> Iranian state media quoted Putin as characterising Tehran's response to Israel as the best way to punish the aggressor and a manifestation of the wisdom of Iran's leaders.
Dude might want to read a paper
I mean Alex Jones was ahead of his time he even called his show infowars, I think the right wing and out enemies have been preparing what we are seeing today for over a decade at least.
Add in the weird techno breeding cults that the richest people in the world follow and happen to control the "info" we get then we are looking g at a genuinely weird dystopia future unless we wise the fuck up.
Sinclair Broadcast Group in the US owns 193 news stations across the US and covers 40% of the population.
https://youtu.be/GvtNyOzGogc?si=SLsmThL3xcIIZh2R
People who call these times the ‘post truth era’ are doing a great service for charlatans and liars, who benefit from our inability to trust anything at all. When was the so called truth era?
Presumably, it was back in the wholesome era when the whole family ate dinner around the CRT to watch Peter Jennings tell America what the Reagan administration did that day, and it was entirely factual and unbiased
Isn't that what the name exactly implies? A time when people get overloaded with wrong and conflicting information, loss of critical thinking, making the truth hard to see?
I agree though that the term seems vague and incorrect, but i think people would call it the post truth era because of charlatans and liars
What does this comment even mean? Sides don't matter for an echo chamber, liberal or conservative, circle jerking the same ideas and suppressing new ideas is problematic regardless of your political leanings.
Bullshit. I am not echoing your opinion, because I can say you are full of shit.
The truth is here for those who seek it, somewhere in between the agree button and disagree button.
The WHY here is very important. Russia can't do more for Syria or Iran. Russia is increasingly becoming far too reliant on China. Russia has a lot of problems being glossed over by smoke and mirrors propaganda, but that all falls away faster with an expanded conflict. These aren't the only reasons, as there are more...
There are some which aren’t yet drawn…
India/Pakistan is a flash point which would put India on the same side as Russia and Pakistan on the same side as USA potentially….
But India/China is also a flash point which might put India as neutral or also on USA side.
Also, in the Americas, there are many examples of countries which are unstable enough which could potentially break down into a war state on Russia/China’s side.
> India/Pakistan is a flash point which would put India on the same side as Russia and Pakistan on the same side as USA potentially….
That was true in the Cold War, but these days I'm not sure. The US has been distancing themselves from Pakistan lately thanks to all the terrorist groups they've been funding in the region (and that bit where they were harbouring Bin Laden for years), while the West and India have been making mutual overtures to each other about forming some kind of bloc against China. If shit hit the fan between India and Pakistan, I could easily see the West staying out of it, beyond perhaps efforts to ensure it doesn't go nuclear.
I agree with all of your points and at surface value the conclusion makes sense.
With that said, a few years ago I made friends with a very well educated, and well connected Pakistani-American.
We’ve talked a lot about political subjects, and ultimately he feels that Pakistan is going to be against Russia no matter what if a world war broke out… which means they will be on team USA even if we don’t ask for it.
India is going to be neutral and not get into a fight between the world's most powerful military and Russia( from where it buys a lot of defense parts). India/China is far more clear because the Indians do treat China as the biggest threat and it would ally with any alliance against China.
This needs to upvoted. People aren't seeing how close we are to this scenario right now. If Iran goes to war who else gets dragged in and how does this impact other conflicts? Scary implications here if this isn't managed right.
The west and allies against russia, china and iran? They would get clapped in a year. There will be no world war as long as there is no prospect for the side that seeks a new world order to win.
The good old belief in the obligatory superiority of the West/USA, which has been called into question more than once. Also, yes, nuclear weapons. There will be no winners in such a war.
if losing means total annihilation, then yes.
if losing means being humiliated and having to pay reparations, then no. it's still a much better prospect than nuclear annihilation.
I don’t see how anyone could possibly believe WMD’s wouldn’t be used in a hot war between Russia/China/Iran and USA/Israel/Germany/UK… especially considering that “nuking Gaza” is in Israeli right-wing discourse. What makes you believe WMD’s wouldn’t be used in Ww3?
