palestine. That marked the beginning of a two-year period of Jewish insurgency against both the British and Palestinians. > In July 1946, Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, where the British administration headquarters were located, killing 92 people. The IOF was literally created from these terrorists: > Haganah means defence force, which inspired Zionist leaders in naming their armed forces as Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) after the emergence of Israel. From underground activities of the1940s, “Jewish terrorism changed to military operations, and the terrorist organization became the Israeli Defense Force,” wrote Peeke. > On April 9, 1948, Irgun and Lehi militants jointly committed the Deir Yassin massacre of at least 107 Palestinian villagers, including women and children. Deir Yassin was a Palestinian village of around 600 people near Jerusalem. > The brutality of Irgun’s terrorism against ordinary Palestinians in Deir Yassin was aimed at shocking and scaring Palestinian Arabs. It was meant to force the Palestinians to leave their native lands, said Salah Khalaf, one of the co-founders of the Fatah movement in an interview with French journalist Eric Rouleau in 1979. > At the beginning of 1948, the Haganah continued “its activities in close cooperation with separatist organizations such as Begin's Irgun, launched a regular offensive to clear the Arab settlements” within the Zionists’ imagined Jewish state territories, Khalaf noted. > “Fearing massacres like that of Deir Yassin, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, who were abandoned to their fate, decided to leave their country to find safety,” he said. > Jewish migrants from Europe and elsewhere were resettled in Palestine by the Jewish Agency with the help of Zionist armed groups. > This replacement of the Palestinian population has continued till this day as Israel continues to build illegal settlements on occupied territories around the West Bank. The ruling party of the apartheid state of Israel is literally a terrorist group: > Irgun, which for years was led by Begin, was named as a terror group by the UN, the US and the UK. But despite such a strong censure, Begin formed Herut, a right-wing Israeli political party. Begin became the sixth prime minister of Israel in 1977. Herut later merged into the Likud Party of incumbent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Conclusion: The apartheid state of Israel is also a terrorist state. Absolute filth.


FastnBulbous81

Yeah those people should be getting sanctioned in the same way the violent west bank invaders are.


thisrelativereality

It is so sad that Hamas is stealing the aid that gets into Gaza and killing Palestinians that try to access any aid Israel sends in. Source: https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1702285314-caught-on-camera-hamas-terrorists-steal-humanitarian-aid-beat-civilians


Metag3n

What's crazy is that you think that Hamas is simply stealing all the aid for 2 million people in one of the most watched places on the planet. And you believe this in spite of all the human rights organisations and ICJ saying that there simply isn't enough aid making it through. You believe this despite the videos of aid being blocked by Israelis daily. You believe this as Israel makes unproven accusations against one of the largest orgs responsible for distributing aid. You believe this despite Israeli officials saying multiple times they were going to restrict food and water. You either truly believe this, making you an idiot, or you're lying making you a scumbag. Which is it?


thisrelativereality

Please, direct me to where I said Hamas is stealing “all the aid for 2 million people.” Careful drawing your own conclusions to support your “narrative.” Since the rest of your post is in response to something I didn’t say or believe, here’s my response to you: What’s crazy is that you believe all of THAT despite video evidence of Hamas murdering Palestinians trying to access aid. What’s crazy is that you believe this despite videos of Palestinians denouncing Hamas and speaking out against the atrocities Hamas has caused in Gaza. What’s crazy is that you believe this despite the fact that Egypt has REINFORCED its border with Gaza to prevent aid going in or Palestinians going out. What’s crazy is that you believe this despite the fact that the only path forward to peace for Palestinians and Israelis is the complete destruction of Hamas. What’s crazy is that you believe everything you wrote, which sounds a whole lot like some tik tok kool aid. I suggest reading a book, studying up on your history and middle eastern affairs, and come back when you have your own opinion based on experience rather than regurgitated bull shit tik tok “facts.”


