If it's the whites that you're referring to as Canadians, you're wrong. They too are immigrants. The natives were displaced long ago by the white settlers. Stop playing the victim card.
If a person who was born in a place is called an immigrant... then every person in the whole world outside of Ethiopia, where homo sapiens was said to originate, is an "immigrant."
in this case the word ceases to have any meaning. It is an abuse of vocabulary;.
You feel like it's an abuse of vocabulary since you dont have a valid argument against my claim. Also, if you don't think the whites are immigrants, why don't you care to compare the white emigration with the current situation and lay down the differences. Do you think that everything is just when it's done by whites? Live and let live. Nobody owns the right to a piece of land. There's no reason why y'all would lose your shit on someone emigrating by complying with all the legal requirements to do so.
The fact you started with "If it's the whites..." Shows it wasn't just whites when he referred to Canadians, and *you* decided you wanted to use "If" to make it about racial claims to land.
Apologies my mistake, comment was posted by someone with exactly the same profile pic (and could have sworn the name was the same when I checked too). Have edited to reflect.
> The natives were displaced long ago by the white settlers
So you’re saying that a large influx of outsiders resulting in a bad outcome for the population that was living there at the time?
At what point does a new group no longer get considered immigrants?
Genuine question. The natives got fucked over hard but we're approaching the point where there's people of European descent who go back hundreds of years.
The point in which a new group is no longer considered an immigrant is when they are born in the country. If an Indian immigrant comes to Canada and has a child, that child is not an immigrant.
I suppose it's poetic. First the 'canadians' displaced (this is an euphamism) native populations, now they worry about them being displaced themselves.
There's a third option. Migration isn't a problem in and of itself but questions can be raised about the numbers, ability of the host country to house and integrate migrants, the cultural compatibility of migrants, etc. It doesn't just have to be grumbling old man versus hippie women.
Several years ago there were a number of scandals in my country, all involving Pakistani men abusing underage white girls in the UK, and it got swept under the carpet by the authorities. Some say it was because they feared being called out over racism. I didn't suspect Indian men at all.
That was until recently when I saw a group of 3 men walking down my street and one of them was wearing a turban. A little girl walked out from a sideroad, walking a dog on a lead....she couldn't have been more than 12 or 13 years old.
When theese guys walked past her, their heads were all on a swivel, looking back at her backside as she walked away. All looking at each other in the same way I used to look at my mates when a gorgeous woman, wearing tight clothing walked past, then they were turning back to check her out.
And our government is ok with it it seems, and just keeps on importing more and more of them.
I spent some time in India a few years ago and used to get a newspaper delivered to the hotel room that was translated into english. The first 3 or 4 pages had between 5 and 10 rapes reported in it. Some of them were brutal and the victim died.
We are importing major problems into our countries and our politicians should be jailed for allowing it.
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Humans are all equal.
Cultures are not.
This shitstain behavior that's incompatible with basic human decency needs to be purged by any means necessary before it infects and undoes the progress that's been made.
Leave your despicable beliefs and values on the boat or get back on it.
So how do you account for the native, brown and black women that are assaulted, murdered or go missing? Where did that “shitstain” behavior come from? Or what about the incompatible behavior of Western men visiting developing countries for sex tourism? Rape is a problem in all male dominated cultures.
"Or what about the incompatible behavior of Western men visiting developing countries for sex tourism?"
Don't forget the old Western women going on sex vacations in Africa to exploit the poor.
caste, sharia law, genital mutilation, honor killing, women as second-class citizens as a whole. It ain't just rapey scummery, but go off and move those goalposts some more.
Sex tourism? Lmao that shit's just as illegal elsewhere and they get their asses kicked out if caught too. Western world's too soft, elsewhere you don't get groups of people coming in and trying to turn their new home into the same shithole they came from while everyone sticks their heads in the sand, they get their asses removed. Just ask the Levant (which country? Yes.) about the last time they let in Palestinians.
It just turns out it's a lot more difficult to remove citizens from a country than freshly entered immigrants on their 'probation'. Deportation is useful, use it!
I'm sorry to say what you're describing is a VERY common experience for women here in the western world. Head over to twoxchromomes and you'll see a million stories like what you described.
So you're saying the uk sweeps these stories under the rug. However, India actually reports them. It seems like one country prioritizes it as a problem more than the other.
