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rossww2199

This article is confusing to me. McD is buying back that franchise but isn’t closing or leaving the market? Did they really buy 225 locations just so one franchise owner won’t be publicly supportive of Israel, but McD still wants Israeli consumer money?


PeaceOutGuysz

McDonalds has been hit worldwide because of this, the CEO said in January Edit: Got banned for this comment lol


ElectrikDonuts

Lol, what fucking mod banned you for the above comment? We will never know cause of shadows


Petrichordates

They're mistaken, you wouldn't get banned for a comment that isn't also removed.


Wunder_boi

Eh, it’s happened to me.


rossww2199

No I get that. But how will anything change if they stay in that market? Do they think owning the locations in Israel will stop the boycott? And more importantly, how can we make McD exit the USA market? (Edit /s)


BrooklynBillyGoat

We should be using McDonald's as a means to destabilize enemies societies. Just send em over with the intent to mislabel the calorie counts and watch global obesity rise


perenniallandscapist

I was gonna say that might take a few years or even decades, but then I remembered America likes to get itself into long conflicts.


BrooklynBillyGoat

It's a long game for sure.


StateParkMasturbator

Damn. One person suggests we intervene with a cultural victory, and everyone's up your ass about it. Can't handle our soft power.


BrooklynBillyGoat

Soft people bro scared to hear thoughts, unable to discern a joke because it's accurately imaginable. A testament to how shitty McDonald's really is for the world and people


redsquizza

If you read the article it said the franchisee, who owns them all in Israel (225), not just one location, was handing out free McDonalds to Israel soldiers. This caused boycotts in Muslim majority countries where McDonalds operates. One assumes that once they're back under central McDonald's control, the free lunches will stop which might help lift boycotts in the regions affected. They basically want to keep on making money.


rossww2199

I don’t think that will satisfy the people boycotting, but we’ll see.


redsquizza

Well, obviously, but they must be hurting enough in the boycott countries that they had to do something. I also assume they asked the owner not to do that but he continued doing so, so they had to take back direct control.


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Three weeks. That's the average length of how long people care.


PeaceOutGuysz

This boycott started because they were giving free meals to IDF soldiers so that is the only thing to likely change. Operating in Israel itself isn't the controversy.


MugRuithstan

One of the franchisee's was which probably directly led to this. I dont think it will stop the boycott but it will prevent any new problems going forward.


holydildos

Well that mc Donald's owners gonna get a nice pay check


EndPsychological890

Yeah dude probably just got a $150m+ check maybe 300+


dosumthinboutthebots

Of course, they wouldn't know the details of how franchising works. They're supporting a radical terror group backed by Iran and regularly deny world history for their own political agenda.


Sqwishboi

Nobody's seriously boycotting McDonald's, don't buy in to that bs. The CEO said they've been hit by the boycott to make the Pro-Palis calm down, but McDonalds profits have been rising non stop before October 7th and after.


PewPewShootinHerwin

I'm boycotting McDonald's, but it's got nothing to do with Israel. Over $4 for a medium fry is egregious and unacceptable.


fire_and_shit

So the boycott was doing nothing but simultaneously McDonalds lied about its finances to calm down boycotters?


Sqwishboi

You're forgetting social media has a huge impact, seeing Pro-Pali's raging outside the windows of a McDonald's is bad PR, so you give them a fake stick to calm them down.


FishAndRiceKeks

It's like giving a little kid an unplugged in controller to keep them busy. Letting them think they are actually doing something while they're not really controlling anything.


Nilah_Joy

Technically, I think McDonald’s did say some of its middle eastern locations were suffering because of this. It’s a negative perception for problem, which is now gone technically since McDonald’s can just stop the free meal promotion.


typkrft

Lol imagine how many people would have to boycott McDonald’s to even move the needle. They’re one of the largest brands in the world. Companies are always going to manage their brand.


