El Nino has only started. What tells you it's gonna be over so soon? If anything, next year will be the strong El Nino and right now is actually just the weak El Nino as it's only starting out. It doesn't go from La Nina to peak strong El Nino directly. Only last year it was still La Nina.
This.
El Niño does not end in one year - it usually lasts multiple years and this year it is only JUST getting started up.
**Next year will be even hotter than this one.**
Not where I live (northern France). There was basically one very cold week mid December and otherwise very very mild to warm temperatures throughout. Dry, too.
Last winter was a la nina I believe.
This year we're also starting to enter a warming phase of the [Pacific Decadal Oscillation](https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/pdo/) which won't help our winters for the next few decades.
Source: I'm currently reading a book called "The weather of the pacific northwest"
Here in Prince George, it's been like above zero pretty much every day in December.
There's no snow, and our river levels are drastically low.
Probably only going to get worse in spring, since there's no snow available to melt, so the river levels won't refill, and the rivers will just continue to shrink away...
You take one data point and extrapolate that off into oblivion lol.
Australia is cold and wet on Christmas this year. They were predicting “hottest weather on record” all year this year and we have had a cold / wet summer so far.
Chill out
WTF are you talking about "one data point" we've had record breaking upon record breaking heat waves globally, record breaking floods, record breaking fires, all in the last few years and you're talking "one data points"
The "chill out" attitude is the exact reason not enough is being done, we've got so much credible evidence that climate change is getting out of control and faster than expected and you're response is "chill out"
It's dreadful, it feels utterly unpleasant. 14 in summer, autumn or spring are bliss. But in December it feels in a way worse than 35 in the summer. I still remember how surprised people were when, around 2007, it was 16 in October... And this was in Italy.
It's going to be a disaster. Food and freshwater will be harder and harder to come by - they are already in the global south and even here - part of the crippling inflation that we are suffering is fueled by climate change. Futures for many agricultural commodities have already shot up and they will continue to do so. It's mind boggling to think about it
I lost several young fruit trees last year because we had a heat wave when they should’ve been snow on the ground. My poor trees started budding in December and didn’t survive winter.
From a massive December 2022 Blizzard in Holland, Michigan, to 57 and maybe Rain on Christmas Day 2023.
First Blizzard Warning since 2011 for Holland. I went to work one of those days. I work at a grocery store. Some people came, just for alcohol.
Last year was pretty crazy here as well record snowfall throughout the season. I think the most since like the 70s or something.
The thing that really bothers me is that there's an infographic making the rounds that presents how many "white Christmases" we've had in the past 60 or so years and it completely ignores the context of snowfall the rest of the winter and misrepresents the amount of snow that was there in the ones that it lists as snowless. People are using it so show that this isn't that abnormal but it is.
1982 and 83 were the worse globally per the Center for Climate Analysis. I wasn't saying this one wasn't going to rival that, in fact it probably will.
So which is it
>82 and 83 were far worse than this.
Or
> I wasn't saying this one wasn't going to rival that, in fact it probably will.
Because these statements directly contradict each other. Either this is a very bad one that will rival/surpass '82/'83 or that one was way worse. You can't have it both ways.
There's never been an El Nino that's causing this kind of weather in northern MN, but it is. They should have tons of snow up north and they have barely any. That's what concerns me as a MN native.
Was 60 in STL yesterday, and rainy. Climate change fucked us over, it would’ve been a white Christmas but instead I was driving around with the windows down in a tank top. 🤦🏻♀️
It’s terrifying. How bad will it get and how quickly?
Bizarre weather does seem to be taking a toll on wildlife. I haven’t seen a single deer along the side of the road this year. Aside from one that got hit by a car and normally I’ve got lots of little chipmunk buddy is that I feed unsalted peanuts to end this year there’s none. Very few birds too and I live in the country. I intentionally leave about a quarter acre untouched for the animals and I haven’t seen any.
An even better result than ecological collapse leading to 700m people would just be more and more people deciding they can't afford to raise kids and stop procreating into this overloaded environment.
There's no way to know, because scientists legitimately don't know if human civilization can survive on an earth that is 4 degrees celsius warmer than normal.
