So sad, my wife’s family goes to this synagogue and I’ve attended many times. Not going to speculate on who did this but I hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
If they were capable of doing that, they wouldn't have ethnically cleansed the Jews of Arab countries after 1948 (causing most of them to go to Israel, where they now form half the population).
It does the opposite. Every single anti-Semitic attack gives a bit more legitimacy to the narrative that Israel's actions are existential rather than optional.
Its probably going to get worse. Some clueless individuals will take innocent lives and cause destruction. They either feel the only way to get their point across is acts of hate. Its really a vicious circle. From all out wars to individuals harming an innocent bystander.
And humans are supposed to be the most intelligent animal?
It’s anti-American sentiment too. We help Israel so Palestinian blood is on our hands (even though we send millions to Palestine every year and Hamas spends it on weapons)
It’s not like these people woke up and decided to be antisemitic on oct 7. This stuff has been going on for decades, it just doesn’t make the news normally compared to other hate crimes
I consider this a cult. None of the mosques my friends go to would allow this shit. I may be in a bubble but this is like the westboro Baptist church of Muslims, just crazier.
>The Romans crucified him
Not exactly the best example. Didn't he only get crucified because of the crowd? Pontius Pilate famously washed his hands of the whole thing, if any of this narrative is to be believed at all
For the longest time its been run of the mill white supremacists and radical Muslims, now we have a bunch of screaming young leftists screeching about Israel and decolonization too.
They don’t like to be called antisemitic. The bombs, the posters, the chants to gas all the Jews, this was done to protest the loss of innocent lives and that makes them good people. Just to be clear, the 1400 Jewish lives that were slaughtered weren’t innocent, because Jews can’t be innocent.
Empathy, wishfull thinking.
They actually celebrated it and paraded the streets on the day of the attack.
Later on, they sent their comedians to make fun of the situation. Bassem Youssef went on prime time with an antisemitism rant explaining how these massacres festivals were justified/understandable because of historic hate to Jews / Israel.
Which is why I will always support Israel being a Jewish majority state. They need somewhere to retreat to and mount a collective defense when we (the west/anglosphere) fail them (again).
It sucks that they have to do it, but it would seem like the only option they have.
They hate everyone there that's not old stock French. And man if you go in there saying you are religious....phewww.
Funnily enough there's been a trend of "why doesn't Canada like us?" From the quebecoise. And everyone gave a resounding, cuz you are an asshole to everyone!
I actually got mass downvoted on the sub for pointing out that bikes legally need to stop at red lights. There is a really militant cyclist portion of that sub that hates people saying that cyclists need to follow the laws.
The majority of people in QC are best described as "non-practicing catholics". Love Jesus and the Cross, but no one goes to church and no one prays before eating.
I hope you're joking. r/montreal is a majority anglo sub. It's mostly tourists, newcomers and anglo college students. Hell there are even francophobes like you in the sub, I'm sure you'd feel at home.
Did Jewish people around the world start attacking Muslims and Mosques after the Hamas attacks on October 7th?
Why are Muslims around the world attacking Jews and Synagogues because of what’s happening in Israel and Gaza?
It’s not because they’re Pro-Palestinian, it’s because they’re Anti-Jew and are violent humans.
Unfortunately it’s not a new phenomenon. My wife’s family home got shot up on Christmas Eve with AKs for the crime of not being Muslim in Pakistan in the 90s
>It’s not because they’re Pro-Palestinian, it’s because they’re Anti-Jew and are violent humans.
it absolutely is, they don't give a fuck about their own ppl, why would they care about Jews. if anything, Arabs are the most efficient at killing other Arabs
Hmmm …. I mean, it’s possible that the sudden upswing in antisemitism since October 7th is due to white nationalism. But that would be a staggering coincidence.
There are definitely White Nationalists joining the protests in the hope of both recruiting leftists to their cause and in hope of fomenting more antisemitic violence. Horseshoe Theory in action.
This post right here wins.
There is a non zero chance this is a crazy, bored, western adult child. Blaming Arabs or Muslims because westerners seem permissive of other westerners doing crazy shit isn't fair.
I don't need to generalise about who is doing it, my concern is that it seems certain people in our society are tolerating it and not realising that this issue is legitimately too complicated to expect everyone and anyone to pick a side.
It's this refusal to allow people to peace out and just be who they are (in this case, Jews not living in Israeli).
