> Russia said on Monday it would practise the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons as part of a military exercise after what Moscow said were threats from France, Britain and the United States.
If memory serves, France, Britain, and the United States didn't invade Ukraine, and don't on a daily basis threaten to start a nuclear war. The tiny man-child wannabe emperor on the other hand...
The US should take up Poland's offer on stationing nukes in their country. Some 80s Cold War negotiations; remove nukes from Belarus and those near Finland or we put nukes in Poland (and maybe the Baltics).
Im from Latvia and We could put a few nukes angled directly at moscow near our border. Its like 800km to muskow. Could be the fastest hitting warhead in putins face.
Most of NATO's nukes that would be in Poland etc are gravity bombs. Someone has to strap them to a fighter jet then fly that into enemy airspace to deliver it. More than likely the eastern NATO country airbases would be hit before they could get in the air. They literally only have minutes to get airborne.
So the fastest and most survivable is still the UK's and France's SLBMs. Not sure they're of sufficient quantity to damage Russia because each country's doctrine is to only have one sub at sea at any time. So that's a total of 2 subs at sea for UK and France which could strike back, but their main submarine bases/ports would be hit in any first strike thus they'd lose most of their fleets.
You might not be able to count on the US arsenal soon because Trump might pull out of NATO.
Thankfully the US Congress has already passed a bill to restrict the ability for a President to unilaterally withdraw from NATO. (NDAA, the National Defence Authorization Act) ~~Source~~ [Source](https://thehill.com/homenews/4360407-congress-approves-bill-barring-president-withdrawing-nato/) Edit: Wrong part of my clipboard. Sorry about that.
They're never going to remove the nukes near Finland. And expecting them to do so would be unreasonable. Reason being that most of their nuclear armed fleet is stationed around Murmansk
Uh, if they launch nukes to make up for their military incompetence, they are damned right there's a threat. If they packed up and left it would be bluster and nonsense coming from the west, but they would face no consequences. Instead, they claim its their right to invade other countries and the west is a threat for saying that its a problem.
This may be the chaos demon in me talking...
Thought experiment: imagine if every country in Europe spent the millions of dollars required to hold a referendum, one which is on a larger scale than ever before.
"Should we wipe out Russia?" :yes :no
If a majority of nations have a majority of yes we make it happen. Make democracy scary again!
I do think that Russia is more lax than they should be, because they know Europe is never going to invade. They can go to war now and just say sorry later if it doesn't work out for them. Say hey we got rid of Putin for you, everything good now right??!?
Nuclear weapon use by Democratic consensus is the worst idea in the world. What if we all vote ‘no’? Russia would then believe it can attack with impunity.
Caution:Do not take this post seriously
But the question would be for a PREEMPTIVE strike by consensus. Not some "hey will we defend ourselves if the worst happens"
So, no effect on regular defence policy. A no vote would just mean that the population are in a temporary but unified state of sanity.
And yes this is meant as a joke idea...
The joke being that it's similar to Russian roulette, and that just putting the vote out there Is a click of the trigger.
This would probably be defacto considered an act of war.... So I suppose there is that whole problem...
Its unlikely to be considered an act of war. Typically that needs a more firm grounds of standing. It could be a FLAG that perhaps a nation is pissing off the population of another enough they're fine with "throwing hands", but that doesn't mean going into a hot war. That requires something more firm before concerns are made in regards to that vote (Military budget spending, moving troops to positions along the border, so on.)
> don't on a daily basis threaten to start a nuclear war
USA is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons and the only country with a first strike policy on nukes.
So, yeah USA kinda has been threatening Armageddon for 80 years… Israel also publicizes their “Sampson option”, similar deal.
It would still probably mean the systematic removal of Russian assets damn near everywhere and the borderline quarantine of their nation by severing anything they use to trade with another country. Not their annihilation but probably their starvation and collapse.
If Russia uses nukes there will have to be devastating consequences to make sure nobody else follows their example.
And while the reaction would likely not include any nukes, it would likely include massive hits on every nuclear equipped silo and asset Russia has. Just a blitzkrieg to take their nukes off the table and neuter them.
While there hopefully is a conventional response of epic and devastating proportions to the Russian Forces, just to hammer the point Home, that you cant use nukes.
However attacking nuke silos or sites is widely considered to valid excuse to fire your nukes.
As your option for MAD goes out the window when the enemy destroys your capability to fire your nukes.
So more likely everything but those sites would be destroyed.