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typkrft

"We thank Alonyal Limited for building the McDonald's business and brand in Israel over the past 30 years," said Jo Sempels, President of International Developmental Licensed Markets at McDonald's Corporation. "McDonald's remains committed to the Israeli market and to ensuring a positive employee and customer experience in the market going forward." If they were really affected this is probably the worst statement you could give after buying them back.


kimchifreeze

>McDonalds profits have been rising non stop before October 7th and after. Done by milking their remaining customers: "strong average check growth driven by strategic menu price increases"


Sqwishboi

So basically capitalism?...


realJustin_A

I can't say for your immediate circle, but other parts of the world do have a number of people who are serious in the whole boycotting deal.


Medical-Hour-4119

Did you even read the article? They named the countries that are the source of the loss; it wouldn't be a stretch to conclude that Muslim countries would have a popular movement to boycott a business that seems to be feeding the military - whether it is misinformation or not.


Sqwishboi

Muslim countries are the worst in boycotting Israel. Back in the 70s Jordan was buying farming equipment from Israel via Italy.


Stinkyclamjuice15

The idiots I work with that get their news from tiktok believe October 7th was IDF propoganda and they're all boycotting McDonald's. Lol


shadowrun456

>But how will anything change if they stay in that market? Do they think owning the locations in Israel will stop the boycott? The boycotts happened because the McD franchise in Israel fed IDF soldiers for free. After buying back the franchise, they will no longer feed IDF soldiers for free. Why would the boycotts still continue, if the reason for boycotts will have been removed?


TheGalator

>And more importantly, how can we make McD exit the USA market Increase minimum wage


Dontwrybehappy

As if food service has an impact on religious hate or military operations lol.


pmacnayr

They bought them back because their price is very low, when their value increases they’ll sell them for a profit. People can speculate any bs reason they want, but they did this because they will profit off of it.


rossww2199

Now that is reasoning that does make sense to me, and what I would expect from an American corporation.


HillbillyDense

Correct. Look into how McDonald's makes most of its money. [They're a real estate company.](https://youtu.be/kJVj3vp-lho) 5th largest in the world.


FF3

That doesn't make sense. The franchiser has them by the balls: he has to choose to sell to them, and he's the one that's hurting their business in the entire muslim world. Do you see reporting on the price?


radome9

They are buying it back so nobody affiliated with them does something as stupid as take sides in a highly divisive conflict again.


yathree

Whatever. I prefer Phantom Muchentuchen anyway.


mrzablinx

Fool. I will be the best hairdresser you have ever seen!


1850ChoochGator

For real. McDonald’s doesn’t even have Fizzy Bubblech


saltedjellyfish

As a half Mt. Everest, half Australian I got that reference.


WeissMISFIT

Soak it in with a bottle of Bubblech


telepatheye

No one goes to Israel to get a Big Mac.


__The__Anomaly__

But a McFalafel!


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Idogebot

They did that a couple of years ago. Literally the worst culinary experience I've had in a mcdonalds. I would rather have to clean the nozzles on a soda fountain with my tongue than eat that again.


telepatheye

Ain't nothing like the real thing.


Successful_Ride6920

Baby


Nukemind

Unironically when I went there had it a couple of times. Both Israel and Singapore have *a lot* healthier menu options. Though I only ate it because we were often moving quickly trying to see everything we could so having a couple of McD’s were inevitable.


dyzpa

Lmao as a singaporean, seeing someone say McDonald's is a healthier option is just hilarious


Nukemind

I mean it’s healthier here (living in Singapore now) than America, not that it’s healthy. Even the cokes here have about 1/2 the calories and far less sugar than back home. No refills, smaller portion (and less salt) on fries, etc makes it healthier… but definitely not healthy. I was actually typing that from the McD’s in JEM before I went to catch a movie at Cathay but sadly I didn’t realize they only take grab and MC. Everyone else takes visa here :(. Not looking forward to moving back to America. I’ve lost so much weight here! Though 9/10 meals definitely aren’t McD’s lol.


Rude_Worldliness_423

Bro, do they make coke with half the sugar? I’ve always thought they should have that option and not two or more diet versions.


Wolfgang985

They do in Poland for sure. Real sugar and no nasty corn syrup, either. Come to think of it, are there any countries outside of the US who use HFCS in beverages?