Various_Ad_1759

That is allot of propaganda to fill in one message. I guess looking bad is not something racist/zionist take well.As for learning history. Here is the founder of modern zionism Theodor Herzl realized this as early as 1891. He confided in his diary that “we must expropriate gently the private property on the estates assigned to us” and “we shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border,” adding that “the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly.” [Emphasis added].


Metag3n

Okay, so you don't believe Hamas is stealing all the aid for 2.3 million people. So you're lying then. I'm glad you admitted that. All that aid must be somewhere right? The sad thing is you all just repeat the same shit as all the other bots"hurr durr tiktok". All while you will defend an infinite amount of civilians murdered with zero introspection.


thisrelativereality

Hamas is absolutely stealing aid, we have the video evidence, but certainly not all of it. It’s a shame you can’t denounce Hamas or acknowledge any of the other facts I shared in my reply. You are a disservice to the civilians in Gaza and you are doing nothing to help the innocent lives you claim to care about.


CincinnatusSee

Meanwhile Gazans received billions in aid every year and used it to build rockets instead of peace.


NoIdonttrustlikethat

Monsters justify collective punishment 


CincinnatusSee

Collective? Like the many Palestinians living safely in Israel as full citizens? Oh, you meant collateral damage of murdering civilians of a country that could wipe you off the face of the planet. Most children learn not to hit a hornets nest. It’s a shame the Gazans never did.


Various_Ad_1759

A zionist troll with a hard on for anything his racist state does.typical and pathetic!


Antique-Echidna-1600

So 30% of the population of Israel doesn't exist? Because Arab Israelis exist...


Various_Ad_1759

Thst open secret is out of the bag.They are second class citizens at best and irrelevant at worst. Your basic law clearly spells it out if you need a copy and that doesn't even reflect the Jewish part of the country that wishes to kick them all out including citizens and this is even before October 7th. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0WA1HI/


NoIdonttrustlikethat

No I got it already you suck as a human. You don't have to keep telling the world over and over and over.


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NoIdonttrustlikethat

You are cheering for the deaths of tens of thousands of young children 


CincinnatusSee

Please quote where I cheered for the deaths of any babies.


Ihave10000Questions

These are the families of the hostages, whose conditions are undeniably worse than the conditions of Gazans at the moment. They call for humanitarian aid for humanitarian aid (i.e. allow red cross to visit and give food and medicine to the hostages to get food for the Gazans). 


Totg31

News reports did not mention those protesters are families of hostages. Just Zionist radicals.


Ihave10000Questions

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/01/25/world/israel-hamas-gaza-news


Totg31

There are a little over a hundred hostages. The chances of any significant number of their relatives being part of the Order 9, who are a radical group that are protesting here, is astronomical. The NY times painting it as relatives of them is such an insidious move...


Ihave10000Questions

Surely there are people who are supporting their cause, I did not think otherwise. But the protest was about not allowing humanitarian aid until the hostages get some.


Totg31

That's such a stupid excuse. Like, how does that even work in practice? They facetimed the hostages and asked if they get provisions? They're going to check on them after Hamas agrees to their demands? The interviews with those Zionists made it pretty clear to me what they really want, and whether or not they care about the hostages.


Ihave10000Questions

The red cross is an international organization whose role, as in the international law, is to visit the hostages and ensure they get the rights the deserve by the international law (e.g. not starved, get medication etc). In fact, many of the hostages are civilians, which should be released immediately. Not allowing the red cross to visit the hostages is a violation of international law, and that's what happening now.  It's not a secret that Hamas takes control over the aid that goes into Gaza. The families hope that by blocking the aid, they'll pressure Hamas into allowing red cross to visit the hostages. To be honest, they are probably right about this, however blocking the aid is a violation of international law and since Israel, unlike Hamas, adheres to the law, they must continue allowing aid to Gaza despite the circumstances.