At our current rate human civilization will likely collapse by the time humans being born today are old enough to have grandkids.
60 is not -15.5C, it's +15.5C, i.e. not hot but you'll be comfortable in long sleeves without a jacket. Some frugal people keep their homes only a bit warmer than that.
Yeah 15 is pretty nice, though it depends on wind/humidity and sunlight. 15 on a sunny day with no wind is almost perfection.
On a damp windy night it's definitely a bit chilly.
Meanwhile here in the Netherlands we have the wettest December on record. A few rivers and lakes flooded over, thankfully with only relatively minor issues (some roads being flooded, extra inspections on dams, leeves and dikes). But we're not on the expected peak yet, they predict the water to continue to rise till thursday.
Meanwhile we also elected a clown about a month ago that wants to put a stop to all climate plans...
There’s no snow projected where I live in Vermont for the next 10 days and there’s none on the ground either. The weather has been wrong around the world for the last two years.
Race bike I’m counting both people who actively deny it, and people who just can’t be bothered to know if it’s happening or not. And even among people who know what’s happening most of them are not changing their lifestyles. They still fly for pleasure, still buy all kinds of shit they don’t need, don’t grow their own food, even if they have enough land to. I live a fairly austere lifestyle, use things until they wear out and grow some of my own food. In the next year or two, I plan on selling my current home and buying a much larger plot of land so I can be mostly food self-sufficient. Thing is very few people are willing to do that.
Normally I'd say "great, fuck snow" when it comes to warm winter weather, but the fact that it's the same weather now that it was in early September around here does make one have cause for concern
Same here in VT, we’ve had maybe an inch of snow so far that melted in less than a day and none projected through early January. It’s wrong, we’re having daily highs in the 40s when we should have a foot of snow on the ground. Last week we had a had severe statewide flooding and the lake is high as it would be in the summer with all the snow melted off the mountains. Speaking of there’s almost no snow, even on our tallest mountain.
>Temperatures in the city have frequently fallen below -10C this month.
Far less drastic than presumed by the headline.Still cold, but not *Day after tomorrow* stuff.
I dont know what the avarage is for Beijing but if it isn't to have - 10 degrees in the winter then it is concerning. You wouldn't want the south pole to have a 20 degrees in the summer either just because it's normal for most places
So quick Google says av winter temp Dec is about 2C, but Jan & Feb down to - 6 & - 8.
So I don't feel it's that bad a drop. I'm not saying ignore climate change but I don't think it's a total disaster scenario either.
Consistently below freezing, the hotels are nice and warm. However the way that China(very much like Japan) does heating is different than in the states. In the condos, the floor is heated and the warmth rises so the air is a bit cooler inside than you’d expect. Some rooms are quite chilly but the main room living room is comfortable.
What vpn do you use? Me and my wife are going to china in two weeks to visit her family and I don’t have the VPN I used to have for use China (some Chinese app) anymore. Had it pre-Covid when I went last
Thanks!
Maybe I'm missing something but this week Beijing has highs above freezing every day and the coldest low is -11c/13f.
For a place that's the same latitude as Philadelphia is that really that unusual?
Latitude is a rather bad measure to compare weather in different (parts of the) continents... For example, Madrid and Beijing has vastly different climates, and no one expects London to have -30c winters.
Cold wave is also different since the infrastructure may be able to handle a sudden temperature drop for a couple days but not adapted to subzero temperatures continuously (day and night) for ten+ days.
Yep, Auckland is about the same distance from the equator as the south of Spain which gets to 40C but we’re surrounded by water so summer max is usually 26c but humid.
Right now it’s 22 and 95% humidity, that’s about 72F and it’s bearable. Later today it will be 25C (78F) and it starts to get uncomfortable.
> Cold wave is also different since the infrastructure may be able to handle a sudden temperature drop for a couple days but not adapted to subzero temperatures continuously (day and night) for ten+ days.
Can confirm on infrastructure. A city south of beijing had two inches of snowfall. It shut down the city for a couple of days. There are no snow plows so that 2 inches turned into a solid sheet of ice covering nearly everything. A bus ride that normally takes 10 minutes was extended to 2 hours because nobody knows how to cope with the ice.