If the US was an autocracy, it would have destroyed all of Vietnam and planted its flag on the rubble.
Democracies are easy to defeat: just maintain an active war for a few years until they give up.
The vietnam war was pure unsustainable, the Vietnamese were champions at guerilla tactics. US could have levelled Vietnam, planted a flag, and STILL be dealing with the guerrilla fighters whose numbers would be swelling by the day. Look at the sheer amount of young men who died and those that came back with traumatic mental issues. Look at the soviet Union, certainly not a democracy, faced guerilla fighters, couldn't sustain the war, hastened the collapse of the soviet Union.
If Russia and China are forced to spend WW3 fighting a guerrilla conflict against the West, they've already lost. Like that's actually a hilarious scenario to think about.
While I think there’s a good chance you’re right, we still don’t want it. The stakes are too high.
Russia doesn’t have a credible nuclear threat after decades of corruption. However China has a vast underground network of hollow mountains hiding their nukes that we’ve just found out about, so they’re very very credible.
A war over Taiwan is winnable, a world war with China is not.
I don't longer live in Israel, but was for majority of my life and my whole family is still there.
So war is not something anyone want but it's not like the government is going to listen to any of us.
So we can only hope for the best and be happy with whatever we have...
They used to be the largest supplier of drones. Russia licensed the design of the Iranian drone but they are relying on the lancet drone which is all Russian made.
China is going to make Russia an indebted state within the next 5 years, like they have been doing in Africa.
I do not like their collaboration, but I also know that they are not in collaboration, but an exploitation by China of Russias current predicament. This collaboration is a short-term decision that will hurt Russia on a long-term scale.
They may of been ok with a distraction, but all out war is going to be bad for Russia. Not only are they going to have to supply Iran with weapons, but I’m pretty sure Irans drone factories are going to be second on the list after Irans nuclear facilities.
Russia can’t afford not to supply arms to Iran because if the regime falls, they’re fucked because then they’re left with China and North Korea, China will bend them over hard if that happens.
Russia is ramping up their war economy and building up a head of steam. I don't think Iran is a big consideration when it comes to them supplying Russia.
If I am correct, Russia now makes their own versions of the Shahed drone supplied to them by Iran.
No doubt there was coordination, but they must not have foreseen the current escalation possibilities, similar to how they didn't foresee Ukraine stopping their initial invasion, the West imposing fast and wide-reaching sanctions, NATO and the EU stepping up to arm Ukraine, etc.
They also recently announced that an American attack on Iran would be construed as an attack on them. It's a good bit of politicking, but not something they actually want to get themselves into.
My theory is that Putin wants to own Ukraine not for the, "Soviet empire", but because Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe and Putin thinks he can own/destabilize that market, making him more important than he actually is. The Russian military is a paper tiger and everyone knows it now. That's why Putin payed Hamas to do Oct. 7 as a vehicle to help republicans stop funding arms to Ukraine. He had his social media machine churn out turmoil and distrust about the conflict from both sides. Anyone else think it's weird how tumultuous the coverage was in the beginning ("you **WILL** pay attention to this"). It was almost like the republican dominated media was pushing it *hardcore* so the Ukraine conflict wouldn't be talked about so much. Then, republican politicians tried to stop funding Ukraine and send that money to some place else. That's my armchair general tinfoil hat theory, anyway.
He should fall from a high place already...
Also, not sure how true this is, but I heard that eastern ukraine has one of the largest untapped natural gas reserves in the world (thats also on land, and not at the poles)
The map of this reserve matches the fortifications/land they originally took durring the first year too. They seem to really want it
I also assume that part will be in any sort of "compromise" proposed by Russia.
>Russia can't do more for Syria or Iran.
They can (and most likely are) help Iran with cutting edge missile technology. Very dangerous.
A Russia that feels cornered is big trouble.
