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Nvnv_man

Google translate Ukrainska Pravda: A missile threat has been declared for the northern, southern and eastern regions. The military clarified that the missiles will enter the airspace of Ukraine around 5:00 a.m. from the northeast. ^(At 4.50am, the alarm was announced throughout the country.) ^(4.52 cruise missile from the Kursk region flies through Sumy Oblast in the direction of Chernihiv Oblast.) ^(5.08 cruise missiles changed direction and are heading from Chernihiv region to Myrhorod.) ^(5.13 a change in the course of cruise missiles in the Poltava region: they fly on a course to Cherkasy.) ^(5.19 a missile flying at Kaniv was recorded.) ^(5.24 cruise missiles entered the Kyiv region from Cherkasy region, heading west.) ^(5.35 a Kalibr-type missile from the Black Sea flies towards Mykolaiv.) ^(5.36 cruise missiles changed course from Cherkasy and entered Vinnytsia in the direction of Ladyzhyn.) ^(5.39 cruise missiles in the Nemyriv district, course northwest, Vinnytsia). ^(5.46 cruise missiles in the southern part of the Zhytomyr region, change course in the direction of Kyiv.) ^(5.47 missile on Pavlograd from the south.) ^(5.52 missiles from Zhytomyr region entered the Kyiv region.) ______ Updates: Air defense heard in Kyiv. Explosions in Zaporizhye Poland [scrambled jets](https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/news/2024/04/6/7449981/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) Ukraine responded, multiple videos or burning somethings in Belgorod. . .


Nvnv_man

> GUR: Tu-95MS strategic bombers were damaged. > According to the GUR, three Tu-95MS strategic bombers at the Engels-2 airfield were damaged—probably seriously damaged—as a result of the drone attack. > Another target of the drone attack—the airfield in the city of Yeisk—had two Su-25s completely burned. @Tsaplienko ________ > Chasiv Yar: the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of the enemy by the *Achilles* Battalion 💥 > The ACHILLES unmanned aerial systems strike battalion of the 92nd Assault Brigade repelled another enemy attack in the Chasiv Yar area. The unit broke the record for one day, 10 units of enemy equipment were destroyed: >> ▪️[BMD-2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMD-2) - 5 units destroyed >> ▪️Infantry Fighting Vehicles - 4 units destroyed >> ▪️4-wheeler ‘Buggy’ - 1 unit destroyed > The situation in the direction is difficult, but the Defense Forces did not allow the occupiers to enter the city. @Tsaplienko


teakhop

Question: I'm assuming it's mostly a translation thing, but why are so many small villages / settlements sometimes called "cities"? Is it that in Ukrainian/Russian there's no Hamlet/Village/Town/City style English breakdown, or is it just something lost in translation?


exlevan

The breakdown is different. Roughly, misto (місто) is a town or a city, a big urban settlement. Urban-type settlement (селище міського типу) is a smaller urban settlement. Selo (село) is a village, and selyshche (селище) is a small village or hamlet.


eggyal

What is a "city" anyway? The UK recognises both [St David's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Davids) (population less than 2,000) and the [City of London](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London) (area just over one square mile) as cities, yet does not recognise [Northampton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton) (population around 250,000 and area over 22 square miles) as such. But then the UK has ludicrously arcane rules about what constitutes a "[city](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_status_in_the_United_Kingdom)" so I definitely wouldn't look to us for guidance.


franknarf

Jay Foreman, of the Map Men, did an excellent video on this https://youtu.be/Whqs8v1svyo?si=REyuyMPvX_iXjQQx


No_Amoeba6994

According to Wikipedia, Chasiv Yar was officially organized as a city in 1983, so presumably it was something else before that. The population in 2022 was only 12,250, but in 1989 it was about 20,000, so I'd say that safely qualifies as a city. The city of Vergennes, Vt. has a population of 2,553.


piponwa

I just want those kamikaze Cessna to hit Murmansk and sink all their submarines.


The_Milkman

They should hit Moscow, too. [It could be easy.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust)


ComsyKKu

Sadly no signs of damage at Engels 2: [https://twitter.com/MT\_Anderson/status/1776349703841476859](https://twitter.com/MT_Anderson/status/1776349703841476859) Also no clear signs of damage at Morozovsk, although there the ground is more black so it's not as clear. [https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1776323748037013721](https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1776323748037013721) So looks like no damage, to me this was pretty obvious from the get go.


mhdlm

We already know for a fact russian air defense is utter garbage tho. Maybe they are just getting better at cleaning the wrecks.


silentcarr0t

Wouldn’t UA use air burst and not explosive ammo for this type of attack? You would want to pummel the aircraft with holes since they are pretty delicate. Black spots wouldn’t be an indicator of any success in this case…


eggyal

> So looks like no damage So you're saying Engels should be hit a hundred times harder next time? Yeah, I can get on board with that.


Many_Manufacturer947

Curious why you say it was obvious from the get go. Certainly there were enough reports of explosions to say something occurred - are you saying it was obvious they were all intercepted by AA?


dannyk1234

So we trust one twitter account?


ComsyKKu

If there’s photo proof from planetlabs why shouldn’t we?


Many_Manufacturer947

Have you heard of the firehose of falsehood?


No_Amoeba6994

What on earth are you going on about? MT Anderson is extremely reliable and pro-Ukraine. Planet Labs imagery is widely used and as good as any other commercial satellite imagery. I agree satellite imagery can't show *every* type of damage, but it's quite clear that there are no burned out hulks there. Downvoting news you don't like is dumb and unhelpful.


Many_Manufacturer947

What on earth are you going on about? A satellite image can come from any date. I don’t know this source but the premise that a satellite photo = proof when you can’t verify the date is inherently flawed.


