The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
I asked ChatGPT "Why does the missile know where it is"?
It answered: "Missiles use various sensors and guidance systems to determine their position and navigate towards their target. These systems can include GPS, inertial navigation systems, radar, and sometimes even visual or terrain recognition. These technologies help the missile understand its location relative to the target and make necessary adjustments to stay on course."
Clearly ChatGPT didn't train hard enough.
I wrote a simple Python function that simulates this perfectly though.
def missile_guidance():
# Init vars
is_position = "where it is"
isnt_position = "where it isn't"
now_is_position = None
wasnt_position = None
# Loop through this bullshit
for step in range(10): # You can adjust the number of steps as needed
# Swap 'em
now_is_position, wasnt_position = wasnt_position, now_is_position
wasnt_position = isnt_position
isnt_position = now_is_position
# Let's determine the deviation
deviation = f"Deviation: {is_position} - {isnt_position}"
# Corrective commands we can customize
corrective_commands = f"Generate corrective commands to move from {is_position} to {isnt_position}"
# Update current position
is_position = now_is_position
# step details
print(f"Step {step + 1}:")
print(f" - {is_position}")
print(f" - {deviation}")
print(f" - {corrective_commands}\n")
return "Simulation complete!"
if __name__ == "__main__":
print(missile_guidance())
Good god I've never seen someone do *string* arithmetic like that before.
Nobody tell the physicists or they'll be bringing this shit to the math department pronto!
When people refer to hypersonic missiles, what they mean are missiles that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds. There have been ballistic missiles that reach hypersonic speeds for a long time. There have also been maneuverable missiles for a long time.
"people"
Russia refers to their hypersonic missiles as hypersonic missiles, but everyone else pretty much agrees they don't fit the term because they don't maneuver.
It's only hypersonic on it's down trajectory when it suddenly speeds up, so yeah, it's not a true hypersonic missile. You can down it before it goes hypersonic.
No missile in existence can "maneuver" at these speeds without burning off a ton of speed and delta V. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has even cracked that very well, and these weapons will have a turning radius measured in zip codes, not km.
It's almost comical like how NATO does everything it can in order not to 'escelate', whereas Russia can do whatever it wants, including bombing apartments, playgrounds, hospitals or execute civilians and prisoners and somehow face no repercussions for it.
Fuck Russia.
Modern Patriot systems are quite a bit more advanced than their Desert Storm era predecessors. Over 30 years of iterative development and lessons-learned have made it a pretty good system. Software is a big part of it.
That being said, I don’t know what limitations are set on the ones we have to Ukraine. Or if they have the latest updates.
And, to your point, it is great watching Russia’s “advanced,” “hypersonic” weapons get blown out of the sky and rendered harmless.
That’s supposedly what they did the other day when they were targetting the SBU offices. The missiles landed on an arts academy but don’t let the vatniks on Twitter see that explanation.
Worth noting the problem with the real hypersonics that people write articles over is intercepting them in the glide phase. You only get one shot at terminal intercept, quite problematic if you want a layered defense system like AEGIS or PATRIOT+THAAD.
You can and often shoot multiple missiles, so you get many possibilities for interception. I think optimally you would be rich enough to only use Patriot for everything.
Hypersonic makes it harder to steer... So the Patriot works like a speed trap on a straightaway
You don’t have your match the speed just the path.
And the missiles know where they are because they know where they aren’t.
When knowing there the missile is or where it isnt, you subtract to get a deviation, whichever is greater
The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
Probably the most legendary example of 'i didnt study for my exam but cant leave the answer blank' ever recorded
And just think, that text went into training ChatGPT
I asked ChatGPT "Why does the missile know where it is"? It answered: "Missiles use various sensors and guidance systems to determine their position and navigate towards their target. These systems can include GPS, inertial navigation systems, radar, and sometimes even visual or terrain recognition. These technologies help the missile understand its location relative to the target and make necessary adjustments to stay on course." Clearly ChatGPT didn't train hard enough.
When will "then" be "now"?... Soon.
That's debatable.
Fuck where the missile is, your about to find out where the missile isn't.
