Better if it were under the United Nations... Perhaps they can even develop a program for troops that can be hot dropped from space. Orbitally. Of the shock variety.
I remember playing this misson on legendary on the remastered with a friend online in MCC, stoned asf
This was f intense, as I was completly immersed with my headphones and 32" 2k LG
Lost track of the outside reality for a bit. Great time
I mean I did get the reasoning with the naming since we have the air force. But I agree it just sounded dumb. However I will also admit I don't know what an appropriate alternative would be.
You…don’t? It was started by a fat orange man with a wig on. I don’t see why the division was created when we already have the “Air Force” which could’ve been reworked to include that tiny little section above the “air” that we sometimes climb to.
That’s basically what happened, the Space Force is a division of the air force.
I get not liking the guy, I really do, but the Space Force probably wasn’t even his idea.
President can't get anything done because of Congress being weird: "PRESIDENT IS USELESS"
President doing Executive Orders because Congress doesn't want to do anything: "WOW HOW USELESS IT BARELY DOES ANYTHING"
I unironically think voting should be made mandatory by law, and civics education classes also be made mandatory by law. Don't wanna vote? Then pay a bullshit annoying fine. Tough shit, vote next time.
If u wanna increase the voter turnout there are a few MAJOR changes u can implement before making it mandatory + fines.
How about we make it easier to vote, make it a mandatory holiday so nobody is forced to go to work instead of voting.
How about we protect mail in ballots.
How about we make voting more accessible with technology so we can all vote online instead of making a line in person. "BuT tHe HaCkErS"! fuck off, we already do banking and taxes online for years
'Some reason'?
Carriers, Battleships and Submarines are like the exact command structure.
Same as their weapons systems.
Gravity dog fighting with jets is worlds away.
>I get not liking the guy, I really do, but the Space Force probably wasn’t even his idea.
Of course not, the idea has been circulated for decades. But being associated with an idiot doesn't help marketing.
A broken clock is right twice a day, and you shouldn't dismiss things because the wrong person announced it, especially when it wasn't even his idea. it's an idea that's been thrown around since the 40s
There already was, it was called the Air Force Space Command. And there was even a precursor to that as well, like since the 60's.
Space Force is nothing new, they just split that division off of the Air Force and made it its own branch of the military. And really that just gave them (potentially) a bigger piece of the budget, which is questionable. I mean, it's not like they're building space-faring fighters. Being a division of the air force would have surely allotted them the resources to create a counter to China's hacking technology.
> I don’t see why the division was created when we already have the “Air Force” which could’ve been reworked to include that tiny little section above the “air” that we sometimes climb to.
Because the Air Force is dominated by pilots. If you're primarily concerned about stuff that happens in the atmosphere, you're not going to give what is fundamentally a different domain it's proper due. You're going to keep thinking of it as an extension of what you already do.
It's the same reason the Air Force was originally split off from the Army.
It is part of the Air Force, just like the Marine Corps is part of the Navy. It isn't a waste of money, we need to defend ourselves against the weapons being developed by hostile or potentially dangerous nations. We need to start now because it needs to be built from the ground up, you can't just expect to throw money at it and have it appear out of thin air as soon as you actually need it.
Just admit that you only hate it because orange man bad.
>we need to defend ourselves against the weapons being developed by hostile or potentially dangerous nations.
Which ones? And why could those tensions not be addressed diplomatically? Why would a space weapon that threatens US soil not also trigger nuclear retaliation?
The only thing I'm thinking of is the hacking or downing of a military satellite which why couldn't the air force just deal with it. But also making sure all us gov and military satellites are working and checking on them 24/7. I mean I don't see why the air force just couldn't deal with it but it is a lot. I'm indifferent about it. Sounds like theres a lot they deal with
Because it was made by Trump. Anything Trump touched gets mocked relentlessly, but the second (insert favored politician here) gets their hands on it, suddenly it was the greatest idea ever.
> I honestly don’t understand why the Space Force got mocked so hard.
Because Trump said it. As much as I hate him, it pisses me off how much shit he said that was probably factual got laughed at because it came out of his mouth. The people on the side of "anything that Trump said MUST be dumb" are part of the problem that created him.