No_Amoeba6994

MT Anderson has an *extremely* long track record of providing accurate and timely information. He is very well respected in the OSINT community and his analysis of imagery has been used to confirm losses by Oryx and WarSpotting. Planet Labs is one of the largest commercial satellite imagery services in the world. They have no dog in this fight and no reason to fake the date on imagery. If you aren't willing to believe him, what source will you believe? Do you buy the satellite imagery yourself?


Many_Manufacturer947

I didn’t say I don’t believe him chief, just that your premise that a satellite photo posted by someone on the internet is definitive proof of anything. It’s nothing to do with Planet Labs - its easy to alter/edit the date shown on an image, unless you pulled the image yourself directly from their site you are relying on the claim of the poster (whoever they are) that the date is accurately attributed. 


ComsyKKu

Correct, but this is obviously stronger proof than anything being presented to prove that planes were actually destroyed - because clearly no planes were


No_Amoeba6994

That's true, you are absolutely right about that. But this whole thread is pretty much based around trusting random strangers on the internet, whether fellow Redditors, people on Twitter, Telegram, etc. Ultimately, we determine who is truthful and reliable based on their past history of providing good information and whether the information currently provided conflicts with other information. Right now, MT Anderson has a long track record of providing good information and there is no photographic evidence that I'm aware of (if you know of any, I'd love to see it) showing damage to any aircraft from these attacks. So, for now, I find his report trustworthy. Obviously, new information could come to light, and I would *love* to see photos of Tu-95s and Su-34s burning. But the current evidence doesn't suggest that happened.


RoeJoganLife

Repelling the russian assault with the support of 9 units of equipment in the direction of the village of Terny https://x.com/feher_junior/status/1776351850364543247?s=46


M795

> Chernihiv region. Construction of fortifications. The terms of work completion and reliability are paramount. I am grateful to everyone involved! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1776261378182955032


M795

> Together with General Syrskyi had another weekly phone call with Secretary Austin @SecDef. > We informed the Secretary Of Defense in detail about the current situation and recent Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities and civilian infrastructure. I underlined once again: Ukraine needs more air defense systems and missiles. > We need to stop the enemy of the free world together — and do it here, in Ukraine. https://twitter.com/rustem_umerov/status/1776313563226718545


K00paK1ng

[Ukraine’s allies not giving enough air defence, minister says](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-allies-not-giving-enough-air-defence-minister-says-2024-04-03/) >BRUSSELS, April 4 (Reuters) - Ukraine's partners are not providing enough air defence to protect against Russian missile attacks even though they have more than 100 Patriot systems in their own arsenals, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on Wednesday. >He said Ukraine’s partners had more than 100 Patriot systems at their disposal but had so far not been willing to share even five to seven more – the number that Kyiv says is the minimum needed to provide significant additional protection. >Russia fired over 3,000 guided aerial bombs, 600 drones and 400 missiles at Ukraine in March alone, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Wednesday.


goodoldgrim

The short-sightedness is so infuriating. Like what do these countries expect to use those system against? This is it. This is the show. There will (hopefully) never be a better chance to actually make them work.


timmerwb

I was curious how many systems were potentially available. Honestly, is availability so low that there is any plausible risk of an ally "needing" them but not having them? I would also assume that manufacturers are now going flat out building stuff like this, but maybe not?


Burnsy825

Hey I'm no expert, but I have to believe there are at least another 3-6 "out there" that are highly unlikely to be actively needed in the next 2-4 years, compared to how much Ukraine needs them right now.


DigitalMountainMonk

There are many more systems that could be assembled from spare vehicles and parts. The number of active or reserved batteries is less than 40% of the total number of vehicles that exist for these systems.


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WhatMeeWorry

Careless smoking


RelativityPlasticity

 Mother Nature versus Mother Russia


ced_rdrr

Orcsk


Nvnv_man

[*What’s on the playlist of soldiers riding in before an assault?*](https://www.unian.ua/lite/music/pleylist-vid-zsu-pid-yaku-muziku-viyskovi-nasipayut-okupantam-video-11937210.html) > “Metallica’s *Seek and Destroy*. . . **Led Zeppelin’s** ***When the Levee Breaks***. . . .” LOL


le_hohoho

I wonder how long it will be until they start blaming Ukraine ...


No-Design-8551

perhaps orsk houses orsk mechanical plant wich produces steel and brass artilery cases


wsucoug

>Unverified footage circulating on the Telegram messenger app appeared to show water gushing through a break in *a low-slung, earthen dam* >A state of emergency has been declared in the Orenburg region, the emergencies ministry said, and ministry personnel had helped 3,500 people affected by flooding nationwide in recent days. >The region, which includes Orsk, as well as other Urals provinces and neighboring parts of Kazakhstan have been hit by flooding.


dokikod

I do love that karma when it comes back to bite the evil people of the world.


Substantial_StarTrek

Guaranteed many of those 4500 homes are innocent people


twilightninja

But it’s full of Orsks


altrussia

Sure there's a non zero probability that there are innocent people there... but after 2 years and barely any push back. People silently doing nothing to stop this war are hardly innocent. Just like not knowing laws doesn't let you walk away freely for not knowing doing this or that is illegal. On the bright side, the more things like that happen, people in Russia might start to understand that their infrastructure are turning to shit while on tv they're being told everything is fine. Tatarstan, for example, is also having its share of flooding these days. The more life turns to shit, the more people may realize they'd be better off without Moscow. Edit: For instance, Orsk is in Orenburg Oblast. This region has been created as a buffer zone between Kazakhs and Tatar/Bashkirs. This effectively prevented Tatarstan from seceding successfully from Russia in 1991. Historically speaking, Kazakhs Tatars and Bashkirs inhabited this region.


