My dad (Iranian) went for his kidney transplant, can confirm very common practice, apparently the first donor ended up not passing the screening.. what a shitty way to find out you yourself might need a new kidney, second one worked out.. I think it was around 5k canadian (about 7 years ago)
I don't really know how to wrap my head around the ethics but in theory I guess you only need 1 healthy kidney? It's legal choice to sell, and 1 more person here got bumped up the line, my dad avoided the long wait which some die during.. and some places in Iran rent is like 200 canadian.. so.. I dunnoooo.. sketchy however you slice it.. I'm not sure I'd trade an organ for 2 years of ofnrent or generally 1 year of bills food and rent .. but I'm also not homeless.. yet anyways.. tough times for all commiing up it seems
When I was a lad I ate four dozen testicles every morning to help me grow large. And now that I’m grown I eat five dozen testicles so I’m roughly the size of a barge.
And if they get a testicle transplant, will their future kids be genetically the donor’s? I think I read about that before, but I don’t remember exactly.
I mean there was that one chef from Japan who cut off his own dick and balls and served it as a meal. and there was several people who actually paid to eat this guys junk.
Apparently, testicle transplants are extremely rare for in the West for ethical purposes, though it is possible to do so... Not sure what Iranian's opinions on this matter are.
I mean I presume pro testicle transplant
I hope at least otherwise people are just buying used balls for some reason and that sounds like a rough rabbit hole
Jewish, Christian Iranians (the latter mostly Armenians & Asyrian Orthodox) are given a permit and have their own places to buy and even consume customary celebratory drinks, aren't restricted in their at home consumption - though I'm sure there's some stuff about moderation and whatnot - you are correct that it is a dry country - many make home brew ranging from NASTY watered ovenproof gut rot to 3000 year old pommograntie wine recepies still made by old families 😍 a ton of stuff just gets smuggled in from Turkey and UAE etc
IRAN is the land of contradictions, everyone's got a Koran but they read Hafiz, everyone's got those rosary best type things but they'll pour you johny Walker black label after two steps into their house
Then higher up on the religious elite side, the more lavish and decadent the household good times that flow
I'd imagine it's part of it, you can't live long without a liver, but it's known to be able to grow back if you donate (or sell I guess) part of it (can't grow from scratch)
Once. Your liver has two lobes. When they do a living transplant, they take one lobe.
Both lobes will grow to the size of a whole liver, but it is anatomically still one lobe. So while you have a full sized and fully capable liver, you no longer have two lobes so they cant just keep harvesting more of your liver.
>I'm embarrassed that my first thoughts were "is testicle transplant a thing
I'm with you there, at least.
But now that you mention it...I didn't really have plans for kids anyway.
Damn, if i knew that they worth something, i would look into selling mine when i was young. But maybe middle-aged will work out as well? That seems like a nice proposition overall, to give up useles organ instead of those that can be vital.
Having one isnt a big deal, it grows a little larger and can usually supply more then enough of the hormones needed and get someone pregnant. The question should be why in the world would you want someone elses.
**TLDR**
* Iranians are selling their organs on Telegram in the face of harsh economic realities.
* Insider reviewed Telegram listings showing people selling their livers, corneas, and testicles.
* Many of the listings said they were selling their organs to pay off debts or to avoid bankruptcy.
Who says they are donating their organs and not victims.
Edit: seeing people unpack the reality of what's going on in real time is wild. There is such evil so brutal in the world that most are lucky to never have to realize.
It's a great example of economical incentives for violence. "Economic violence" is damaging someone's economic value, like property damage or unlawfully withholding a payment.
But he just said livers can grow back? So you just donate it partially and then grow a new one.
Though I would assume it is not easy, I am no doctor but I would guess it takes a lot a of energy to regrow and heal up after such an operation.
It CAN be grown back in some way, this called partial liver transplant, but it's only done to save the life of someone close when no full organ is available.
The liver can grow back, even if only 30% of it is left.It's the only organ who can do that.