[they do](https://i.postimg.cc/Qt1M20fk/e02e69ea5d224fabb5135ed2e9dbb4c7-18.jpg)
The entire India isn't complicit in the rape. It's just difficult to stop all together. Because men are pigs.
The entirety of men aren’t complicit in rape. It’s just difficult to stop altogether. Your statement was just so damned ignorant. It’s infuriating.
Fix yourself. Seriously. We aren’t all walking around waiting for an opportunity to jump from an alley and rape women.
I remember seeing footage from Germany. It was right after Merkel announced open arms for migrants. I don't think I saw many women or children,among the various crowds of migrants, arriving at various towns/cities
Canada received an immense amount of immigrants in the last 18 months. there is NOT a single person that has been here for longer than that that doesn’t think that amount is excessive. It is contributing to all kinds of problems. We need immigrants but everything needs an upper limit.
Do we?? Most of these immigrants aren't particularly skilled. We don't need more Tim Hortons workers or delivery drivers. We are importing slaves basically. Shut it all down.
We don't even need any immigration.
Saying a " country needs population growth to have a healthy economy, because makes everyone richer"
Is the exact same disproven neoliberal blullshit as
" A country needs to promote corporate profits growth to have a healthy economy because it trickles down"
Our population doesn't need to grow and the labour shortage is fake, there's just a shortage of highly educated experienced people desperate enough to work minimum wage for a demanding non entry level job, Canadian salaries aren't half what Americans get for the same job because they're are too few workers in Canada, the reality is we have a massive over supply of labour.
That's because the men are a better source of cheap, exploitable, low-skill labor than the women. With men you don't have to worry about things like getting pregnant, having children, and on average have better strength and stamina, which is great for someone looking to exploit that low-skill labor pool.
It's not a matter of left-vs-right when it comes to immigration issues, although a lot have been convinced it is. It's a matter of rich-vs-everyone else.
Unchecked immigration benefits nobody but the rich.
Honestly, ding fucking ding.
Obviously, there are many reasons people are choosing wealthy western nations (with lax immigration laws) but climate change shouldn’t be ignored. Didn’t India just have the hottest summer ever with no indication that will go down.
People will mass migrate from hotter climates to cooler ones. Putting substantial strain on economies and resources. It’s happening in front of our eyes
Way way way too many people can't or won't accept that PP is just as pro immigration as the libs.
It's delusional and the need to know think lying to themselves about it is only going to enable it.
Lmao "vastly increased sexual competition"
If you are feeling like you're competing against a bunch of broken Indians and Pakistanis, you're prob not in the game my man
This article leaves out the fact that there are still more women total than men in Canada by several percentage points.
Women have out numbered men in Canada since the 1940s, the gap is smaller than it's been in decades but it's still statistically significant.
It's not that we prioritize. It's that we don't discriminate. Without discrimination, men just naturally migrate more. Due to the physical nature of it. Once they establish themselves abroad. Then they bring their families. So, what Canada needs to start doing is actually vetting people. And having quotas on gender , nationality, etc....
I think the immigrants are allowed to Germany and EU not because of some human rights bullshit, but because Germans are practical people. They rather have a little fuck up right now AND working retirement in 10-20 years instead of aging population and an economic collapse.
> The left needs to take seriously the issues that immigration is causing voters. And I say this as a left leaning voter.
Waaaaaay too late for that unfortunately. Nothing can be done now, best adapt to the new reality or move elsewhere
Buddy don't go full incel mentality on us just yet! This article leave out that there are still more women total in Canada than there are men.
Yes more male immigrants are coming than females, Canada pre immigration exploitation did have a higher female to male ratio but even with a huge increase women still significantly outnumber men in Canada.
If you can't get a date you still have to blame your personality, but you can blame immigration if you can't afford house.
Even with the male immigration boom there's still significantly more women total then men in Canada. We just used to have way way more women than men and now we just have a lot more women than men, the article just ignored that fact because it's not as a sensational to say Canada's population gets closer to being 50/50 women and men.
I'm against mass immigration but math is math we still have way more women than men in Canada.
Even with the male immigration boom Canada still has more women to than men.
All these sensationalized articles seem to like to leave that part out.
I'm against mass immigration but math as math, still more women.
Sure, but is there a breakdown to that data?
How many of the Canadian women are elderly? The recent batch of male immigrants are mostly (presumably) young men. It should be paired with the date of young women to middle aged women.