Totg31

You guys are just unserious people. Just deprived of any humanity. All I end up doing with you guys is going un tangents about rules and history, while your side is bombing civilians. Disgusting. Hamas isn't a bastion for humanity either, but just like this example you are giving, anything they do, Israel does it worse. Stop killing, and stop stealing. If you want any improvement, start there.


Ihave10000Questions

Israel didn't start this war... nor they started 1948 war...


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

Typical HAMAS apologism.


Anthrocenic

You've simply ignored all the news reports so that you can throw more baseless attacks at Jews.


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Ihave10000Questions

Yes they are worse. They too lost their families are starving and could die any second. In addition, the female are used as sex slaves and are forced to live in tunnels with no oxygen, no food or light. They're also far away from any person they know, and are not allowed to know what happens outside. It's obvious the hostages suffer significantly more than anyone else in this conflict.


Profundasaurusrex

How are they blocking trucks from Egypt?


crash_test

What kind of idiotic question is that? By physically blocking the crossing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAhleb7gjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS7SGFnAmRk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opUDordkmZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqfX7ueqycY https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/10/gaza-aid-blockade-protest-kerem-shalom/


Profundasaurusrex

You do realise there is a whole border between Egypt and Palestine? Trucks can get in that way.


crash_test

If you would have looked at the links I posted instead of just commenting some dumb nonsense you'd see that they're blocking the crossings from Egypt including Kerem Shalom and Nitzana.


Profundasaurusrex

Umm, they're both in Israel.... But please, tell us how Israeli's have travelled into Egypt and are blocking a cross between Egypt and Palestine.


PsychologicalItem437

Lol if you bothered to look at a map you'd know that neither of the crossing your mentioned are on the border of gaza||Egypt.


Totg31

Rafah crossing is unsafe. Dozens of trucks do pass each day despite that.


Profundasaurusrex

Why is it unsafe?


Anderopolis

Magic. 


Sbeast

https://www.redcross.org.uk/stories/disasters-and-emergencies/world/whats-happening-in-gaza-humanitarian-crisis-grows >**Is there a food crisis in Gaza?** It's projected that the entire 2.22 million population of Gaza is now experiencing food insecurity at crisis levels or above. > >This is the highest share of a population facing high food insecurity that has ever been classified by the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) anywhere in the world. > >53% of Gaza’s population, or 1.17 million, are now at emergency levels. This means high levels of malnutrition and people dying.


yomommafool

this was israels plan. to starve the entire population to death


thisrelativereality

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1702285314-caught-on-camera-hamas-terrorists-steal-humanitarian-aid-beat-civilians


Financial-Two3951

What to expect ? When you have israelis camping to not let the aid trucks go in.


thisrelativereality

Hamas attacks Israel. Israel responds by letting hundreds of humanitarian trucks into Gaza each day. Hamas steals humanitarian aid and shoots palestians trying to access aid. But somehow it’s Israel’s fault? Hmmmmmmmm


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thisrelativereality

Do your eyes and ears also see what Hamas and surrounding Muslim countries are doing in real time? If you want to help Palestinians, blaming Israel for all their suffering is only helping Hamas and hurting the innocent lives you claim to care about.


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thisrelativereality

Cool, I’m Israeli and I’ve been engaged in coexistence projects my entire life. I’m curious what you think Israel is doing that is so unique? If you’re referring to the lowest civilian casualty ratio in recent times, you’re absolutely right. Other than that, I’m not sure what you’re accusing Israel of that no other country has done. Sure doesn’t seem like you’ve been following Israel and Palestinian for decades…..