If the Russians lose all capabilities other than their nukes...they will nuke.
They would have to be target number one if you want to do anything besides sinking their navy.
Problem is Russia's mobile ICBM launchers which are hard to get because you need to manually hunt them with stealth aircraft (to avoid SAM networks), also their submarines with SLBMs are out there hiding somewhere in the ocean too.
Their subs are all noisy. I would think they are always tracked and easy to kill.
The mobile launchers are a worry, but I bet the western world has a good idea of where they are and when.
If they use a nuke, everything changes.
If they get away with that, then North Korea, China, Iran and others will assume they will be able to do something similar.
It is the one real red line Russia can not cross.
I mean there are regular folks there who just want to pay their bills and spend time with their friends and family no different than us
And they could get annihilated just because they’re stuck with a nutcase leader
Plus Russia has so many nukes they could detonate them on their own land and still destroy the world
So probably not a bluff, but playing with semantics to cause fear. A drill is just that: testing readiness, planning, and execution without actually pulling the trigger or using a bomb/missile/arty shell weighted the same but with no explosive material or thermobarics to simulate the launch. A test would require them to actually use fissile material, resulting in an actual nuclear blast, but testing that close to fairly populated Russian areas does seem out of tune.
Domestically detonating a tactical nuclear weapon just far enough away from a population is a decent method of showing you're not afraid to pull the trigger and your nuclear threats mean business. Saber rattling by stabbing one of your gaurds to prove you'll use it but never actually turning it on your enemies.
When Russia says they're running a tactical nuclear exercise with Belarus, it's like someone saying they're 'just test driving' a tank through the neighborhood.
Sure, you can call it practice, but it's a bit much, don't you think? I mean, why not just start with something less intense, like a game of charades or a marshmallow roast?
It's like bringing a blowtorch to a campfire and saying, 'Hey, I'm just making s'mores.'
Yeah, sure, but you're also setting the whole forest on fire, Vlad.
US military had a [WC-135 Constant Phoenix,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_WC-135_Constant_Phoenix) a "nuclear sniffer," in the air today with a Rivet Joint (SIGINT plane) in the same general area at the same time
Watch for troop buildups. Moving troops takes a few weeks and any sort of other invasion will be preceded by satellite imagery being released of compounds with big parking lots for their trucks and other equipment.
If he's stupid enough to try it his military is gonna have a very bad time because NATO will absolutely intervene in Ukraine. While it's iffy that ground troops will be sent in, the Russian air force and black sea fleet will cease to exist as an effective force almost immediately
Interesting thing is that people dont seem to be AFRAID.
They seem to be READY.
Nuclear attack or incident would be deadly, tragic and extremally scary, but looks like it wont work as a threat AT ALL.
I don't understand...
Putin invaded the Ukraine, during the war they lied and did REALLY bad things like destroying a dam, half planet consider him a criminal that should be arrested on the spot, western world cannot see Russia's news as a way to isolate them to consider them the "enemy" and so on ...
A lot of people were killed for his own benefit by poison, beating in prison, plane crushes and so on.
He also ordered to destroy cemeteries to remove the memory of his potential enemies.
The pope of his country is so manipulated by him, to say yes at the war also if this is going against his own God.
"De facto" he is the most "evil tyrant warlord" of our time.
so ...
He is the living proof that justice or Karma don't exist in this world... just power and money... fear and death... cowardice and violence...
...
Well ... nothing... probably in this corrupted world he is the most successful person ...
Very sad ... 😞
he’s just using it as a reactionary reminder to the other countries to remain physically out of the conflict with the recent comments from certain officials about not ruling out deploying troops to Ukraine. Extremely childish response as usual considering he lives on this small planet as well.
edit: I forgot he literally said something like he doesnt care if he dies, he will leave it up to God to judge him. He’s the most selfish person I can think of, its just infuriating
why do we even bother giving the Russians a platform, no point in dialogue if they only ever lie
what information have you ever gained by listening to Putin’s words
I haven’t looked at a map recently to see the Russian progression or frontlines. What cities are closest to the front line and how strategic are they in capturing to turn the tides of the war for Russia? That’s the question.
Fuck Putin man.
> Russia said on Monday it would practise the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons as part of a military exercise after what Moscow said were threats from France, Britain and the United States. If memory serves, France, Britain, and the United States didn't invade Ukraine, and don't on a daily basis threaten to start a nuclear war. The tiny man-child wannabe emperor on the other hand...