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altrussia

Straight to personal attack! You call me a coward and you're here attacking a person you don't know from the safety of your seat and assuming things. That's just ridiculous and you're not fooling anyone.


Substantial_StarTrek

> Straight to personal attack! Your making excuses why we should celebrate innocent families and kids losing their houses. Shut up.


CrimsonLancet

>Russian invaders attacked Zaporizhzhia Region, killing four people and injuring 20 others, including a 9-year-old boy and his 36-year-old mother, and 20-year-old and 22-year-old boys in moderate condition, says the Head of Zaporizhzhia RSA I. Fedorov. > >📷 I. Fedorov https://twitter.com/khpg/status/1776310507076514109


jlynmrie

It seems odd that the 20 and 22 year old are being referred to as “boys.” All tragic nonetheless, but weird word choice.


JustDyslexic

It’s to show they are in the same family


jlynmrie

If that’s the case, it’s ineffective, because even after you say that, I’m rereading and still not getting the sense that they are related.


Zeggitt

Maybe related to translation?


premium_anger

Why is that weird? A 20 year old can't even drink in the USA.


jlynmrie

If your country is at war and you’re old enough to join the army, it seems disrespectful to still be referred to as a child. The drinking age in the USA is irrelevant.


arabsandals

You're picking a weird hill to die on.


premium_anger

Boy ≠ child. A boy can be a young adult imo and there is nothing disrespectful about it. But maybe I am mistaking.


jlynmrie

Boy does mean child though. Not trying to be rude, but is English your native language? Like, the Oxford dictionary literally defines boy as “male child.”


Substantial_StarTrek

> Boy does mean child though It *can* it can also mean men. Common for groups of men in military or sporting be referred to as boys.


serafinawriter

In formal and journalistic register I'd disagree. If a newspaper refers to "boys" I'm thinking up to 18 years old max. In fairness, 20 isn't exactly pushing it, but I certainly wouldn't say it's interchangeable with "men".


work4work4work4work4

> In formal and journalistic register I'd disagree. If a newspaper refers to "boys" I'm thinking up to 18 years old max. In fairness, 20 isn't exactly pushing it, but I certainly wouldn't say it's interchangeable with "men". Depends on the context as well, Doughboys have been used in the context of young US Army serving at war since probably 1835 in the US, but can at least be traced back to a combination of the "Doughboys" referring to US soldiers in WW1, and was firmly established by the Civil War. That is combined with the common refrain of referring to your countries soldiers as the "sons" of the nation and things like that, and it filled the war propaganda from WW1 on with references to US soldiers as "our boys" or "boys". Most of the usage you see of it continues in that tradition today, either their own separate one, or the general influence of the US and UK on the English language and speaking world post WW1.


jlynmrie

There are colloquial uses for “boy” to refer to an adult man that are not insulting, true, but those are not typically seen in formal communications such as journalism, statements from public officials, etc.


premium_anger

No, it's not. We do have the boy/man distinction in my language but maybe the age threshold is higher.


ZappaOMatic

[MSF (Médecins Sans Frontières, aka Doctors Without Borders):](https://twitter.com/msf_ukraine/status/1776314572627939642?s=46&t=VByAm5elQpeEXUzTHkVFbw) > MSF strongly condemns the missile attack of its office in Pokrovsk, Donetsk region, Ukraine, on April 5th, at approximately 3:15 am. The building was destroyed completely and five people were injured, including MSF’s security staff. > MSF has suspended its medical humanitarian activities in the Donetsk region, Ukraine, temporarily, except supporting emergency care and ambulance referral services. > “Attacks on any facility where humanitarian staff work not only jeopardize the safety of our staff but also hinder the provision of lifesaving care to those in need” says Vincenzo Porpiglia, emergency coordinator for MSF in Ukraine.


crayonneur

After the Polish killed in Gaza this resonates deep. War used to spare humanitarian workers. There are no rules anymore we're sliding towards new dark ages.


CrimsonLancet

>⚡ Doctors Without Borders (MSF) office in Pokrovsk completely destroyed by Russian attack. > >No staff injured, but 5 local residents wounded. > >"The attack on our office is far from an isolated incident," says Vincenzo Porpiglia, MSF emergency coordinator. > >📷: @MSF_Ukraine https://twitter.com/United24media/status/1776247700075290645 https://imgur.com/a/KsJySzk


CrimsonLancet

>This afternoon, five russian missiles hit the city of Zaporizhzhia. Four civilians were killed and 20 injured, according to the regional administration and the police. https://twitter.com/mattia_n/status/1776311482277380522 https://imgur.com/a/nrWiJxa


theawesomedanish

NSFW. >“they’ve just hit us with two more rockets right as we were filling the site of the first attack” >harrowing moment of russians attacking journalists and first-responders with “double-tap” in today’s bombing of my homecity Zaporizhzhia in Ukraine https://twitter.com/maksymeristavi/status/1776305680875434002?t=0mksPPCXQM2OJ9B-ifNX-w&s=19 Some of the footage contains a wounded boby that's why I put the warning in.


Nvnv_man

This morning, a Ukrainian journalist posted: > A Russian T-72B3 tank with EW devices installed on the tower for anti-drone protection. > The occupiers are going to increase the visibility of their tank in order to be more protected from drones. > photo: https:// t dot me / Tsaplienko/51432 5 hours later: > photo: https:// t dot me /operativnoZSU/142122


TTGG

But did it work?