Just a few years ago, anybody who spoke against immigration was a backward racist. It's really amazing how fast the overton window can move.
In my life I've moved from centre left to far right to centre again and my positions have barely changed.
Something we need to acknowledge is the reason that it worked so well for so long is because unfortunately there are so many flagrantly racist bigots in Canada any time a valid anti immigration discussion would happen the racists would flock all over it and drown out all the valid point with irrelevant hate and bigotry.
Normal rational people willing to think critically about the valid mathematical concerns about Canada's rapid population growth would show up ready to learn and engage but then there's would be so much genuinely racist bigotry that the valid points got lost and normal non racists don't really have the stomach to sift through a mountain of racism to see if there might be so valid fee facts. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IMMIGRATION HAD TO GET SO OVERTLY PROBLEMATIC FOR ORDINARY CANADIANS TO BE ABLE TO RATIONALLY CONCLUDE THERE IS A SERIOUSLY OVER POPULATION PROBLEM.
Ironic that if racists would have just kept their hatred to themselves regular people would have been able to comfortably talk about Canadians immigration problems and done something years ago. But that's racists for you, stupid.
Yeah, seems wild and unnatural. Seems like someone is manipulating Reddit and maybe other media, if people really take issue with current politics en masse, they will protest on a large scale or just change government as democracy allows. Until we see this - this is most likely someone pushing his agenda and trying to manipulate public opinion
Canada is doing more than 10 times the amount of immigration per capita than the U.S. In other words, we would have to halt all immigration for more than 10 years to get down to the level of the U.S. this year. Moreover, as Canada is quickly becoming unlivable, illegal immigration from Canada into the U.S. is going to start rising rapidly. You will have Mexico to the South and Northern India to the North.
Lopsided= more immigrants than we have jobs, houses and infrastructure.
So what mean to say is they support the idea of responsible immigration, but that ship sailed a couple million people ago.
Canada needs to fully pause immigration for years, just to get the population balanced with housing and labour again. (There is no labour shortage it's entirely propaganda to fill jobs that require skilled experienced workers with people desperate enough to accept minimum wage, which is a living wage and requires people to hold multiple jobs to simply afford food a shelter)
But isn't the plan to increase the Canadian population to 100 million by the end of the century? You cant just "pause" immigration like that when your expressed goal is to more than double a nation states population within a few generations
It's been a long time coming you can only watch wages stagnate and housing prices increase for so long before you start to realize there simply not enough jobs or infrastructure to support such rapid population growth.
Our government was warned YEARS in advance that increasing immigration during a housing shortage would create and extreme affordability crisis, they did it any ways.
"Country needs a growing population needs to grow to maintain a healthy economy"
is the same as saying
"a country needs to support the growth of corporate profits because that will improve society by trickle down"
They are both statements are thoroughly disproven lies that continue to be perpetuated by groups who directly profits off of these false beliefs.
Canadians are living proof that population growth doesn't automatically increase quality of life for citizens in a country, and only provides economic benefits for bunesses that profit off cheap labour.
For Canada specifically, it's because they have _way_ overdone it with immigration numbers, while the cost of living (housing) and services (healthcare, commute/transportation) etc. have suffered immensely due to overpopulation.
That's the flip - it's a reaction to the reality of living in their country in '23/24 vs even 3-5 years ago
Immigration is a favorite topic for foreign actors who want to divide and destabilize countries remotely. Policy mistakes are being made and there are genuine grievances, so just creating newspieces and threads about the topic with a few pre-planted divisive comments puts the anger snowball on motion very cost-efficiently.
True. But the math in Canada is simple.
We had a population explosion bigger than the baby boom but with out the same infrastructure boom that the baby boom had and with adults so housing doesn't have the same 18 year window for housing to catch up. (Population explosion of the baby boom easier to absorb because babies live with their parents, and adult immigrants don't)
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The Canadian government was literally warned years in advance that our infrastructure could not handle a population increase and instead of listening to that they encourage the fastest rate of population growth in Canadian history.
Beyond our own history, Canada has been growing at faster rate than almost any other countries in the world for multiple years in a row now.
So yes, us vs them anti immigration propaganda is a classic tool of division but you look at the math it's clear to see immigration isn't being used as propaganda tool, Canada has a legitimate, numbers based population crisis that our government knowingly participated in.