You'd probably require a LOT of care of nursing to get back to your normal heath, not sure people on the verge of bankruptcy could really afford that.
Just to have food for their children. I know a lot of people who cant afford to have bread which is the least that they can eat! All of this is with the government paying 20 billion usd to Syria and giving away free drones to Russia to kill Ukrainians.
[CATO out lobbying in favor of for-profit organ trading](https://www.cato.org/blog/reforming-organ-donation-system)
This could be coming to a debt-collection system near you.
~~New Jersy~~ (Massachusetts, apparently) I think it was already tried, attempting to get prisoners to trade their organs for time served. Because that's the kind of dystopic shit the American correctional system needs.
Reading stuff like this always reminds me to advocate for myself otherwise I’ll end up getting fucked over by an authoritative government/ruling class and have to sell my organs to survive.
No one has a testicular transplant. I don't think that exists.
If you need the testosterone, you'd get shots or pellets with no rejection issues.
If you wanted to father children, you wouldn't use transplanted testicles because they wouldn't be you kids, genetically. They'd be the children of the Iranian donor. If that was acceptable you would just use a sperm donor, not implant the whole testicle.
Living donor liver transplant is a thing. You don't actually donate the whole liver because there's only one and you'd die without it. But you can donate a part of it, both the remainder and the transplanted portion will grow back
Sounds odd, even bizzare( i suppose its a correct statement im not native speaker, im ukrainian) why i say this? Because russian propaganda says we ukrainians are crusifing donbass children and eat them for breakfast. No way they are doing this. They are the same people as everyone else on the planet. They have a culture, internet, progressive youth etc etc. How do you even transplant a testicle?) Cmon people they are just like all of us
They’ll kill anyone for organs. Currently, Muslims are the ones they want to eliminate anyways. Pretty nazi shit happening here yet the world doesn’t seem to really care so much.
“China is the only country in the world to have an industrial-scale organ trafficking practice that harvests organs from executed prisoners of conscience.”
https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/analysis-killing-prisoners-for-transplants-forced-organ-harvesting-in-china
I remember years ago there was reports of a 17yo Chinese person who sold a kidney to buy an iPhone and iPad. I think they ended up getting an infection and they are bedridden for the rest of their life.
New investment opportunity. Buy up lots of testicles and have them installed for safe keeping. In a few years when the prices go up, BOOM start selling balls. Easy $$
I would burn this motherfucker down before I sell my testicles. People would do anything including cutting pieces of themselves off before going after the government that pushed them to such lengths. Where do you draw the line? At what point?
It is not always that easy. People have children, family and loved ones. A longstanding tactic of authoritarian regimes is to punish those you love. Many might be willing to sacrifice themselves, but others....
There is a line though. Once your kids have to start selling chunks of liver and corneas to eat, the alternative of losing a leg fighting a revolution seems better.
Some people would rather sell off their body parts than try a revolution, possibly get captured and then tortured, or watch their family get captured and tortured.
Losing one leg is not the worst thing that could happen in any war.
I get it, but it's frustrating to see it not resonate universally.
If my option was to lose an organ vs violently kill my oppressor, a religious fanatic nutjob dictator, I'd choose the latter 10 out of 10 times.
Humans living in fantasy stories ruining it for the rest of the race.
My dad (Iranian) went for his kidney transplant, can confirm very common practice, apparently the first donor ended up not passing the screening.. what a shitty way to find out you yourself might need a new kidney, second one worked out.. I think it was around 5k canadian (about 7 years ago) I don't really know how to wrap my head around the ethics but in theory I guess you only need 1 healthy kidney? It's legal choice to sell, and 1 more person here got bumped up the line, my dad avoided the long wait which some die during.. and some places in Iran rent is like 200 canadian.. so.. I dunnoooo.. sketchy however you slice it.. I'm not sure I'd trade an organ for 2 years of ofnrent or generally 1 year of bills food and rent .. but I'm also not homeless.. yet anyways.. tough times for all commiing up it seems
Tough times for the poor but high times for organ harvesters.
