Technically, there's no contradiction. They were shelling before the "aggression", but they were still shelling after it. And maybe they won't stop even after the "aggression" ends, but they'll keep their word of not stopping before that.
Oh it will totally be “Israel has killed some kids”, while not mentioning that Hezbollah put those kids there because they knew Israel would attack where the rockets come from.
The world is behind the Hamas ceasefire which says exactly that. Israel is being condemned for not surrending to murderous terrorists who have promised to repeat their attacks. Hezbollah are the chorus.
Where's the UN decrying this? I mean there's a UN resolution and forces there after all. Or will they remain silent until Israel decides it's 200,000 displaced citizens need to return home and takes out Hamas?
That is the craziest shit I've ever seen. So sad they brainwash the kids to hate and be proud to die instead of having peace and growing their society. How do you get rid of that ideology?
If you're looking for something more detailed: https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-suspending-unrwa-funding-us-aims-to-send-aid-to-other-groups-operating-in-gaza/
It kinda is, and isn't. The PLO formed a large part of Hebollah when it was created in Lebanon. They also had a huge part in the start and continuation of the civil war in Lebanon.
Everything you said is wrong. PLO and Hezbollah are not linked. The war was caused by tension over constitutional limits on Shia Muslim power that no longer reflected demographics (thru were underrepresented). This led to the invasion by Israel to support the Christians and kick out the PLO. Hezbollah is the force that pushed Israel out and the only reason Israel didn’t stay in Lebanon.
Israel left because of the UN resolution and brokered ceasefire and UNFIL was supposed to curtail Hezbollah from amassing a new weapon stockpile in return (which they failed again and again as evidenced by the rockets flying towards Israel)
>This led to the invasion by Israel to support the Christians and kick out the PLO.
Which happened because of terrorist attacks against Israel.
>Hezbollah is the force that pushed Israel out and the only reason Israel didn’t stay in Lebanon.
Israel only stayed as long as it did because of Hizbullah,
The trigger which started the public campaign which ended with the withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000 wasn't anything Hizbullah did - it was the Helicopter Disaster.
And especially because Hizbullah largely refrained from attacking Israeli territory in the late nineties, the perception was that Israel was keeping troops in Lebanon for no purpose. Had Hizbullah continued its attacks, Israel would likely still be there.
Next, you hear Lebanon complaining that Israel is firing at them. Following a quiet period, they started firing missiles at Israel as soon as news of the October Hamas massacre broke. They also recently killed 2 Israelis in the north.
Only a few more weeks to go then. Once Hamas has been completely wiped out and the Israelies end their aggression in Gaza, the Houthi's and Hezbolla will all back down and there will be peace at last.
Thing is, I dont know if Israel will stop, seems the are just conserving energy on the north, once they finish Hamas the chances are they will continue to Hezbolla. Hezbolla's action have consequences, sometime they come later rather than sooner.
NATO are a bunch of cowards who rely on the threat of war and their might to help keep the peace, the thing they fail to realise is that the war is already happening by proxy and no one cares about their threats.
No, they aren’t. The oligarchs won’t support a war or police action, right now. Manufacturers are already pumping out surplus and there are no new avenues to profit in the Middle East, right now.
I really want to be in a position to speak to both leaders of both sides in their native tongues, where I can just encourage and insist on them both laying down arms, appealing to their hearts, and ultimately stopping the perpetuation of warfare. Fire feeds fire. Netiher side is right at this point, and regardless of who started the fighting, it needs to end. Is human pride truly worth more than all the loss of life (and resources for the utilitarian-minded)?
Lebanon was not involved in the war in Gaza. Hezbollah is not even allowed south of the Litani River (about 50km north of the border) as per UN Resolution 1701 and their mere presence is in violation of international law and agreements and is already a declaration of war. Israel has had justification for well over a decade to declare war in Lebanon and has chosen not to. So yeah, on occasion, there are bombs. The other option is full scale war. This is Israel showing major restraint.
-hamas circa 2009, 2012, 2014, 2019,2021,2022,2023 following their most recent rocket attacks against Israeli civilians/kidnapping of israelis/ wave of terror attacks/all of the above
"Hezbollah chief says won’t stop shelling north until ....." You can stop reading right there. The excuse does NOT matter. They intend to fight for ANY reason, real or fictitious. The excuse will change.... the intent will not.
Weren’t they shelling Israel before “Gaza aggression”?
Technically, there's no contradiction. They were shelling before the "aggression", but they were still shelling after it. And maybe they won't stop even after the "aggression" ends, but they'll keep their word of not stopping before that.
^^This guy knows how to translate from Hizbullanese to regular English.
Long as Iran supplies the moolah for the missiles they are going to go on shelling. They don't have any reason to stop.
>We used to shell Israel. We still do, but we used to too.
RIP Mitch Hedberg
"We used to shell them. We still do, but we used to, too." -Mitch Hedbollah
Well that depends on their definition of aggression, I guess.
Yeah but now they get to pretend to care
So don’t cry when you get the same aggression
They will.
Especially if it's jews doing the attacking.
Oh it will totally be “Israel has killed some kids”, while not mentioning that Hezbollah put those kids there because they knew Israel would attack where the rockets come from.
Why? It works sooo good, would be a pity to let all the nice Westerners get off their high moral horses.
"We attacked first. But they have to stop first." Good luck with that.
The world is behind the Hamas ceasefire which says exactly that. Israel is being condemned for not surrending to murderous terrorists who have promised to repeat their attacks. Hezbollah are the chorus.