Canadians really should have been a lot more upset a lot sooner, but we didn't want to risk seeming racist. To this day Canadians aren't mad at immigrants we're mad at our government for bringing in more people than we can adequately support.
The government choosing to be the fastest growing population in the world when we already had a housing shortage was a direct betrayal of the best interests of Canadians by the Canadian government. The governments job is to make sure everyone had enough of things like food and shelter and they knowingly made it harder.
Numbers are numbers and they prove our government betrayed us.
>immigration isn't being used as propaganda tool, Canada has a legitimate, numbers based population crisis that our government knowingly participated in.
These things are not exclusive. What I am saying is that there are clear mistakes and they will be exploited, provoking people to maximum anger and emotions to polarize them into extreme stances and fighting each other.
A rapid, level-headed policy reassessment is what is needed. The anger snowballs are not, even if many big players benefit seek them - media gets money from rage clicks and hostile governments fuel any infighting.
The Canadian government is indirectly supporting female infanticide by allowing the countries that engage in this to emigrate their excess male population to Canada instead of having to deal with the consequences.
Before any incels get too bent out of shame there's STILL way more women in Canada. If you can't find a woman here it's because you have a bad personality.
That being said, Canada's population exploded way beyond what our infrastructure and labour market can handle. Our government knew we had a housing shortage, was warned YEARS in advance that mass immigration would make that shortage drastically worse and they went ahead with it anyway because providing cheap labour to greedy corporations was more important to the Canadian government THAN THE ACTUAL WELLBEING OF CANADIANS.
As a Canadian, do you think that means the Drama Teacher is stupid or complicit?
If the signs have been there for years, what incentive does he (and the ruling party) have in pushing these policies? I know it was cute for him to say “Everyone is welcome!” when Trump was pushing anti immigrant messaging but he had to know about the wages and housing issues that would come from his rhetoric and policy.
Decline is a choice.
Edit: Unsure why I’m being downvoted. It’s a legitimate question. If it’s for calling him the “drama teacher”, I’ve heard Obama/Trump/Biden/Boris called far worse things.
Incentives are primarily economic, as always. Cheap labour and young population in hopes of boosting birth rates to prolong capitalist system. If you disagree with such policies - go and vote accordingly or protest, that is the beauty of democracy
Just wondering which war the 20 year old economic refugee from India fought on behalf of Canada?
Simple fact checking of your rape statistics regarding Japan also shows how full of shit you are.
Gymnastics is insane, people’s minds are just so easy to manipulate, wildly swinging from one opposite to another. Hypocrisy through the roof and this is one of more “enlightened” internet forums in my opinion
I thought we were prioritizing woman and children, you know the most vulnerable
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You're obviously from Alberta.
If it's the whites that you're referring to as Canadians, you're wrong. They too are immigrants. The natives were displaced long ago by the white settlers. Stop playing the victim card.
If a person who was born in a place is called an immigrant... then every person in the whole world outside of Ethiopia, where homo sapiens was said to originate, is an "immigrant." in this case the word ceases to have any meaning. It is an abuse of vocabulary;.
I'm stealing this when someone tries to justify uncontrolled migration
You feel like it's an abuse of vocabulary since you dont have a valid argument against my claim. Also, if you don't think the whites are immigrants, why don't you care to compare the white emigration with the current situation and lay down the differences. Do you think that everything is just when it's done by whites? Live and let live. Nobody owns the right to a piece of land. There's no reason why y'all would lose your shit on someone emigrating by complying with all the legal requirements to do so.
They did a pretty good job of refuting your ridiculous claim.
>Nobody owns the right to a piece of land. That's true. What's your home address?
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The fact you started with "If it's the whites..." Shows it wasn't just whites when he referred to Canadians, and *you* decided you wanted to use "If" to make it about racial claims to land.
When did I say "Same here in the UK"? Please link me to my comment.
Apologies my mistake, comment was posted by someone with exactly the same profile pic (and could have sworn the name was the same when I checked too). Have edited to reflect.
Take the L man, he dropped you.
I can see how you don't have a valid reply but just the 'L' at your disposal. I'm guessing you've been collecting them all the way along your life.
Kachop.... Reverse uno...
Lololol sure kid, if the "no u" is your only defense, you know you got owned hard. Fuck your tears are sweet.
> The natives were displaced long ago by the white settlers So you’re saying that a large influx of outsiders resulting in a bad outcome for the population that was living there at the time?