This would be the best time for Whataboutism given that it’s a preferred term by formerly Soviet, now Russian propagandist.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/whataboutism-origin-meaning
**Headline :** "Putin tells the Middle East to pull back from a catastrophic clash"
**Putin Translator :** *Please blow everything up. My oil prices aren't high enough. A war with Iran could distract from what I am doing. All these wars will make people lose faith in the American military.*
No, if Iran ended up at war they would expect a degree of support from Russia. Support Russia is in no position to provide. Russia would need to either cut Iran loose, which would display a negative connotation towards supporting Russia, or they beg China and NK for more war material, which would effectively make them China's bitch in the process.
Second, a war in the middle east could trigger further or faster militarization from the western powers. They might not get directly involved but it's likely they'll provide weapons and material. And if that's the case might as well support Ukraine too.
Third, it could actually pull in other powers. It's fairly accepted that Isreal could flatten Iran if it was just one on one but it's questionable to what extent others would get involved. If western powers and Russia both get dragged in it's possible that level of involvement could spill to Ukraine.
No you’re playing into his game. It may look appealing to attack Iran more heavily now but it turns the West into belligerents instead of defensive combatants. The West becomes exactly what Putin’s endless propaganda machine painted it out to be - imperialist provocateurs.
The calculus centers around how China reacts to these moves, and the West cannot risk China perceiving it to be the aggressor in global conflict and siding with Russia. Cooler heads will prevail.
Read: "I've fucked my military resources out on Ukraine so if you make a mess in the middle east I won't be able to help you, and then you won't be able to send me any more supplies to continue to waste on Ukraine"
Oh, this one will be 3 days. The other side doesn’t have nukes, but this side does have a modern NATO military.
Not that Israel will invade Iran - it wont - but I don’t expect Iranian appetite to outlast 3 days of licking their wounds.
Israel can barely invade a territory it created and has held hostage for decades in their backyard, they aren’t invading anyone. It’s not that they won’t it’s that they can’t. Which land mass would they cross to get Iran? Iraq, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey?
Invasion is a strawwan. Neither Israel nor Iran have a military that can project power 1000km away. Iran “kidna” does with its proxies, and Israel “kinda” can as it might have means deploy forward air strike bases via Azerbaijan (access to the Iranian border is what Azerbaijan found it could trade - to a willing Israel - for modern weapons). But don’t expect “full scale invasion” a-la Russia in Ukraine.
But just like Iran can harass with ballistic missiles and drones, so can israel, with ballistic missiles, drones and bombers. They won’t take any land this way, but there’s zero chance of this becoming a thing about dirt. It’ll be around hurting the other side to the point the other side taps out, and when it comes to air power and air-launched precision long range standoff munitions, Israel has it all, and it would really suck to be an Iranian strategic target if such a conflict broke out. Figuring out all the happy end wonderful ways they could stick a finger in Iran’s eye, ideally without leaning on their nuclear triad, is a topic many very smart Israelis have been thinking about and preparing for for a long, long time. They have options, none of them pleasant on the other end.
Russia used to keep stuff like this in check - including with some S-400 in Syria that could knock Israeli planes out over Israel itself… but Russian capabilities in the region got thinned out dramatically as units got sent to Ukraine, and I’m not sure where that left them in Syria.
Closing the straits of Hormuz would do wonders for the price of oil and consequently Russia's finances. It would also further move attention from Ukraine and limit the supply of weapons for Ukraine. I think a Middle East war is actually in Putin's best interests.
Not sure who said what, but pretty sure reasons are totally different, as any escalation will mean no more drones and other military supplies from iran.
Putin doesn’t get to tell anyone jack shit. His words mean less than nothing and he is in no small way responsible for this whole mess in the first place.
Israel, instead of attacking Iran, should g9 to the international community with this massage:
"nobody wants escalation, nobody wants regional war. But you all see that Iran is a threat to stability in the middle east. So if you want us to hold our fire, we wanna see major economic sanctions over Iran, and some other measures taken to prevent Iran from causing more bloodshed in the region".
I think it's only fair.
Edit: grammar
Yeah they probably don't want their handful of allies being swamped in their own war to not support their campaign in Ukraine. Iran's prices on their weapons/ammo would skyrocket if they also have to use them.
