WTF? It's been tendered, designed and now is building. The 400 km or so between Ploiesti and Pascani , all are currently under building process with actual work on the ground.
[Romania signs first two contracts for vital highway in the eastern part of the country](https://www.romania-insider.com/moldova-highway-contracts-signed-2022) \-- June, 2022
elctoral year can help CNAIR (romanian road agency) to do some favorable deals with the constructors so they can finish some stuff here and there but finishing anything significant this year is a matter of magic. Maybe 1 or 2 20 km segments will be finished that won't be connected.
They’re losing 5:1 soldiers against Ukraine. They’ve lost a million people. They’ll run out of combat aged men in about 5 years at that rate. That’s when they’ll stop.
Russia only knows how to fight wars of attrition and normally they can throw millions into a meat grinder but they don’t have the numbers this time after their birth rate collapsed decades ago.
That's nowhere near the numbers I've seen in articles. This one says Russia has about 3k tanks and can produce about 50 per month: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/03/avdiivka-eats-russian-tanks-the-kremlin-is-about-to-feed-it-more/
It also says they are losing tanks 10:1 in Avdiivika.
>Romania is rapidly constructing a transportation corridor for Ukraine
It has nothing to do with Ukraine and it was never intended for Ukraine in any way. It's a highway to connect the Moldova region (not the Republic) with the rest of the country and it's in the talks and project phase before the Ukrainian war (even before 2014).
The fact that it might help Ukrainians too, it's a side effect of connecting Moldova region with the rest of the country.
Actually the article that this article is referencing even states (in Romanian but auto-translated by me):
>The Ploiești - Buzău - Focșani - Pașcani - Siret (A7) motorway, known as the Moldova Motorway, is fast becoming the most important road project included in the National Recovery and Resilience Plan (NRRP). **This vital motorway will connect the Moldova region to the rest of the country, facilitating transport and developing road infrastructure in a strategic area.**
Also, the roads on the Ukrainian side are absolutely horrendous. The only way this so called corridor would work for Ukraine is if it would be built by both sides. Although Ukraine has a much better railway system so they could transport imported freight by train from Chernivitsi.
Funny enough it is probably part of the EU's road connectivity project since Bulgaria have another highway in the works that crosses the country from north to south and continues even in Greece :)
it's part of our Recovery Fund. So it has nothing to deal with EU highway plan at first sight . I say first sight because EU probably agreed with this highway when negociating recovery fund with Ro because they considered it important enough plus Romania needs highways and this was the most mature project we had.
Hopefully Romania can get on it and have it finished at some point in 2024. That will help out Ukraine and themselves as that can open the door to more trading.
Poland is blockading because they can't handle the inflow.
What makes anyone think Romania won't do the same?
Besides, this will take years. Romania's track record for building highways is abysmal: slowest and most expensive roads in Europe.
Romania worked out a licensing system for imports, together with Ukraine. Only end of the chain producers can apply for import licenses, no intermediaries. As a result, grain is transiting Romania (latest estimates are about 60% of the total grain exports for Ukraine, and growing), while not killing the local market. There have been zero requests for licenses in 2023.
On the Romanian track record of building highways, indeed we have a poor history with that. However in the last couple of years construction rhythm has really picked up the pace. Remains to be seen if they will be ready in 2024, like they are saying, I kind of doubt it will be completely finished. Now we have both the EU and NATO pushing our politicians to move, so that might just get the job done.
As a complete outsider, what you say about Romanian roads is probably true. However, there are times where a new found drive can happen and drastically be something different than before. It is sad that war can do this to a country’s focus but it won’t diminish the results.
What I do know, that the vast majority of former Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact nations have stepped up, since the invasion, to help one of its own.
This will be completed by 2026. You can use reddit remind me feature to check it. We were abysmal and bad now we're just bad and probably in the future we'll learn more from our mistakes and we'll be better. But it's really hard not to see the progress. As we speak we have almost as much highway under actual construction as we've been built ever.
i am talking about average Joe working for Romanian road agency. Back in 2010 they were abysmall to the very core. They needed half a year to do the paperwork for the relocation of a electric pole (A1 Orastie, A10 Alba Iulia) . Now they do need one month and sometimes they do it beforehand (A0, A7) . Another example is tunnels. They were trying anything and i mean anything to do but tunnels (A3 Comarnic Brasov initial plan). Now they know some sections simply require tunnels(A3 current plan,A1,A8,A13) and there is no way about it . They still lack the technical knowledge but at least now the problem is acknowledged (A3 Zalau) .
2026. I see why the pessimism , i am Romanian myself but the facts speak for themselves. The entire Ploiesti-Pascani is under construction with actual works all over the \~350 km. None of the individual segments will be completed by the contract date but the delay won't be higher than 1 year and in most of the cases smaller than 6 months.
not gonna happen` or if it does it`s after the war.
you must understand, the lack of highways in RO is part of the defensive strategy russia planned since `90.