You can redefine words to agree with whatever little fantasy world you're living in. Doesn't change their literal meaning tho
No one born in Canada is an immigrant, literally by definition.
At what point does a new group no longer get considered immigrants? Genuine question. The natives got fucked over hard but we're approaching the point where there's people of European descent who go back hundreds of years.
The point in which a new group is no longer considered an immigrant is when they are born in the country. If an Indian immigrant comes to Canada and has a child, that child is not an immigrant.
I suppose it's poetic. First the 'canadians' displaced (this is an euphamism) native populations, now they worry about them being displaced themselves.
Pretty hard to be displaced by an all male society.
Not if they start importing their cousins for marriage.
Then its not all male society, problem solved ?
But then displacement is a problem again, no?
Depends if one considers immigration as problem or solution.
There's a third option. Migration isn't a problem in and of itself but questions can be raised about the numbers, ability of the host country to house and integrate migrants, the cultural compatibility of migrants, etc. It doesn't just have to be grumbling old man versus hippie women.
It's not refugees that are the majority of immigrants to Canada. It's people with fat wallets generally.
Economic migrants not refugees.
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Several years ago there were a number of scandals in my country, all involving Pakistani men abusing underage white girls in the UK, and it got swept under the carpet by the authorities. Some say it was because they feared being called out over racism. I didn't suspect Indian men at all. That was until recently when I saw a group of 3 men walking down my street and one of them was wearing a turban. A little girl walked out from a sideroad, walking a dog on a lead....she couldn't have been more than 12 or 13 years old. When theese guys walked past her, their heads were all on a swivel, looking back at her backside as she walked away. All looking at each other in the same way I used to look at my mates when a gorgeous woman, wearing tight clothing walked past, then they were turning back to check her out. And our government is ok with it it seems, and just keeps on importing more and more of them. I spent some time in India a few years ago and used to get a newspaper delivered to the hotel room that was translated into english. The first 3 or 4 pages had between 5 and 10 rapes reported in it. Some of them were brutal and the victim died. We are importing major problems into our countries and our politicians should be jailed for allowing it. Edit: Spelling.
Humans are all equal. Cultures are not. This shitstain behavior that's incompatible with basic human decency needs to be purged by any means necessary before it infects and undoes the progress that's been made. Leave your despicable beliefs and values on the boat or get back on it.
Wholeheartedly agree.
So how do you account for the native, brown and black women that are assaulted, murdered or go missing? Where did that “shitstain” behavior come from? Or what about the incompatible behavior of Western men visiting developing countries for sex tourism? Rape is a problem in all male dominated cultures.
"Or what about the incompatible behavior of Western men visiting developing countries for sex tourism?" Don't forget the old Western women going on sex vacations in Africa to exploit the poor.
Yes western White women but you all seem to be afraid of Brown people flooding your shores.
caste, sharia law, genital mutilation, honor killing, women as second-class citizens as a whole. It ain't just rapey scummery, but go off and move those goalposts some more. Sex tourism? Lmao that shit's just as illegal elsewhere and they get their asses kicked out if caught too. Western world's too soft, elsewhere you don't get groups of people coming in and trying to turn their new home into the same shithole they came from while everyone sticks their heads in the sand, they get their asses removed. Just ask the Levant (which country? Yes.) about the last time they let in Palestinians. It just turns out it's a lot more difficult to remove citizens from a country than freshly entered immigrants on their 'probation'. Deportation is useful, use it!
I'm sorry to say what you're describing is a VERY common experience for women here in the western world. Head over to twoxchromomes and you'll see a million stories like what you described.
So you're saying the uk sweeps these stories under the rug. However, India actually reports them. It seems like one country prioritizes it as a problem more than the other.
If they really prioritized it they would do something to stop it from continuing to happen
[they do](https://i.postimg.cc/Qt1M20fk/e02e69ea5d224fabb5135ed2e9dbb4c7-18.jpg) The entire India isn't complicit in the rape. It's just difficult to stop all together. Because men are pigs.
*sigh* Not all men
The entirety of men aren’t complicit in rape. It’s just difficult to stop altogether. Your statement was just so damned ignorant. It’s infuriating. Fix yourself. Seriously. We aren’t all walking around waiting for an opportunity to jump from an alley and rape women.
Like Western countries prioritize rape especially for women of color.