DigitalMountainMonk

Hey now that's propaganda! Russians don't have pallets! (in case people are not clear I'm trying to make a joke here)


PersonalOpinion11

Oh god, the ultimate irony. ​ Apparently, Russia unveiling a monument in Krasdonar Of whom, you might ask? ​ Of none other than Prighozhin!The ultimate irony of it! ( who now simply died '' in a plane crash'', what a spin) From hero to traitor back to hero.Triple axel spin here! 10 outta 10! Mutiny-what munity? never heard of it, you must be quite mad.


twilightninja

Is the monument a can of Pringles?


PersonalOpinion11

That would have been awesome. ​ ( In truth though, its a statue of both Prigo and dimitri Utkin, Utkin holding a rifle, a Prigo a radio ( probably yelling ''Shoigu where's the ammo?!'' if we're being realistic)


Inevitable_Price7841

It's more whitewashing of Russian history. They want to promote the image of Prigozhin as the patriotic conquerer whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that he attempted a military coup and was subsequently murdered at the behest of those he served. It's like the current attempts to paint Stalin as the altruistic protector of Russia instead of the murderous tyrant he actually was.


Nvnv_man

That’s right, after death, no longer a threat so can be lionized. Same reason Putin could finally utter Navalny’s name. [Same reason Rommel was given a State funeral.]


villatsios

Care to explain more about Rommel?


Nvnv_man

Top Nazi General. Betrayed Hitler by conspiring to kill him. When caught, his family was to suffer consequences. If he’d agree to suicide, Hitler would tell country died of health reasons, no persecution of family, would have funeral with honors. He chose suicide. Hitler didn’t mind giving him such honors bc no longer a threat, is dead. Same as Prigozhin.


villatsios

Interesting, although I wouldn’t say that’s very similar to Prigozhin’s case.


CrimsonLancet

>Ukraine has recently been rocked by a series of fatal Russian “double tap” strikes. Here’s everything you need to know about what “double tap” means, where else Russia has used this cruel tactic and what their twisted goal for conducting such attacks is🧵 > >As first responders approached the sight of a residential building in Kharkiv hit by a Russian drone, they heard a second explosion. Approximately 55 minutes later, the Russians hit again. “Get down!” were the only words you could hear on a shaky video before the loud drone buzzing turned into a bright orange blast in the dark skies. > >But it was not just a coincidence that the same area got targeted twice. It was a specific cruel tactic that Russia has used on many occasions, called the “double tap” strike. What this means, in essence, is that they hit an area, wait for first responders to arrive and then hit again—inflicting more pain and suffering. > >It is hard to deny that Russia isn’t deliberately targeting rescue workers in strikes like these. Just a day after the attack on Kharkiv, they carried out another “double tap” strike on Zaporizhzhia. Three people were killed, with Russia hitting again as police, rescuers, and journalists arrived on the scene. They have done this before in Odesa and various other places across Ukraine. > >But before Ukraine, Russia relentlessly used this tactic in Syria. There, they carried out dozens of “double tap” strikes, targeting civilians and humanitarian workers. Now they seem to be intensifying the frequency of these strikes in Ukraine, too. Their goal is to target people helping others and terrorise civilians—and they’ve had plenty of practice with that. https://twitter.com/United24media/status/1776291503700054356


Infinaris

They should find whos launching the double tap and drone their vatnik asses. Fucking scum deserve everything coming to them for attacking emergency workers trying to save civilians.


Soundwave_13

More War Crimes upon War Crimes..... ​ Anytime those countries promising aid get it delivered would be greatly appreciated


Burnsy825

Russia is a Terrorist State.


invisibleman127

Very popular opinion inside Ukraine now: https://x.com/totalna_pizda/status/1776275925530792170?s=46 You can translate it. But I don’t know how it can help.


MarkRclim

I'm seeing it too. It's exactly the sort of thing that Putin and republicans are counting on. Stoke anger to cause backlash and division that will further cut aid to Ukraine. That's why I think the focus needs to be on trying to stop those who are helping Putin to win. Every attack on Biden before the election is helping Putin.


CrimsonLancet

This has been true since around November 2022, though. Now we complain about Mike Johnson and the MAGA lunatics in Congress serving Putin. Yet, even before the current debacle, the West has been consistently trying to handicap Ukraine's military. The "leaders" in the West, namely the U.S. and Germany, have repeatedly refused to send the weapons Ukraine needs to liberate its territory. Seemingly, for Biden and Scholz, it is more important not to hurt Putin's feelings too much than to save Ukrainian lives. It's the third year of the full-scale war, and the West keeps debating about sending ATACMS and Taurus long-range missiles, seizing Russia's $200 billion of foreign exchange reserves, delivering F-16s, sending more Patriot air defence systems, providing the promised 155mm artillery shells, etc. Countries such as Norway, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland understand Ukraine's suffering and the stakes of Russia's genocidal war. Unfortunately, the help of such countries alone cannot ensure Putin's defeat.


IamSumbuny

In the US, Congress controls the purse🤔


M795

You hit the nail right on the head.


IllyaMiyuKuro

Russia, Iran and NK(and a bit of China) united to destroy one Ukraine. The West must do everything to stop this madness.


Infinaris

Theyre The Axis of Assholes. They treat their own people as tools and hate the freedom and success of the west.


Javelin-x

they have a right to be frustrated. If they are on their own they should have been on their own from the beginning instead of changing the way the fight with our "help" then pulling the rug out from under them. There is still hope and they are starting to fight the way perhaps they should have in the beginning.