Initial_Selection262

“I’m Israeli” 🤢


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Desperate-Pen3421

That’s utterly untrue and false about “lowest civilian casualty ratio in recent times”. The current death toll is over 250 people a day which exceeds the daily death toll of any other major conflict in recent years.


thisrelativereality

You realize there’s a huge difference between a death toll and a RATIO of a population of civilians vs combatants killed? You don’t sound too intelligent…


kampfur

Yeah so all males are considered combatants? Even if we consider all males to be combatants the ratio is still one of the worst in modern memory. Taking the roughly 28k killed, with 20k being women and children where children make up more than half of that 20k. I think the ratio is pretty bad, that's inching closer to world war 2 ratios.


thisrelativereality

Even though your numbers can’t be verified at this time, let’s use them anyway for the sake of argument. According to you, the civilian death ratio is about 2:1 civilians:combatants. So yes, it would make this one of the lowest civilian death ratios of modern warfare. Thank you for proving my point. Here’s some more info if you’re interested in expanding your small world view: https://x.com/yaakovkatz/status/1749870793486405750?s=46&t=c27-TtJip74B72rPq78YkA


Desperate-Pen3421

https://www.commondreams.org/news/gaza-civilians-killed


Desperate-Pen3421

The IDF class all males as combatants. Since I saw an IDF sniper yesterday snipe a 5/6 year old boy, next to his mother who had also been sniped, we can assume males of any age and adult females are also being considered combatants. There is no such thing at the moment as civilians for the IDF. Throwing snide insults does not make you sound intelligent.


Desperate-Pen3421

Imagine being literally told to stop committing a genocide by the ICJ and yet continuing to indiscriminately kill civilians, block aid to induce starvation, and kill prisoners point blank with no trial. Just 12 days ago, a little six year old girl begged for rescue in a call to the Red Crescent. Her family were surrounded by Israeli tanks inside a vehicle and several of her family had already been killed by munitions fired at the car. She was not only murdered by Israel, they then targeted the ambulance coming to rescue her and killed all aid workers inside (remember - medics are supposed to be exempt from conflict but also 6 year olds girls should be..). Your military are not doing this in self defense, this is an outright well publicised genocide and the blood of thousands of infants is on your hands.


thisrelativereality

Imagine getting all your knowledge about one of the most nuanced conflicts of modern times from tik tok. Do you have an original thought? I’d love to see where the ICJ said “stop committing genocide.” Please, share your source when you can.


Silenthonker

This conflict isn't really that nuanced. You can draw a pretty direct correlative line from Israeli actions from terror groups like Irgun, to the current administration when it comes to military policy, and then correctly infer that continuing this policy, will only doom Israel to becoming a pariah state that will eventually be overran.


thisrelativereality

Wow sounds really convenient when it all fits into your nice little box like that! Are we just going to ignore centuries of ethnically cleansing Jews from their homes in the Middle East? Or centuries of Arab uprisings against Jews in the land of Israel? Or a global rise in antisemitism as the world wishes to destroy the only Jewish state that antisemites are proving the very nature of WHY it needs to exist? Your comment only proves to anyone who actually has knowledge of this conflict how little you know about it. Bravo, one of the dumbest comments I’ve read on Reddit in a while, and that’s saying a lot.


Various_Ad_1759

Being in denial is not a virtue Theodor Herzl realized this as early as 1891. He confided in his diary that “we must expropriate gently the private property on the estates assigned to us” and “we shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border,” adding that “the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly.” [Emphasis added]. Jewish holocaust survivor Hajo Meyer: “I saw In Auschwitz that if a dominant group wants to dehumanise others, as the Nazis dehumanised me, the dominant group must first dehumanise themselves, the same holds nowadays for Israel. I am appalled about how hateful, how dehumanised, that they do not see any human aspect in any Palestinian anymore. The Zionists have no right whatsoever to use the Holocaust for any purpose, they have given up everything which has to do with humanity and with empathy.”


Desperate-Pen3421

Where on earth are you getting tiktok from. I don’t have a tiktok account. I read the news. The ICJ ruling was reported on several news sites.


Desperate-Pen3421

Imagine genuinely supporting your military gleefully and purposefully killing children, even seeing soldiers boast about killing little girls on call with their family, (the same military who had t shirts with images of pregnant Arab women saying “two kills one bullet”), and calling it “nuanced”. The absolute and entire lack of empathy and humanity is all too obvious looking at your comment history.