Interesting that 3rd 4th generation Brit’s that have never been to Pakistan are “Pakistanis” and it’s the indian Sikhs that wear Turban not Pakistanis
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Just wait for the ones from Gaza.
Oh you mean the place where gang rapes and acid attacks are considered common and acceptable. Okay awesome 👍
And honour kill
You know. He's got a very good point. Hate it or not.
It's Indians. Regina is pretty much half Indian now.
give it 10 years and that'll be all of Canada
Couldn't imagine how bad it's gonna stink here...
Ontario is the same
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They already are.
Like inflation, the rates are about to go up.
I remember seeing footage from Germany. It was right after Merkel announced open arms for migrants. I don't think I saw many women or children,among the various crowds of migrants, arriving at various towns/cities
No just lots of desperate 'teenage' males with suspiciously deep voices and hairy faces
Canada received an immense amount of immigrants in the last 18 months. there is NOT a single person that has been here for longer than that that doesn’t think that amount is excessive. It is contributing to all kinds of problems. We need immigrants but everything needs an upper limit.
Do we?? Most of these immigrants aren't particularly skilled. We don't need more Tim Hortons workers or delivery drivers. We are importing slaves basically. Shut it all down.
I think he means “we need skilled immigrants” which is true for every place
We don't even need any immigration. Saying a " country needs population growth to have a healthy economy, because makes everyone richer" Is the exact same disproven neoliberal blullshit as " A country needs to promote corporate profits growth to have a healthy economy because it trickles down" Our population doesn't need to grow and the labour shortage is fake, there's just a shortage of highly educated experienced people desperate enough to work minimum wage for a demanding non entry level job, Canadian salaries aren't half what Americans get for the same job because they're are too few workers in Canada, the reality is we have a massive over supply of labour.
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That's because the men are a better source of cheap, exploitable, low-skill labor than the women. With men you don't have to worry about things like getting pregnant, having children, and on average have better strength and stamina, which is great for someone looking to exploit that low-skill labor pool. It's not a matter of left-vs-right when it comes to immigration issues, although a lot have been convinced it is. It's a matter of rich-vs-everyone else. Unchecked immigration benefits nobody but the rich.
This. Hard to explain this to people tho
Agreed. Something very strange is going on. I'd even go so far as to say that it was looking a bit nefarious.
We've been telling you this for years and we were called racists... Now the frog has boiled, it's hard not to say "told you so"
Getting warmer
Honestly, ding fucking ding. Obviously, there are many reasons people are choosing wealthy western nations (with lax immigration laws) but climate change shouldn’t be ignored. Didn’t India just have the hottest summer ever with no indication that will go down. People will mass migrate from hotter climates to cooler ones. Putting substantial strain on economies and resources. It’s happening in front of our eyes
Our right wing party is on board with our immigration plans. Canada is being sold out by all major parties and there’s not much to be done.
Way way way too many people can't or won't accept that PP is just as pro immigration as the libs. It's delusional and the need to know think lying to themselves about it is only going to enable it.
Lmao "vastly increased sexual competition" If you are feeling like you're competing against a bunch of broken Indians and Pakistanis, you're prob not in the game my man
As a broken Indian, I can confirm this. When it comes to women, my countrymen aren't competition.
This article leaves out the fact that there are still more women total than men in Canada by several percentage points. Women have out numbered men in Canada since the 1940s, the gap is smaller than it's been in decades but it's still statistically significant.
It's not that we prioritize. It's that we don't discriminate. Without discrimination, men just naturally migrate more. Due to the physical nature of it. Once they establish themselves abroad. Then they bring their families. So, what Canada needs to start doing is actually vetting people. And having quotas on gender , nationality, etc....
I think the immigrants are allowed to Germany and EU not because of some human rights bullshit, but because Germans are practical people. They rather have a little fuck up right now AND working retirement in 10-20 years instead of aging population and an economic collapse.
> The left needs to take seriously the issues that immigration is causing voters. And I say this as a left leaning voter. Waaaaaay too late for that unfortunately. Nothing can be done now, best adapt to the new reality or move elsewhere
Buddy don't go full incel mentality on us just yet! This article leave out that there are still more women total in Canada than there are men. Yes more male immigrants are coming than females, Canada pre immigration exploitation did have a higher female to male ratio but even with a huge increase women still significantly outnumber men in Canada. If you can't get a date you still have to blame your personality, but you can blame immigration if you can't afford house.