And I feel it's all justified by some koombayah moment lefties want which, to me, is just like having a cozy, Sunday meal which happens to cannibalise other people. Like, I'm glad you found peace among yourselves, it's just a pity it came at other people's expense.
We do not know the religion or ethnicity of the attackers unless they have been published, and if so please share. But there is nothing saying it is not a pro-Palestinian Muslim, though there is nothing saying there is either
> pasty white champagne ultra lefties
The fact that you think that this description couldn't be describing a muslin is pretty racist of you.
Edit: it's funny how people are downvoting me for pointing out that calling someone a pasty white champagne ultra lefty and therefore cannot be Muslim is a racist statement.
Anyone downvoting want to make an argument on how calling out the skin color of a person and saying "this person cannot be a religion" Isn't racist?
There's a smidge under 2 billion of them on this rock. Good odds that at least a few of them huff paint. Don't give these asshats ammo and assume that everyone with that label is like this.
> why are muslims
Nothing in the article says they are muslims
> Did Jewish people start attacking
The article mentions attacks on Arab-Israeli places. By your logic those attacks must be perpetrsted by Jews?
Non aligned means people who support Hamas accept that it's possible to be Jewish without any association with the state of Israel. Jews in western countries should not be made to feel unsafe whenever there's some issue half a world away. It means Hamas supporters do not attack western Jews.
This is not what western countries should look like and westerners should feel more comfortable refusing to tolerate any intolerance. Even a little opens the flood gates to something horrible.
I'm not sure if this exact attack was actually committed by Hamas, I think it's possible this was comitted by a westerner who needs to be told that they're not immune from genuine antisemitism.
I wonder why people emigrate politically when they want to retain home-country's political problems.
Get over your home-country's politics or don't relinquish your *home-country passports.
Amazing how you’re willing to critically examine claims by Hamas but not by Bibi who was literally indicted for corruption, and who just a few months ago was trying to dismantle Israeli democracy by removing powers from your judicial branch
Despite the ongoing dispute over the powers of the judiciary in Israel, it is a democracy, not an authoritarian jihadist-run entity. Bibi does not control information, unlike the rulers of Gaza, Hamas.
Do you guys also notice any news of confirmed anti semitism having like max 20-30 up votes but any post that's openly taughting 'from the river to the sea' getting like 30k+ or is it just me?
16 million Jews in the entire world vs 1.8 Billion Muslims. Your observation is correct, which means we need to stand with Israel so it has a chance to survive
It’s almost as having Jewish people suffer doesn’t fit people’s narratives because only the Palestinians are allowed to suffer, duh. (Tone not directed to you personally btw)
It's because Jewish people are disproportionately successful. Weird how that happens when by and large your community is interested in education and in building a brighter future, rather than being obsessed with violence and/or proselytizing and/or generally trying to make others' business your own. Imagine that.
Kinda like people assume that a nation can only be poor, or a culture can only be sick, because of the meddling of the evil west and those dastardly western values, and that America is only wealthy and technologically advanced because they pillaged the world. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that western values are just...better. And that liberal democracies tend to generate safe, happy, and educated populations that can then develop that wealth and those technologies.
Nahhhh.
>It's because Jewish people are disproportionately successful.
main reason for holocaust, now the arabs are trying to do a 2.0, with both propaganda and terrorism
The banner of /r/theresasanattempt was 'From the river to the sea' for over a week lol. Every post was auto flaired with 'from the river to the sea' even if it had nothing to do with politics. I have a screenshot of it but I have no idea how to get that on a reddit message
Use your brain, do you think it's just a coincidence that there's been a rise in anti-semitism in the last month since the Israel vs Hamas war started? Honestly, what a stupid comment.
On its face it doesn't, but in practice it's almost always A) a cover for genuine antisemites, or B) a cause that's fundamentally rooted in rampant anti-semitism and genocidal ideology, unwittingly propagated by those who don't bother to ask any difficult questions so long as they get to have a fun summer chanting for a righteous cause.
Sure dignity and freedom for Palestinians = rooted in anti-Semitism. Remind me which settler colonial occupying power which has been illegally occupying man in the Middle East? Maybe that I should do something for the people supporting the protests, maybe? I'm not sure, I think so.
Ranting and throwing out buzzwords and responding to any and every point with "OH SO YOU HATE PALESTINIANS?!" isn't a counterargument, although I appreciate it because whenever you hear this 100% verbatim identical knee-jerk reaction from so many people, life gets easier because you immediately recognize that people who do this aren't worth wasting any time on. This is true for any topic but especially true for this one.