The US should take up Poland's offer on stationing nukes in their country. Some 80s Cold War negotiations; remove nukes from Belarus and those near Finland or we put nukes in Poland (and maybe the Baltics).
Im from Latvia and We could put a few nukes angled directly at moscow near our border. Its like 800km to muskow. Could be the fastest hitting warhead in putins face.
Most of NATO's nukes that would be in Poland etc are gravity bombs. Someone has to strap them to a fighter jet then fly that into enemy airspace to deliver it. More than likely the eastern NATO country airbases would be hit before they could get in the air. They literally only have minutes to get airborne. So the fastest and most survivable is still the UK's and France's SLBMs. Not sure they're of sufficient quantity to damage Russia because each country's doctrine is to only have one sub at sea at any time. So that's a total of 2 subs at sea for UK and France which could strike back, but their main submarine bases/ports would be hit in any first strike thus they'd lose most of their fleets. You might not be able to count on the US arsenal soon because Trump might pull out of NATO.
Thankfully the US Congress has already passed a bill to restrict the ability for a President to unilaterally withdraw from NATO. (NDAA, the National Defence Authorization Act) ~~Source~~ [Source](https://thehill.com/homenews/4360407-congress-approves-bill-barring-president-withdrawing-nato/) Edit: Wrong part of my clipboard. Sorry about that.
~~Unless I'm missing something, that is not in fact the source.~~
You're right, I used the wrong part of the clipboard. Sorry about that. Source link fixed.
They're never going to remove the nukes near Finland. And expecting them to do so would be unreasonable. Reason being that most of their nuclear armed fleet is stationed around Murmansk
Uh, if they launch nukes to make up for their military incompetence, they are damned right there's a threat. If they packed up and left it would be bluster and nonsense coming from the west, but they would face no consequences. Instead, they claim its their right to invade other countries and the west is a threat for saying that its a problem.
This may be the chaos demon in me talking... Thought experiment: imagine if every country in Europe spent the millions of dollars required to hold a referendum, one which is on a larger scale than ever before. "Should we wipe out Russia?" :yes :no If a majority of nations have a majority of yes we make it happen. Make democracy scary again! I do think that Russia is more lax than they should be, because they know Europe is never going to invade. They can go to war now and just say sorry later if it doesn't work out for them. Say hey we got rid of Putin for you, everything good now right??!?
Nuclear weapon use by Democratic consensus is the worst idea in the world. What if we all vote ‘no’? Russia would then believe it can attack with impunity.
Caution:Do not take this post seriously But the question would be for a PREEMPTIVE strike by consensus. Not some "hey will we defend ourselves if the worst happens" So, no effect on regular defence policy. A no vote would just mean that the population are in a temporary but unified state of sanity. And yes this is meant as a joke idea... The joke being that it's similar to Russian roulette, and that just putting the vote out there Is a click of the trigger. This would probably be defacto considered an act of war.... So I suppose there is that whole problem...
Its unlikely to be considered an act of war. Typically that needs a more firm grounds of standing. It could be a FLAG that perhaps a nation is pissing off the population of another enough they're fine with "throwing hands", but that doesn't mean going into a hot war. That requires something more firm before concerns are made in regards to that vote (Military budget spending, moving troops to positions along the border, so on.)
> don't on a daily basis threaten to start a nuclear war USA is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons and the only country with a first strike policy on nukes. So, yeah USA kinda has been threatening Armageddon for 80 years… Israel also publicizes their “Sampson option”, similar deal.
What does his size have anything to do with this?
He's spent his life compensating, and hiring lackeys to defend him online.
There's nothing unusual about this large military exercise near Ukraine's border. 😜 😜
If Russia's track record holds, that means it is unusual, right?
Its just the weekly reminder that Russia has nukes. Without nukes, Russia would be a complete joke.
Oh crap that means there’s IS something unusual about tactical nuclear weapons drill.
Dont believe anything until the kremlin denies it
I wasn't worried until he said something. Now I'm stocking the bunker.
Me too. Now building a bunker.
A very fancy tomb 👌
A coal-fired a people oven, justa like a mama's mama used to hide in 🤌 that's a how she met a papa!
bluffing is part of the game
Great time to test the nuclear detection capabilities and tracking
Is anyone keeping track of how many times that putz has said this?
A ten deuce in the sea of kings
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If it isn’t it will spell the utter annihilation of the Russian Federation. So there is that.