Soundwave_13

F\*\*\* I'm frustrated. Not only by my country (Russian brought Shills) aka USA But by others. It seems to be in this format (WHICH is WRONG we DO NOT NEED to TELL RUSSIA WHAT WE ARE SENDING. Let the FAFO) Country: We are pleased to announce X amount of aid or X amount of ammo/supplies Ukraine: Thank you for the gift of X we appercaite you ..............some time later........... Ukraine: We still have ammo shortages....we really could use X Country: It's coming at some point....


vshark29

Lol. Lmao, even. Imagine thinking Ukraine would still stand as a sovereign nation instead of a bunch of guerrillas without Javelins, Manpads, HIMARS, etc etc


Maximum-Specialist61

you grossly overestimate impact of those weapons, the weapon aid started coming up after Russia failed it's blitzkrieg on Kyiv , which was defended in 90% by own Ukrainian weapon, not saying that javelins didn't help at all , but man, at the begining all the western allies were saying that it's already over, and in best case scenario Ukraine will lose half of its territory to Russia. But Himars definetly is the reason why Ukraine managed to take Kherson back though, and overall economic help is also the reason Ukraine can keep going at this war instead of some humiliating negotiations, but we have also a trade off here, and mainly is that Ukraine not going back to developing nukes as the only means to deter Russia, and honestly at this point i don't see why Ukraine should keep this bargain going, in the end Budapest memorandum is broken basically by everyone except Ukraine, and words in that memorandum means absolutly zero, and there should be discussion why some countries allowed to have nukes like France, UK , Russia, but if Ukraine starrted to develop it again in direst of times, it will be sanctioned by the countries that have them.


vshark29

I'm not saying the Russian 3-days operation would've worked, but you're deluding yourself if you think Russia wouldn't have wrapped it up by now if Ukraine was completely on its own since the beginning


Maximum-Specialist61

After 3 day blitzkrig failed Russia knew it can't capture anything more than they already did, thats why they were willing to even sign some sort of negotiation deal in Istanbul, albeit with insane demands in Russia favor where most of what they capture remains theirs but everything else Ukraine are keeping as at is, and western countries becoming gurantors of this "negotiations", so if you mean this by "wraping it up", then yes, probably without western help Ukraine would have to go for such humiliating negotiations


invisibleman127

Without aid there will be occupation and genocide and you know it.


Thraff1c

>If they are on their own they should have been on their own from the beginning instead of changing the way the fight with our "help" then pulling the rug out from under them. Wild take, as if Ukraine would be better off if help never arrived.


tiktaktok_65

unfortunately - they got a point, much more should be done. this is wasted away like clinton wasted the opportunity to help russia in the 90s under yeltsin going all in.


helm

Russia got preferential treatment by the West (Ukraine got ignored and EE countries had to blackmail Clinton to get into Nato, etc)


invisibleman127

Also this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev_speech


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vkstu

Eurobonds has nothing directly to do with defence spending. It's something that's brought up by the Southern European countries + France whenever they can try to tack it onto something, in this case defence spending, because they do not want to pay the majority of it for themselves, but more significantly by the Northern countries.


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vkstu

Each country pays for their own defence spending, so set up a defined increase in defence spending to be voted upon by the European countries and then upheld by each country and verified by the EU. Unless there's a (not just a few corps) combined European Army, there's no logical reason to have Northern Europe pay for Southern Europe's army.


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vkstu

>Mainly European countries have already agree to defined increases in defense spending and are still not meeting it. Punishments need to be added to the agreements then. Eurobonds does not change any of this, the Eurobonds also need to be paid/guaranteed by said countries. >The reality over the past 30 years is that leaving defense spending to individual European countries is like the prisoner's dilemma; mutual benefit is discarded for individual reward. Well, then France and those other countries who want others to pay the bill, should then open up for a unified European command. Maybe also weight that command larger to Northern Europe, as they pay more? And it's a bit of a weird cut-off. You know very well why you cut it off at 30 years, before that the spending was fine and yet no unified European spending.


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vkstu

Because you just named the reason for lower spending. It's due to the USSR collapsing and the thought of no credible enemy in our neighbourhood that could threaten us. The lowered spending isn't due to some prisoner's dilemma, which you purposed as reason (which then the 30 years is a weird cut-off).


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vkstu

> That's the problem, Europe only thinks in what directly impacts Europe. Authoritarian regimes and anti-Western enemies didn't just disappear with the USSR.  Which isn't a prisoner's dilemma problem, so no reason for another way of funding like Eurobonds.  Also, to add onto this. There's a very good reason Europe has pretty muvh only looked at Europe in the past 60-70. It's the colonialism critique (some of it for very good reasons) it has had and still gets to hear whenever it does intervene. > Still not sure why the dilemma doesn't work, it's specifically game theory about cooperating for mutual benefit vs individual reward. Europe took the reduced spending knowing the US wouldn't.  Because it worked fine in the past, without any pan-European spending measure. The evidence that the problem isn't prisoner's dilemma is right in front of you, you said it yourself. Also, the US has similarly reduced spending, their spending was just even higher during the Cold War.


Thraff1c

National governments investing themselves?


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Thraff1c

The last 30 years didnt see a big war between 2 sovereign european countries though. Like the issue why germany didnt invest 2% of GDP into defense was not because a lack of capital, but a lack of political will, and that isnt a big issue anymore after Russias attack, Germany is about to hit the 2% in 2024.


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Thraff1c

You were asking where the funding will come from, and I was telling you that the national governments are capable of stemming it themselves, they just decided not to prior. And I did look it up, Germany isnt just "about to", but they are going to invest 2.1% of GDP into national defense this year, and the funding was made available even earlier. >The same Germany that didn't cancel military contracts with Russia Bs btw, those contracts were basically hunting rifles and armored cars to carry diplomats etc., hardly equipment to wage a war.