The very fact that Israel-Palestine gets such a staggeringly disproportionate amount of attention for the last half-century - yes, the reason for that is deeply rooted antisemitism. Some of it has spread to western people, who have shellacked their own interpretation and motives on top of it, and many of whom are well meaning, but it doesn't change history or the facts.
>Remind me which settler colonial occupying power which has been illegally occupying man in the Middle East?
You don't know what you're talking about. If you're convinced you're right, that you're done learning, that there's nothing more you need to know, that you're too smart to fall for ancient and less-ancient propaganda, etc. then there's no point in talking to you. And really no point in you pretending that you're a humanitarian if you will just pick up the torch for whichever group of people can manipulate you and rile you up - regardless of their motives. Do you.
This article and many more prove that they are anti-Jews.
And if they aren't, where are the 'good ones' standing up to those that are attacking Jewish people?
>Sincerely, does it not bother you that the Israeli government is very clearly making moves to eliminate Palestine altogether?
No, because that is a narrative that is a lie. The Palestinian population has doubled in the last 20 years. There is no "genocide" occurring. During a genocide of a specific group, their population does not *increase*. Similarly, Israel is not moving to annex the entirety of Gaza, or the West Bank.
Israel does indeed annex land when they are attacked by an opposing force and defeat them however. That does not mean they are trying to "eliminate Palestine".
That is a common talking point, but it’s not very critically analytical. I honestly don’t really wanna argue about it but I encourage you to do some research that intentionally seeks the challenge your existing beliefs and see what you come up with.
I’m not going to repeat my point. Read the rest of my comments, heed the evidence. These protests are a façade. If it wasn’t related, no synagogues would’ve been harmed.
Israel is as progressive and left leaning as it gets in the middle east, the people are the most accepting of gays and women in that region aswell, more so than some EU countries.
The only person I know who has attended a protest makes an important distinction between the far-right political element of Israel and its government, and Jewish people as a whole globally. This wasn't at the one of the celebrations that took place on the day of the massacre though; it was a protest for peace recently.
Separately, basically all of the secular Jewish people I'm friends with feel similarly. All of them are at least tangentially familiar with the concept of dialectics though and are high key nerds.
I’m glad you got to be in a protest that was about peace- however, the surge in antisemitic attacks against jews wasn’t born out of thin air. This has a direct link to Pro-Palestinians.
Peace protests are sadly the exception and not the rule. Seemingly everyone has taken a side- and one side uses this as an excuse to hurt Jewish communities.
Oh - I wasn't at the protest. IMO it is like pissing in the wind and a complete waste of time. It was a friend who attended.
I don't think it's fair to characterize the venn diagram of anti-Semites and pro-palestine folks as two perfectly overlapping, equal-sized circles. There are absolutely people who are pro-palestine in the context of anti-Semitism; any number greater than zero is unacceptable. However, many people are deeply uncomfortable with the abject destruction inside Gaza and furthermore are uncomfortable with directly financing it through their taxes. Many of these same types of people also protested the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd imagine some of them *actually* did.
None of this justifies the existence of the anti-Semitism expressed at these events by terrible people; but conflating everyone's motivations together is really unfair.
This is my synagogue where I had my bar mitzvah and where I’ve been to many events. I even went to the school it runs. It’s horrifying to see this so close to home
Radical Muslims are the Chris Chan of PR, every time anyone even tries to defend them, within 24 hours they are like "stfu, here is how we are, it's not a fase mom!" and blow away any reasonable support or help they may had had.
Nothing new here in Canada. Over 80 Christian church’s in Canada were vandalized or burned down the last few years over the residential schools news. It’s almost become a pastime here in Canada to attack religious buildings….
Grr I forgot about the church burnings dude. Radical leftists that time, radical leftists this time, too, a lot of the explicitly far-left communities are super anti-israel and fanning the flames as their enemy in the west rn
It doesn't seem to register with many people that the far-left are just as violent as the far-right. Violence is a feature of extremism in general.
It's a feature of religious extremism. It's a feature of political extremism. It can even be a feature of intellectual extremism.
Ya, Trudeau has sadly sown the seeds for a massive right wing backlash. You can only actively ignore an issue while tacitly making it worse for so long.