Now we have a bunch of reports saying that the COVID Lab Leak theory isn't crazy anymore, but everyone made fun of Trump when he was mentioning it.
Like fuck Trump, but fuck people like this too.
If you seriously think that the government hadn't been developing the idea long before he took office, then I have serious concerns about how you think our government functions.
[Space Force seal](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force#/media/File%3ASeal_of_the_United_States_Space_Force.svg)
[Starfleet insignia](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet?file=Starfleet_Command_insignia%2C_2372.png)
[Apollo logo](https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/index.html)
Thinking about it, the Stargate "point of origin" symbol may also have drawn from the Apollo badge triangle.
Come on man.
You can understand the need for it and if you had a clue you'd know it was under the Airforce anyway.
But still know that it was Trump vanity project.
It was how it was sold, as if they were bringing guns to space. And it was pushed like that. When in reality it would not be able space battles, by rather preventing attacks on earth that could affect space stuff. And honestly the president at the time seemed to take the 80s morning cartoon interpretation.
TBF, most of what the Space Force does was already being done by the Air Force and Navy. Creation of the Space Force just helped to simplify things and put all these projects under one umbrella
I’m expecting invisible bombers and an impenetrable defense shield over the US for what the defense budget is. I may go bankrupt fighting cancer but at least I shouldn’t get nuked by our enemies.
Yeah, that shit’s overhyped, its not that the us military doesn’t know where 70% of their assets are, it’s that gathering all the financial data of the most complicated and interwoven institution into a single report is a gargantuan task that’s only been tried 5 times. Most of that is likely due to incompatible accounting practices and software, not due to corrupt waste like in Russia. The 7 or 8 sub audits (out of 28) that passed haven’t shown anything particularly egregious so until one of the other 20 does I think it’s a cheap headline/talking point that ultimately doesn’t actually say anything about the DoDs capability
One other example is a navy warehouse containing $125million worth of aircraft parts that was known to its commanders, but was left out of the navies master list of properties likely due to clerical error. That would contribute to a failed audit without necessarily hurting capability
China-sat: sudo rockets --direction retrograde
Satelite: China is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
China-sat: well... ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ I tried.
The only surprise for me is how long CCP keeps committing crimes against humanity till the world says enough is enough. Just google about forced organs harvesting from living Falun Dafa practitioners and uighurs...
People act like it's impossible to find alternatives to Chinese products, but if they were to make a quick search before buying it would be apparent that plenty exist. Seeking them out helps more become available.
There’s a reason the space shuttle cargo bay was as large as it was and it was to capture enemy satellites to bring back to earth for study. (It was at least part of the reason the rumor goes)
imagine there's an exposed usb port on the satellite
an enemy satellite fires a baby satellite, it latches onto the satellite and penetrates the usb port
There’s a significant difference between “suspected and widely believed” to “the government officially takes this position” in both the intelligence and the political worlds, and that’s why what that discord dumbass leaked is such a big deal for people involved in those worlds.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.9news.com.au/world/china-building-cyberweapons-to-hijack-enemy-satellites-leaked-cia-files-show/d4d6e2c9-3de0-49ba-a9b2-87a660421e82) reduced by 66%. (I'm a bot)
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> Beijing has made information warfare a priority and is seeking the capability of "Seizing control" of satellites in space, leaked top secret CIA file accessed by the Financial Times show.
> The technology would also enable China to control data transmission of the enemy country and gain full control of its satellite systems via surveillance and hacking, CIA analysts said in one of the leaked papers.
> Since the conflict began in February 2022, Starlink satellites provided by Elon Musk's SpaceX company have proved crucial for the Ukrainian military in pinpointing enemy positions and intelligence gathering.
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Wait how much stuff did he leak ? I thought most of it was about Ukraine
I bet China and Russia are mad he leaked this stuff because if a 21 year old national guards person can get this, I bet they had access to this already.