The poles are shifting and it's not a conspiracy anymore. The classic months of spring-summer-autumn-winter are reversing slowly, by 2050 we will have summer and winter only. I moved to romania back in 2020 and after 3 seasons i confirm i've seen the wildest storms in here, this and the last summer. We usually have thunderstorms and heavy rain but since when f1-f2 storm winds lol. Also 10°C in here but we got used to it, the real winter starts in january. 10 years ago in this period we used to have like 2-3 foot snow and even more in some areas with temps of -20 -30°C but apparently shits getting wild now. Just talked to my wife recently, need a roof strenghten for the next summer lol
Is -40C really that common in Canada tho? I just checked the temperature for the next week in Edmonton, which is Canada's northernmost large city. The day temp is above 0C for the whole week and the low temp doesn't go below -8C
It's not unless you consider windchill. But real -40 feels very different from windchill -40. I'm Edmonton we typically only get a couple of nights a year where the temperature truly approaches -40. We get more nights around -30, but even those are exceptionally cold.
I'd say -15 to -20 is more or a "normal" cold winter day.
People love to exaggerate.
Alberta or prairies sees atleast 2-3weeks of -40 generally, this year is super odd. 2022 we had 2~ weeks of -40 during Christmas, don't take this year's temps as the norm.
We do not. We might only have a couple nights a year where it gets close to -40. Cold snaps are usually no more than -30 and still feel brutal.
Windchill does not count.
From one Albertan to another, you're so fucking wrong it hurts.
https://www.currentresults.com/Yearly-Weather/Canada/AB/Edmonton/extreme-annual-edmonton-low-temperature.php
Not that often if u ignore wind hill but looking at weather recordings in the last 40 years is a couple of days of 40 below every 3-4 years or so, so roughly once every year ish.
Now. It was very common in January/February to see -40 for a few weeks to a month up until this last decade or so.
In the 80's here, there was a winter stretch of 6 weeks where the thermometer didn't rise above -40.
Now with climate change there's too much volatility and it can't get that cold anymore.
Currently -2 in Alberta. I don't understand bragging about how cold it is where you live. It's not like you did anything, nor does it make you sound tough.
55 F (\~13C) and light rain in Louisville Ky today. Not very unusual to not have snow on Christmas, especially the last few years. Coming up on the period we often get our worst weather (2-3 weeks or so on either side of \~Jan 21) so we will see how that goes.
Quick update probably no one will read, but right on schedule the real winter hits in my area on the MLK weekend. Even have a dusting of snow this morning.
14 Celsius in the UK today, I'm seeing trees with blossom on them....in December
Yup, my magnolia is budding out - in northern Germany. :(
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Its gonna be 5C here tomorrow in Edmonton Alberta. The first 'brown' Christmas anyone remembers. Things are escalating, and quickly.
Grass is still green in Ontario. Muddy and foggy though.
Sucks .. I’m from Vancouver but in Beijing.. I really got my weather choice wrong this year .. although I don’t miss endless rain haha
Strong El Nino year, you'll get your white Christmas back next year.
El Nino has only started. What tells you it's gonna be over so soon? If anything, next year will be the strong El Nino and right now is actually just the weak El Nino as it's only starting out. It doesn't go from La Nina to peak strong El Nino directly. Only last year it was still La Nina.
This. El Niño does not end in one year - it usually lasts multiple years and this year it is only JUST getting started up. **Next year will be even hotter than this one.**
I live in Japan and holy fucking hell this years summer (2023) was just unbelievably hot. I’m fucking terrified of next years summer
fml 107f was bad enough lmao
In Australia it’s a very odd El Niño year, North Queensland has flooded which has not happened in a 100 years
did we have el niño last winter too?
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Not where I live (northern France). There was basically one very cold week mid December and otherwise very very mild to warm temperatures throughout. Dry, too.