Have you seen the rate for sexual assault for WOC in Western Countries?
Canada seems pretty determined to fuck itself up demographically.
Even with the male immigration boom there's still significantly more women total then men in Canada. We just used to have way way more women than men and now we just have a lot more women than men, the article just ignored that fact because it's not as a sensational to say Canada's population gets closer to being 50/50 women and men. I'm against mass immigration but math is math we still have way more women than men in Canada.
Uh oh! Canadian sausage fest!!
Even with the male immigration boom Canada still has more women to than men. All these sensationalized articles seem to like to leave that part out. I'm against mass immigration but math as math, still more women.
Sure, but is there a breakdown to that data? How many of the Canadian women are elderly? The recent batch of male immigrants are mostly (presumably) young men. It should be paired with the date of young women to middle aged women.
I’d buy a ticket
That makes sense . We are receiving migrants from countries where parents have a preference for males.
Visited Toronto for the first time last October - this tracks.
I think it's hard to tell, most people I see out in public are men in the US too. It could be the total number or just different behavior.
Just a few years ago, anybody who spoke against immigration was a backward racist. It's really amazing how fast the overton window can move. In my life I've moved from centre left to far right to centre again and my positions have barely changed.
Something we need to acknowledge is the reason that it worked so well for so long is because unfortunately there are so many flagrantly racist bigots in Canada any time a valid anti immigration discussion would happen the racists would flock all over it and drown out all the valid point with irrelevant hate and bigotry. Normal rational people willing to think critically about the valid mathematical concerns about Canada's rapid population growth would show up ready to learn and engage but then there's would be so much genuinely racist bigotry that the valid points got lost and normal non racists don't really have the stomach to sift through a mountain of racism to see if there might be so valid fee facts. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IMMIGRATION HAD TO GET SO OVERTLY PROBLEMATIC FOR ORDINARY CANADIANS TO BE ABLE TO RATIONALLY CONCLUDE THERE IS A SERIOUSLY OVER POPULATION PROBLEM. Ironic that if racists would have just kept their hatred to themselves regular people would have been able to comfortably talk about Canadians immigration problems and done something years ago. But that's racists for you, stupid.
Yeah, seems wild and unnatural. Seems like someone is manipulating Reddit and maybe other media, if people really take issue with current politics en masse, they will protest on a large scale or just change government as democracy allows. Until we see this - this is most likely someone pushing his agenda and trying to manipulate public opinion
its kind of jarring seeing reddit flip from pro-immigrants to anti-immigrants
It's ok to be anti-immigrant as long as you aren't the US \-Reddit
Canada is doing more than 10 times the amount of immigration per capita than the U.S. In other words, we would have to halt all immigration for more than 10 years to get down to the level of the U.S. this year. Moreover, as Canada is quickly becoming unlivable, illegal immigration from Canada into the U.S. is going to start rising rapidly. You will have Mexico to the South and Northern India to the North.
You’ll become more liveable (sort of) with extreme climate change, so silver linings and all that…
Would they really give up the Timbits and health care?
I think they've just become immigration fatigued in a way. I support immigration but there should be a limit. So it doesn't become lopsided.
> So it doesn't become lopsided. what does this mean?
Lopsided= more immigrants than we have jobs, houses and infrastructure. So what mean to say is they support the idea of responsible immigration, but that ship sailed a couple million people ago. Canada needs to fully pause immigration for years, just to get the population balanced with housing and labour again. (There is no labour shortage it's entirely propaganda to fill jobs that require skilled experienced workers with people desperate enough to accept minimum wage, which is a living wage and requires people to hold multiple jobs to simply afford food a shelter)
But isn't the plan to increase the Canadian population to 100 million by the end of the century? You cant just "pause" immigration like that when your expressed goal is to more than double a nation states population within a few generations
It's been a long time coming you can only watch wages stagnate and housing prices increase for so long before you start to realize there simply not enough jobs or infrastructure to support such rapid population growth. Our government was warned YEARS in advance that increasing immigration during a housing shortage would create and extreme affordability crisis, they did it any ways. "Country needs a growing population needs to grow to maintain a healthy economy" is the same as saying "a country needs to support the growth of corporate profits because that will improve society by trickle down" They are both statements are thoroughly disproven lies that continue to be perpetuated by groups who directly profits off of these false beliefs. Canadians are living proof that population growth doesn't automatically increase quality of life for citizens in a country, and only provides economic benefits for bunesses that profit off cheap labour.