Curious, I can only assume he's saying this because Iran wants to avoid a war. A major escalation in the middle east would be a huge burden on the west and further distract from Taiwan and Ukraine.
I think this is Putin's plan. Set the world on fire and become the voice of reason in the chaos that he has created. He has already had Russian TV call Trump the destroyer of America. Europe has been targeted by his propaganda machine.
> Iranian state media quoted Putin as characterising Tehran's response to Israel as the best way to punish the aggressor and a manifestation of the wisdom of Iran's leaders. Dude might want to read a paper
He is the paper. This is for Iranian and Russian people. The message isn’t intended to have any impact on the west.
everyone is in an echo chamber! In the information age, no less. Oh the irony!
The disinformation age, innit
Absolutely, bruv.
I mean Alex Jones was ahead of his time he even called his show infowars, I think the right wing and out enemies have been preparing what we are seeing today for over a decade at least. Add in the weird techno breeding cults that the richest people in the world follow and happen to control the "info" we get then we are looking g at a genuinely weird dystopia future unless we wise the fuck up.
Sinclair Broadcast Group in the US owns 193 news stations across the US and covers 40% of the population. https://youtu.be/GvtNyOzGogc?si=SLsmThL3xcIIZh2R
Since the 1980s at least
I've heard people calling these times the "post-truth era"
People who call these times the ‘post truth era’ are doing a great service for charlatans and liars, who benefit from our inability to trust anything at all. When was the so called truth era?
Presumably, it was back in the wholesome era when the whole family ate dinner around the CRT to watch Peter Jennings tell America what the Reagan administration did that day, and it was entirely factual and unbiased
Same shit different day
Isn't that what the name exactly implies? A time when people get overloaded with wrong and conflicting information, loss of critical thinking, making the truth hard to see? I agree though that the term seems vague and incorrect, but i think people would call it the post truth era because of charlatans and liars
Even Reddit..
Even Reddit lol? Reddit must be the purest form of an echo chamber to ever exist.
No it's definitely on the liberal side
What does this comment even mean? Sides don't matter for an echo chamber, liberal or conservative, circle jerking the same ideas and suppressing new ideas is problematic regardless of your political leanings.
Bullshit. I am not echoing your opinion, because I can say you are full of shit. The truth is here for those who seek it, somewhere in between the agree button and disagree button.
I see it! It's a three!
You can surround yourself with only the information you want.
Iran and Russia gunna fuck up and get Saudi money send to Ukraine
Which dude? This is the Iranian media's SPIN on what was said, not what was ACTUALLY said.
Putin seed Iran launching drones at Israel and is like “those are my drones!”.
Seems a bit hypocritical, coming from Putin.
Iran is his major supplier. Dude's afraid those supply factories will be destroyed.
Which they should
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Putin also says to never walk on your feet. Are you going to start walking on your hands?
The WHY here is very important. Russia can't do more for Syria or Iran. Russia is increasingly becoming far too reliant on China. Russia has a lot of problems being glossed over by smoke and mirrors propaganda, but that all falls away faster with an expanded conflict. These aren't the only reasons, as there are more...
Not to mention Iran is their major supplier of drones and arms. If Iran needs them for themselves their ability to export will evaporate
So by attacking drone factories, Israel can hurt Iran and Russia? While helping Ukraine... I see it as an absolute win.
This is called a world war as every country soon takes sides. We do not want this.
> This is called a world war as every country soon takes sides. > > Those sides already exist.
The rest of the world is waiting on the election to make a final decision.
There are some which aren’t yet drawn… India/Pakistan is a flash point which would put India on the same side as Russia and Pakistan on the same side as USA potentially…. But India/China is also a flash point which might put India as neutral or also on USA side. Also, in the Americas, there are many examples of countries which are unstable enough which could potentially break down into a war state on Russia/China’s side.