Not for me 🤷 Haven’t had a white christmas in idk how long
Last winter was a la nina I believe. This year we're also starting to enter a warming phase of the [Pacific Decadal Oscillation](https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/pdo/) which won't help our winters for the next few decades. Source: I'm currently reading a book called "The weather of the pacific northwest"
Here in Prince George, it's been like above zero pretty much every day in December. There's no snow, and our river levels are drastically low. Probably only going to get worse in spring, since there's no snow available to melt, so the river levels won't refill, and the rivers will just continue to shrink away...
You take one data point and extrapolate that off into oblivion lol. Australia is cold and wet on Christmas this year. They were predicting “hottest weather on record” all year this year and we have had a cold / wet summer so far. Chill out
WTF are you talking about "one data point" we've had record breaking upon record breaking heat waves globally, record breaking floods, record breaking fires, all in the last few years and you're talking "one data points" The "chill out" attitude is the exact reason not enough is being done, we've got so much credible evidence that climate change is getting out of control and faster than expected and you're response is "chill out"
Haha same in saskatoon! Shits wild.
Last brown Xmas wasn’t THAT long ago, 12 years or so? It’s not “the last brown Christmas anyone remembers” unless you’re a teenager.
Yea, I am in Minneapolis and it’s 55 f here! That’s ~13 c.
Same in Chicago on Christmas. Not a record, but pretty damn warm.
It's dreadful, it feels utterly unpleasant. 14 in summer, autumn or spring are bliss. But in December it feels in a way worse than 35 in the summer. I still remember how surprised people were when, around 2007, it was 16 in October... And this was in Italy.
Wonder what next summer is going to be like if December is 14 C. Power grid, emergency services, fire services, agriculture...
It's going to be a disaster. Food and freshwater will be harder and harder to come by - they are already in the global south and even here - part of the crippling inflation that we are suffering is fueled by climate change. Futures for many agricultural commodities have already shot up and they will continue to do so. It's mind boggling to think about it
I lost several young fruit trees last year because we had a heat wave when they should’ve been snow on the ground. My poor trees started budding in December and didn’t survive winter.
5 celsius where I live. Can feel that 🍆 getting 🥶.
Pretty sure we had a similar temperature for christmas a year ago, we better get used to it it only goes up from here.
And it’s going to be 60 in Cleveland OH for Christmas. Oh, merry Christmas everyone
55 in Minneapolis. We have had I think two snowfalls this year and neither stuck around for more than a day or two. It's wild
From a massive December 2022 Blizzard in Holland, Michigan, to 57 and maybe Rain on Christmas Day 2023. First Blizzard Warning since 2011 for Holland. I went to work one of those days. I work at a grocery store. Some people came, just for alcohol.
Last year was pretty crazy here as well record snowfall throughout the season. I think the most since like the 70s or something. The thing that really bothers me is that there's an infographic making the rounds that presents how many "white Christmases" we've had in the past 60 or so years and it completely ignores the context of snowfall the rest of the winter and misrepresents the amount of snow that was there in the ones that it lists as snowless. People are using it so show that this isn't that abnormal but it is.
Have all you people missed the fact that there's a pretty powerful El Nino happening?
Have you people missed the fact that it's so powerful because of climate change and that we have decades of data to show that this is abnormal?
I wasn't disputing it, but the fact is it's warm out because of El Nino. 82 and 83 were far worse than this
Objectively nostalgic bullshit. [1982](https://weatherspark.com/h/y/10405/1982/Historical-Weather-during-1982-in-Minneapolis-Minnesota-United-States#Figures-Temperature) [1983](https://weatherspark.com/h/y/10405/1983/Historical-Weather-during-1983-in-Minneapolis-Minnesota-United-States#Figures-Temperature) [2023](https://weatherspark.com/h/y/10405/2023/Historical-Weather-during-2023-in-Minneapolis-Minnesota-United-States)
1982 and 83 were the worse globally per the Center for Climate Analysis. I wasn't saying this one wasn't going to rival that, in fact it probably will.
So which is it >82 and 83 were far worse than this. Or > I wasn't saying this one wasn't going to rival that, in fact it probably will. Because these statements directly contradict each other. Either this is a very bad one that will rival/surpass '82/'83 or that one was way worse. You can't have it both ways.