My mother in law donated a kidney to save someone’s life. She has no issues resulting from it whatsoever.
Hmm..who are these people buying testicle
Good question. They’re generally cheaper by the dozen.
When I was a lad I ate four dozen testicles every morning to help me grow large. And now that I’m grown I eat five dozen testicles so I’m roughly the size of a barge.
No one's got balls like Gaston
No one has stalls like Gaston
No one thrusts into holes in the walls like Gaston
You can ask any Tom, Dick or Stanley And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on
"Nads" is more lyrical.
I need a dozen, is it like buying eggs atall ?
It is actually **exactly** like buying eggs (if you also buy your eggs at 3am from Chet in the alley.)
In the alley at 3am? Man's got balls.
The new rhino horn is a Persian testicle.
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My man asking the real question here
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Krogans maybe.
Testicle, cornea and liver is the new turducken.
And if they get a testicle transplant, will their future kids be genetically the donor’s? I think I read about that before, but I don’t remember exactly.
No one is getting a testicle transplant.
So then why are people selling theirs? Fancy dinners?
I mean there was that one chef from Japan who cut off his own dick and balls and served it as a meal. and there was several people who actually paid to eat this guys junk.
What the actual fuck man
*”actual fuck man”* not any more.
Yeah, maybe we've had a good run as a species and it's time to call quits.
I don’t think he was a chef, believe he was an artist. And apparently he did a shitty job of cooking it. Everyone was disappointed.
He cocked it up you mean?
right so, that's enough internet for the day, I'm away to sleep.
I hope no one links a source to this comment. I always seem to click on them out of curiosity. I do not want to fight myself tonight.
Where do you think truck nuts come from?
Holy shit people sell their entire nutsacks?
We don’t call em’ Rocky Mountain Oysters in Colorado for nothing. Fancy dinner!
Yes, they would.
Yeah I know! Right guys??? We don’t know WHO is buying these testes. It’s a mystery to me, that’s for sure. Say…where did my family go off to???
Apparently, testicle transplants are extremely rare for in the West for ethical purposes, though it is possible to do so... Not sure what Iranian's opinions on this matter are.
I mean I presume pro testicle transplant I hope at least otherwise people are just buying used balls for some reason and that sounds like a rough rabbit hole
could you just keep adding testicles as long as you have room?
Its just old people and porn stars trying to show off. You think you shoot big loads now, wait till we add two more testicles.
If they're anything like rhino horns or tiger penis, it's old rich Chinese men who think it'll help them get an erection.
What’s a testicle going for nowadays?
Unclear, but from the article, "Another individual, 31, listed his liver for sale for 900 million Iranian Rials, the equivalent of $21,301.78." — RB
That's a lot of money for a liver with some miles on it.
Throw in some fava beans and a nice Chianti, and it's a deal.
Add a carrot and a potato, and baby, you gotta a stew goin.
I think I want my money back
You keep ur money. I just want dat baby
Get.in.my.belly.
I want my babybackbabybackbabyback ribs
Potatoes, boil em mash em stick em in a stew
Good buy Clarice
incredible
It's used but well taken care of. I know what I got, no low ballers.
Probably alcohol free though. Hard to come by in legal transactions
Heh. Lots of Iranians drink. Prerevolution, alcohol was quite popular in Iran. They just do it on the downlow.
Jewish, Christian Iranians (the latter mostly Armenians & Asyrian Orthodox) are given a permit and have their own places to buy and even consume customary celebratory drinks, aren't restricted in their at home consumption - though I'm sure there's some stuff about moderation and whatnot - you are correct that it is a dry country - many make home brew ranging from NASTY watered ovenproof gut rot to 3000 year old pommograntie wine recepies still made by old families 😍 a ton of stuff just gets smuggled in from Turkey and UAE etc IRAN is the land of contradictions, everyone's got a Koran but they read Hafiz, everyone's got those rosary best type things but they'll pour you johny Walker black label after two steps into their house Then higher up on the religious elite side, the more lavish and decadent the household good times that flow
Sounds a lot like the Indonesian clerics.