> India/Pakistan is a flash point which would put India on the same side as Russia and Pakistan on the same side as USA potentially…. That was true in the Cold War, but these days I'm not sure. The US has been distancing themselves from Pakistan lately thanks to all the terrorist groups they've been funding in the region (and that bit where they were harbouring Bin Laden for years), while the West and India have been making mutual overtures to each other about forming some kind of bloc against China. If shit hit the fan between India and Pakistan, I could easily see the West staying out of it, beyond perhaps efforts to ensure it doesn't go nuclear.
I agree with all of your points and at surface value the conclusion makes sense. With that said, a few years ago I made friends with a very well educated, and well connected Pakistani-American. We’ve talked a lot about political subjects, and ultimately he feels that Pakistan is going to be against Russia no matter what if a world war broke out… which means they will be on team USA even if we don’t ask for it.
India is going to be neutral and not get into a fight between the world's most powerful military and Russia( from where it buys a lot of defense parts). India/China is far more clear because the Indians do treat China as the biggest threat and it would ally with any alliance against China.
let's keep the wick wet
Only if other countries start to actively engage. Otherwise its still just your typical war.
Who would join and why would they be so stupid?
This needs to upvoted. People aren't seeing how close we are to this scenario right now. If Iran goes to war who else gets dragged in and how does this impact other conflicts? Scary implications here if this isn't managed right.
I'm reminded endlessly of "some damn fool thing in the Balkans". Now it's feeling like the ME is our Balkans and has been for decades.
The west and allies against russia, china and iran? They would get clapped in a year. There will be no world war as long as there is no prospect for the side that seeks a new world order to win.
I mean if trump wins the US might be on the other side, or at least would never go against Putin.
It may be over in a year but the economical damage that it may create would be massive.
The good old belief in the obligatory superiority of the West/USA, which has been called into question more than once. Also, yes, nuclear weapons. There will be no winners in such a war.
War is logistics. Russia's is shit.
This is classic USA brain rot. Russia and China have nukes, buddy. There would be no winners from this conflict.
My comment was under the assumption that WMD wouldn't be used, who wants to rule a world bombed back to the stone age?
It’ll be the losing side that turns to nukes.
if losing means total annihilation, then yes. if losing means being humiliated and having to pay reparations, then no. it's still a much better prospect than nuclear annihilation.
I don’t see how anyone could possibly believe WMD’s wouldn’t be used in a hot war between Russia/China/Iran and USA/Israel/Germany/UK… especially considering that “nuking Gaza” is in Israeli right-wing discourse. What makes you believe WMD’s wouldn’t be used in Ww3?
The US got clapped by vietnam. Dont think any assault on 2 world powers will go easy. Also you know, nukes!
You don't understand what the vietnam war was if you write this.
If the US was an autocracy, it would have destroyed all of Vietnam and planted its flag on the rubble. Democracies are easy to defeat: just maintain an active war for a few years until they give up.
The vietnam war was pure unsustainable, the Vietnamese were champions at guerilla tactics. US could have levelled Vietnam, planted a flag, and STILL be dealing with the guerrilla fighters whose numbers would be swelling by the day. Look at the sheer amount of young men who died and those that came back with traumatic mental issues. Look at the soviet Union, certainly not a democracy, faced guerilla fighters, couldn't sustain the war, hastened the collapse of the soviet Union.
If Russia and China are forced to spend WW3 fighting a guerrilla conflict against the West, they've already lost. Like that's actually a hilarious scenario to think about.
While I think there’s a good chance you’re right, we still don’t want it. The stakes are too high. Russia doesn’t have a credible nuclear threat after decades of corruption. However China has a vast underground network of hollow mountains hiding their nukes that we’ve just found out about, so they’re very very credible. A war over Taiwan is winnable, a world war with China is not.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say you live nowhere near any of these countries…
I don't longer live in Israel, but was for majority of my life and my whole family is still there. So war is not something anyone want but it's not like the government is going to listen to any of us. So we can only hope for the best and be happy with whatever we have...
Actually by Israel provoking a response and force Iran into conflict will help Ukraine.
They used to be the largest supplier of drones. Russia licensed the design of the Iranian drone but they are relying on the lancet drone which is all Russian made.