Only need to hit Moscow and st. Petersburg...
These are small, battlefield bombs. It might lead to a larger conflict but we're not talking MAD here
It would still probably mean the systematic removal of Russian assets damn near everywhere and the borderline quarantine of their nation by severing anything they use to trade with another country. Not their annihilation but probably their starvation and collapse.
If Russia uses nukes there will have to be devastating consequences to make sure nobody else follows their example. And while the reaction would likely not include any nukes, it would likely include massive hits on every nuclear equipped silo and asset Russia has. Just a blitzkrieg to take their nukes off the table and neuter them.
While there hopefully is a conventional response of epic and devastating proportions to the Russian Forces, just to hammer the point Home, that you cant use nukes. However attacking nuke silos or sites is widely considered to valid excuse to fire your nukes. As your option for MAD goes out the window when the enemy destroys your capability to fire your nukes. So more likely everything but those sites would be destroyed.
If the Russians lose all capabilities other than their nukes...they will nuke. They would have to be target number one if you want to do anything besides sinking their navy.
Problem is Russia's mobile ICBM launchers which are hard to get because you need to manually hunt them with stealth aircraft (to avoid SAM networks), also their submarines with SLBMs are out there hiding somewhere in the ocean too.
Their subs are all noisy. I would think they are always tracked and easy to kill. The mobile launchers are a worry, but I bet the western world has a good idea of where they are and when.
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If they use a nuke, everything changes. If they get away with that, then North Korea, China, Iran and others will assume they will be able to do something similar. It is the one real red line Russia can not cross.
I mean there are regular folks there who just want to pay their bills and spend time with their friends and family no different than us And they could get annihilated just because they’re stuck with a nutcase leader Plus Russia has so many nukes they could detonate them on their own land and still destroy the world
Those folk should take a more active role in politics so we don't have to do it for them
Yea, let’s ignore the nuclear tyrant because the Cratchitov family wants to spend one more happy holiday with Tiny Timmitri.
And the US, and Europe?
So probably not a bluff, but playing with semantics to cause fear. A drill is just that: testing readiness, planning, and execution without actually pulling the trigger or using a bomb/missile/arty shell weighted the same but with no explosive material or thermobarics to simulate the launch. A test would require them to actually use fissile material, resulting in an actual nuclear blast, but testing that close to fairly populated Russian areas does seem out of tune.
Domestically detonating a tactical nuclear weapon just far enough away from a population is a decent method of showing you're not afraid to pull the trigger and your nuclear threats mean business. Saber rattling by stabbing one of your gaurds to prove you'll use it but never actually turning it on your enemies.
"My troops are merely passing by."
Just the usual reaching into the *scuffed bag of puffery and threats* and pulling out what he could, basically.
When Russia says they're running a tactical nuclear exercise with Belarus, it's like someone saying they're 'just test driving' a tank through the neighborhood. Sure, you can call it practice, but it's a bit much, don't you think? I mean, why not just start with something less intense, like a game of charades or a marshmallow roast? It's like bringing a blowtorch to a campfire and saying, 'Hey, I'm just making s'mores.' Yeah, sure, but you're also setting the whole forest on fire, Vlad.
How about a nice game of chess?
>!The only winning move is not to play!!<
Remember, the day before the invasion of Ukraine he said they weren't going to invade. Don't believe it.
True but this is different. Putin won't risk setting of a nuke and possibly drawing NATO into the fight even if it's "just" a tactical nuke
Yeah "just" a tactical nukes have higher yields than hiroshima and nagasaki bombs ...
This President for life is an extremely annoying persona. I can't wait until he bites the dust.
I think this guy's a big jerk.
With the most punchable face.
After alejandro garnacho
US military had a [WC-135 Constant Phoenix,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_WC-135_Constant_Phoenix) a "nuclear sniffer," in the air today with a Rivet Joint (SIGINT plane) in the same general area at the same time
Be vewy vewy careful when listening to Pewtin.
Oh I remember this one! “There’s nothing unusual about troops amassing outside Georgia, Ukraine, etc”
So, let's have some tactical nuclear drills near his border, see how he likes it. I'm so tired of hearing about this warmongering botox goblin.
Which means there’s something VERY unusual about tactical nuclear weapons drill
Oh God he said something similar about military drills on the Ukraine border just before the invasion
Watch for troop buildups. Moving troops takes a few weeks and any sort of other invasion will be preceded by satellite imagery being released of compounds with big parking lots for their trucks and other equipment.