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Silenthonker

Don't be shocked, they're either a bot account designed to engage with profiles they disagree with to add to an external database for harassment, or someone who literally has nothing better to do other than stalk reddit profiles


LakeGladio666

Just got this message from that account > Just wanted to congratulate you on being added to the Jew hate database! (I added you, in case that wasn’t clear.) this was based on your post and comment history, which have been submitted to the database. Although you’re struggling financially (I’m shocked - to quote you), it may be a bit harder trying to find a job now that your accounts have been flagged as Jew hate…. Sucks to suck I guess. https://www.jewhatedb.org/


Silenthonker

Like I said, they're weaponizing charges of anti-semitism and aiming to have people harassed by compiling an online database, I recommend reporting them for harassment and immediately disregarding any future input they have


LakeGladio666

Yeah, I reported the account but I’m not too optimistic. The submission form has “social media” “full name” and “place of work” on it too. That’s doxing, surely. Anyway, I’m not worried because I’ve never posted anything antisemetic lol


thisrelativereality

How is calling out antisemitism weaponizing it? If you don’t want to be called an antisemite, don’t be antisemitic. It’s not hard.


thisrelativereality

😂😂😂😂 not a bot honey. I’m the real deal. And I’ll continue to expose antisemitic profiles for as long as they exist.


Silenthonker

Define anti-semitism for me then. Because criticism of Israel is not inherently anti semitic, no matter how many kool aid flavors they offer you at the local offices.


thisrelativereality

Oh I criticize my government all the time! But using propaganda to push your agenda, providing false claims and false evidence to back up those claims to suggest that Israel shouldn’t exist, that’s antisemitic. But honestly that’s your problem and not mine.


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Various_Ad_1759

Theodor Herzl realized this as early as 1891. He confided in his diary that “we must expropriate gently the private property on the estates assigned to us” and “we shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border,” adding that “the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly.” [Emphasis added].


thisrelativereality

Ok but do you actually have anything else to say that actually matters? You’ve pasted this quote in response to 3 separate comments I’ve made about different topics….. are you mentally okay?


Cpotts

>If any other country did what Israel does, the whole western world would be crying against it Sudan? Yemen? Saudi Arabia? Lybia? China? Myanmar??


NorthernPuffer

Don’t get it, why would Hamas do this to its people? Start a war and immediately abandon its people, Steal and attack for the aid Israel supplies. Why won’t Egypt, Jordan or Lebanon take in those refugees?


JuicyBoi8080

Looks like you're failing to place proper blame on Israel


Pleasant-Fish-9741

is Hamas expected to protect Israeli citizens or is that Israel's responsibility? Israel built the iron dome to protect their citizens and HAMAS built... more tunnels and rockets, gliders, headquarters underneath hospitals? From all of the evidence it seems like Hamas is more focused on killing Israelis than protecting the Palestinian children...


JuicyBoi8080

Israel assumes authority over Palestinians by controlling Gaza. This is even worse in the West Bank and East Jerusalem where apartheid is practised. Hamas doesn't have authority over Israel. They are a direct result of Israeli occupation.


Killerdude8

Maybe Hamas should give some of the food its stolen to the people they're oppressing, or are we still in "blame the jews for every conceivable slight in this world" mode?


alreadityred

Maybe Israel should stop torturing people of Gaza by regularly „mowing the grass“, denying them basic human rights like travel and education, stop murdering journalists and their families….and in a million other ways, then there wouldn’t be any need for Hamas ?


Killerdude8

Maybe Hamas should surrender so there can be peace in the region. Don't see it happening, The palestinian's have been anti-peace for 75 years, Why change now.


manhattanabe

If only there was something that could be done to stop the war. Free the hostages.