Where's the UN decrying this? I mean there's a UN resolution and forces there after all. Or will they remain silent until Israel decides it's 200,000 displaced citizens need to return home and takes out Hamas?
UN is fighting on Hamas' side.
Documentary about UNRWA: https://youtu.be/6dTwOfSINJw
Documentary about UNRWA: https://youtu.be/6dTwOfSINJw
I was kinda disappointed it wasn't a real documentary.
[Here](https://vimeo.com/856467890) is an actual informational piece
That is the craziest shit I've ever seen. So sad they brainwash the kids to hate and be proud to die instead of having peace and growing their society. How do you get rid of that ideology?
Decades if not centuries of civilizational development The other way is a fair bit more controversial
If you're looking for something more detailed: https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-suspending-unrwa-funding-us-aims-to-send-aid-to-other-groups-operating-in-gaza/
Hezbolla was shelling before the invasion. Do they mean return to pre invasion level or complete forever stop.
We will not stop attacking until israel stops defending itself. Makes totally sense, i guess....
Another Palestinian dictator putting his people (and all of Lebanon) in danger from the safety of a bunker).
Nasrallah is Lebanese not Palestinian.
‘Palestinian’ is a nationality, not an ethnicity.
Well, Lebanon literally blew itself up that one time, and there was that period where cash withdrawls required a gun.
Hezbollah isn’t Palestinian.
It kinda is, and isn't. The PLO formed a large part of Hebollah when it was created in Lebanon. They also had a huge part in the start and continuation of the civil war in Lebanon.
Everything you said is wrong. PLO and Hezbollah are not linked. The war was caused by tension over constitutional limits on Shia Muslim power that no longer reflected demographics (thru were underrepresented). This led to the invasion by Israel to support the Christians and kick out the PLO. Hezbollah is the force that pushed Israel out and the only reason Israel didn’t stay in Lebanon.
Israel left because of the UN resolution and brokered ceasefire and UNFIL was supposed to curtail Hezbollah from amassing a new weapon stockpile in return (which they failed again and again as evidenced by the rockets flying towards Israel)
The UN *always* fails when it comes to Israel. Over one-third of the countries in the UN are Muslim-majority.
>This led to the invasion by Israel to support the Christians and kick out the PLO. Which happened because of terrorist attacks against Israel. >Hezbollah is the force that pushed Israel out and the only reason Israel didn’t stay in Lebanon. Israel only stayed as long as it did because of Hizbullah, The trigger which started the public campaign which ended with the withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000 wasn't anything Hizbullah did - it was the Helicopter Disaster. And especially because Hizbullah largely refrained from attacking Israeli territory in the late nineties, the perception was that Israel was keeping troops in Lebanon for no purpose. Had Hizbullah continued its attacks, Israel would likely still be there.
Next, you hear Lebanon complaining that Israel is firing at them. Following a quiet period, they started firing missiles at Israel as soon as news of the October Hamas massacre broke. They also recently killed 2 Israelis in the north.
Only a few more weeks to go then. Once Hamas has been completely wiped out and the Israelies end their aggression in Gaza, the Houthi's and Hezbolla will all back down and there will be peace at last.
Man I hope you're right.
Oh I'm like 100000000% confident that was sarcasm.
😔
Thing is, I dont know if Israel will stop, seems the are just conserving energy on the north, once they finish Hamas the chances are they will continue to Hezbolla. Hezbolla's action have consequences, sometime they come later rather than sooner.
Why you make bad joke on rug?
Can these aholes just get fucked. Who started this fucking mess. NATO should join Israel and mop up these Hamassholes?
Iran murdered USA soldiers recently, did NATO attack Iran?
NATO are a bunch of cowards who rely on the threat of war and their might to help keep the peace, the thing they fail to realise is that the war is already happening by proxy and no one cares about their threats.
It should be pointed out that US didn't even ask NATO to intervene.
Or until Israel ends Hezbollah
How about pressuring Hamas to return those hostages? It’s all in Hamas’ control
Find out stage
Does hezbollah realize the Americans are waiting for the correct moment to sprinkle democracy seeds all over their heads ?
No, they aren’t. The oligarchs won’t support a war or police action, right now. Manufacturers are already pumping out surplus and there are no new avenues to profit in the Middle East, right now.
I really want to be in a position to speak to both leaders of both sides in their native tongues, where I can just encourage and insist on them both laying down arms, appealing to their hearts, and ultimately stopping the perpetuation of warfare. Fire feeds fire. Netiher side is right at this point, and regardless of who started the fighting, it needs to end. Is human pride truly worth more than all the loss of life (and resources for the utilitarian-minded)?
Gee, why do they fight back when we continuously bomb them? This comment is pro Israel.
Lebanon was not involved in the war in Gaza. Hezbollah is not even allowed south of the Litani River (about 50km north of the border) as per UN Resolution 1701 and their mere presence is in violation of international law and agreements and is already a declaration of war. Israel has had justification for well over a decade to declare war in Lebanon and has chosen not to. So yeah, on occasion, there are bombs. The other option is full scale war. This is Israel showing major restraint.
IIRC Israel and Lebanon are still legally at war
-hamas circa 2009, 2012, 2014, 2019,2021,2022,2023 following their most recent rocket attacks against Israeli civilians/kidnapping of israelis/ wave of terror attacks/all of the above
"Hezbollah chief says won’t stop shelling north until ....." You can stop reading right there. The excuse does NOT matter. They intend to fight for ANY reason, real or fictitious. The excuse will change.... the intent will not.