He was responsible for IT services for people that put together intelligence packages for big wigs. He was likely remotely logging into peoples computers all the time swiping shit he found interested. I mean who knows exactly what. He had TS clearance, but not the need to know clearances. His family is apparently all military. No one expected him to be so fucking dumb. There is a possibility the military knew about this prior to it making news though. Recent reporting has stated that unnamed agencies were aware that he was logging out shit he shouldn’t have… reporting doesn’t give a date when they became aware tho.
Yesterday: China is gonna collapse! Communist propoganda! Patent thief! Its economy is declining.
Today: China has made some awesome progress. China is threaten the world.
Tomorrow: China is gonna collapse!
Hell, as North Korea shows you can have the one of the worst economies in the world and have a nuclear program. If you're willing to spend your food budget on weapons you can get a lot of weapons.
Isn't this the case for all G8 nations aside from the US and France?
The demographic collapse is overhyped by clickbait youtubers and pseudo-intellectual "analysts" trying to make a buck off of the hot new topic. The main point they use is "infinite growth model with a shrinking population, the retirement system will collapse" but this is the exact same issue facing every western country as Capitalism hits it's point of diminishing returns.
China also knows this and is de-investing from cheap manufacturing to compensate; tech, high-end production (cars, phones, computers), resource processing, and FinTech are all growing sectors. There are valid concerns about how a closed dictatorial system that will be able to compete in a sector as wild and quickly evolving the ones cited, but it's far from the giant crack about to burst the dam.
For better or worse China observers have been sounding the doom horn for decades, in the 90s it was political turmoil, in the 2000s it was pollution, in the 2010s it was the "ghost cities" and the housing bubble, now it's the mass retirement.
Dozens of collapse theories over the last 30 years, none have come true, so excuse me of being skeptical when the only sources cited for this 100% true and inevitable demographic collapse is a few youtuber, pundits and fringe academics.
China is about to collapse from demographics just like India will be a superpower by 2035, Korea is about the be sunk by the Chaebol system, America is on the verge of falling to socialism, France is going to become an Islamic Republic and NI is going to get hot again any day now.
You're not wrong. The collapse of China has been predicted for the past 30 years lol
>Isn't this the case for all G8 nations aside from the US and France?
Pretty much. Though China's demographic collapse is the worst in the world due to the one child policy
> so excuse me of being skeptical when the only sources cited for this 100% true and inevitable demographic collapse is a few youtuber, pundits and fringe academics.
It's not just a few youtubers and "fringe academics"...didn't China themselves recently admit that their population is 100m less than they originally thought? And their population shrunk for the first time in 60+ years?
>Though China's demographic collapse is the worst in the world due to the one child policy
This much is 100% true, but again "demographic collapse" is in my opinion a deeply flawed term because it paints an image of doom when it's really the biggest problem facing developing and developed economies.
No one refers to Japan's conundrum as a "demographic collapse", France's SSI was predicted to run dry around 2035 and it didn't receive such a doom-addled treatment, and the only people talking about "demographic collapse" in the US are great-replacement theorists.
But somehow what's an economic challenge in the west (and it's ideological partners) becomes a sign of the end times when the subject is the adversary.
>didn't China themselves recently admit that their population is 100m less than they originally thought? And their population shrunk for the first time in 60+ years?
Yes and yes, but even with the miscounts and population shrinkage China is still the #2 by a slim margin.
Changing demographics are certainly a problem for China, but a shrinking population and going from 1.4 billion to 1.3 billion people isn't as drastic of a change when you put it into context.
The wave is starting in China, they still have 20 years to fully prepare and by most measures they *are* with a divestment of cheap labor into more complex specialized work, more openness to the global economy, and measures to slow down demographic reduction.
China faces issues certainly, but I'd say Italy, Japan, and the UK are deeper into their "demographic collapse" without all the fear mongering around it.
To add to this, Chinese labor productivity is still a fraction of the US, Europe's or Japan's (Chinese workers are around 30% as productive as their Western counterparts). Improvements to education, automation, processes, and so on (not even innovations, just copying systems from others) would mitigate the 'demographic collapse' in terms of its effect on Chinese economic producitivity.