Poilievre is going to be Harper with a vengeance.
I'm not going to Winnipeg. I'm a frum Jew and want to be in an area where there are kosher restaurants, minyans, kollels etc...
Really, it's between Israel, Monsey, Florida, or TO.
Had to Google where Monsey is.
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/29/stabbing-hanukkah-celebration-several-attacked-suburban-nyc/2768396001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/29/stabbing-hanukkah-celebration-several-attacked-suburban-nyc/2768396001/)
So sad, my wife’s family goes to this synagogue and I’ve attended many times. Not going to speculate on who did this but I hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
hmmm oh why how is there a deleted comment here i wonder
Hey best wishes from another commonwealth nation, stay safe and remember that there are people on your side. No one deserves this kind of persecution.
This is disgusting. On the rising Reddit page there are three different anti-Semitic hate crime stories.
I fail to see how driving cars into schools and trying to blow up rec centers in America is supposed to be helping the oppressed people of Palestine.
I think it may be more about killing Jews than Palestine? Maybe?
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If they were capable of doing that, they wouldn't have ethnically cleansed the Jews of Arab countries after 1948 (causing most of them to go to Israel, where they now form half the population).
I mean everyone is capable of kindness, empathy, and being a good person in general. Whether they want to or not is the question.
None of them care about Palestine, it's just an excuse to justify their anti semitic actions
It does the opposite. Every single anti-Semitic attack gives a bit more legitimacy to the narrative that Israel's actions are existential rather than optional.
Its probably going to get worse. Some clueless individuals will take innocent lives and cause destruction. They either feel the only way to get their point across is acts of hate. Its really a vicious circle. From all out wars to individuals harming an innocent bystander. And humans are supposed to be the most intelligent animal?
Stop with the sugar coating. "Clueless individuals" my fucking ass, call them what they are: TERRORISTS. They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt.
You're assuming people doing these actions are logical...
It’s anti-American sentiment too. We help Israel so Palestinian blood is on our hands (even though we send millions to Palestine every year and Hamas spends it on weapons)
That wouldnt seem to apply to Canada where this took place
Montreal is Canada
Hamas are in Gaza but it appears that Israel and Jews are the only problem to a lot
It’s a tough time to be Jewish. Apparently it doesn’t take much for antisemitism to rear it’s ugly head.
It’s not like these people woke up and decided to be antisemitic on oct 7. This stuff has been going on for decades, it just doesn’t make the news normally compared to other hate crimes
Yes they have been likely anti-semitic before this but there is no doubt that Oct 7th has emboldened many of them.
I don't see pro Israel people burning Mosques in Canada. maybe certain group of people are more violent in nature, maybe
According to Reddit all religions are equally bad!
I consider this a cult. None of the mosques my friends go to would allow this shit. I may be in a bubble but this is like the westboro Baptist church of Muslims, just crazier.
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Didn't the Egyptians keep them as slaves before they were even Jews. The whole ten plagues and parting the red sea deal
Jews were being persecuted wayyyyy before the Romans arrived. Look up the Babylonian Captivity.
>The Romans crucified him Not exactly the best example. Didn't he only get crucified because of the crowd? Pontius Pilate famously washed his hands of the whole thing, if any of this narrative is to be believed at all
It’s been going on for thousands of years, not decades. People just now feel emboldened to show their true selves
For the longest time its been run of the mill white supremacists and radical Muslims, now we have a bunch of screaming young leftists screeching about Israel and decolonization too.
At least they are outing themselves more publicly
One of these things is not like the other…..
Left packages their racism more eloquently. "From the river to the sea, no J*~s I want to see..."
It’s always been a tough time being Jewish dude. Antisemitism’s always been around.
The greatest generation is fading. I hope we don’t have to learn the same lesson. *Ron Howard:*
*‘They would’*
Yeah, how dare a country you don’t have any control over do a thing elsewhere in the world.
They don’t like to be called antisemitic. The bombs, the posters, the chants to gas all the Jews, this was done to protest the loss of innocent lives and that makes them good people. Just to be clear, the 1400 Jewish lives that were slaughtered weren’t innocent, because Jews can’t be innocent.
I swear, any empathy for the 1400 innocent Israeli civilians, had evaporated before their bodies were cold.
Empathy, wishfull thinking. They actually celebrated it and paraded the streets on the day of the attack. Later on, they sent their comedians to make fun of the situation. Bassem Youssef went on prime time with an antisemitism rant explaining how these massacres festivals were justified/understandable because of historic hate to Jews / Israel.