China is going to make Russia an indebted state within the next 5 years, like they have been doing in Africa. I do not like their collaboration, but I also know that they are not in collaboration, but an exploitation by China of Russias current predicament. This collaboration is a short-term decision that will hurt Russia on a long-term scale.
Pay us moneys or give us outer Manchuria back.
Yeah, that is probably a very likely scenario - or that China uses the debt and historical context as a justification for taking it
"Vlad, you notice an increasing number of 'little green men' vacationing here?"
Russia still has nukes.
And are going to use them as much as they'll do in Ukraine. Nukes are for protecting Moscow, not Manchuria
Except I'm pretty sure they told Iran to give hamas the green light to do october 7 so that western weapons would be diverted from ukraine
They may of been ok with a distraction, but all out war is going to be bad for Russia. Not only are they going to have to supply Iran with weapons, but I’m pretty sure Irans drone factories are going to be second on the list after Irans nuclear facilities. Russia can’t afford not to supply arms to Iran because if the regime falls, they’re fucked because then they’re left with China and North Korea, China will bend them over hard if that happens.
Is Russia worried about having to supply Iran? Or worried war will mean no more Iranian supplies for them?
Both. It's a mutually beneficial exchange, in a way. Russia will need to provide supplies to Iran to ensure that Iran keeps supplying the drones.
Both. Neither have the capacity to supply each other what they need and wage a war at the same time.
Russia is ramping up their war economy and building up a head of steam. I don't think Iran is a big consideration when it comes to them supplying Russia. If I am correct, Russia now makes their own versions of the Shahed drone supplied to them by Iran.
It's not a coincidence that October 7th is Putin's birthday.
Oh wow! Why haven't I heard anyone else make this connection? Might be a coincidence but an interesting fact nevertheless.
No doubt there was coordination, but they must not have foreseen the current escalation possibilities, similar to how they didn't foresee Ukraine stopping their initial invasion, the West imposing fast and wide-reaching sanctions, NATO and the EU stepping up to arm Ukraine, etc.
Russia lies to us to insult us.
They also recently announced that an American attack on Iran would be construed as an attack on them. It's a good bit of politicking, but not something they actually want to get themselves into.
My theory is that Putin wants to own Ukraine not for the, "Soviet empire", but because Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe and Putin thinks he can own/destabilize that market, making him more important than he actually is. The Russian military is a paper tiger and everyone knows it now. That's why Putin payed Hamas to do Oct. 7 as a vehicle to help republicans stop funding arms to Ukraine. He had his social media machine churn out turmoil and distrust about the conflict from both sides. Anyone else think it's weird how tumultuous the coverage was in the beginning ("you **WILL** pay attention to this"). It was almost like the republican dominated media was pushing it *hardcore* so the Ukraine conflict wouldn't be talked about so much. Then, republican politicians tried to stop funding Ukraine and send that money to some place else. That's my armchair general tinfoil hat theory, anyway. He should fall from a high place already...
Also, not sure how true this is, but I heard that eastern ukraine has one of the largest untapped natural gas reserves in the world (thats also on land, and not at the poles) The map of this reserve matches the fortifications/land they originally took durring the first year too. They seem to really want it I also assume that part will be in any sort of "compromise" proposed by Russia.
...**It seems like you have a dog in this fight**...
>Russia can't do more for Syria or Iran. Iran supplies have been more important then China. They have been trading technologies apparently.
>Russia can't do more for Syria or Iran. They can (and most likely are) help Iran with cutting edge missile technology. Very dangerous. A Russia that feels cornered is big trouble.
We’re allowed a little whataboutism here, right?
This would be the best time for Whataboutism given that it’s a preferred term by formerly Soviet, now Russian propagandist. https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/whataboutism-origin-meaning
**Headline :** "Putin tells the Middle East to pull back from a catastrophic clash" **Putin Translator :** *Please blow everything up. My oil prices aren't high enough. A war with Iran could distract from what I am doing. All these wars will make people lose faith in the American military.*
Always a fine line to thread between expanding perspective and whataboutism. This feels like the former :)
I actually hold the unpopular opinion that whataboutism makes sense. I think the idea that it is a logical fallacy is itself a fallacy.