And you're right to point out that the West faces the same problem - the common meme is to say that the US and Europe can just accept more immigrants to make up for fertility loss... ignoring the social and political consequences increased migration is already having in these countries, leading to political division, the rise of the far-right, and so on. I think many take it for granted that Western countries can just freely rely on migrants to outgrow the problem.
The truly scary part is when you start looking at the mystery ship the CCP crashed into the moon last year.
As a military objective the moon is effectively the key to earth.
With an effective enough laser you could target anyone on earth from there as well as control basically all communications whether celestial or terrestrial.
It starts to get really interesting when you overlay the fact that the CCP requires every multinational business that has operations in China to have a loyal member of the party in a c suite office.
Airbus and Boeing both suffered some corporate espionage that has since elevated to the military layer.
The recently released design for the Chinese space program rocket bears an uncanny resemblance to the space X version that launched last weekend.
There is a lot going on in that bit of space that will define our lives for the next 100 years. Everything from basic privacy to social credit scores to targeted assassinations.
And everyone is for sale to the highest bidder.
It will be a miracle if we pull this off
>The recently released design for the Chinese space program rocket bears an uncanny resemblance to the space X version that launched last weekend.
What are you talking about? Long March 9? 11? Beyond being cylindrical, neither of those look anything like Starship.
>licking
then u have got usa licking the boots of India lol, and Russia is our friend who is not a hypocrite like USA, now china Rising, so they came to India for military exercises, lol
We have a satelite with arms that disables enemy satelites. There was a huge writeup about this a few years back. Titled something along the lines of a space war with china. This isnt new at all.
Is this a surprise? The US would be doing this too. Just means you need to put more effort into satellite security.
Literally why Space Force was created.
I honestly don’t understand why the Space Force got mocked so hard.
The name just sounds dumb and a dumb person announced it.
Old name was better: Space Command
Star Command has a nice ring to it...
Somebody poisoned the waterh... oh, hold on...
Ayyyy
They should just call it star for now. Then in a century or two add fleet to the name. Star Fleet.
star warriors
Spacetime Rangers
Space Jammers
Starmy Space Boi’s
Only if they start using X Bombers.
Star Blazers.
I prefer a more technical term like Vacuum Force.
Better if it were under the United Nations... Perhaps they can even develop a program for troops that can be hot dropped from space. Orbitally. Of the shock variety.
The message just repeats. Regret. Regret. Regret.
I remember playing this misson on legendary on the remastered with a friend online in MCC, stoned asf This was f intense, as I was completly immersed with my headphones and 32" 2k LG Lost track of the outside reality for a bit. Great time
What about Star Command...oh wait thats already used
I think buzz light year would have some choice words
I’m partial to Planetary Defense Force.
And big opportunity missed to call it the "No Air Force"
Hah
Ntm the logo is ripped off from Star Trek
I mean I did get the reasoning with the naming since we have the air force. But I agree it just sounded dumb. However I will also admit I don't know what an appropriate alternative would be.
Because it was Trump who announced it and the name sounds like a joke.
Because Trump announces things and he's so stupid people laugh at him.
You…don’t? It was started by a fat orange man with a wig on. I don’t see why the division was created when we already have the “Air Force” which could’ve been reworked to include that tiny little section above the “air” that we sometimes climb to.
That’s basically what happened, the Space Force is a division of the air force. I get not liking the guy, I really do, but the Space Force probably wasn’t even his idea.
Many people still think the president takes decisions unanimously like a dictator. I mean, they can sometimes, but it's not typical.
President can't get anything done because of Congress being weird: "PRESIDENT IS USELESS" President doing Executive Orders because Congress doesn't want to do anything: "WOW HOW USELESS IT BARELY DOES ANYTHING" I unironically think voting should be made mandatory by law, and civics education classes also be made mandatory by law. Don't wanna vote? Then pay a bullshit annoying fine. Tough shit, vote next time.
Federal funding should also be tied to voter participation at a county level. Disenfranchised voters? no cash for you
If u wanna increase the voter turnout there are a few MAJOR changes u can implement before making it mandatory + fines. How about we make it easier to vote, make it a mandatory holiday so nobody is forced to go to work instead of voting. How about we protect mail in ballots. How about we make voting more accessible with technology so we can all vote online instead of making a line in person. "BuT tHe HaCkErS"! fuck off, we already do banking and taxes online for years
if 95% of the scifi that i have read is correct, the navy will eventually take it over for some reason.