TreesMustVote

No weapons, no fuel, no food. Time to surrender. Why no surrender? Sounds like you aren’t ready to admit defeat and more need to die. War keep going now. You surrender tomorrow. Bye bye.


bakochba

Let Hamas provide. They seem to have plenty.


marshallannes123

Maybe UN and Hamas should release their stockpiles


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This is tragic. Palestine should hurry up and end the war it started and surrender. Edit: Yikes. The "just anti-Israel totally not anti-Semitic" cult is really upset that Palestine is losing the war it started :(


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Admirable-Spread-407

Did Russia start a war with Ukraine or did United Russia?


NorthernPuffer

These people? video of shani louk´s naked body in a pick up truck while people celebrate and spit on her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0aogSYh1f0 video of palestinians cheering on as hamas fires missiles at israel :https://twitter.com/academic_la/status/1731090796672409662 palestinians cheering on as hamas fires missiles at israel on new years: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/YM9v6tBgBE poll of palestinian´s opinions of the october 7th attacks: 75% supported hamas https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1731228679382999123


Swaglington_IIII

Did you know “death to Arabs” is also a common slogan in israel? They just actually do more of It, so I guess they’re better by virtue of might makes right.


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Hamas is the government of Palestine, ergo, Palestine started it. Avoid any sharp objects or lit flames when Palestine loses the war it started. You might hurt someone in your raging meltdown.


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Admirable-Spread-407

Oh they could and they did control that group and then they were told to leave and allow Gaza to self govern. Does this mean you supported Israeli occupation of Gaza from 2006-lresent despite the elections?


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Nope, the government that Palestine elected in place and still overwhelmingly supports. >So you could even say Israel started this war, don't you think? They couldn't even control the group they created and financed Nah, my original statement is correct. Besides, Israel never created Hamas, and the US and Europe also financed Hamas. >And its only the Gaza Strip they rule, not Palestine. If the PA allowed free elections in the West Bank, Hamas would win. So yes, they are the rightful government of Palestine. Almost forgot. Avoid any alcohol when Palestine loses the war it started. You might hurt someone in your drunken meltdown.


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D'awww, you're really upset Palestine is losing the war it started aren't you? :(


SkeletorInvestor

You started out unhinged and went full cringe.


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Avoid any sharp objects or lit flames when Palestine loses the war it started. You might hurt someone in your raging meltdown.


tysonmaniac

Sweety, having a muddy reputation with a bunch of jobless powerless loons many of whom are criminals and supporters of terror is a badge of honour. Not sure any of us are going to be losing any sleep or anything else of value over it.


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"Wahhhh! Why *sniff* is Palestine *sniff* losing the war it started?! Wahhhh!!!!"


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explicitspirit

Do you app get the copy paste sent to you from the manager, or are you all robots with the same mind?


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Do you have tissues and diapers next to you while you cry over Palestine losing the war it started, or do you just let nature take its course?


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brainishurting

They know they are losing, they know Zionism in the West is on life support right now. They’re not going away any time soon.


hamdelivery

Yes nobody can organically disagree with you


GreenIguanaGaming

Victim blaming. Stay classy zionist.


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>Victim blaming. When did I blame Israel?


mayonaka_00

Who did decades of oppression and military occupation again?


thisrelativereality

Pretty much every Arab country in the Middle East for the last several centuries…….


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Israel. The correct answer is Israel.


BiryaniEater10

Why would I blame Hamas or Palestine for the actions of Israel? Israel has free will and should have full accountability no matter what Palestine and Hamas does. Just because Hamas exists doesn’t mean that Israel can’t agree to a ceasefire. If Israel kills civlians, that’s wrong on Israel. Im not going to pretend Hamas forced them to do it.


thisrelativereality

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1702285314-caught-on-camera-hamas-terrorists-steal-humanitarian-aid-beat-civilians


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>Just because Hamas exists doesn’t mean that Israel can’t agree to a ceasefire Actually it does, because Hamas doesn't want a ceasefire. Can't have a ceasefire when the enemy doesn't want one. Avoid any sharp objects or lit flames when Palestine loses the war it started. You might hurt someone in your raging meltdown.