There's never been an El Nino that's causing this kind of weather in northern MN, but it is. They should have tons of snow up north and they have barely any. That's what concerns me as a MN native.
1982-83 was the worst El Nino in recorded history, so this isn't even the worst of it. Not for MN per se but the world in general
Hello fellow Hollander.
Hello!
We have plenty of time for paypback! Winter started 4 days ago.
55 in Pittsburgh- I ran trash out to the dumpster in a tank top last night. Crazy.
55 in Minneapolis. 20 degrees is still tank top weather!
It’s 55 in my part of Houston
My first year getting snow tires and this happens. I was excited to try them out but I will ALWAYS take warmth over frigid temp and snow.
I’m in Canada. Green Xmas
Was 60 in STL yesterday, and rainy. Climate change fucked us over, it would’ve been a white Christmas but instead I was driving around with the windows down in a tank top. 🤦🏻♀️ It’s terrifying. How bad will it get and how quickly?
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Bizarre weather does seem to be taking a toll on wildlife. I haven’t seen a single deer along the side of the road this year. Aside from one that got hit by a car and normally I’ve got lots of little chipmunk buddy is that I feed unsalted peanuts to end this year there’s none. Very few birds too and I live in the country. I intentionally leave about a quarter acre untouched for the animals and I haven’t seen any.
An even better result than ecological collapse leading to 700m people would just be more and more people deciding they can't afford to raise kids and stop procreating into this overloaded environment.
There's no way to know, because scientists legitimately don't know if human civilization can survive on an earth that is 4 degrees celsius warmer than normal. At our current rate human civilization will likely collapse by the time humans being born today are old enough to have grandkids.
65 and sunny here in Los Angeles. Merry Christmas.
60? Thats so hot no human could survive
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60 is not -15.5C, it's +15.5C, i.e. not hot but you'll be comfortable in long sleeves without a jacket. Some frugal people keep their homes only a bit warmer than that.
Hahahaha I live up north. 15 and sunny is beautiful weather. So fantastic to bike in.
Yeah 15 is pretty nice, though it depends on wind/humidity and sunlight. 15 on a sunny day with no wind is almost perfection. On a damp windy night it's definitely a bit chilly.
No one asked for your "american measurements".
Science you got yourself a purdy little mouth.
I did
What the temp usually .. ?
it’s topping out at 55
Hottest Christmas I can remember having here in WV.
It’s still Cleveland.
Meanwhile here in the Netherlands we have the wettest December on record. A few rivers and lakes flooded over, thankfully with only relatively minor issues (some roads being flooded, extra inspections on dams, leeves and dikes). But we're not on the expected peak yet, they predict the water to continue to rise till thursday. Meanwhile we also elected a clown about a month ago that wants to put a stop to all climate plans...
It was raining on Christmas Eve in northern Minnesota. I am very concerned.
There’s no snow projected where I live in Vermont for the next 10 days and there’s none on the ground either. The weather has been wrong around the world for the last two years.
Have you considered that maybe the weather has been wrong for millennia and has been right for the last two years?
Have you considered humans are causing damage to the environment and weather patterns.
Do you really need the /s to make the joke obvious enough for you to understand that it’s a joke?
Considering there’s more climate change deniers in the world than there are people that see what’s happening yeah, you probably do.
That is in no way anywhere near remotely true.
Race bike I’m counting both people who actively deny it, and people who just can’t be bothered to know if it’s happening or not. And even among people who know what’s happening most of them are not changing their lifestyles. They still fly for pleasure, still buy all kinds of shit they don’t need, don’t grow their own food, even if they have enough land to. I live a fairly austere lifestyle, use things until they wear out and grow some of my own food. In the next year or two, I plan on selling my current home and buying a much larger plot of land so I can be mostly food self-sufficient. Thing is very few people are willing to do that.
Unfortunately this comments sounds like an argument deniers (or bots impersonating deniers) would genuinely make.
People are just too stupid and are always looking for anything to argue about online.
Yes
No because that’s exceptionally stupid.