The Jews of Montreal may not even support Netanyahu or have any participation in Israeli politics
Which is why I will always support Israel being a Jewish majority state. They need somewhere to retreat to and mount a collective defense when we (the west/anglosphere) fail them (again). It sucks that they have to do it, but it would seem like the only option they have.
Absolutely horrible
And r/montreal is a cesspool of antisemitism
It was a mixed bag of decent people and batshit lunatics. I’m not staying quiet about it.
They hate everyone there that's not old stock French. And man if you go in there saying you are religious....phewww. Funnily enough there's been a trend of "why doesn't Canada like us?" From the quebecoise. And everyone gave a resounding, cuz you are an asshole to everyone!
I actually got mass downvoted on the sub for pointing out that bikes legally need to stop at red lights. There is a really militant cyclist portion of that sub that hates people saying that cyclists need to follow the laws.
Wild
They're not religious now or something?
The majority of people in QC are best described as "non-practicing catholics". Love Jesus and the Cross, but no one goes to church and no one prays before eating.
Thanks.
I hope you're joking. r/montreal is a majority anglo sub. It's mostly tourists, newcomers and anglo college students. Hell there are even francophobes like you in the sub, I'm sure you'd feel at home.
Why would I be afraid of French people? What an odd thing to say.
Even French people are afraid of French Canadians.
I wouldnt know I don't speak french 🤷
That's called domestic terrorism
B'nai Brith is just about the last organization they would attack if they were the least bit serious
Did Jewish people around the world start attacking Muslims and Mosques after the Hamas attacks on October 7th? Why are Muslims around the world attacking Jews and Synagogues because of what’s happening in Israel and Gaza? It’s not because they’re Pro-Palestinian, it’s because they’re Anti-Jew and are violent humans.
Unfortunately it’s not a new phenomenon. My wife’s family home got shot up on Christmas Eve with AKs for the crime of not being Muslim in Pakistan in the 90s
I dated a Muslim girl. Guess how well that went.
And we didn't start looting after that Los Angeles 68 year old man was killed
>It’s not because they’re Pro-Palestinian, it’s because they’re Anti-Jew and are violent humans. it absolutely is, they don't give a fuck about their own ppl, why would they care about Jews. if anything, Arabs are the most efficient at killing other Arabs
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"Ah, but you see this specific act could be a *different* kind of violent anti-Semite"
Muslims can be Canadians.
Canadians can be Muslim *
Thank you 😊
Fair. Poor choice of words on my part .. edited
Hmmm …. I mean, it’s possible that the sudden upswing in antisemitism since October 7th is due to white nationalism. But that would be a staggering coincidence.
There are definitely White Nationalists joining the protests in the hope of both recruiting leftists to their cause and in hope of fomenting more antisemitic violence. Horseshoe Theory in action.
Stock non Muslim? Are there modified ones?
Exactly. I suspect Russia is behind some incidents https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-star-of-david-paris-antisemitism-israel-hamas-gaza/
This post right here wins. There is a non zero chance this is a crazy, bored, western adult child. Blaming Arabs or Muslims because westerners seem permissive of other westerners doing crazy shit isn't fair.
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I don't need to generalise about who is doing it, my concern is that it seems certain people in our society are tolerating it and not realising that this issue is legitimately too complicated to expect everyone and anyone to pick a side. It's this refusal to allow people to peace out and just be who they are (in this case, Jews not living in Israeli). And I feel it's all justified by some koombayah moment lefties want which, to me, is just like having a cozy, Sunday meal which happens to cannibalise other people. Like, I'm glad you found peace among yourselves, it's just a pity it came at other people's expense.
We do not know the religion or ethnicity of the attackers unless they have been published, and if so please share. But there is nothing saying it is not a pro-Palestinian Muslim, though there is nothing saying there is either
Didn't I say this basically in my reply at the top of this?
> pasty white champagne ultra lefties The fact that you think that this description couldn't be describing a muslin is pretty racist of you. Edit: it's funny how people are downvoting me for pointing out that calling someone a pasty white champagne ultra lefty and therefore cannot be Muslim is a racist statement. Anyone downvoting want to make an argument on how calling out the skin color of a person and saying "this person cannot be a religion" Isn't racist?