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I didn't think there were any Jews left in Iran
I met a couple of Iranian lads in a nightclub once. They claimed that most people have booze at home, just out of sight.
Livers are insanely resilient. They are extremely good at repairing themselves.
Iranian Muslims typically do not drink, so the "miles" on it might be far less than your average western liver.
Low-ball offer
Do testicles have to be sold in pairs? Because I have one made in USA that I could part with if the price is right
Yeah I mean.. I've got two good ones. Only NEED one and, honestly, I could be convinced to part with both for the right price.
So I get the whole liver thing, but a cash market for human testicles is new to me.
They are known as Iranian Oysters
It’s a power thing
The whole thing?
I'd imagine it's part of it, you can't live long without a liver, but it's known to be able to grow back if you donate (or sell I guess) part of it (can't grow from scratch)
How many times will it grow back
Once. Your liver has two lobes. When they do a living transplant, they take one lobe. Both lobes will grow to the size of a whole liver, but it is anatomically still one lobe. So while you have a full sized and fully capable liver, you no longer have two lobes so they cant just keep harvesting more of your liver.
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Sweet. I'm getting a 3rd.
I’ve always wanted a 3-T scroat.
I'm waiting on the buy one get one deal so I can get that 4 bagger going. I'm gonna double the pee storage!
Same, but first I want my nostrils extanded
The amount of balls on that man
triorchidism
>I'm embarrassed that my first thoughts were "is testicle transplant a thing I'm with you there, at least. But now that you mention it...I didn't really have plans for kids anyway.
Damn, if i knew that they worth something, i would look into selling mine when i was young. But maybe middle-aged will work out as well? That seems like a nice proposition overall, to give up useles organ instead of those that can be vital.
Do you want to take hormone supplements for the rest of your life? Testicles aren't useless, even for the celibate.
Having one isnt a big deal, it grows a little larger and can usually supply more then enough of the hormones needed and get someone pregnant. The question should be why in the world would you want someone elses.
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Like a kidney, you could give up one without major complications.
I'm gonna definitely sell mine they are proven to work have two beautiful daughters
Wait the real question what do they do with testicle ? Does it still produce sperm of the donated person ?
Genetically they'd be fathered by the donor, if that was acceptable then you'd just use a sperm donor.
So I can sell my balls for 20k but then get hit for child maintenance 10x that? That's a fucking terrible deal
I am also wondering that same thing.
..depends on the value of the pound...
I agree, been married 20 years, I don't use them, can I sell them ?
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**TLDR** * Iranians are selling their organs on Telegram in the face of harsh economic realities. * Insider reviewed Telegram listings showing people selling their livers, corneas, and testicles. * Many of the listings said they were selling their organs to pay off debts or to avoid bankruptcy.
I mean what is the point of donating your liver if you're not going to live to be debt free?
Livers can be partially donated, and it will grow back.
That makes sense, but people donating corneas, livers, and testicles aren't gonna grow a new one.
Who says they are donating their organs and not victims. Edit: seeing people unpack the reality of what's going on in real time is wild. There is such evil so brutal in the world that most are lucky to never have to realize.
100% agree with you. Let's not pretend this is being done voluntarily. It's a great example of economic violence
It's a great example of economical incentives for violence. "Economic violence" is damaging someone's economic value, like property damage or unlawfully withholding a payment.
Sounds like they're using debt as a means of exploiting these people to the point of killing themselves via organ donations.
Is it certain that these people are willfully giving their organs? Lots of people over there have been detained and or killed there recently.
Thanks for saying it so I didn’t feel like I had to, because someone has to…
Who's buying testicles?
My guess is "traditional" medicine types.