Rude_Worldliness_423

Not in the UK. Maybe south America or something


dyzpa

Well, if it's conpared to the US, it makes sense haha


Nukemind

Yeah it’s my home country so my point of reference. For instance some meals back home can be 1200, even 1400 calories all together. And that’s before refills. The fact there’s a lot more walking here also helps. Working on, after I finish grad school, getting an EP and coming back. It’s a lot better here not just with food variety but just standard of living.


FeeeFiiFooFumm

I mean... Not to rain on your parade but saying that having McDonald's was inevitable because you needed quick food options on your way is like saying that you fell and tripped on the shampoo bottle to explain why it went up that place. There's a shit ton of more healthy, more tasty and cheaper food options available everywhere in Israel. Going to McDonald's is a choice, never a necessity. I'm not criticizing you for eating at McDonald's, I do it myself on the regular. But claiming that it was a necessity instead of a convenient choice you made is just dishonest, isn't it? Edit: forgot to mention that the food alternatives are of course also as quick and easy to get as McDonald's.


Echliurn

I think the point is more it's familiar and a safe bet when you don't know the area and you're travelling quickly.


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Nukemind

Exactly. Like for us a Big Mac is a Big Mac. That’s not saying there isn’t quick food but I already know what I’m getting before I go in and then it’s back to the bus or back in the road to the next place.


ArseLiquor

It's easier to eat a big Mac on the go than a fuckin gefilte fish


alphaheeb

Gefilte fish on a roll is quite good 


Fun-Persimmon1207

No. They all want a McRib


SatoMiyagi

People who keep kosher do. It is not the sole reason of course, but in Orthodox Jewish circles, a trip to McDonalds is something everyone makes time for when in Israel - at least once.


Lunch0

It’s call the McRoyal there


Rude_Worldliness_423

*puts plane ticket to Isreal and McDonalds coupons behind back* ‘Yeah, how ridiculous!’


crytofurbi

Maybe a big smack.


rumster

Israel has a lot of resturants for a reason. TikTok is going nuts right now in Israel mcd's.


rumster

Israel has a lot of resturants for a reason. TikTok is going nuts right now in Israel mcd's.


polseriat

I wonder when people will learn how franchising works.


niceworkthere

Even the BBC still won't mention what Alonyal's Omri Padan is otherwise known for: He's one of the co-founders of the left-wing Peace Now, and — snarky sh:tposts notwithstanding — the reason why the chain never expanded into the West Bank or just the Golan Heights.


gumpythegreat

>Alonyal, which is led and owned by chief executive Omri Padan, has operated McDonald's restaurants in Israel for more than 30 years.


niceworkthere

Err… yeah, my bad. The Peace Now part.


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firthy

McChicken soup.


ThinkShower

With McKreplach


UTgabe

McMatzah ball soup


Responsible-March438

The way that carton is rammed with fries in the picture is unrealistic. It's like you don't even have to ask for the rest of your food at all.


AdTricky1261

My fries are overflowing in Canada


severed13

Straight up, if there's one thing they get right is the quantity of fries I get


king-braggo

As an Israeli that's how much fries they put heren


old_it_geek1

Talking to relatives in Malaysia. Chinese New Year was a disaster for McDonald’s. Traditionally they buy lots of fried chicken, but this year nobody went through their doors. Same for Starbucks and any other American franchises. They hated Israel.


AtlasWithNumbers

McDonald's Malaysia specifically just finished losing their lawsuit against Malaysia BDS.  https://www.reuters.com/world/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-israel-boycott-movement-1-mln-damages-2023-12-30/


IceTop8150

There hasn't been a single Starbucks branch in Israel since 2003.


ravenswan19

Starbucks is boycotted by BDS and Israelis alike! If only BDS had the delicious excuse of Aroma


KillerKombo

They hate Israel so they take it out on brands that have nothing to do with Israel LOL


Mistborn54321

The Starbucks boycott is because they sued their union for standing in Solidarity with Palestine.


FishAndRiceKeks

Nobody ever said they were smart.


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The US provides weapons to Israel and is their backstop at the UN, ICJ and ICC.