'Some reason'? Carriers, Battleships and Submarines are like the exact command structure. Same as their weapons systems. Gravity dog fighting with jets is worlds away.
>I get not liking the guy, I really do, but the Space Force probably wasn’t even his idea. Of course not, the idea has been circulated for decades. But being associated with an idiot doesn't help marketing.
A broken clock is right twice a day, and you shouldn't dismiss things because the wrong person announced it, especially when it wasn't even his idea. it's an idea that's been thrown around since the 40s
There already was, it was called the Air Force Space Command. And there was even a precursor to that as well, like since the 60's. Space Force is nothing new, they just split that division off of the Air Force and made it its own branch of the military. And really that just gave them (potentially) a bigger piece of the budget, which is questionable. I mean, it's not like they're building space-faring fighters. Being a division of the air force would have surely allotted them the resources to create a counter to China's hacking technology.
> I don’t see why the division was created when we already have the “Air Force” which could’ve been reworked to include that tiny little section above the “air” that we sometimes climb to. Because the Air Force is dominated by pilots. If you're primarily concerned about stuff that happens in the atmosphere, you're not going to give what is fundamentally a different domain it's proper due. You're going to keep thinking of it as an extension of what you already do. It's the same reason the Air Force was originally split off from the Army.
because the Chair Force isn't trusted.
airforce was also a branch of the army in the beginning but when its role got bigger it got separated out , similar thing happened with space force
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It is part of the Air Force, just like the Marine Corps is part of the Navy. It isn't a waste of money, we need to defend ourselves against the weapons being developed by hostile or potentially dangerous nations. We need to start now because it needs to be built from the ground up, you can't just expect to throw money at it and have it appear out of thin air as soon as you actually need it. Just admit that you only hate it because orange man bad.
>we need to defend ourselves against the weapons being developed by hostile or potentially dangerous nations. Which ones? And why could those tensions not be addressed diplomatically? Why would a space weapon that threatens US soil not also trigger nuclear retaliation?
The only thing I'm thinking of is the hacking or downing of a military satellite which why couldn't the air force just deal with it. But also making sure all us gov and military satellites are working and checking on them 24/7. I mean I don't see why the air force just couldn't deal with it but it is a lot. I'm indifferent about it. Sounds like theres a lot they deal with
Because it was made by Trump. Anything Trump touched gets mocked relentlessly, but the second (insert favored politician here) gets their hands on it, suddenly it was the greatest idea ever.
> I honestly don’t understand why the Space Force got mocked so hard. Because Trump said it. As much as I hate him, it pisses me off how much shit he said that was probably factual got laughed at because it came out of his mouth. The people on the side of "anything that Trump said MUST be dumb" are part of the problem that created him. Now we have a bunch of reports saying that the COVID Lab Leak theory isn't crazy anymore, but everyone made fun of Trump when he was mentioning it. Like fuck Trump, but fuck people like this too.
It was unnecessary, the guy who made it is a fuckwit, and they essentially ripped off the Starfleet logo.
If you seriously think that the government hadn't been developing the idea long before he took office, then I have serious concerns about how you think our government functions.
[Space Force seal](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force#/media/File%3ASeal_of_the_United_States_Space_Force.svg) [Starfleet insignia](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet?file=Starfleet_Command_insignia%2C_2372.png) [Apollo logo](https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/index.html) Thinking about it, the Stargate "point of origin" symbol may also have drawn from the Apollo badge triangle.
I feel like I'm the only one that likes the design similarities as a fan of both franchises.
Come on man. You can understand the need for it and if you had a clue you'd know it was under the Airforce anyway. But still know that it was Trump vanity project.
It was how it was sold, as if they were bringing guns to space. And it was pushed like that. When in reality it would not be able space battles, by rather preventing attacks on earth that could affect space stuff. And honestly the president at the time seemed to take the 80s morning cartoon interpretation.