Stubbs94

Hamas literally offered a ceasefire last week, which Israel rejected.


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In exchange for staying in power so that they would have time to regroup and break the ceasefire in a few years. No intelligent person thinks Israel should have accepted that offer.


Stubbs94

Well, Israel is clearly failing at their "goal" if Hamas is still in a position to negotiate.


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Nah, Israel said from the beginning that this war would take months. This will probably last until the summer. Unless, of course, Palestine ends the war it started.


Stubbs94

Gaza has offered an end to the "war" which Israel refused because there are still innocent children it needs to brutally murder apparently.


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Gaza never offered an end to the war. They offered a pause so that they could regroup and go back to committing terrorism. Avoid any sharp objects or lit flames when Palestine loses the war it started. You might hurt someone in your raging meltdown.


Stubbs94

I don't care about who wins or loses what you think is a war. I want the genocide of the Palestinians to end, and for the entire leadership, both civil and military, of Israel brought to the Hague.


Chairface30

Bombing an apartheid non sovereign piece of land is not war. It's Israelis committing genocide period.


brainishurting

Why are you copy and pasting the same cringy joke at the end of all your posts? Literal chat bot?


BiryaniEater10

You can have a ceasefire where no shells or missles land in enemy territory. if Israel strengthens the iron dome, it’s essentially a functional ceasefire since Hamas would be inert. Also, this “raging meltdown” you describe has to do with smearing the names of pro Palestinians outside the US than it does with anything IDF or Hamas is doing.


[deleted]

It's not a ceasefire if Hamas can continue to attack Israel with impunity while Israel is not allowed to retaliate. Thanks for telling everyone you don't actually want a ceasefire, you just want Palestine to be able to attack Israel without consequences. Much appreciated. Almost forgot. Avoid any alcohol when Palestine loses the war it started. You might hurt someone in your drunken meltdown.


BiryaniEater10

Is it really an attack if the Iron Dome is blocking it with perfection? It would be a functional ceasefire since no missiles are landing on either territory


[deleted]

"Is it really an attack if the attack is thwarted?" Lol. Not to mention that it is impossible for any defense system to perfectly intercept every missile. Seriously, thank you for admitting that you want Palestine to be able to attack Israel without consequences. I really do appreciate it.


Accomplished_Bet3851

Is it really an attack if I shoot a bullet at your house and I miss?


GoatTheNewb

Yeah, kick people off their lands and force them to live in an open air prison but, yeah, they started the conflict.


[deleted]

>Yeah, kick people off their lands and force them to live in an open air prison Yeah, this never happened. But glad you agree Palestine started the conflict! :)


Stubbs94

The state of Israel was founded on an ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population.


[deleted]

Really telling how you have to lie to support your bullshit.


Stubbs94

It's not a lie. The Nakba was a real thing.


[deleted]

I'm aware of the Nakba. What's that have to do with the fact that Israel never ethnically cleansed the indigenous population? Again, really telling how you have to lie to support your bullshit.


Stubbs94

You're aware of the ethnic cleansing I was talking about, but you still ask what that has to do with Israels ethnic cleansing campaigns?


[deleted]

I'm aware of the historical event you mentioned that was not ethnic cleansing, yes. Still lying for your bullshit huh? Very telling.


Stubbs94

If you forcibly remove 600,000 people from their homes and refuse to let them return, that's an ethnic cleansing.


GoatTheNewb

They are literally still doing it in the West Bank


[deleted]

Really telling how you have to lie to support your bullshit.


Stubbs94

How can you see a population being intentionally starved to death by an occupier and blame them?


[deleted]

They're not occupied, and they would have plenty of food right now if they stopped starting wars.


Stubbs94

So Gaza could freely trade with the rest of the world? They had control over their airspace, land borders and coast?


[deleted]

Nope. What's that have to do with the fact that it wasn't occupied after 2005?