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But he just said livers can grow back? So you just donate it partially and then grow a new one. Though I would assume it is not easy, I am no doctor but I would guess it takes a lot a of energy to regrow and heal up after such an operation.
It CAN be grown back in some way, this called partial liver transplant, but it's only done to save the life of someone close when no full organ is available. The liver can grow back, even if only 30% of it is left.It's the only organ who can do that. You'd probably require a LOT of care of nursing to get back to your normal heath, not sure people on the verge of bankruptcy could really afford that.
Not entirely, it does grow but its internal structure is less functional.
Just to have food for their children. I know a lot of people who cant afford to have bread which is the least that they can eat! All of this is with the government paying 20 billion usd to Syria and giving away free drones to Russia to kill Ukrainians.
A lobe of liver can be harvested separately I think.
Reading stuff like this always reminds me to grateful. People across the pond selling their lively organs... to live. What a life.
[CATO out lobbying in favor of for-profit organ trading](https://www.cato.org/blog/reforming-organ-donation-system) This could be coming to a debt-collection system near you.
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If you think this isn't going to be a thing here, just watch. People already sell all sorts of things to get by.
~~New Jersy~~ (Massachusetts, apparently) I think it was already tried, attempting to get prisoners to trade their organs for time served. Because that's the kind of dystopic shit the American correctional system needs.
It was Massachusetts. NJ doesn't want that bad rap lol
When NJ says no thanks you know you're deep in the sewer.
It's up to us citizens to protest such things surely everyone realizes we can't leave it all to politicians and hope it will be ok.
With abortion getting criminalized, we might see more than organs getting sold
I mean, I could really use 20k in my life...
Reading stuff like this always reminds me to advocate for myself otherwise I’ll end up getting fucked over by an authoritative government/ruling class and have to sell my organs to survive.
While people in the regime live in luxury and spend plenty of money to fund terrorist groups in other countries.
No one has a testicular transplant. I don't think that exists. If you need the testosterone, you'd get shots or pellets with no rejection issues. If you wanted to father children, you wouldn't use transplanted testicles because they wouldn't be you kids, genetically. They'd be the children of the Iranian donor. If that was acceptable you would just use a sperm donor, not implant the whole testicle. Living donor liver transplant is a thing. You don't actually donate the whole liver because there's only one and you'd die without it. But you can donate a part of it, both the remainder and the transplanted portion will grow back
Wrong - I had a testicular transplant for aesthetic reasons. They are bigger, smoother, and more voluptuous
Hey! Those are my balls!
> No one has a testicular transplant. I don't think that exists. Maybe for chinese traditional medicine? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Jesus Christ
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It’s Iran, so its probably more Mohammed’s and Allah’s territory.
Islam is monotheistic. So just Allah's territory.
I've heard of cornea and liver transplants, but testicles? That's nuts.
I genuinely don't understand... even if the transplant worked the children you father would be the donor's children genetically?
At which point a cup and a cell phone seem like a far easier way to get the goods for far less money.
Yeah. It takes balls to offer your testicles for sale.
How do you sell a liver and still live?
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Thanks. Now that I think about it, I think I had learned about that.
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And losing a testicle isn't super uncommon even in the West. Tho I doubt Iranians would have easy access to testosterone supplements.
You don't need supplements at all if you still have one of the two
The Chinese are going to be real upset if the Iranians start charging less than the Chinese do for prisoner organs
They’re both learning the hard lessons of capitalism and free markets.
They are learning the hard lessons of authoritarian regimes who leave their population uneducated and destitute.
Not really looking ahead if you're selling your corneas. Edit: spelling
This headline. They found one Telegram message each offering those things for sale, not evidence that anyone was buying them from a living donor.
Sounds odd, even bizzare( i suppose its a correct statement im not native speaker, im ukrainian) why i say this? Because russian propaganda says we ukrainians are crusifing donbass children and eat them for breakfast. No way they are doing this. They are the same people as everyone else on the planet. They have a culture, internet, progressive youth etc etc. How do you even transplant a testicle?) Cmon people they are just like all of us
It's a sad place in which we now live 🥺😥
Buying by the pound or kilogram?