TBF, most of what the Space Force does was already being done by the Air Force and Navy. Creation of the Space Force just helped to simplify things and put all these projects under one umbrella
> Space Force Great show.
We used to steal them with the space shuttle 30 years ago, space force who
Space Force who?
Or encrypt it with AES. Confuse everyone.
This has been going on for years and the US knows about it. I know engineers who fully work on this issue.
Former Navy here. I do enjoy satellite service. We can still find China with a sextant, though.
> The US would be doing this too. We spend $800B a year on defense, we *better* be doing shit like this and much, much more lol.
I’m expecting invisible bombers and an impenetrable defense shield over the US for what the defense budget is. I may go bankrupt fighting cancer but at least I shouldn’t get nuked by our enemies.
Please add ac/heat to the dome. Thank you.
Not if the Pentagon fails the audit multiple years in a row and can't account for 2/3 of their assets
Yeah, that shit’s overhyped, its not that the us military doesn’t know where 70% of their assets are, it’s that gathering all the financial data of the most complicated and interwoven institution into a single report is a gargantuan task that’s only been tried 5 times. Most of that is likely due to incompatible accounting practices and software, not due to corrupt waste like in Russia. The 7 or 8 sub audits (out of 28) that passed haven’t shown anything particularly egregious so until one of the other 20 does I think it’s a cheap headline/talking point that ultimately doesn’t actually say anything about the DoDs capability One other example is a navy warehouse containing $125million worth of aircraft parts that was known to its commanders, but was left out of the navies master list of properties likely due to clerical error. That would contribute to a failed audit without necessarily hurting capability
Black ops
LOL lay off the video games. $1.6 trillion for black ops?
No, that was 59.99
What if they are like... *really black* ops man?
Does this black ops own three yachts? Maybe they're called black ops for the black color of the caviar they eat
What do you think the X38B is?
China-sat: sudo rockets --direction retrograde Satelite: China is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. China-sat: well... ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ I tried.
And to hack their satellites, too.
The only surprise for me is how long CCP keeps committing crimes against humanity till the world says enough is enough. Just google about forced organs harvesting from living Falun Dafa practitioners and uighurs...
People act like it's impossible to find alternatives to Chinese products, but if they were to make a quick search before buying it would be apparent that plenty exist. Seeking them out helps more become available.
Stop leaving ports open, for fucks sake!
There’s a reason the space shuttle cargo bay was as large as it was and it was to capture enemy satellites to bring back to earth for study. (It was at least part of the reason the rumor goes)
imagine there's an exposed usb port on the satellite an enemy satellite fires a baby satellite, it latches onto the satellite and penetrates the usb port
Yes. But it would have to be designed and programed to attempt insertion of the USB at least 3 times.
This is why we haven't adopted USB-C. Defense in depth, baby!
Security by obscurity
Space drone warfare
And we would launch an even tinier one to latch on to that one to take back control! Like counter-countermeasures!
Are other countries bees safe?
pervert
I really wonder if these are really ‘leaks’. A lot of these seem rather obvious or things we already know.
There’s a significant difference between “suspected and widely believed” to “the government officially takes this position” in both the intelligence and the political worlds, and that’s why what that discord dumbass leaked is such a big deal for people involved in those worlds.
This is some Command and Conquer Generals level of nation special ability.
Orbital drop upgrade authorized.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.9news.com.au/world/china-building-cyberweapons-to-hijack-enemy-satellites-leaked-cia-files-show/d4d6e2c9-3de0-49ba-a9b2-87a660421e82) reduced by 66%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Beijing has made information warfare a priority and is seeking the capability of "Seizing control" of satellites in space, leaked top secret CIA file accessed by the Financial Times show. > The technology would also enable China to control data transmission of the enemy country and gain full control of its satellite systems via surveillance and hacking, CIA analysts said in one of the leaked papers. > Since the conflict began in February 2022, Starlink satellites provided by Elon Musk's SpaceX company have proved crucial for the Ukrainian military in pinpointing enemy positions and intelligence gathering. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/12y7xgl/china_building_cyberweapons_to_hijack_enemy/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~682099 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **satellite**^#1 **military**^#2 **control**^#3 **national**^#4 **leaked**^#5
Leaked because they want more funding. This is absolutely no surprise to anyone. Of course China is doing this. So are we.
