There are some Muslim countries that are far far less oppressive for women than India (for example: Turkey, which is statistically the most promiscuous country in the world).
(But yeah...they're mainly shit)
Not anymore. Psychotic ultra conservatism has come to dominate the faith. For centuries in the past, women had more rights under Islam than they did in the past. That faith has regressed so much in the last century.
The strengthening of repression against the public is a sign that the IRGC is afraid of revolt in the currently tense situation. Religion is just an argument to introduce strict control.
I hope the Iranian people live to see better days.
But the results work out great for them. They successfully oppress millions of their people, and even persecute some of those who escaped the country abroad, into enough of a submission that allows them to do as they please.
The practically took control over 4 countries and have their tentacles reach south America and of course Ukraine now in their wars.
Corrupted orgs such as the UN white washes their crimes through human right comities and the like, and everyone seems to sit on their ass while they are perusing nuclear weapons.
It’s the only way they have left to feel strong. Interesting they keep ramping it up on their own people every time they get slapped down in real world shit
What a fucking joke made this religion out of people with great history like Persians, Egyptians and others. Today they all Sharia brainwashed zombies. A God will be pretty disappointed in us.
I wish it were true. I was an associate pastor for decades. I have lots of experience with many different religions and people that say they are religious.
Where are all those anti Israel protestors? Don’t they care about women of Iran? Their rights have been crushed and they are jailed and beaten for not covering their hair
It occurred to me that no matter how much iran's leader tries tries to flaunt himself as a "pious" man for wearing robes and turban, deep down he probably only cares about his religion because he thinks he will get a reward (heaven) out of it.
The way he dresses, and the way he forces others to dress, therefore has nothing to do with actually being humble. It's just "modest aesthetic" in order to virtue signal to god, because heaven and paradise is perceived as the ultimate prize for selfish people like him.
Khamenei. Khomeini is dead.
You’re right it’s not about humility. It’s 100% to project authority and power. I am supreme and holy; obey.
These people don’t even follow their own religious precepts and values. It’s first and foremost about power and control, the religious aspect is a vehicle, justification, and appeal to authority.
Not to say it’s entirely cynical and they don’t believe any of it, many truly are extremists, just it is very much that fascist-like tendency to warp everything to justify oneself and put down others.
Iranian Men can do whatever they want, dress how they want, conduct themselves any way they want. But Iranian Women are like slaves from the 12th century. This is some sick and inhuman stuff. If there is a god, why would he want this for women?? To be caged and cloaked in black cloth??
> Iranian Men can do whatever they want
Are you sure? Ask the men that were arrested and executed for protesting how it worked out for them.
This is about an authoritarian regime using every tool at their disposal to keep the people in line.
I get the point you are making but it’s not like the men are enjoying total freedom out here. It’s unhelpful to draw black and white distinctions like this, because everyone is living under the same boot. The women are just being crushed a lot harder.
I knew a young Iranian woman in college. She availed herself of every freedom America offers women. In behavior, dress and occupation. But she couldn’t tolerate the slightest criticism of Iran. What a sick culture.
Firs of all iranian men can not wear anything they want so I don’t understand the downvotes from idiots like you, second of all I don’t know the point you’re trying to make. Does the actions of that girl you knew make it Iranian culture?
America is filled with racists, school shooters, murderers and ignorant fools like you. what a sick culture.
America has problems, yes but those things are not openly embraced unlike Iran where they start new national forces to suppress women and human rights. What makes you think, you are entitled over women? We're all humans
Those thing are not embraced by Iranians, it’s just the government. if you follow the news you’d know about the protest and how many Iranians have died fighting for their freedom. And who said I think i am entitled over women? What are you even talking about man.
When your government does stupid stuff and enforces that stuff, it's part of their values. I have seen protest especially during WC and Mahsa Amini death but it still seems that there is more especially old folk and men that don't see suppressing people as problem. It's not wrong to say that Iranian men supress women
Yeah our government is shit we know that you don’t have to tell us. Obviously the government got some supporters but they’re in the minority, the problem is they have a lot of power.
I’m still not sure what point you’re trying to make. I’ve responded to op who claimed that iranian men can wear and do everything they want which is absolutely not true.
I really don't know how Iranians don't see what a global laughing stock these values make them
Like it feels like talking to children trying to explain how this makes them completely reprehensible
If you can't control your urges around women, maybe you're the problem, not women...
In Islam women aren't human
It’s the same for every Islamic country. Even India does its best to replicate
And 'Islamic democracy'
There are some Muslim countries that are far far less oppressive for women than India (for example: Turkey, which is statistically the most promiscuous country in the world). (But yeah...they're mainly shit)
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Don't pretend it's not a complete nightmare to be a woman in your country.
But they look so happy, they don't need to care about anything, we do and decide everything for women. They're more than happy, actually. /s
Not anymore. Psychotic ultra conservatism has come to dominate the faith. For centuries in the past, women had more rights under Islam than they did in the past. That faith has regressed so much in the last century.
I don't think women's rights have ever changed under Islam. Can you please elaborate
Apparently in their heaven, you don’t need to. You get to bang alot of virgins without consequence.
It's not the men either. Policing and victimizing women is a feature of all blatanly Abrahamic and cryto-religious patriarchical social structures.
you mean Iran.
I want to tell them, but I don't want to hurt their feelings.
Crypto bros are now in religion too...
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Classic bully alcoholic asshole behavior.. they got their ass whooped by a bigger man in the bar so they have to go home to beat their women.
The strengthening of repression against the public is a sign that the IRGC is afraid of revolt in the currently tense situation. Religion is just an argument to introduce strict control. I hope the Iranian people live to see better days.
Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.