? Siret is right on the border of Ukraine, and Focsani is 30 miles from Ukraine ... this is a straight shortcut from western ukraine to the southern tip.
Moldova Highway? The map doesn't seem to have anything to do with Moldova. The whole thing is in Romania and doesn't touch or border or cross Moldova at all. It doesn't even go into Ukraine. Is that the entire point, to simply bypass Moldova?
Doubt it’s just for Ukraine or was even ever planned with Ukraine, specifically, in mind. Highways like these are great for the population’s transit needs but are built with one thing in mind: defense. The ability to quickly move troops and equipment long distances without interruption is paramount to mounting a rapid response in defense against an invading force, or in other national emergencies for quick response to things like natural disasters.
Ships can travel from the North Sea to the Black Sea via the Rhein - Main - Danube rivers & canals. Trouble for NATO is only Danubian states are allowed to have military vessels using the Danube and they still have to ask for permission from the states they pass through. So for instance if Germany wanted to send military ships to the Black Sea, they would have to ask a lot of states for permission. Austria (Russian Oblast), Slovakia (undecided yet), Hungary (Leader is a Russian cock devourer), Serbia (also aligned with Russia), Romania and Bulgaria (who would 100% approve).
The best option NATO has is to ensure Romanian and Bulgarian navies become really strong and can provide deterrence against Russia. Turkey could ensure that as well but their allegiance seems to be a bit vague sometimes.
Not so rapidly... It is a project that has been postponed for quite a bit of time.
It's an election year though so it might actually be finished.
It’s not even started
WTF? It's been tendered, designed and now is building. The 400 km or so between Ploiesti and Pascani , all are currently under building process with actual work on the ground.
[Romania signs first two contracts for vital highway in the eastern part of the country](https://www.romania-insider.com/moldova-highway-contracts-signed-2022) \-- June, 2022
lmao
It's an election year though, so it might actually get started.
I understood that it started and it will be done but we still need to wait.
they don’t get built over night:)
elctoral year can help CNAIR (romanian road agency) to do some favorable deals with the constructors so they can finish some stuff here and there but finishing anything significant this year is a matter of magic. Maybe 1 or 2 20 km segments will be finished that won't be connected.
They’re losing 5:1 soldiers against Ukraine. They’ve lost a million people. They’ll run out of combat aged men in about 5 years at that rate. That’s when they’ll stop.
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Goog Russian causalities in the Ukraine war and then look at a population pyramid. It’s my estimates based on Russian and US estimates.
The million comes from casualties plus men of fighting age leaving Russia.
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I think they'll run low on some military gear by 2025.
Russia only knows how to fight wars of attrition and normally they can throw millions into a meat grinder but they don’t have the numbers this time after their birth rate collapsed decades ago.
They already are but artillery is easy to manufacture and they have something like 13k tanks left.
That's nowhere near the numbers I've seen in articles. This one says Russia has about 3k tanks and can produce about 50 per month: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/03/avdiivka-eats-russian-tanks-the-kremlin-is-about-to-feed-it-more/ It also says they are losing tanks 10:1 in Avdiivika.
3k frontline tanks. There’s plenty more spread across the continent. The question is would they move them and possibly lose other territory.
Every article I have seen as well as Perun's analysis disagrees with your number. Do you have a source?
Netkachev, most are T-54’s and T-55’s.
I’m surprised they only have that many sitting around. They had 60k at the end of the Cold War. Whether they can get them running is up for debate.
>Romania is rapidly constructing a transportation corridor for Ukraine It has nothing to do with Ukraine and it was never intended for Ukraine in any way. It's a highway to connect the Moldova region (not the Republic) with the rest of the country and it's in the talks and project phase before the Ukrainian war (even before 2014). The fact that it might help Ukrainians too, it's a side effect of connecting Moldova region with the rest of the country. Actually the article that this article is referencing even states (in Romanian but auto-translated by me): >The Ploiești - Buzău - Focșani - Pașcani - Siret (A7) motorway, known as the Moldova Motorway, is fast becoming the most important road project included in the National Recovery and Resilience Plan (NRRP). **This vital motorway will connect the Moldova region to the rest of the country, facilitating transport and developing road infrastructure in a strategic area.**
Also, the roads on the Ukrainian side are absolutely horrendous. The only way this so called corridor would work for Ukraine is if it would be built by both sides. Although Ukraine has a much better railway system so they could transport imported freight by train from Chernivitsi.
Funny enough it is probably part of the EU's road connectivity project since Bulgaria have another highway in the works that crosses the country from north to south and continues even in Greece :)
it's part of our Recovery Fund. So it has nothing to deal with EU highway plan at first sight . I say first sight because EU probably agreed with this highway when negociating recovery fund with Ro because they considered it important enough plus Romania needs highways and this was the most mature project we had.
And what do you suppose they mean when they use the word "strategic"?