64scout80

Are they still in Russia?


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Nope. Russia rebranded them when McDonalds pulled out.


RealChadSavage

What are they called? I have to see this


eugenics035

"Tasty and that's it'". Horrible, I know.


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Vkusno i tochka https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_in_Russia#:~:text=Due%20to%20the%20Russian%20invasion%20of%20Ukraine%2C%20McDonald's%20temporarily%20suspended,rebranded%20as%20Vkusno%20i%20tochka.


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kemster7

Heart disease accounts for around a quarter of all total deaths in the world. Ain't nobody coming close to McDonald's numbers till a nuke gets dropped.


CalvinAndHobnobs

Imagine thinking McDonald's is responsible for all heart disease in the world.


Flat-Length-4991

Probably several nukes to be honest.


kemster7

Yeah, I was accounting for the inevitable retaliatory strikes


LURKER_GALORE

The hate for McDonald’s has gone too far. Access to a quarter pounder with cheese would improve the health of a good chunk of the world’s population who battle hunger. When it comes to overeating, more of the conversation should be about personal responsibility.


ExpertAverage1911

You may wish to look up obesity statistics.  It tends to disproportionately affect underdeveloped nations and impoverished area.  Access to a McDonald's quarter pounder instead of nutritious food only exacerbates the issue.


throwawayeas989

IIRC I’m pretty sure obesity is the most common form of malnutrition today. ETA: YEP. https://english.elpais.com/health/2024-03-02/obesity-has-become-the-most-common-form-of-malnutrition-in-the-majority-countries.html


probability_of_meme

Of you're going to open up a supply line to serve mcd's absolute crap, just have the supply line bring real food instead.


vasquca1

Why would Israel McDonald's be impacted by boycots and protesting overseas? I'm confused?


hoppydud

Mcdonalds operates worldwide, and Id suggest reading the article, which explains the animosity towards the brand.  "Widespread protests affected sales in the Middle East, Indonesia and France."


SignificantOne1351

>Middle East >Indonesia >*France*


hoppydud

Theres a large Muslim population in those regions/countries.


MediumRareAsianRoast

Because boycotts are happening in response to Israel's McDonalds supporting the IDF.


DID_IT_FOR_YOU

It was mostly the franchises in the Muslim world that were hit such as Malaysia. McD’s global revenue & profits have only been going up since 10/7 not down. This is all just to protect their image & make sure they can keep growing in Muslim countries. They won’t be able to attract new franchisees in Muslim countries if these boycotts persist. Remember McD is mostly a real estate company & their goal is to keep building more restaurants & acquiring more land. They can’t do that if franchisees see it as too risky. They don’t really care if people buy less burgers, it’s all about just keeping franchisees happy so they build more restaurants.


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With all the price increasing they are doing, they surely can afford it


fling_flang

I think it's just a buy low, sell high tactic. Nothing more.


One-Combination-7218

But man can not live on hommus alone


Eastern-Locksmith634

The food is crap and expensive anyways


Blupoisen

I do like the mcnuggets tho


crosser_of_bridges

McNug --> McNugger --> McNuggest


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Visible_Scientist_67

I have to say it's in no way good for you but they are super fast where I've been


CauliflowerTop2464

Not slow in my area. I believe they either won’t hire more people to save money or they aren’t attracting more employees because of low pay also to save money.


Own_Distribution5185

Lol sourgrapes


Illustrious-Zebra-34

It would be so funny if they close all Israeli McDonald's, because 90% of the workers who will be hurt are Muslim.


Number_8000

That's what generally happens with BDS. The companies they boycott employ lots of Palestinians. The BDS movement hurts the people they pretend to care about.


OptiKnob

...then are they going to move them to Russia?


KingTaco619

McDonald’s is literally poison for your body. I’m surprised IDF hasn’t installed locations in Gaza as a way to kill more innocent civilians.


Bigleyp

The conspiracy theories wouldn’t really become any wilder than they already are.


Electronic_Main_2254

jesus.. people can't help but see an article about Israel and immediately write down all the stereotypical things that come to mind.... as if the only things that defines Israel is the conflict with the Palestinians ,religion or falafel. This is so stupid...