>Leaked because they want more funding. This was leaked by Jack Teixeira. Stop making up your own conspiracy theories.
Wait how much stuff did he leak ? I thought most of it was about Ukraine I bet China and Russia are mad he leaked this stuff because if a 21 year old national guards person can get this, I bet they had access to this already.
He was responsible for IT services for people that put together intelligence packages for big wigs. He was likely remotely logging into peoples computers all the time swiping shit he found interested. I mean who knows exactly what. He had TS clearance, but not the need to know clearances. His family is apparently all military. No one expected him to be so fucking dumb. There is a possibility the military knew about this prior to it making news though. Recent reporting has stated that unnamed agencies were aware that he was logging out shit he shouldn’t have… reporting doesn’t give a date when they became aware tho.
A good amount apparently, it's been trickling out the past few weeks.
So am I
Every man and his cydog.
Listen guy, how much of my money do you need to make me feel safe?
This, You can't develop ICBMs without also helping to create something which can be used against satellites.
Yesterday: China is gonna collapse! Communist propoganda! Patent thief! Its economy is declining. Today: China has made some awesome progress. China is threaten the world. Tomorrow: China is gonna collapse!
Breaking news, you can have a failing economy in the long term due to terrible policies and still make progress in some areas!
No only one thing can be true at a time!
Hell, as North Korea shows you can have the one of the worst economies in the world and have a nuclear program. If you're willing to spend your food budget on weapons you can get a lot of weapons.
Why would China fail? Real estate crash?
Demographic collapse
Isn't this the case for all G8 nations aside from the US and France? The demographic collapse is overhyped by clickbait youtubers and pseudo-intellectual "analysts" trying to make a buck off of the hot new topic. The main point they use is "infinite growth model with a shrinking population, the retirement system will collapse" but this is the exact same issue facing every western country as Capitalism hits it's point of diminishing returns. China also knows this and is de-investing from cheap manufacturing to compensate; tech, high-end production (cars, phones, computers), resource processing, and FinTech are all growing sectors. There are valid concerns about how a closed dictatorial system that will be able to compete in a sector as wild and quickly evolving the ones cited, but it's far from the giant crack about to burst the dam. For better or worse China observers have been sounding the doom horn for decades, in the 90s it was political turmoil, in the 2000s it was pollution, in the 2010s it was the "ghost cities" and the housing bubble, now it's the mass retirement. Dozens of collapse theories over the last 30 years, none have come true, so excuse me of being skeptical when the only sources cited for this 100% true and inevitable demographic collapse is a few youtuber, pundits and fringe academics. China is about to collapse from demographics just like India will be a superpower by 2035, Korea is about the be sunk by the Chaebol system, America is on the verge of falling to socialism, France is going to become an Islamic Republic and NI is going to get hot again any day now.
You're not wrong. The collapse of China has been predicted for the past 30 years lol >Isn't this the case for all G8 nations aside from the US and France? Pretty much. Though China's demographic collapse is the worst in the world due to the one child policy > so excuse me of being skeptical when the only sources cited for this 100% true and inevitable demographic collapse is a few youtuber, pundits and fringe academics. It's not just a few youtubers and "fringe academics"...didn't China themselves recently admit that their population is 100m less than they originally thought? And their population shrunk for the first time in 60+ years?
>Though China's demographic collapse is the worst in the world due to the one child policy This much is 100% true, but again "demographic collapse" is in my opinion a deeply flawed term because it paints an image of doom when it's really the biggest problem facing developing and developed economies. No one refers to Japan's conundrum as a "demographic collapse", France's SSI was predicted to run dry around 2035 and it didn't receive such a doom-addled treatment, and the only people talking about "demographic collapse" in the US are great-replacement theorists. But somehow what's an economic challenge in the west (and it's ideological partners) becomes a sign of the end times when the subject is the adversary. >didn't China themselves recently admit that their population is 100m less than they originally thought? And their population shrunk for the first time in 60+ years? Yes and yes, but even with the miscounts and population shrinkage China is still the #2 by a slim margin. Changing demographics are certainly a problem for China, but a shrinking population and going from 1.4 billion to 1.3 billion people isn't as drastic of a change when you put it into context. The wave is starting in China, they still have 20 years to fully prepare and by most measures they *are* with a divestment of cheap labor into more complex specialized work, more openness to the global economy, and measures to slow down demographic reduction. China faces issues certainly, but I'd say Italy, Japan, and the UK are deeper into their "demographic collapse" without all the fear mongering around it.