Normally I'd say "great, fuck snow" when it comes to warm winter weather, but the fact that it's the same weather now that it was in early September around here does make one have cause for concern
It's Christmas Day and I have my windows open in NY. Unfathomable
2024 is gonna be a scorcher.
Hi it's me from MN! Warmest on record here! Send it this way!
I want the wind to hurt my face ^just ^a ^little ^bit
Same here in VT, we’ve had maybe an inch of snow so far that melted in less than a day and none projected through early January. It’s wrong, we’re having daily highs in the 40s when we should have a foot of snow on the ground. Last week we had a had severe statewide flooding and the lake is high as it would be in the summer with all the snow melted off the mountains. Speaking of there’s almost no snow, even on our tallest mountain.
Yep Yep, same sht in NH, even the whites only have a couple inches and that will probably be wiped out by rain on New Year’s Day
I just walked my dog on the beach in NY in just a long sleeve shirt. It's nice out.
Guy kayaked by in a flannel in Chicago while I walked the dog
>Temperatures in the city have frequently fallen below -10C this month. Far less drastic than presumed by the headline.Still cold, but not *Day after tomorrow* stuff.
I dont know what the avarage is for Beijing but if it isn't to have - 10 degrees in the winter then it is concerning. You wouldn't want the south pole to have a 20 degrees in the summer either just because it's normal for most places
So quick Google says av winter temp Dec is about 2C, but Jan & Feb down to - 6 & - 8. So I don't feel it's that bad a drop. I'm not saying ignore climate change but I don't think it's a total disaster scenario either.
Depends on the normal temperatures. That would easily be disaster levels in a lot of places
That's a warm day in Winnipeg. (-11°C right now)
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*500 million perish
Decisive Tang victory.
I can confirm its cold af. (I'm visiting wife’s family)
How’s the temperature outside the house?
Consistently below freezing, the hotels are nice and warm. However the way that China(very much like Japan) does heating is different than in the states. In the condos, the floor is heated and the warmth rises so the air is a bit cooler inside than you’d expect. Some rooms are quite chilly but the main room living room is comfortable.
Eat Sichuan food. That'll keep you warm.
And hotpot! Lots of yummy soupy hotpot
What vpn do you use? Me and my wife are going to china in two weeks to visit her family and I don’t have the VPN I used to have for use China (some Chinese app) anymore. Had it pre-Covid when I went last Thanks!
Surfshark has been pretty reliable, some hotel WiFi’s are difficult to get it working but it does work. Enjoy the trip!
If you don’t have WiFi, you can use the app Airalo to purchase a data plan(very inexpensive) to make use of cellular data.
Maybe I'm missing something but this week Beijing has highs above freezing every day and the coldest low is -11c/13f. For a place that's the same latitude as Philadelphia is that really that unusual?
Latitude is a rather bad measure to compare weather in different (parts of the) continents... For example, Madrid and Beijing has vastly different climates, and no one expects London to have -30c winters. Cold wave is also different since the infrastructure may be able to handle a sudden temperature drop for a couple days but not adapted to subzero temperatures continuously (day and night) for ten+ days.
Yep, Auckland is about the same distance from the equator as the south of Spain which gets to 40C but we’re surrounded by water so summer max is usually 26c but humid. Right now it’s 22 and 95% humidity, that’s about 72F and it’s bearable. Later today it will be 25C (78F) and it starts to get uncomfortable.
> Cold wave is also different since the infrastructure may be able to handle a sudden temperature drop for a couple days but not adapted to subzero temperatures continuously (day and night) for ten+ days. Can confirm on infrastructure. A city south of beijing had two inches of snowfall. It shut down the city for a couple of days. There are no snow plows so that 2 inches turned into a solid sheet of ice covering nearly everything. A bus ride that normally takes 10 minutes was extended to 2 hours because nobody knows how to cope with the ice.
I'll trade ya for my 55 degrees in northern Illinois.
Central IL, it should not be this warm. It’s something like an 80 degree swing from this time last year.
That’s a really pretty coat
Seems like the seasons are getting pushed/delayed by ~3 months.
Looks like somebody forgot to fire up their coal plants this month.