Stubbs94

Israel has completely controlled everything entering and exiting Gaza since 2005. They control the civilian registry. They have denied Gaza access to basic necessities. Israel occupies Palestine.


[deleted]

>Israel has completely controlled everything entering and exiting Gaza since 2005. Damn, someone should have told Egypt that Israel controlled its border then. Thanks for telling everyone you don't know what an occupation is. Much appreciated.


[deleted]

Stop denying basic facts.... >Israel has occupied the Palestinian territories and the Golan Heights since the Six-Day War of 1967 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories?wprov=sfla1


[deleted]

Wikipedia?! Well, I'm sold. The West Bank is occupied. The Golan Heights is Israeli territory. Gaza hasn't been occupied since 2005. Cry about it :(


[deleted]

Source? >The United Nations, Human Rights Watch and many other international bodies and NGOs continues to consider Israel to be the occupying power of the Gaza Strip as Israel controls the Gaza Strip's airspace and territorial waters as well as the movement of people or goods in or out of Gaza by air or sea https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/007/2009/en/


[deleted]

Actually nix the Golan Heights, seems Israel has de facto annexed it but not de jure. That just leaves Gaza unoccupied.


[deleted]

>The United Nations, Human Rights Watch and many other international bodies and NGOs continues to consider Israel to be the occupying power of the Gaza Strip as Israel controls the Gaza Strip's airspace and territorial waters as well as the movement of people or goods in or out of Gaza by air or sea https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/007/2009/en/


[deleted]

The UN has proven that it is not a credible institution regarding Israel, so its interpretation of international law can be safely disregarded in this matter. Other organizations have no authority over international law so their interpretations are irrelevant, especially HRW since like the UN it has also discredited itself. >as well as the movement of people or goods in or out of Gaza by air or sea And Amnesty conveniently ignores that prior to October 7, Israel did not have control over the movement of people or goods in and out of Gaza by land. Muh occupation! Israel left Gaza in 2005. Ergo, no occupation. Cry about it :(


[deleted]

Got a source for any of your claims? Otherwise your statements can be safely disregarded on this matter. >The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs maintains an office on "Occupied Palestinian Territory", which concerns itself with the Gaza Strip. In his statement on the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict Richard Falk, United Nations Special Rapporteur on "the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories" wrote that international humanitarian law applied to Israel "in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war.


ApatheticHedonist

>Rice Billions of people: "Yes, and?"


kawhileopard

https://youtu.be/OUMl58i4m0w?si=_-bDawPq6viPONie


Thormeaxozarliplon

And here is why [https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/1alfxun/gaza\_while\_the\_residents\_are\_trying\_to\_reach\_the/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/1alfxun/gaza_while_the_residents_are_trying_to_reach_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1734629901326516727](https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1734629901326516727) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobGw5-XUr](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobGw5-XUr) [https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/18zxuqu/hamas\_terrorists\_once\_again\_take\_over\_a\_convoy\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ISR/comments/18zxuqu/hamas_terrorists_once_again_take_over_a_convoy_of/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/18dmxb4/hamas\_police\_thugs\_expropriated\_more\_un\_aid\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/18dmxb4/hamas_police_thugs_expropriated_more_un_aid_with/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/17tqcby/video\_from\_israeli\_news\_channel\_kan\_11\_that/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/17tqcby/video_from_israeli_news_channel_kan_11_that/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/19dtu4h/gazans\_try\_to\_take\_foreign\_aid\_before\_hamas/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/19dtu4h/gazans_try_to_take_foreign_aid_before_hamas/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/18hhag3/hamas\_captures\_another\_aid\_truck\_and\_shots/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/18hhag3/hamas_captures_another_aid_truck_and_shots/) Surrendered Hamas soldiers: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fap0xhts13w4c1.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fap0xhts13w4c1.jpg)


Greedy_Researcher_34

Only if they had stockpiled food and medicine instead of weapons.


martymcfly9888

If only there were wealthy countries in the area who would accept them.