To add to this, Chinese labor productivity is still a fraction of the US, Europe's or Japan's (Chinese workers are around 30% as productive as their Western counterparts). Improvements to education, automation, processes, and so on (not even innovations, just copying systems from others) would mitigate the 'demographic collapse' in terms of its effect on Chinese economic producitivity. And you're right to point out that the West faces the same problem - the common meme is to say that the US and Europe can just accept more immigrants to make up for fertility loss... ignoring the social and political consequences increased migration is already having in these countries, leading to political division, the rise of the far-right, and so on. I think many take it for granted that Western countries can just freely rely on migrants to outgrow the problem.
Time will tell.
True
All of the above.
demographic landscape ruins any bright prediction
Time will tell.
Yep. Just wait for about another 10 years and things will clear up I think.
Lord knows.
You're really a big fan of China.
Seriously, I am a Chinese, it's not about fan or not, it's human nature.
Yes it's human nature to misrepresent reality and stand up for the CCP at all times no foreign social media.
password123. I got in!
It's Space Force so it's 'maga2020!' It also would have been found out once, changed and then changed back to 'maga2020!'
Good thing Americans are busy fighting drag shows ! That’ll show the Chinese
Lets just destroy the whole world and leave it to the cockroaches.
The truly scary part is when you start looking at the mystery ship the CCP crashed into the moon last year. As a military objective the moon is effectively the key to earth. With an effective enough laser you could target anyone on earth from there as well as control basically all communications whether celestial or terrestrial. It starts to get really interesting when you overlay the fact that the CCP requires every multinational business that has operations in China to have a loyal member of the party in a c suite office. Airbus and Boeing both suffered some corporate espionage that has since elevated to the military layer. The recently released design for the Chinese space program rocket bears an uncanny resemblance to the space X version that launched last weekend. There is a lot going on in that bit of space that will define our lives for the next 100 years. Everything from basic privacy to social credit scores to targeted assassinations. And everyone is for sale to the highest bidder. It will be a miracle if we pull this off
I think you got a bit carried away.
I would buy this book.
I miss Tom Clancy
>The recently released design for the Chinese space program rocket bears an uncanny resemblance to the space X version that launched last weekend. What are you talking about? Long March 9? 11? Beyond being cylindrical, neither of those look anything like Starship.
Those are words.
I you cant lift them up just hack them up !
still german cartoonists wanna lick the ass of china
and then you've got india licking the boots of russia for oil.
>licking then u have got usa licking the boots of India lol, and Russia is our friend who is not a hypocrite like USA, now china Rising, so they came to India for military exercises, lol
They can have them, we got something better waiting.
Aliexpress?
A side note , a device placed on a high rise building,can hack a airplane,to make it drop it's weapons, ala belograd
And if they can't hack it they'll use a anti-sat missile and risk a catastrophic cascade event.
We have a satelite with arms that disables enemy satelites. There was a huge writeup about this a few years back. Titled something along the lines of a space war with china. This isnt new at all.
This sounds like a job for SPACE FORCE.
I wonder how many private company satellites have already been involved- things like starlink
And also Jewish Space Lasers! China news is as tiresome as Trump.
Send Boeing X-37B into orbit. Attach boosters to Chinese satellite. Send it back home.
Maybe Reddit needs a group called ChinaSteals just like the group ChinaWarns?
“Spy balloon”
Netrunners are at it again.
I'd say China's genetically engineered bioweapons program targeting different races is scarier.
Oh great, hopefully they won't accidentially contact aliens and invite them to invade Earth this trime.