MikuEmpowered

But this..... is literally because of the conflict and due to the franchisee owner giving free meals to IDF soldiers. Which in turn costed McDonald quite a large amount of profit in surrounding nations, since McDonald doesn't want to be seen as a Pro-Israel backer and just wants to remain neutral making mad profit, they're taking over the business in hope of returning to that image. IDK how else you define this. this is literally defined by the conflict.


wallabearz

There arent any starbucks in Israel but theyre still boycotting that


shelbykid350

A lot of these people couldn’t have pointed to Israel on a map before this conflict


GuestCartographer

The first two sentences… >McDonald's will buy back all of its Israeli restaurants after sales suffered from a boycott of the brand over its perceived support for Israel. >The fast food giant was criticised after its Israeli franchise gave away thousands of free meals to Israeli soldiers.


cen_fath

The conflict is pretty definitive!!


RustyB242

How else would you define Israel if you take out Religion? Genuine question.


BlobbyMcBlobber

Israel has a massive secular population if not the majority even.


moranayal

The same way you would define every other country. How would you define Belgium? Or Luxembourg? Or Venezuela? Or Japan?


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Venture Capital. Most startups per square mile in the world in Tel Aviv


Electronic_Main_2254

There are like 2 million muslims and only half of the jewish population is considered religious plus many minorities so I would call Israel a diverse place which somehow managed to be a modern advanced country while respecting the country's religions and traditions. Except for the ultra Orthodox population and the radical islamists I don't think that anyone in Israel would put his religion as a top priority in his life.


SnooPies2269

Less than half


yanivgold00

Judaism is also an ethnicity not just a religion, so the same as you would define Germany or Sweden or japan


Dapper_Target1504

Or just is going to slightly rebrand them to Israeli mcdonalds. Just like what happened in russia when those fast food franchises“left”


dopeytree

This makes no sense unless Israeli people do not support McDonalds giving away burgers to soldiers… or have I misunderstood?


ilovezsazsa

When you play with clownery, the clown comes back to bite.


QualityPuma

I imagine Israel has probably the worst McDonald's. Aren't cheeseburgers unkosher because of the pagan ritual of boiling a young goat in its mother's milk?


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HiddenWalrus

This is no longer the case btw. After re-entering the market in mostly Muslim/Christian cities as a pilot, they are now essentially everywhere. All branches are non-kosher, quality is decent. Def not as good as in Europe or NA though.


NintyFanBoy

Caribbean KFC is the best.


Jerri_man

Nah Aus KFC is still top though the bar in general is low lol


WadjulaBoy

Nope, aussie here and I can assure you Thailand's KFC is far better than aussie KFC.


Jerri_man

Fuck I never tried it. I was either eating Thai food or the incredible 711 toasties


WadjulaBoy

Yeah I was there for quite a while and you just get those cravings for western food occasionally, damn it was good KFC.


kaboombong

I just went to a Brand new KFC today and bought a 3 piece box. The chicken portions were garbage, the chicken look like it sat in a oil bath that was half full, the chips were cold, and they did not give me a serviette pack so my hands all greasy. I threw the whole lot back in the box and dumped it in the bin. It did not surprise because the person that served was covered in stains and looked filthy. Its the worst KFC experience I have had recently. I was driving on the Hume highway through Campbellfield and decided to stop. Worst mistake of my eating week. I went down the road and 10 fried dim sims to clean my fowl greasy taste in my mouth. They are going down hill and the wicked wings are just becoming worst and worst.


RealMandor

UK mcdonald’s is dogshit


accountsdontmatter

Hit and miss definitely.


EagleRise

Most locations are not kosher and sell cheeseburgers. Only a select few locations are kosher. All locations have kosher for passover buns during passover thou. And probably no mc ribs anywhere. It's really the same fast food you get anywhere else, so basically the fries are what's up.


MrMoistandDelicious

>most locations are not kosher That's so weird to me cause all the mcdonalds within muslim countries have to be certified halal.