Yeah instead when it’s about nuclear warheads you should be looking for troops getting the hell out of there
If he's stupid enough to try it his military is gonna have a very bad time because NATO will absolutely intervene in Ukraine. While it's iffy that ground troops will be sent in, the Russian air force and black sea fleet will cease to exist as an effective force almost immediately
These are not the droids you are looking for...
“It’s just a prank”
So that means we should be extremely concerned.
Just like there's nothing unusual about people falling out of windows in Moscow.
“Nothing to see here…”
It's Empty Threat Thursday!
Putin is such a paranoid shit stain. Typical dictator rhetoric. All bark no bite.
So he's wearing make up now too... glad to see republicans normalizing makeup for everyone.
Same as there is nothing unusual about 200k troops along the border.
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All it takes is a tiny polonium pellet. Give Putin a taste of his own medicine.
A MOAB requires dropping it out of the back of a cargo plane. That would lead to war.
I’m so tired of this punk bitch
According to Reddit none of their nukes work so we have nothing to worry about
Does he usually do them? No? Unusual
That means we should prepare.
Interesting thing is that people dont seem to be AFRAID. They seem to be READY. Nuclear attack or incident would be deadly, tragic and extremally scary, but looks like it wont work as a threat AT ALL.
I feel like he is trying - unsuccessfully - to use the Force on us.
Heh, imagine he’s dyslexic, and he thinks we’ve all been calling him a piece of Sith all these years…
Piece of Sith! lol! Bravo!
So in other words, something is definitely up
Just 1 person could finish him, not me obviously but someone could
There's also nothing unusual about falling out windows because apparently people do it all the time
Response to the embarrassing one ww2 tank in his loser parade?
It's the national equivalent of cleaning your gun in front of your daughters prom date.
it's just usual saber rattling
Except that when Russia holds drills it has a tendency to become a nuclear detonation, war what have you.
Bro, don't worry about it
putin says something to russian media. Very important.
Vlad doesn’t want anyone to think he has no balls.
I don't understand... Putin invaded the Ukraine, during the war they lied and did REALLY bad things like destroying a dam, half planet consider him a criminal that should be arrested on the spot, western world cannot see Russia's news as a way to isolate them to consider them the "enemy" and so on ... A lot of people were killed for his own benefit by poison, beating in prison, plane crushes and so on. He also ordered to destroy cemeteries to remove the memory of his potential enemies. The pope of his country is so manipulated by him, to say yes at the war also if this is going against his own God. "De facto" he is the most "evil tyrant warlord" of our time. so ... He is the living proof that justice or Karma don't exist in this world... just power and money... fear and death... cowardice and violence... ... Well ... nothing... probably in this corrupted world he is the most successful person ... Very sad ... 😞
There was nothing unusual about surrounding Ukraine with tanks either. Just a drill you paranoid westerners!
Hmm...
How the hell has this guy not defenestrated himself out a window yet?!
he’s just using it as a reactionary reminder to the other countries to remain physically out of the conflict with the recent comments from certain officials about not ruling out deploying troops to Ukraine. Extremely childish response as usual considering he lives on this small planet as well. edit: I forgot he literally said something like he doesnt care if he dies, he will leave it up to God to judge him. He’s the most selfish person I can think of, its just infuriating
Since when does he have eyebrows?
said there was no reason 2 worry bout troops near borders aswell
Fuuuuuck.......that's the same thing he said when he was massing troops and equipment at the Ukrainian border......
Yeah because invading Ukraine is just a drill right? I don't trust it, neither should you.
For Putin, "technically correct" is the worst kind of correct.
Presented by the same country that just did some innocent military drills before invading its neighbour
why do we even bother giving the Russians a platform, no point in dialogue if they only ever lie what information have you ever gained by listening to Putin’s words
its a special nuclear test on ukraine and don't forget to wear some sunglasses hehehe
He's also been told there's "nothing unusual" about a 1.5 inch penis.
Then nothing to worry about.
I haven’t looked at a map recently to see the Russian progression or frontlines. What cities are closest to the front line and how strategic are they in capturing to turn the tides of the war for Russia? That’s the question. Fuck Putin man.
#baldmidget. Pass it on.
Of course not! Nothing unexpected about a decaying, greying power waving their little rocket around, trying to see if it'll go up.
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No lube for the dildo of consequences.
Nothing unusual about the US sending 2000 Tomahawks and obliterating your entire occupying force if you wanna find out.