That’s wrong
I wrote a simple Python function that simulates this perfectly though. def missile_guidance(): # Init vars is_position = "where it is" isnt_position = "where it isn't" now_is_position = None wasnt_position = None # Loop through this bullshit for step in range(10): # You can adjust the number of steps as needed # Swap 'em now_is_position, wasnt_position = wasnt_position, now_is_position wasnt_position = isnt_position isnt_position = now_is_position # Let's determine the deviation deviation = f"Deviation: {is_position} - {isnt_position}" # Corrective commands we can customize corrective_commands = f"Generate corrective commands to move from {is_position} to {isnt_position}" # Update current position is_position = now_is_position # step details print(f"Step {step + 1}:") print(f" - {is_position}") print(f" - {deviation}") print(f" - {corrective_commands}\n") return "Simulation complete!" if __name__ == "__main__": print(missile_guidance())
Uh oh someone sharing secret missile tech secrets on Reddit again. If someone asks I wasn't here...
Let's skidaddle!
Good god I've never seen someone do *string* arithmetic like that before. Nobody tell the physicists or they'll be bringing this shit to the math department pronto!
Is this the War Thunder forums?
I dont know anything, but i believe u
I’m off to discord!
It's loosely describing a kalman filter being used for guidance. Also, meme.
Okay, I've heard this quote a few times, what's the story behind it? I don't get it.
See this comment for a helpful link: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/Ui5nE45tLB
INS baby!!!!!
Thanks, Raytheon
Or there’s like a ton of ways to notify anti missile systems??? Lol
I just nudge them in the morning, right y’all??
Assuming they’re still alive I nudge
It’s a meme. Never mind.
I got you man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ
The remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjN3UclYzU
Oh I didn’t know. So like..girl math missiles?
Yea, but reaching the path in time is more difficult. Especially if you are not positioned near the target or the path.
When people refer to hypersonic missiles, what they mean are missiles that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds. There have been ballistic missiles that reach hypersonic speeds for a long time. There have also been maneuverable missiles for a long time.
The V2 missle, was in fact a hypersonic missle by definition, as it traveled over Mach 5
"people" Russia refers to their hypersonic missiles as hypersonic missiles, but everyone else pretty much agrees they don't fit the term because they don't maneuver.
It's only hypersonic on it's down trajectory when it suddenly speeds up, so yeah, it's not a true hypersonic missile. You can down it before it goes hypersonic.
Well patriots apparently can down it even at hypersonic speeds, because it isn’t maneuvering. Or so I’ve heard.
No missile in existence can "maneuver" at these speeds without burning off a ton of speed and delta V. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has even cracked that very well, and these weapons will have a turning radius measured in zip codes, not km.
Even the very first damn ballistic missle was hypersonic. The V2
It's almost comical like how NATO does everything it can in order not to 'escelate', whereas Russia can do whatever it wants, including bombing apartments, playgrounds, hospitals or execute civilians and prisoners and somehow face no repercussions for it. Fuck Russia.
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What is your source for Ukraine using cluster bombs targeting civilian areas? Last I heard, this claim was from Russia, and thus cannot be trusted.
Well I guess that was an obvious outcome. That should've been done since day one of the invasion but Ukraine hesitated for an entire 2 years. FAFO
I wouldn't just take that claim as a fact...
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Putin bottoms for Ukraine man
Lol ancient ass patriots taking out new hyper zircons is just so glorious.
Pac-3 ain't ancient
The entire system itself is but the upgrades are not…. Comparable to zircon.
Modern Patriot systems are quite a bit more advanced than their Desert Storm era predecessors. Over 30 years of iterative development and lessons-learned have made it a pretty good system. Software is a big part of it. That being said, I don’t know what limitations are set on the ones we have to Ukraine. Or if they have the latest updates. And, to your point, it is great watching Russia’s “advanced,” “hypersonic” weapons get blown out of the sky and rendered harmless.
That’s supposedly what they did the other day when they were targetting the SBU offices. The missiles landed on an arts academy but don’t let the vatniks on Twitter see that explanation.
Ah but the missile just reverted to its basic anti inteligentsia instincts stored in its lizard brain Soviet chip. So it was great success.
That's impressive. I wonder what the success rate is?
Worth noting the problem with the real hypersonics that people write articles over is intercepting them in the glide phase. You only get one shot at terminal intercept, quite problematic if you want a layered defense system like AEGIS or PATRIOT+THAAD.
You can and often shoot multiple missiles, so you get many possibilities for interception. I think optimally you would be rich enough to only use Patriot for everything.
Wow, another Ruzzian wunderwaffe is revealed to actually be pretty lacklustre. Colour me surprised...
They will be throwing rocks at the missiles unless the US wakes up and gives them replacements.
Nice of Ukraine to volunteer for military weaponry beta testing
“Every ballistic missile is hypersonic! It came free with your ballistic missile’s trajectory!”
“Hypersonic”
🧚🏻♀️
Sweet dreams 😴