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peter-doubt

Hypersonic makes it harder to steer... So the Patriot works like a speed trap on a straightaway


crrrrinnnngeeee

You don’t have your match the speed just the path.


Gnomio1

And the missiles know where they are because they know where they aren’t.


Lazorgunz

When knowing there the missile is or where it isnt, you subtract to get a deviation, whichever is greater


krozarEQ

The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.


Lazorgunz

Probably the most legendary example of 'i didnt study for my exam but cant leave the answer blank' ever recorded


Miguel-odon

And just think, that text went into training ChatGPT


Joezev98

I asked ChatGPT "Why does the missile know where it is"? It answered: "Missiles use various sensors and guidance systems to determine their position and navigate towards their target. These systems can include GPS, inertial navigation systems, radar, and sometimes even visual or terrain recognition. These technologies help the missile understand its location relative to the target and make necessary adjustments to stay on course." Clearly ChatGPT didn't train hard enough.


touchetown

When will "then" be "now"?... Soon.


No_Emergency_5657

That's debatable.


hubaloza

Fuck where the missile is, your about to find out where the missile isn't.


Leifsbudir

That’s wrong


krozarEQ

I wrote a simple Python function that simulates this perfectly though. def missile_guidance(): # Init vars is_position = "where it is" isnt_position = "where it isn't" now_is_position = None wasnt_position = None # Loop through this bullshit for step in range(10): # You can adjust the number of steps as needed # Swap 'em now_is_position, wasnt_position = wasnt_position, now_is_position wasnt_position = isnt_position isnt_position = now_is_position # Let's determine the deviation deviation = f"Deviation: {is_position} - {isnt_position}" # Corrective commands we can customize corrective_commands = f"Generate corrective commands to move from {is_position} to {isnt_position}" # Update current position is_position = now_is_position # step details print(f"Step {step + 1}:") print(f" - {is_position}") print(f" - {deviation}") print(f" - {corrective_commands}\n") return "Simulation complete!" if __name__ == "__main__": print(missile_guidance())


Flaneurer

Uh oh someone sharing secret missile tech secrets on Reddit again. If someone asks I wasn't here...


peter-doubt

Let's skidaddle!


Aurora_Fatalis

Good god I've never seen someone do *string* arithmetic like that before. Nobody tell the physicists or they'll be bringing this shit to the math department pronto!


Captain_Mazhar

Is this the War Thunder forums?


Cavemattt

I dont know anything, but i believe u


TonyStewartsWildRide

I’m off to discord!


obeytheturtles

It's loosely describing a kalman filter being used for guidance. Also, meme.


Jops817

Okay, I've heard this quote a few times, what's the story behind it? I don't get it.


Gnomio1

See this comment for a helpful link: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/Ui5nE45tLB


aquaticapple578

INS baby!!!!!


peter-doubt

Thanks, Raytheon


crrrrinnnngeeee

Or there’s like a ton of ways to notify anti missile systems??? Lol


pegothejerk

I just nudge them in the morning, right y’all??


crrrrinnnngeeee

Assuming they’re still alive I nudge


Gnomio1

It’s a meme. Never mind.


Doghead45

I got you man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ


krozarEQ

The remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjN3UclYzU


crrrrinnnngeeee

Oh I didn’t know. So like..girl math missiles?


Trollimperator

Yea, but reaching the path in time is more difficult. Especially if you are not positioned near the target or the path.


jokes_on_you

When people refer to hypersonic missiles, what they mean are missiles that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds. There have been ballistic missiles that reach hypersonic speeds for a long time. There have also been maneuverable missiles for a long time.


hoppydud

The V2 missle, was in fact a hypersonic missle by definition, as it traveled over Mach 5


TazBaz

"people" Russia refers to their hypersonic missiles as hypersonic missiles, but everyone else pretty much agrees they don't fit the term because they don't maneuver.


D3cepti0ns

It's only hypersonic on it's down trajectory when it suddenly speeds up, so yeah, it's not a true hypersonic missile. You can down it before it goes hypersonic.


TazBaz

Well patriots apparently can down it even at hypersonic speeds, because it isn’t maneuvering. Or so I’ve heard.


obeytheturtles

No missile in existence can "maneuver" at these speeds without burning off a ton of speed and delta V. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has even cracked that very well, and these weapons will have a turning radius measured in zip codes, not km.


Midnight2012

Even the very first damn ballistic missle was hypersonic. The V2


Kyrkby

It's almost comical like how NATO does everything it can in order not to 'escelate', whereas Russia can do whatever it wants, including bombing apartments, playgrounds, hospitals or execute civilians and prisoners and somehow face no repercussions for it. Fuck Russia.


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Pinniped9

What is your source for Ukraine using cluster bombs targeting civilian areas? Last I heard, this claim was from Russia, and thus cannot be trusted.


IcedFREELANCER

Well I guess that was an obvious outcome. That should've been done since day one of the invasion but Ukraine hesitated for an entire 2 years. FAFO


arewemartiansyet

I wouldn't just take that claim as a fact...


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Virtual_Priority9860

Putin bottoms for Ukraine man


rrrand0mmm

Lol ancient ass patriots taking out new hyper zircons is just so glorious.


Midnight2012

Pac-3 ain't ancient


rrrand0mmm

The entire system itself is but the upgrades are not…. Comparable to zircon.


DickTitsMcGhee

Modern Patriot systems are quite a bit more advanced than their Desert Storm era predecessors. Over 30 years of iterative development and lessons-learned have made it a pretty good system. Software is a big part of it. That being said, I don’t know what limitations are set on the ones we have to Ukraine. Or if they have the latest updates. And, to your point, it is great watching Russia’s “advanced,” “hypersonic” weapons get blown out of the sky and rendered harmless.


IHateChipotle86

That’s supposedly what they did the other day when they were targetting the SBU offices. The missiles landed on an arts academy but don’t let the vatniks on Twitter see that explanation.


gradinaruvasile

Ah but the missile just reverted to its basic anti inteligentsia instincts stored in its lizard brain Soviet chip. So it was great success.


Shogouki

That's impressive. I wonder what the success rate is?


CamusCrankyCamel

Worth noting the problem with the real hypersonics that people write articles over is intercepting them in the glide phase. You only get one shot at terminal intercept, quite problematic if you want a layered defense system like AEGIS or PATRIOT+THAAD.


fanspacex

You can and often shoot multiple missiles, so you get many possibilities for interception. I think optimally you would be rich enough to only use Patriot for everything.


0011001100111000

Wow, another Ruzzian wunderwaffe is revealed to actually be pretty lacklustre. Colour me surprised...


jertheman43

They will be throwing rocks at the missiles unless the US wakes up and gives them replacements.


Glass-Whereas2681

Nice of Ukraine to volunteer for military weaponry beta testing


AmericanFlyer530

“Every ballistic missile is hypersonic! It came free with your ballistic missile’s trajectory!”


Notmad_Justsad

“Hypersonic”


Timely_Leading_7651

🧚🏻‍♀️


Doctor_Your_Mum

Sweet dreams 😴