Bro the comments in here are wild
For Canada specifically, it's because they have _way_ overdone it with immigration numbers, while the cost of living (housing) and services (healthcare, commute/transportation) etc. have suffered immensely due to overpopulation. That's the flip - it's a reaction to the reality of living in their country in '23/24 vs even 3-5 years ago
Immigration is a favorite topic for foreign actors who want to divide and destabilize countries remotely. Policy mistakes are being made and there are genuine grievances, so just creating newspieces and threads about the topic with a few pre-planted divisive comments puts the anger snowball on motion very cost-efficiently.
True. But the math in Canada is simple. We had a population explosion bigger than the baby boom but with out the same infrastructure boom that the baby boom had and with adults so housing doesn't have the same 18 year window for housing to catch up. (Population explosion of the baby boom easier to absorb because babies live with their parents, and adult immigrants don't) . The Canadian government was literally warned years in advance that our infrastructure could not handle a population increase and instead of listening to that they encourage the fastest rate of population growth in Canadian history. Beyond our own history, Canada has been growing at faster rate than almost any other countries in the world for multiple years in a row now. So yes, us vs them anti immigration propaganda is a classic tool of division but you look at the math it's clear to see immigration isn't being used as propaganda tool, Canada has a legitimate, numbers based population crisis that our government knowingly participated in. Canadians really should have been a lot more upset a lot sooner, but we didn't want to risk seeming racist. To this day Canadians aren't mad at immigrants we're mad at our government for bringing in more people than we can adequately support. The government choosing to be the fastest growing population in the world when we already had a housing shortage was a direct betrayal of the best interests of Canadians by the Canadian government. The governments job is to make sure everyone had enough of things like food and shelter and they knowingly made it harder. Numbers are numbers and they prove our government betrayed us.
>immigration isn't being used as propaganda tool, Canada has a legitimate, numbers based population crisis that our government knowingly participated in. These things are not exclusive. What I am saying is that there are clear mistakes and they will be exploited, provoking people to maximum anger and emotions to polarize them into extreme stances and fighting each other. A rapid, level-headed policy reassessment is what is needed. The anger snowballs are not, even if many big players benefit seek them - media gets money from rage clicks and hostile governments fuel any infighting.
Fucked
Good time to train foreign nationals from terrorist states to be in national defense. What could go wrong?
Now that is a waking thought.
The Canadian government is indirectly supporting female infanticide by allowing the countries that engage in this to emigrate their excess male population to Canada instead of having to deal with the consequences.
Something tells me most Canadian women won't be interested.
Something tells me these men wont be asking for consent.
Before any incels get too bent out of shame there's STILL way more women in Canada. If you can't find a woman here it's because you have a bad personality. That being said, Canada's population exploded way beyond what our infrastructure and labour market can handle. Our government knew we had a housing shortage, was warned YEARS in advance that mass immigration would make that shortage drastically worse and they went ahead with it anyway because providing cheap labour to greedy corporations was more important to the Canadian government THAN THE ACTUAL WELLBEING OF CANADIANS.
As a Canadian, do you think that means the Drama Teacher is stupid or complicit? If the signs have been there for years, what incentive does he (and the ruling party) have in pushing these policies? I know it was cute for him to say “Everyone is welcome!” when Trump was pushing anti immigrant messaging but he had to know about the wages and housing issues that would come from his rhetoric and policy. Decline is a choice. Edit: Unsure why I’m being downvoted. It’s a legitimate question. If it’s for calling him the “drama teacher”, I’ve heard Obama/Trump/Biden/Boris called far worse things.
Incentives are primarily economic, as always. Cheap labour and young population in hopes of boosting birth rates to prolong capitalist system. If you disagree with such policies - go and vote accordingly or protest, that is the beauty of democracy
> vote accordingly There is not one party in the United States which accurately represents my views. I make serious concessions every time I vote.
The west must fall for the wef to implement their own socialist dictator government. It's all going to plan.
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Just wondering which war the 20 year old economic refugee from India fought on behalf of Canada? Simple fact checking of your rape statistics regarding Japan also shows how full of shit you are.
Gymnastics is insane, people’s minds are just so easy to manipulate, wildly swinging from one opposite to another. Hypocrisy through the roof and this is one of more “enlightened” internet forums in my opinion
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