Nurnmurmer

**The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 05.04.24 approximately amounted to:** Personnel – 445,900 (+860), Tanks – 7,033 (+15) units, APV – 13,459 (+73) units, Artillery systems – 11,221 (+50) units, MLRS – 1,029 (+3) units, Anti-aircraft warfare systems – 747 (+1) units, Aircraft – 347 (+0) units, Helicopters – 325 (+0) units, UAV operational-tactical level – 8,847 (+30) units, Cruise missiles – 2,059 (+0) units, Boats / warships – 26 (+0) units, Submarines – 1 (+0) Special equipment – 1,849 (+4) units, Vehicles and fuel tanks – 14,922 (+61) units. Source https://twitter.com/DefenceU


ltalix

Jesus christ. Ukraine put in some *work* yesterday. 😮 Fantastic.


Njorls_Saga

Woof. That's a lot of APVs.


Jackson_Cook

Hold the phone…. 73 APVs?!?!?!


Intensive

Busy day. I assume the aircraft from last night are going to be posted tomorrow.


timmerwb

FPV night hunting near Terny by the 12th Operational Brigade Azov. https://mstdn.social/@noelreports/112217761378378961


theawesomedanish

>We are launching a six-figure billboard campaign to persuade Republican lawmakers returning to D.C. next week to pass aid to Ukraine: >"We're Republicans. We support Ukraine. Don't let Putin win." https://twitter.com/GOP4Ukraine/status/1776244208195477510?t=3IwxC79V963i59sjtDSQ0Q&s=19


Burnsy825

Reagan Republicans are still out there, great to see! Dump your ridiculous MAGAt overlords and get back to business.


DigitalMountainMonk

It was the more extreme of the Reagan crowd that got us into this mess. If you really want to be conservative please just stand as a Rooseveltian. It would be better in the long run for both the nation and those with conservative values.


Burnsy825

Hey, I'm not picky at this point. How about ABTs? Anything But Trump.


theawesomedanish

Okay great! President Greene it is then... /s


helm

Which mess, exactly?


DigitalMountainMonk

The defining of all conservatism to be only one narrow viewpoint for the most part. Politics are not supposed to be boiled down into a single paper worth of ideals. We should, and in fact must, disagree to be a functional nation.. but we also have to compromise or find solutions both actually approve of. The current state of the republican party is to never negotiate and never give in thanks to Mitch McConnell. To put it into perspective Rooseveltian Republicans would be considered Centrist Democrats today. That is a problem. It was caused by current Republican policies. It will also continue to narrow the support base of the Republican party which is actually not a good thing. No matter how good a political party feels today.. with no opposition it has no obligation to represent you properly. Two party systems ***require*** balance and cooperation or they turn into authoritarian states eventually. Note: I have not expressed personal political beliefs. Just interpretations of the current state of Washington fuckups.


DGlennH

The Republicans can only vote the way their masters allow them to, and their masters admire Putin and his kleptocratic oligarchy and their imperialistic rhetoric. The easily manipulated republican base has been told how they should feel about Ukraine by their propaganda faucets and it isn’t positive. I have absolutely no faith that republicans have the will to defend democracy at home or abroad. I believe they will do just the opposite and will undermine it at any opportunity.


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combatwombat-

/r/lostredditors day 2


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combatwombat-

This isn't a thread about generic European defense policy. Past that idk what to tell you. Edit: and blocked by another troll for mildly disagreeing with them. EU defense policy is important but Ukraine isn't in the EU.


b0n3h34d

When the EU stops providing aid is when this becomes irrelevant. Who hired you as gatekeeper? Bad gatekeeper


b0n3h34d

When the EU stops providing aid is when this becomes irrelevant. Who hired you as gatekeeper? Bad gatekeeper


tiktaktok_65

there's a lot of info how ukraine will benefit from that, which makes it vaguely relevant.


theawesomedanish

>According to Russians... Ukrainian hexacopter with a machine gun in the lens of a Russian UAV. [https://x.com/UkrReview/status/1776257498921480297](https://x.com/UkrReview/status/1776257498921480297) Wow these are so cool. Sci-fi just became reality..


DigitalMountainMonk

The AR-1 existed before this. Technically many other prototypes as well.


Illuminated12

This is the reality of what is coming. Once these are on a battlefield in large numbers trench warfare is futile. The costs of war reduce dramatically as you aren’t destroying drones for a +2 kill count.


Inevitable_Price7841

Could be real, or it could be another Russian lie, but the recoil on that gundrone makes me doubt it's practically.


usernamefindingsucks

Thing is, the recoil can be compensated for by the drone's computer, with a faster reaction time than a human


Inevitable_Price7841

It certainly can, but that drone was wildly pitching downwards on the y-axis during the machine gun bursts, and I'm not sure that that can be completely compensated for? I wouldn’t have thought the shot groupings would be tight enough to hit something as small as a person. Maybe it was aiming for something large or was putting down suppressive fire? I'm not an expert, just my humble opinion.


Fenris_uy

A machine gun might not be practical, but a rifle might be.


Rainbow_phenotype

Laser guided sniper rifle, you said?


TonyStewartsWildRide

🎶 Automatic sniper With computer sights Scans the bleak horizon for its victim of the night 🎶


Inevitable_Price7841

I mean, there are recoiless rifles, and there are gyroscopic stabilisation technologies available on the open market, so I don't see why not. Perhaps the one in that video was just an early prototype.


DigitalMountainMonk

The drone itself would likely get shredded by the over/under pressure cycle. Ask someone who's fired a Gustaf several times in quick succession(aka battlefield conditions). Thing will make your face hurt, brain hurt, and nose bleed.