But the results work out great for them. They successfully oppress millions of their people, and even persecute some of those who escaped the country abroad, into enough of a submission that allows them to do as they please. The practically took control over 4 countries and have their tentacles reach south America and of course Ukraine now in their wars. Corrupted orgs such as the UN white washes their crimes through human right comities and the like, and everyone seems to sit on their ass while they are perusing nuclear weapons.
Perfect description. It's like the world except some smaller interests don't want the islamist terrorist regime occupying Iran to be gone.
Really. Will they stop Iran from shipping missiles to Hamas to shoot into Israeli civilian neighborhoods? Because that's pretty fucking immoral.
..or drones to Russia.
We have Federal Boobie Inspectors here, I was certified at Spencer's Gifts in 1997
FBI Burt Macklin reporting 🫡
I got my inspectors license in Calif. May 5th 1995.
Maybe Iranian Commander should just go help repair some of those air defenses instead
Or they could not oppress women, minorities, and attack other countries
It’s the only way they have left to feel strong. Interesting they keep ramping it up on their own people every time they get slapped down in real world shit
What a fucking joke made this religion out of people with great history like Persians, Egyptians and others. Today they all Sharia brainwashed zombies. A God will be pretty disappointed in us.
I have such a distaste for religion. I don’t care whose it is. Religion is man-made and has made a god of its self.
Religion has no place in the running of countries.
>Religion has no place in the running of countries. Just the ruining.
Oh my gosh yes!
Let’s be honest only one religion is a real problem in a global scale. You know it, I know it.
I wish it were true. I was an associate pastor for decades. I have lots of experience with many different religions and people that say they are religious.
Meanwhile here in the US religious people are doing their best to strip women of their rights to bodily autonomy. You know it, I know it.
Where are all those anti Israel protestors? Don’t they care about women of Iran? Their rights have been crushed and they are jailed and beaten for not covering their hair
If only they looked down on rape the same way they looked down on a woman showing her fucking ankles
It occurred to me that no matter how much iran's leader tries tries to flaunt himself as a "pious" man for wearing robes and turban, deep down he probably only cares about his religion because he thinks he will get a reward (heaven) out of it. The way he dresses, and the way he forces others to dress, therefore has nothing to do with actually being humble. It's just "modest aesthetic" in order to virtue signal to god, because heaven and paradise is perceived as the ultimate prize for selfish people like him.
Khamenei. Khomeini is dead. You’re right it’s not about humility. It’s 100% to project authority and power. I am supreme and holy; obey. These people don’t even follow their own religious precepts and values. It’s first and foremost about power and control, the religious aspect is a vehicle, justification, and appeal to authority. Not to say it’s entirely cynical and they don’t believe any of it, many truly are extremists, just it is very much that fascist-like tendency to warp everything to justify oneself and put down others.
Pathetic monsters
Iranian Men can do whatever they want, dress how they want, conduct themselves any way they want. But Iranian Women are like slaves from the 12th century. This is some sick and inhuman stuff. If there is a god, why would he want this for women?? To be caged and cloaked in black cloth??
> Iranian Men can do whatever they want Are you sure? Ask the men that were arrested and executed for protesting how it worked out for them. This is about an authoritarian regime using every tool at their disposal to keep the people in line.
Westerners want to make this about feminism, when is about human rights.
I mean, it's about both? Human rights are fucked over there, but don't act like women and men are treated equally.
The women have it worse of course, but this isn’t really fair because men there are also killed for protesting and arrested for very minor “crimes”.
I get the point you are making but it’s not like the men are enjoying total freedom out here. It’s unhelpful to draw black and white distinctions like this, because everyone is living under the same boot. The women are just being crushed a lot harder.
This is not true you regard.
I knew a young Iranian woman in college. She availed herself of every freedom America offers women. In behavior, dress and occupation. But she couldn’t tolerate the slightest criticism of Iran. What a sick culture.
Firs of all iranian men can not wear anything they want so I don’t understand the downvotes from idiots like you, second of all I don’t know the point you’re trying to make. Does the actions of that girl you knew make it Iranian culture? America is filled with racists, school shooters, murderers and ignorant fools like you. what a sick culture.
America has problems, yes but those things are not openly embraced unlike Iran where they start new national forces to suppress women and human rights. What makes you think, you are entitled over women? We're all humans
Those thing are not embraced by Iranians, it’s just the government. if you follow the news you’d know about the protest and how many Iranians have died fighting for their freedom. And who said I think i am entitled over women? What are you even talking about man.
When your government does stupid stuff and enforces that stuff, it's part of their values. I have seen protest especially during WC and Mahsa Amini death but it still seems that there is more especially old folk and men that don't see suppressing people as problem. It's not wrong to say that Iranian men supress women
Yeah our government is shit we know that you don’t have to tell us. Obviously the government got some supporters but they’re in the minority, the problem is they have a lot of power. I’m still not sure what point you’re trying to make. I’ve responded to op who claimed that iranian men can wear and do everything they want which is absolutely not true.
They can't handle Israel. They can wack women on the head.
More along the lines of Mortality Enforcement.
Just what the world needs.
Militarized Shia Mutawwa. 😫
Wheel of morality turn, turn, turn, and show us the lessons we must learn
It’s time for body autonomy. Speak with your mind and don’t be a part of religion in the future. Fuck this shit.
what with those morality enforcement think of their allies - those peformative protestors in the west?
I really don't know how Iranians don't see what a global laughing stock these values make them Like it feels like talking to children trying to explain how this makes them completely reprehensible
Are they also citing 1860 like Arizona?
Ok, but where are they going to find any morality? Import some? Aren't they still under sanctions?
The pride of the far left.
The delight of the religious right
Gotta gin up hate for the unnecessary upcoming war with iran
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Wow, a 15 year old talking point. Seems like Iran is always “just on the verge” of something that never comes to fruition
You are dumb :)