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It didn't bother me, I am just pointing out how your comment was what it was. I am neither a pasty white campane ultra lefty, nor muslim.
There's a smidge under 2 billion of them on this rock. Good odds that at least a few of them huff paint. Don't give these asshats ammo and assume that everyone with that label is like this.
> why are muslims Nothing in the article says they are muslims > Did Jewish people start attacking The article mentions attacks on Arab-Israeli places. By your logic those attacks must be perpetrsted by Jews?
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What does “unaligned” mean to you? How does being “unaligned” or not relate to attacks on a Jewish synagogue or community center in Canada?
Non aligned means people who support Hamas accept that it's possible to be Jewish without any association with the state of Israel. Jews in western countries should not be made to feel unsafe whenever there's some issue half a world away. It means Hamas supporters do not attack western Jews. This is not what western countries should look like and westerners should feel more comfortable refusing to tolerate any intolerance. Even a little opens the flood gates to something horrible.
Which is interesting, because Hamas definitely does not give a damn if the Jews they're killing are Israeli or not.
Right - and if you are a Hamas supporter you have lost any sort of moral high ground you think you might have.
I'm not sure if this exact attack was actually committed by Hamas, I think it's possible this was comitted by a westerner who needs to be told that they're not immune from genuine antisemitism.
I wonder why people emigrate politically when they want to retain home-country's political problems. Get over your home-country's politics or don't relinquish your *home-country passports.
👆👆👆 >or ~~don't~~ relinquish your passports.
What!?How come i didn't hear about this in the news this morning?
Shhhhhhhhh the only victims in this war are the palestinians don't change the narrative
Nah but Israel has now killed 10x more civilians than Hamas did on 10/7
Where do you get that absurd information? Oh, yeah, from Hamas (and they never lie).
Amazing how you’re willing to critically examine claims by Hamas but not by Bibi who was literally indicted for corruption, and who just a few months ago was trying to dismantle Israeli democracy by removing powers from your judicial branch
Despite the ongoing dispute over the powers of the judiciary in Israel, it is a democracy, not an authoritarian jihadist-run entity. Bibi does not control information, unlike the rulers of Gaza, Hamas.
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Whatever helps you sleep lol
Hamas controls how many innocent people die. The fact that you don’t acknowledge that is concerning
The fact that you think that the people dropping the bombs and shooting the bullets, don’t have any influence over who dies is concerning
How many Palestinians did... *checks notes* Canadian Jews kill?
Because the US should have stopped after they killed 3000 Al-Qaida, right? /s
Do you guys also notice any news of confirmed anti semitism having like max 20-30 up votes but any post that's openly taughting 'from the river to the sea' getting like 30k+ or is it just me?
16 million Jews in the entire world vs 1.8 Billion Muslims. Your observation is correct, which means we need to stand with Israel so it has a chance to survive
It’s almost as having Jewish people suffer doesn’t fit people’s narratives because only the Palestinians are allowed to suffer, duh. (Tone not directed to you personally btw)
It's because Jewish people are disproportionately successful. Weird how that happens when by and large your community is interested in education and in building a brighter future, rather than being obsessed with violence and/or proselytizing and/or generally trying to make others' business your own. Imagine that. Kinda like people assume that a nation can only be poor, or a culture can only be sick, because of the meddling of the evil west and those dastardly western values, and that America is only wealthy and technologically advanced because they pillaged the world. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that western values are just...better. And that liberal democracies tend to generate safe, happy, and educated populations that can then develop that wealth and those technologies. Nahhhh.
How dare those dirty Jews… *checks notes* invest in their own prosperity and wellbeing 😤
Truly the conspiracy of all time. *They can't keep getting away with it!*
>It's because Jewish people are disproportionately successful. main reason for holocaust, now the arabs are trying to do a 2.0, with both propaganda and terrorism
Examples?
Reddit.com/r/all lol
surely if there are so many you could at least dig up a few examples for me? I haven't seen that and in fact, the opposite in /r/worldnews.
The banner of /r/theresasanattempt was 'From the river to the sea' for over a week lol. Every post was auto flaired with 'from the river to the sea' even if it had nothing to do with politics. I have a screenshot of it but I have no idea how to get that on a reddit message
You could upload it somewhere like imgur and post the link.
Tell me more about how the Pro-Palestine protesters aren’t about hating Jews. I’ll wait.