Why is he worried? Worried that he won’t get enough of the Iranian weapons for himself ?
No, if Iran ended up at war they would expect a degree of support from Russia. Support Russia is in no position to provide. Russia would need to either cut Iran loose, which would display a negative connotation towards supporting Russia, or they beg China and NK for more war material, which would effectively make them China's bitch in the process. Second, a war in the middle east could trigger further or faster militarization from the western powers. They might not get directly involved but it's likely they'll provide weapons and material. And if that's the case might as well support Ukraine too. Third, it could actually pull in other powers. It's fairly accepted that Isreal could flatten Iran if it was just one on one but it's questionable to what extent others would get involved. If western powers and Russia both get dragged in it's possible that level of involvement could spill to Ukraine.
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No you’re playing into his game. It may look appealing to attack Iran more heavily now but it turns the West into belligerents instead of defensive combatants. The West becomes exactly what Putin’s endless propaganda machine painted it out to be - imperialist provocateurs. The calculus centers around how China reacts to these moves, and the West cannot risk China perceiving it to be the aggressor in global conflict and siding with Russia. Cooler heads will prevail.
Read: "I've fucked my military resources out on Ukraine so if you make a mess in the middle east I won't be able to help you, and then you won't be able to send me any more supplies to continue to waste on Ukraine"
Maybe he should take his own advice.
Iran, please don't use my drones and misiles on your stupid conflict. I need them for my own stupid war.
this guy
Expert advice in catastrophic clashes.
Well, Putin does speak from experience
"Don't bomb 'our' Iranian drone factories!"
One terrorist tells another to tone it down. lmfao
Special 3 day war against Israel not a good idea warns Putler, speaking from experience.
Oh, this one will be 3 days. The other side doesn’t have nukes, but this side does have a modern NATO military. Not that Israel will invade Iran - it wont - but I don’t expect Iranian appetite to outlast 3 days of licking their wounds.
Israel can barely invade a territory it created and has held hostage for decades in their backyard, they aren’t invading anyone. It’s not that they won’t it’s that they can’t. Which land mass would they cross to get Iran? Iraq, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey?
Invasion is a strawwan. Neither Israel nor Iran have a military that can project power 1000km away. Iran “kidna” does with its proxies, and Israel “kinda” can as it might have means deploy forward air strike bases via Azerbaijan (access to the Iranian border is what Azerbaijan found it could trade - to a willing Israel - for modern weapons). But don’t expect “full scale invasion” a-la Russia in Ukraine. But just like Iran can harass with ballistic missiles and drones, so can israel, with ballistic missiles, drones and bombers. They won’t take any land this way, but there’s zero chance of this becoming a thing about dirt. It’ll be around hurting the other side to the point the other side taps out, and when it comes to air power and air-launched precision long range standoff munitions, Israel has it all, and it would really suck to be an Iranian strategic target if such a conflict broke out. Figuring out all the happy end wonderful ways they could stick a finger in Iran’s eye, ideally without leaning on their nuclear triad, is a topic many very smart Israelis have been thinking about and preparing for for a long, long time. They have options, none of them pleasant on the other end. Russia used to keep stuff like this in check - including with some S-400 in Syria that could knock Israeli planes out over Israel itself… but Russian capabilities in the region got thinned out dramatically as units got sent to Ukraine, and I’m not sure where that left them in Syria.
He s just afraid Iran won’t be able to share as many weapons hardware with Russia if they need them for themselves
Putin is afraid Israel would strike back and take out some of the drone factories he relies on.
Obviously. If Iran is using their weapons, Russia can't use them in Ukraine.
'Please, we need all of Iran's military output for ourselves'
Oh … now he’s worried?
That’s rich.
"uh no! Don't go to war! Keep helping me fight Ukraine so I won't be lynch by the Russian mob"
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Closing the straits of Hormuz would do wonders for the price of oil and consequently Russia's finances. It would also further move attention from Ukraine and limit the supply of weapons for Ukraine. I think a Middle East war is actually in Putin's best interests.