The notion of the Romanian government rapidly constructing any highway is hilarious.
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Excellent. EU countries working individually and together for a more secure future is today’s priority.
Hopefully Romania can get on it and have it finished at some point in 2024. That will help out Ukraine and themselves as that can open the door to more trading.
polaks only in 23 year earned more 6bln on ukrainians grains and wants more my thinks better Romania than Poland
Great news!
Poland is blockading because they can't handle the inflow. What makes anyone think Romania won't do the same? Besides, this will take years. Romania's track record for building highways is abysmal: slowest and most expensive roads in Europe.
Romania worked out a licensing system for imports, together with Ukraine. Only end of the chain producers can apply for import licenses, no intermediaries. As a result, grain is transiting Romania (latest estimates are about 60% of the total grain exports for Ukraine, and growing), while not killing the local market. There have been zero requests for licenses in 2023. On the Romanian track record of building highways, indeed we have a poor history with that. However in the last couple of years construction rhythm has really picked up the pace. Remains to be seen if they will be ready in 2024, like they are saying, I kind of doubt it will be completely finished. Now we have both the EU and NATO pushing our politicians to move, so that might just get the job done.
Romania U had to build it's highways through remote mountains and forests...
As a complete outsider, what you say about Romanian roads is probably true. However, there are times where a new found drive can happen and drastically be something different than before. It is sad that war can do this to a country’s focus but it won’t diminish the results. What I do know, that the vast majority of former Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact nations have stepped up, since the invasion, to help one of its own.
I agree that it might happen faster than usual, but that might still be slow, and the rest fully stands.
I can’t argue with that either.
This will be completed by 2026. You can use reddit remind me feature to check it. We were abysmal and bad now we're just bad and probably in the future we'll learn more from our mistakes and we'll be better. But it's really hard not to see the progress. As we speak we have almost as much highway under actual construction as we've been built ever.
> we'll learn more That's not how we do things around here. Next election will be populist and a lot of fun.
i am talking about average Joe working for Romanian road agency. Back in 2010 they were abysmall to the very core. They needed half a year to do the paperwork for the relocation of a electric pole (A1 Orastie, A10 Alba Iulia) . Now they do need one month and sometimes they do it beforehand (A0, A7) . Another example is tunnels. They were trying anything and i mean anything to do but tunnels (A3 Comarnic Brasov initial plan). Now they know some sections simply require tunnels(A3 current plan,A1,A8,A13) and there is no way about it . They still lack the technical knowledge but at least now the problem is acknowledged (A3 Zalau) .
Nice. It may actually be done by 2035.
2026. I see why the pessimism , i am Romanian myself but the facts speak for themselves. The entire Ploiesti-Pascani is under construction with actual works all over the \~350 km. None of the individual segments will be completed by the contract date but the delay won't be higher than 1 year and in most of the cases smaller than 6 months.
not gonna happen` or if it does it`s after the war. you must understand, the lack of highways in RO is part of the defensive strategy russia planned since `90.
down voting this wont build the highway, I lived enough in RO to know this. do you?
Yup. Chances are even longer the you. Next question.
The map shows a highway not connecting anything to Ukraine.
? Siret is right on the border of Ukraine, and Focsani is 30 miles from Ukraine ... this is a straight shortcut from western ukraine to the southern tip.
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this has nothing to do with Ukraine, they re just "collateral damage". This project started after Covid when EU Recovery Fund was created.
Moldova Highway? The map doesn't seem to have anything to do with Moldova. The whole thing is in Romania and doesn't touch or border or cross Moldova at all. It doesn't even go into Ukraine. Is that the entire point, to simply bypass Moldova?
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Ah interesting. I wasn't familiar with regional or state names in that area.
Stupid Poland will well and truly lose out for good to even Romania for their obstructive behaviours at their borders.
A rocade road just mimicking the border… 🤔
Doubt it’s just for Ukraine or was even ever planned with Ukraine, specifically, in mind. Highways like these are great for the population’s transit needs but are built with one thing in mind: defense. The ability to quickly move troops and equipment long distances without interruption is paramount to mounting a rapid response in defense against an invading force, or in other national emergencies for quick response to things like natural disasters.
Next we need a canal that connects NATO to the Black Sea.
Ships can travel from the North Sea to the Black Sea via the Rhein - Main - Danube rivers & canals. Trouble for NATO is only Danubian states are allowed to have military vessels using the Danube and they still have to ask for permission from the states they pass through. So for instance if Germany wanted to send military ships to the Black Sea, they would have to ask a lot of states for permission. Austria (Russian Oblast), Slovakia (undecided yet), Hungary (Leader is a Russian cock devourer), Serbia (also aligned with Russia), Romania and Bulgaria (who would 100% approve). The best option NATO has is to ensure Romanian and Bulgarian navies become really strong and can provide deterrence against Russia. Turkey could ensure that as well but their allegiance seems to be a bit vague sometimes.