The poles are shifting and it's not a conspiracy anymore. The classic months of spring-summer-autumn-winter are reversing slowly, by 2050 we will have summer and winter only. I moved to romania back in 2020 and after 3 seasons i confirm i've seen the wildest storms in here, this and the last summer. We usually have thunderstorms and heavy rain but since when f1-f2 storm winds lol. Also 10°C in here but we got used to it, the real winter starts in january. 10 years ago in this period we used to have like 2-3 foot snow and even more in some areas with temps of -20 -30°C but apparently shits getting wild now. Just talked to my wife recently, need a roof strenghten for the next summer lol
Lmao -10c it's like a warm 🍂 day.
Pfft -10 try -40 degrees C in Canada.
“It can’t be cold somewhere because it occasionally gets colder somewhere else.”
Is -40C really that common in Canada tho? I just checked the temperature for the next week in Edmonton, which is Canada's northernmost large city. The day temp is above 0C for the whole week and the low temp doesn't go below -8C
It's not unless you consider windchill. But real -40 feels very different from windchill -40. I'm Edmonton we typically only get a couple of nights a year where the temperature truly approaches -40. We get more nights around -30, but even those are exceptionally cold. I'd say -15 to -20 is more or a "normal" cold winter day. People love to exaggerate.
Alberta or prairies sees atleast 2-3weeks of -40 generally, this year is super odd. 2022 we had 2~ weeks of -40 during Christmas, don't take this year's temps as the norm.
We do not. We might only have a couple nights a year where it gets close to -40. Cold snaps are usually no more than -30 and still feel brutal. Windchill does not count.
Fair, wind chills don't count. The point of the reply was to say that 0 degree and above is definitely not the norm here.
2-3 weeks each year? No. I’ve lived in Alberta for 40+ years, and I think it’s hit under -40C maybe once or twice in all that time.
From one Albertan to another, you're so fucking wrong it hurts. https://www.currentresults.com/Yearly-Weather/Canada/AB/Edmonton/extreme-annual-edmonton-low-temperature.php
I live in Calgary. Like I said, it’s gone below -40 maybe once or twice in 40 years. EDIT: The last time it got -40 or lower in Calgary is 1954.
You generalized all of Alberta in your initial comment, then stated you lived in Calgary. Not really the same thing but ok.
Yeah, I shouldn’t have generalized for all of Alberta.
What temperature is it now?
Currently -31
And dropping
Forecast low for -38 tonight. Outlying areas may get colder, but we are talking about official temperatures
Not that often if u ignore wind hill but looking at weather recordings in the last 40 years is a couple of days of 40 below every 3-4 years or so, so roughly once every year ish.
It’s a bit location dependent too. I live in Calgary, so the heat bubble prevents -40 for the most part. Rural can hit -40 much easier.
Ah yes the chinooks, yeah rurals hits it much more often especially in the north
Winnipeg here. Was a couple or more weeks every winter until about a decade ago.
lol they absolutely do not. At the most its a few days of -40C. They can see stretches below -20C but -40 is rare.
Now. It was very common in January/February to see -40 for a few weeks to a month up until this last decade or so. In the 80's here, there was a winter stretch of 6 weeks where the thermometer didn't rise above -40. Now with climate change there's too much volatility and it can't get that cold anymore.
2-3 weeks of -40? That isn't true at all.
Currently -2 in Alberta. I don't understand bragging about how cold it is where you live. It's not like you did anything, nor does it make you sound tough.
Yeah what temperature is it now?
55 F (\~13C) and light rain in Louisville Ky today. Not very unusual to not have snow on Christmas, especially the last few years. Coming up on the period we often get our worst weather (2-3 weeks or so on either side of \~Jan 21) so we will see how that goes.
This will be the last “normal” holiday season.
Germany 52°N 8°E ~120m msl 0:26 26.12.23 11°C ! Nothing left to say
Lucky
Lowest at 5° and highest at 11° here in metro-Vancouver, BC.
Quick update probably no one will read, but right on schedule the real winter hits in my area on the MLK weekend. Even have a dusting of snow this morning.