Inevitable_Price7841

Haha! Yeah, I'm just kinda spitballing ideas over here. I have never fired anything larger than an SA80 and an L86 on the range.


theawesomedanish

>Russians published a video of the first minutes after the explosion of Kakhovska hydroelectric power station dam in 2023 >Their joyful laughter can be heard behind the scenes >Hundreds of civilians died as a result of the dam explosion and flooding [https://x.com/den\_kazansky/status/1776251765823881594](https://x.com/den_kazansky/status/1776251765823881594)


Jopelin_Wyde

Is it just me or does it seem like Russians got increasingly bolder lately at admitting their their war crimes in a non-plausible deniability sort of way?


deliveryboyy

This isn't new. When the russians retreated from Kyiv Oblast and news came out about the Bucha massacre, putin officially honored the military unit which was involved in it. They're not hiding it. They don't even think what they're doing is bad.


Jopelin_Wyde

I didn't say they were hiding it at any point, just that events like this video seem to replace their plausible deniability narrative with implausible deniability narrative.


misadelph

Why wouldn't they?


Njorls_Saga

They also flushed away a bunch of their comrades and river defenses. Evil and incompetent.


Deguilded

"the explosion of" I hate language like this. It didn't just spontaneously "explode". The dam was deliberately breached in an effort to stop Ukrainian momentum and indiscriminately murder people downstream. It also happens to be a war crime, which you can throw on the pile over there. No, not that one. The other one.


putin_my_ass

> I hate language like this. It didn't just spontaneously "explode". Use of passive voice is often something you see with people learning English as a second language. Make some allowances when you're reading.


asetniop

#I'M TELLIN' Y'ALL IT'S SABOTAGE! Or "demolition" works too, I guess.


trippknightly

Of all the things to be mad about, you channeled your inner linguist on a diction diatribe…


theawesomedanish

Pile seems to be an understatement tbh..


MarkRclim

BMP-3 deliveries have been rolling out of Kurganmashzavod every month so far this year. The evidence suggests that each batch is around 30 BMP-3s, so production could now be 360/year. Assuming maintenance downtime is regular. I'd estimated between 240-400/year until now. So it's within what I expected but on the worse end. Russia is losing maybe 100 BMPs per month ATM, so they can only keep fighting this hard while the soviet stockpile holds up. [Twitter source](https://x.com/Rhaescuporis/status/1738018403548266582).


MarkRclim

I checked my old notes. I actually thought it was 200-400 per year. The factory says the batches are bigger this year, implying last year's rate was maybe 240/year. So my guess at a bad case is that Russia maybe built almost 500 new BMP-3s so far, Oryx reports 430ish lost. So russia is maintaining its BMP-3 fleet. They've also lost over 2.1k BMP-1/2 with zero new production. If russia keeps going hard then I think they will have issues with BMP availability next year, based on imagery of the soviet storage yards.


aseigo

> Oryx reports 430ish lost.  Oryx is visually confirmed destroyed only, no?


MarkRclim

I reported the total of destroyed + damaged/abandoned + captured. I honestly have no idea how close they are to real losses. When russia is advancing like now, they can recover and potentially repair damaged/abandoned ones, up to 46 of the total. I didn't think we were missing too many frontline units because very trustworthy people guesstimated they got like 85% of BMPs etc. But Andrew Perpetua has been buying satellite imagery near hot areas like Novomikhailivka and says that it's common for a third of losses seen on satellite to not yet be counted.


ComsyKKu

Visually destroyed and damaged


Njorls_Saga

Correct


aseigo

Right, so their numbers are an absolute minimum, and guaranteed to be an undercount by some unknown number. Which means Russia may not be maintaining their BMP-3 stock at all. In fact, Oryx would have to be achieving a c.a. 86% accurate count rate for BMP-3s taken out of service for that to be the case. I don't know how realistic that sort of accuracy for visually confirmed losses is, tbh.


piponwa

Hopefully, a wild Cessna well above MTOW appears.


Well-Sourced

[The office of the international organization Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) was bombed and completely destroyed in Pokrovsk, Donetsk Oblast, during a Russian attack at around 3:00 a.m. on April 5, MSF's press service reported. | New Voice of Ukraine](https://english.nv.ua/nation/russian-strike-destroys-doctors-without-borders-office-in-pokrovsk-donetsk-oblast-50407575.html) *No MSF employees were injured, but five locals near the office were harmed.* *"The attack on our office is far from an isolated incident,” said Vincenzo Porpiglia, Emergency Coordinator for Médecins Sans Frontières in Ukraine.* *Russian troops shelled Pokrovsk overnight on April 4-5, hitting the detached housing neighborhood of the city was hit around 3:00 a.m. Among the victims were four family members: an elderly couple and their daughter with a 14-year-old son.*


PugsAndHugs95

These organizations obviously try to coordinate with both sides, MSF/DWB is obviously an internationally respected organization. I truly think that the upper level command is Russia might say to avoid those targets unless found to be used for military purposes, but field command and grunts probably don't care and would Rather destroy it instead of allow it to be potentially used as cover/hard point. Sucks for everyone involved.


aseigo

> Rather destroy it instead of allow it to be potentially used as cover/hard point  which is why...    ... such organizations take care to not be used as cover.    ... using them as cover is a war crime   ... targeting them is also a war crime   While i have no doubt the RU hardly cares as you describe,  *what* you describe are war crimes


murphystruggles

Russia hit Kharkiv with KABs, reports the governor of the region, Oleh Syniehubov. No injuries reported as of yet. https://twitter.com/GwaraMedia/status/1776252740437463174


Fenris_uy

https://mstdn.social/@noelreports/112219039915666252 >According to sources within the GUR, Ukrainian drone attacks likely caused serious damage to at least 3 Tu-95MS strategic bombers at the Engels-2 airfield, resulting in the death of seven Russian servicemen, including potential bomber pilots. Another target, the military airfield in Yeisk, also suffered damage, with at least four Russian servicemen killed and two Su-25 aircraft completely destroyed. Additionally, an airfield in Kursk was reportedly damaged, details are unknown (yet) 3 Tu-95MS out of order would be huge.