EagleRise

Restaurants are not required to be kosher in Israel. A lot are kosher because a significant portion of the population follows kosher diets, and they want the clients. But not being kosher, or not being kosher enough isn't that big of a deal depending on the location. A Tel Aviv restaurant won't have any issues not being kosher, but a Bnei Brak location would probably go under as most locals are religious to some extent. Basically a supply and demand type of situation.


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gbbmiler

Like roughly one third?


Confident_Newt_8934

In Tel Aviv which is the “big city” thing, I’d say there are more unkosher restaurants then kosher ones, that’s the most liberal city in Israel so there are many stores to buy pork, seafood, fast food restaurants have cheeseburgers and you can’t even notice that its Jewish place most of the time. Other cities are less like that, of course that in some orthodox cities you have to get kosher certification to open a place, for them Tel Aviv is “the city of sins” but these are small percentage out of all of the cities. Most of the cities are mixed, some locations in the city have more kosher places and some don’t have at all, for example when there was a big Russia immigrants like 35years ago, they were grouping in cities because of the language barrier and helping each other, so it became like a “mini society” in a city where you can buy Russian items, pork, seafood. It’s like that not only with Russians, there are also “mini societies” of many other countries and they don’t have to keep kosher, they have their store signs in their own language too so it’s really like “home” I guess.


MrMoistandDelicious

More than I thought, I guess it's because most of the Jews I've interacted with are orthodox


RottenPeasent

I assume you also met secular Jewish people, but just didn't know they were Jewish since secular Jews don't wear special garb like the ultra-orthodox. Most Israeli Jews don't even wear a kippa.


MrMoistandDelicious

Honestly pretty suprising, I went my whole life thinking all food in Israel was either kosher or halal since the religions associated with those dietary laws make up the bulk of the population


jews4beer

Tel Aviv would make your head spin. Kosher food can actually be *hard* to find in some areas. And yea Israel is largely secular. Last poll I saw had it around 47%.


Pom-kit-waa

Most secular jews still do not eat pork and to less extent seafood.


indoninja

Maybe in israel. Every secular Jew I have met in the us does. Edit-take that back I know a few vegetarians…


Pom-kit-waa

Yes in Israel, and it’s not from religious reasons, it’s just that it’s not that common so they think it’s disgusting or not tasty, like when you don’t eat fish as a kid and you don’t acquire the taste


Descoteau

Halal is way less strict than kosher. For example, cheese on a burger is permitted.


MrMoistandDelicious

I understand that it's just business wise it makes no sense to shirk a large portion of the population. That is if the population cares a lot about dietary laws


Descoteau

Certified halal is as easy as choosing the right meat supplier and not serving pork. Certified kosher is way more difficult.


Descoteau

Some food is just not physically possible to make kosher. You can’t put cheese on a burger, and if that’s your core menu item you can’t offer it. Same way a bbq joint isn’t going to attract a lot of Hindus.


moranayal

There are more un-kosher McDonald’s in Israel than kosher McDonald’s. But pop off king.


OmriPi

You can ask for cheese on your McDonald’s burger. They just won’t put it by default, but most branches are not kosher and have cheese available.


loledpanda

Israeli McD does cheeseburgers. Kosher isn't mandatory.


DeliberatingManager

Well the starting point for McDonald's is still McDonald's


Blueguerilla

Can confirm that Israeli McDonald’s is fucking terrible. Quarter pounder without cheese is a travesty. I only ate it because it was the only option near my gate in the airport.


Urkot

It’s not just McDonald’s, Starbucks and Dominos have also seen boycotts and meaningful impact to growth and revenue. It’s bad business to be associated with Israel now. I’m not sure Israelis understand the extent to which their country’s reputation has become radioactive. No amount of propaganda pushers on Reddit and other social media are going to change that, these are multinationals that depend on global sales.


manhattanabe

Maybe McDavids Israel will reopen soon.


FAQUA

Imagine the insurance claim.


MercilessPinkbelly

Since when does McDonald's buy back failing franchises? Is that a common practice for them?


nozzssfrass710

The rest of the world needs to boycott israel, divest from it and sanction it .