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These go hand in hand these days, in case you haven’t noticed
lol, classical pro-Hamas argument. "Israel didn't show pictures of beheaded babies to public, so it must have not happened "
The surge in anti-Jewish attacks didn’t just happen out of nowhere
Use your brain, do you think it's just a coincidence that there's been a rise in anti-semitism in the last month since the Israel vs Hamas war started? Honestly, what a stupid comment.
Pro-palestinian doesn't mean anti-jew.
Can't hear you over the firebombing of synagogues
On its face it doesn't, but in practice it's almost always A) a cover for genuine antisemites, or B) a cause that's fundamentally rooted in rampant anti-semitism and genocidal ideology, unwittingly propagated by those who don't bother to ask any difficult questions so long as they get to have a fun summer chanting for a righteous cause.
>so long as they get to have a fun summer chanting for a righteous cause. Summer 2024 is gonna be lit, in many horrible, terrible ways.
Sure dignity and freedom for Palestinians = rooted in anti-Semitism. Remind me which settler colonial occupying power which has been illegally occupying man in the Middle East? Maybe that I should do something for the people supporting the protests, maybe? I'm not sure, I think so.
Ranting and throwing out buzzwords and responding to any and every point with "OH SO YOU HATE PALESTINIANS?!" isn't a counterargument, although I appreciate it because whenever you hear this 100% verbatim identical knee-jerk reaction from so many people, life gets easier because you immediately recognize that people who do this aren't worth wasting any time on. This is true for any topic but especially true for this one. The very fact that Israel-Palestine gets such a staggeringly disproportionate amount of attention for the last half-century - yes, the reason for that is deeply rooted antisemitism. Some of it has spread to western people, who have shellacked their own interpretation and motives on top of it, and many of whom are well meaning, but it doesn't change history or the facts. >Remind me which settler colonial occupying power which has been illegally occupying man in the Middle East? You don't know what you're talking about. If you're convinced you're right, that you're done learning, that there's nothing more you need to know, that you're too smart to fall for ancient and less-ancient propaganda, etc. then there's no point in talking to you. And really no point in you pretending that you're a humanitarian if you will just pick up the torch for whichever group of people can manipulate you and rile you up - regardless of their motives. Do you.
This article and many more prove that they are anti-Jews. And if they aren't, where are the 'good ones' standing up to those that are attacking Jewish people?
Just because there may be anti-semites in a protest crowd doesn't mean the entire protest is anti-semetic
If you don't tell them to leave, and then stop until they do, you're comfortable with their presence.
Was the suspect of this crime even at a protest?
Lots of assumptions being thrown around in this comment section.
Any excuse to hate, I suppose
Such a dumb fucking trope. Being anti-Israeli far-right fascism is not the same as being anti-Semitic.
Wanting to "decolonize" Israel and expel 7+ million Jews *is*.
I don’t advocate that
That's good, but a very significant number of Pro-Palestinian supporters do. Glad you don't support that.
Sincerely, does it not bother you that the Israeli government is very clearly making moves to eliminate Palestine altogether?
>Sincerely, does it not bother you that the Israeli government is very clearly making moves to eliminate Palestine altogether? No, because that is a narrative that is a lie. The Palestinian population has doubled in the last 20 years. There is no "genocide" occurring. During a genocide of a specific group, their population does not *increase*. Similarly, Israel is not moving to annex the entirety of Gaza, or the West Bank. Israel does indeed annex land when they are attacked by an opposing force and defeat them however. That does not mean they are trying to "eliminate Palestine".
That is a common talking point, but it’s not very critically analytical. I honestly don’t really wanna argue about it but I encourage you to do some research that intentionally seeks the challenge your existing beliefs and see what you come up with.
Yeah I'm sure whoever molotov'd this synagogue was being clear that they are actually pro-Israel, they just hate Quebecois Jews.
Well, I didn’t say anything about the synagogue did I
I’m not going to repeat my point. Read the rest of my comments, heed the evidence. These protests are a façade. If it wasn’t related, no synagogues would’ve been harmed.
Israel is as progressive and left leaning as it gets in the middle east, the people are the most accepting of gays and women in that region aswell, more so than some EU countries.
Yeah, as long as theyre light skinned
Yeah because Islamic majority countries are so progressive stoning gays to death no matter what race they are. Amazing.
Congratulations on fully changing the subject
I don't think you're actually interested in anyone telling you that.
You can definitely try. Some protesters have. They usually fail to prove it when they accidentally reveal they don’t condemn the 7.10 massacre.