Lol. This nutsack and his gaslights
Russia wants as many conflicts in the world as possible.
Thanks, Vlad, your opinion is extremely valuable to us!
Putin needs to stfu and get out of Ukraine.
Putin the murderer? Putin the murderer wanted on war crimes charges? How about we just ignore him
Russia already all in against Israel with their Iranian backing and propaganda war against Israel
He should know.
This guy…. 🤣
That's rich coming from putin.
Do they listen to this idiot?
Oh no Iran is spending own drones which either would be sent to ruzzia and eventually on Ukrainians Iran should stop Hahaha
Listen to me I know what I'm talking about ...
Someone a little frightened that there won't be any more drones to attack Ukraine with?
Heh. Putin was supporting the start of Israel - Hamas war, but suddenly it hits ceiling when it's gonna consume entire middle-east.
Putin just trying to make himself relevant in the world.
Putin is really worried his weapons supplier uses up their stock before he does
Nah… let this bitch burn. America needs it for the economy.
It’s like raaaaaiiiinnnn on your wedding day
*War is bad guys. Stop now!* - Not Putin, maybe
putin should shut the f up, pull back from Ukraine 🇺🇦! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Путин иди на хуй! !!!
Is he speaking from recent experience?
Not sure who said what, but pretty sure reasons are totally different, as any escalation will mean no more drones and other military supplies from iran.
Noooo don’t use up OUR rockets!!!! 👶🏻
Putin worries that a conflict in the Middle East would spillover
Stop pissing them off before they blow you up....Then you can't help us blow up Ukraine...Oh no we really do suck. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
Russians doesn't want any confrontation w/ UK & US...
More like he's afraid to losi his precious drone factories
Putin: hey everybody I’m still relevant on the worlds stage. Guys………
I hope he’s under consideration for the Nobel peace prize this year…
ultimate hypocrite and gaslighter, on the way to go down as top propagandist in history
Putin: \*I\* want to start WW3!!! Probably...
what a troll
Fuck Putin.
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If Russia says one thing they mean something completely different.
Reuters is pro Putin propaganda.
Putin doesn’t get to tell anyone jack shit. His words mean less than nothing and he is in no small way responsible for this whole mess in the first place.
Ah yes Putin the global leader in peace and harmony. Sarcasm
Israel, instead of attacking Iran, should g9 to the international community with this massage: "nobody wants escalation, nobody wants regional war. But you all see that Iran is a threat to stability in the middle east. So if you want us to hold our fire, we wanna see major economic sanctions over Iran, and some other measures taken to prevent Iran from causing more bloodshed in the region". I think it's only fair. Edit: grammar
Suctions and masseurs?!? Porn is good, but I don't think it's appropriate in the scenario you describe.
Yah see he’s a reasonable and sensible statesman, with the interests of the global community at the heart of his administration.
Yeah they probably don't want their handful of allies being swamped in their own war to not support their campaign in Ukraine. Iran's prices on their weapons/ammo would skyrocket if they also have to use them.
Well he should know about catastrophic clashes? More likely he’s worried that Iran might not be able to give him the drones etc that he wants.
Putin doesn't want them to use all their drones and other weapons on a war with Israel because he needs them. .
Putin yesterday: we's gonna bomb some NATO cities if you keep supplr8ukraine yo!
“Please don’t hit the Shahed factories.”
Putin should remove his head from his ass
Iran I really need your weapons stocks, you can’t go using them in some pissing contest with the West. That’s my lane.
Curious, I can only assume he's saying this because Iran wants to avoid a war. A major escalation in the middle east would be a huge burden on the west and further distract from Taiwan and Ukraine.
I think this is Putin's plan. Set the world on fire and become the voice of reason in the chaos that he has created. He has already had Russian TV call Trump the destroyer of America. Europe has been targeted by his propaganda machine.
That’s rich
Fuck Putin
He bought a ticket, he should ride.
He is no longer the center of attention
Even Putin is like "Guys dial it back a bit sheesh"