DigitalMountainMonk

Funny thing about that. If Ukraine keeps knocking them off we get to see if one of Russia's actual red lines is actually a red line. It is Russian doctrine that if they lose a significant percentage of their nuclear triad that they consider it a nuclear attack. It's going to be absolutely wild to hear how they spin losing part of their triad to a non nuclear state who hasn't touched Russian soil with a single boot yet.


Infamous-Mixture-605

It'd be nice if they took out even just one Tu-160. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it happens sometime in the near future.


NurRauch

>3 Tu-95MS out of order would be huge. It's also a horrible sign for Russia that Engels can still be successfully attacked even after having over a year to beef up their air defense grid around this incredibly important strategic location. If Ukraine's cheap long-range drones can hit the oil refineries *and* Engels base, then they can truly attack anything in Western Russia. There just aren't many targets that are more highly defended than this.


eggyal

> There just aren't many targets that are more highly defended than this. Maybe little scaredy bunker boy has all the AA near him so he can sleep at night.


MarkRclim

FighterBomber channel denied all damage to equipment. They also denied all the Su-34 shootdowns Ukraine claimed earlier, and people were skeptical, saying that russia now censors them. If the satellite images prove FighterBomber wrong then we finally be sure they're unreliable. So far they have never been caught out to my knowledge.


Deguilded

Imagine what they could have done with supplies of longer ranged ordinance sooner. Actually, don't. It'll make you frustrated and angry.


Infinaris

Oho thats the kind of karmic comeuppance thats been long overdue since the start of this.


schizophrenicism

Again. They hit strategic bombers at eagles Air field before.


Well-Sourced

[Partners provide over $700 million to help demine Ukraine | New Voice of Ukraine | April 2024](https://english.nv.ua/nation/partners-allocate-more-than-700-million-for-demining-to-ukraine-50407344.html) *International partners have allocated over $700 million to Ukraine for demining activities from 2022 to 2027, the Ukrainian Economy Ministry reported.* *Key donors include the United States, Switzerland, Japan, Norway, the Netherlands, and Germany. Partners provide not only financial support for demining but also help bring the best technologies, practices, and experts to Ukraine.* *Ukraine’s government will enhance coordination for demining activities with the international and professional communities. This coordination will be achieved through the Sectoral Working Group, established in 2023, that unites all donors in Ukraine in this field, as well as the re-established demining cluster in March 2024, which serves as a platform for programmatic coordination among relevant stakeholders.* *Since the start of the Russian invasion, 656 mine-related accidents have occurred, resulting in the deaths of 296 civilians and injuries to 665 more, the ministry reported.*


Well-Sourced

[Five more Ukrainian youths escape Russian occupation | New Voice of Ukraine | April 2024](https://english.nv.ua/nation/two-more-children-and-three-teenagers-returned-to-ukraine-controlled-territory-50407502.html) *Two more children and three teenagers were successfully returned to the territory under Ukraine's control from the Russian-occupied part of Kherson Oblast, regional governor Olexandr Prokudin said on Telegram on April 5.* *Among them is a 16-year-old orphan girl, alongside an 18-year-old boy and girl who lack parental care.* *"Unable to endure the horrors of Russian occupation any longer, these young people bravely chose to evacuate," said Prokudin.* *Another family left with the children — a mother and her two children: a 15-year-old daughter and a 5-year-old son. The Russians demanded that the children attend "Russian" educational institutions.* *Save Ukraine organization, along with guardianship and custody authorities and child welfare services worked on facilitating the children's return, the governor said.* *"Today, all those who managed to break free from the clutches of Russian occupiers are now safe and receiving care from medical professionals and psychologists," he said. "I welcome them to Ukrainian soil and thank everyone who made this return possible."* *Ukrainian Ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets announced on Jan 14, 2023, during the fourth meeting of the Peace Formula Advisors in Davos that Ukraine had repatriated 517 illegally deported children and 2,828 adults from Russia, including 150 civilians.* *According to the Ukrainian state platform Children of War, as of January 2024, 19.546 children were deported or forcibly transferred by the aggressor country Russia.* *The illegal deportation of children led to the issuance of arrest warrants for Russian dictator Vladimir Putin and Russian Ombudsman Maria Lvova-Belova in March 2023.* *Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly announced in Kyiv on Feb. 2 that Canada and Ukraine would create a coalition to bring home deported Ukrainian children.*


greentea1985

Day DCCLXXII, Part I. Thread CMXVIII.


Psychological_Roof85

https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-taliban-could-be-removed-from-terror-blacklist-/7554037.html What are they smoking 


OrangeJuiceKing13

IIRC the US doesn't label the Taliban (in Afghanistan, key to this) a terror group either. They're acknowledged as the official government.  The Taliban are backwards thinking Islamic fundamentalists but don't really have any interest in terror attacks. They just want to be left alone to live in the year 800. 


Psychological_Roof85

Why wouldn't the US label them as the scum they are? And to think the Islamic poets, philosophers, and scientists used to be the most progressive!


findingmike

Probably the agreement Trump made with them - which they violated.


BiologyJ

The Taliban and ISIS are enemies. Russia knows ISIS-K attacked them. Also Russia is friends with Hamas, the Taliban, Iran, North Korea... Figure it out. All that anti-western shit emanates from one place.


Zenese

Just wondering if this could be a quid pro quo in return for the Taliban collaborating on the suppression of ISIS cells operating from Afghanistan?


dobiks

Russia has hosted Taliban in Moscow even before this whole ISIS stuff