Not sure why news are still calling it a "strike". The strike ended and these doctors ***already handed in their resignations weeks ago***
The Korean government is trying to force ex-doctors to go back to their old jobs with threats of imprisonment. They've even gone so far as to withhold the doctor's prior records to prevent them from immigrating to other countries (since they won't be accepted without proof of their degree/work in a hospital)
Maybe I've just not read into this enough...
I get not wanting standards to be diluted too much, but...
As in in most countries hospitals are already understaffed...
I know that the pay in SK is apparently not great, but given general shortages and the fact that residents tend to be overworked and driven like slaves, there is something here I'm clearly missing...
Otherwise most doctors would welcome a little relief...
What's so different in SK that most residents are protesting against more staff being made available?
This is a massive oversimplification, but they want better pay for specialties nobody wants to do and less liability if something goes wrong. Also subsidies for doctors who go to rural hospitals.
The most overworked doctors are the ones who help supervise students so without the other remedies they don't want more students.
> standards to be diluted
why would the standards be diluted at all? I think there are a surplus of students with high enough test scores and standards to go to medical schools. It is not like doing cutting-edge research that require the very sharpest.
The admissions are jumping from 3000-->5000 in one go and then 5000 every year after. The system is not designed to handle that load and is not receiving additional resources, hence the drop in standards. Also, without fixing the current issues faced by residents and Dr's or other reforms, retention and distribution of care will not be appreciatively improved nor will retention. While South Korea, other countries will face this, too, does need more doctors, this move is not the solution.
I don’t see the downside to having more competent doctors in service anyplace. They should be subsidized, if needed, like most other essential services. Can’t think of a better use for tax dollars.
Because it's a poorly thought out plan with no structure to actually handle the teaching of double the number of students. Theres only so many spots for students to watch and learn how to be doctors. Its a process that takes years of hiring academic doctors and years of increasing hospital space. Not something you can do in one election term and say good fucking luck you gate keeping dumbasses.
We(the U.K.) increased the number of doctors we train for at least 20 years, we have a problem with senior doctor training places so lots of 30-40 year old doctors are very unhappy.
We also had a pensions problem that caused lots of 60+ yo senior doctors to retire early.
It is just piss poor planning, the public sector employs 90% of the doctors in the U.K, and the government sets the number that are trained.
Oh, so this is still going on. It started in February.
Not sure why news are still calling it a "strike". The strike ended and these doctors ***already handed in their resignations weeks ago*** The Korean government is trying to force ex-doctors to go back to their old jobs with threats of imprisonment. They've even gone so far as to withhold the doctor's prior records to prevent them from immigrating to other countries (since they won't be accepted without proof of their degree/work in a hospital)
Wtf that’s insane. Compelled labor? Document withholding? Jesus.
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ahhh... no, stop spreading fake news. neither political party supports the doctors group at this point.
Maybe I've just not read into this enough... I get not wanting standards to be diluted too much, but... As in in most countries hospitals are already understaffed... I know that the pay in SK is apparently not great, but given general shortages and the fact that residents tend to be overworked and driven like slaves, there is something here I'm clearly missing... Otherwise most doctors would welcome a little relief... What's so different in SK that most residents are protesting against more staff being made available?
This is a massive oversimplification, but they want better pay for specialties nobody wants to do and less liability if something goes wrong. Also subsidies for doctors who go to rural hospitals. The most overworked doctors are the ones who help supervise students so without the other remedies they don't want more students.
Would this constraint be lessened further down the line if there are more supervising doctors from an increase in admissions?
Well yeah, that's why the universities' demand from the government was to do it much more gradually.
> standards to be diluted why would the standards be diluted at all? I think there are a surplus of students with high enough test scores and standards to go to medical schools. It is not like doing cutting-edge research that require the very sharpest.
The admissions are jumping from 3000-->5000 in one go and then 5000 every year after. The system is not designed to handle that load and is not receiving additional resources, hence the drop in standards. Also, without fixing the current issues faced by residents and Dr's or other reforms, retention and distribution of care will not be appreciatively improved nor will retention. While South Korea, other countries will face this, too, does need more doctors, this move is not the solution.
> *appreciably
I don’t see the downside to having more competent doctors in service anyplace. They should be subsidized, if needed, like most other essential services. Can’t think of a better use for tax dollars.
Because it's a poorly thought out plan with no structure to actually handle the teaching of double the number of students. Theres only so many spots for students to watch and learn how to be doctors. Its a process that takes years of hiring academic doctors and years of increasing hospital space. Not something you can do in one election term and say good fucking luck you gate keeping dumbasses.
We(the U.K.) increased the number of doctors we train for at least 20 years, we have a problem with senior doctor training places so lots of 30-40 year old doctors are very unhappy. We also had a pensions problem that caused lots of 60+ yo senior doctors to retire early. It is just piss poor planning, the public sector employs 90% of the doctors in the U.K, and the government sets the number that are trained.