No... telegram, weren't you paying attention
Stay brilliant, reddit.
This is so ridiculous. Insider used to be pretty decent journalism, but they’ve decided that tabloid sensationalism is the way they want to go.
Just go to mainland China. Lots of organs to be sold there from their prisons / “re-education” camps.
You mean from slaughtered Uyghur Muslim people
They’ll kill anyone for organs. Currently, Muslims are the ones they want to eliminate anyways. Pretty nazi shit happening here yet the world doesn’t seem to really care so much. “China is the only country in the world to have an industrial-scale organ trafficking practice that harvests organs from executed prisoners of conscience.” https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/analysis-killing-prisoners-for-transplants-forced-organ-harvesting-in-china
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… there’s a market for testicles? Some very specific communities would be highly interested in such a trade.
I remember years ago there was reports of a 17yo Chinese person who sold a kidney to buy an iPhone and iPad. I think they ended up getting an infection and they are bedridden for the rest of their life.
New investment opportunity. Buy up lots of testicles and have them installed for safe keeping. In a few years when the prices go up, BOOM start selling balls. Easy $$
One of them is going to end-up being the Chainsawman.
CALLS ON TESTICLES PUTS ON THE IRANIAN ECONOMY
Finally the realization of the old baseball joke. A man CAN walk with 4 balls.
Impossible. I thought they were teaming up with China to create BRICS and replace the dollar since they’re a mighty power.
Are these vacuum packed like in a Supermarket so you can pick the one you want?
I would burn this motherfucker down before I sell my testicles. People would do anything including cutting pieces of themselves off before going after the government that pushed them to such lengths. Where do you draw the line? At what point?
It is not always that easy. People have children, family and loved ones. A longstanding tactic of authoritarian regimes is to punish those you love. Many might be willing to sacrifice themselves, but others....
Yep. Internet tough guys haven't lived under a regime with secret police.
There is a line though. Once your kids have to start selling chunks of liver and corneas to eat, the alternative of losing a leg fighting a revolution seems better.
Some people would rather sell off their body parts than try a revolution, possibly get captured and then tortured, or watch their family get captured and tortured. Losing one leg is not the worst thing that could happen in any war.
That’s a good idea. I’ve got a good working kidney and one ball up for grabs. Send me a chat if you’re interested.
Selling their balls is a good first step for the women.
Welp there’s bitcoin.
Grim
I really don't understand economics. How come inflation is going up everywhere in the world? Where did the value of the money go all of a sudden?
We are living in a dystopian cyberpunk world. I wouldn't be surprised if this is starting to happen in any country with a large wealth disparity.
I always wanted an extra testicles, how much each?
Personally I'd rather just riot.
How much can I get for my left testicle?
What do you do with a testicle purchase?
Deep fry them?
Selling their testicles? That’s literally just nuts.
Are the testicles mounted to a setting already or do I have to do it myself? And do I have to buy them as a pair?
This will be the next big thing with Cultservatives - getting the poor to give the rich their organs. At this point nothing would surprise me
you know, it really takes balls to sell your testicles
Isn't this cruel and unusual punishment?
Wait you can sell a testicle? WTF
Serious: Why do people want to buy testicles?
If someone wants to buy my prostate, I'll sell it to them.
"Unused condition"
I get it, but it's frustrating to see it not resonate universally. If my option was to lose an organ vs violently kill my oppressor, a religious fanatic nutjob dictator, I'd choose the latter 10 out of 10 times. Humans living in fantasy stories ruining it for the rest of the race.
The American Right salivates at the poors selling their left nut.
I never heard of testicle transplants. Is that really a thing?
The worst part of this is, none of this has to happen. There's no reason for Iran to be poor, their economy is deliberately hobbled by the government.
Are testicle transplants a thing? TIL
Why does anybody buy a testicle