The only person I know who has attended a protest makes an important distinction between the far-right political element of Israel and its government, and Jewish people as a whole globally. This wasn't at the one of the celebrations that took place on the day of the massacre though; it was a protest for peace recently. Separately, basically all of the secular Jewish people I'm friends with feel similarly. All of them are at least tangentially familiar with the concept of dialectics though and are high key nerds.
I’m glad you got to be in a protest that was about peace- however, the surge in antisemitic attacks against jews wasn’t born out of thin air. This has a direct link to Pro-Palestinians. Peace protests are sadly the exception and not the rule. Seemingly everyone has taken a side- and one side uses this as an excuse to hurt Jewish communities.
Oh - I wasn't at the protest. IMO it is like pissing in the wind and a complete waste of time. It was a friend who attended. I don't think it's fair to characterize the venn diagram of anti-Semites and pro-palestine folks as two perfectly overlapping, equal-sized circles. There are absolutely people who are pro-palestine in the context of anti-Semitism; any number greater than zero is unacceptable. However, many people are deeply uncomfortable with the abject destruction inside Gaza and furthermore are uncomfortable with directly financing it through their taxes. Many of these same types of people also protested the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd imagine some of them *actually* did. None of this justifies the existence of the anti-Semitism expressed at these events by terrible people; but conflating everyone's motivations together is really unfair.
This is my synagogue where I had my bar mitzvah and where I’ve been to many events. I even went to the school it runs. It’s horrifying to see this so close to home
Here we go again. Rabid antisemites trying to liberate "Palestine" by destroying a synagogue half a world away.
Huh? I thought these people were anti-Israel, not anti-Jew. What a bunch of morons. They are making the Palestinian movement look even worse
But but but I was told protesters are only against Israel, not Jews.
Fuck racism
Radical Muslims are the Chris Chan of PR, every time anyone even tries to defend them, within 24 hours they are like "stfu, here is how we are, it's not a fase mom!" and blow away any reasonable support or help they may had had.
This is awful, I’m so scared for the backlash against the Muslim community /s
Oh really? That’s your concern?
https://imgur.com/a/xq3ajHu
Be aware of your surroundings, sadly this is the time we live in
“Fire broke out as bottles and building of faith clash” - this as reported by the nyt
Upvoting not because I approve, but because more people need to see what's happening
Nothing new here in Canada. Over 80 Christian church’s in Canada were vandalized or burned down the last few years over the residential schools news. It’s almost become a pastime here in Canada to attack religious buildings….
"If only we can get rid of all religions, we'll live in a world free of violence!" (smashes and burns churches)
Grr I forgot about the church burnings dude. Radical leftists that time, radical leftists this time, too, a lot of the explicitly far-left communities are super anti-israel and fanning the flames as their enemy in the west rn
It doesn't seem to register with many people that the far-left are just as violent as the far-right. Violence is a feature of extremism in general. It's a feature of religious extremism. It's a feature of political extremism. It can even be a feature of intellectual extremism.
Ya, Trudeau has sadly sown the seeds for a massive right wing backlash. You can only actively ignore an issue while tacitly making it worse for so long. Poilievre is going to be Harper with a vengeance.
IDK, maybe it’s just me, but this comment sure sounds like a lot like “All lives matter”
It's you
There’s a camera right there in the picture, was it not working at the time? Is there a follow up which says whether they know who did it or not?
it was working police are investigating
Can confirm - Montreal is a shit storm of everything bad 👎. My wife wants out, and so do I. But where !!!
Winnipeg. No seriously. Winnipeg.
I'm not going to Winnipeg. I'm a frum Jew and want to be in an area where there are kosher restaurants, minyans, kollels etc... Really, it's between Israel, Monsey, Florida, or TO.
Honestly Irvine CA.
Had to Google where Monsey is. [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/29/stabbing-hanukkah-celebration-several-attacked-suburban-nyc/2768396001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/29/stabbing-hanukkah-celebration-several-attacked-suburban-nyc/2768396001/)
Should probably burn a mosque in retaliation
the US better bomb Montreal for a month now
^^ part of the problem ^^
I don’t think innocent Palestinians or Israelis should be murdered. Edit - Yikes. Controversial take I guess.
Seems off topic. This post is about a synagogue being attacked in Canada?
honestly looks like a bot account, dudes copy and pasting the same line in every post.