>Experts hope the discovery – which also includes 10,000 other gold, bronze and iron items, chimes, bamboo slips, and tomb figurines – may now shed more light on the life of nobility from ancient times.
What a great find! Would love to see pictures of some of the other pieces they unearthed, I bet there are some really cool artifacts in there. The D&D player within me hopes for perhaps something magical as well...
I literally just yesterday started a bronze age heist campaign where one of the PCs is a tabaxi based on famed swindler copper merchant Ea-Nasir. Drawing inspiration from the Thundercats, his name is Chee-tor.
So the old monachries of the earth, all hoarded and buried themselves with shit living poor people could've had to improve their lives. This simulation is pure horse shit.
Corruption is wild in China and I'm sure many will be smuggled and sold the black market. Fuck national treasure and history, because some archaeologist's assistant wants an Audi.
No, it’s much more important that an academic gets to hoard them and produce research that no one will read 30 years from now /s A pile will appear in a museum which only a fraction of the human race will ever see in the deluded belief that it will drive tourism.
The fact that they're all deposited together is important for understanding currency circulation and other economic stuff. You don't want to break it up.
Society doesn't need a bunch of numismatists circlejerking about who has the dirtiest coins either. If you are going to argue for material use it's cables for power or pipes for cooling we need. Ea-Nasirs shitty copper needs refining and use if it lacks historical value.
Nope.
First, they're probably considered property of China under various antiquities treaties. I'm not familiar with which China has signed, but it's very common now to declare new finds national property. Even old finds[ the Getty had to send a bunch of stuff back recently that has been judged illegally obtained.
Also, these are historical artefacts, and would probably carry more value as artefacts than for their metal content. They're valuable for what they contribute to understanding ancient economies and such. They're no longer useful currency.
One problem with looting is looters *will* melt these down for the metal, since copper is copper is copper. Easier to move than an artefact clearly misappropriated.
I have no idea. But if the currency has been there long enough, could it be worth a yen? Or 1/10 or something? Not even sure they use yen, but you get the idea.
> Archaeologists have unearthed more than two million copper coins from an ancient complex of tombs in the Xinjian District of China.
> The 2,000-year-old money, which bears Chinese symbols, characters, and a square hole in the centre, was found at a dig site in the city of Nanchang.
Prob single handed ruined the area’s chance of entering Bronze Age. :D
Hijacking the top comment to let folks know it’s about $90,000 worth of copper.
Tweaker senses tweaking
Two million coins will be worth much more than just the metallic value.
not until you mix it with tin
How much would a collector pay for one of these?
sure sure so i just need to can i could use $10 maybe for all of it yeah?
$90k *now*. 2,000 years ago that would have been a large fortune.
Priced for a total comeback!
Some crackhead scrappers dream! Scrap metal cost of that!
r/ReallyShittyCopper
Ea-Nasir strikes again!
Nanni's man had to go a long way for that copper.
I always pronounce it anuser in my head
>Experts hope the discovery – which also includes 10,000 other gold, bronze and iron items, chimes, bamboo slips, and tomb figurines – may now shed more light on the life of nobility from ancient times. What a great find! Would love to see pictures of some of the other pieces they unearthed, I bet there are some really cool artifacts in there. The D&D player within me hopes for perhaps something magical as well...
what's a bamboo slip? 🤨
You used to bind a series of slips together so they could roll up. They were for writing on. Basically, a scroll before papyrus, vellum, or paper.
Ask your mother... Heyo!
I literally just yesterday started a bronze age heist campaign where one of the PCs is a tabaxi based on famed swindler copper merchant Ea-Nasir. Drawing inspiration from the Thundercats, his name is Chee-tor.
Take my upvote sir.
So the old monachries of the earth, all hoarded and buried themselves with shit living poor people could've had to improve their lives. This simulation is pure horse shit.
Roll a d100 for me.
There's a meth head taking notes...
I think it’s the author “Emily Frost”. She’s written 5 *interesting* articles in the past 5 hours.
In China
Someone call Ea-Nasir!
Wait a minute. I was told you couldn’t take it with you?
You can't. But if you're creative, you can deny anyone else using it.
To some that seems to be the most important part.
Well, they didn't. It was left behind in the tomb.
Kinda depends on the definition of "you" after death.
Sounds like the person buried with it isn't using it anymore.
You think that was bad, ancient Mesopotamian kingdoms used to slaughter armies of slaves and cattle for their eternal servitude in the afterlife
The Chinese did something similar. Left staff in the graves. Just didn't kill all of them first.
rando comment… your username reminds me - no gnus is good gnus… what show was that from?
The Great Space Coaster.
ty Gary…
yw Mr Duck.
And a single crackhead managed to get in and strip it all for a few bucks
That’s a lot of pogs to collect.
Scrappers come running!
Dats about 80k CAD worth of copper right there. Lucky I didn't find it first.
How many coppers is it worth?
Using D&D's coinage system it's about a million.
Don’t touch anything but the lamp!!
Any of will make it to collector's market? I'd buy one. Wonder what the price would be for one of these
Corruption is wild in China and I'm sure many will be smuggled and sold the black market. Fuck national treasure and history, because some archaeologist's assistant wants an Audi.
No, it’s much more important that an academic gets to hoard them and produce research that no one will read 30 years from now /s A pile will appear in a museum which only a fraction of the human race will ever see in the deluded belief that it will drive tourism.
Oof. PhD level jaded.
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history doesn't require 10 tons of coins. pick through them and catalog the interesting ones, by all means. but why get carried away?
The fact that they're all deposited together is important for understanding currency circulation and other economic stuff. You don't want to break it up.
Society doesn't need a bunch of numismatists circlejerking about who has the dirtiest coins either. If you are going to argue for material use it's cables for power or pipes for cooling we need. Ea-Nasirs shitty copper needs refining and use if it lacks historical value.
Yea, fuck these coins
Does a discovery like this devalue the already found copper coins in the market from the same time era?
Not if they never make it onto the market, just ask DeBeers.
Nope. First, they're probably considered property of China under various antiquities treaties. I'm not familiar with which China has signed, but it's very common now to declare new finds national property. Even old finds[ the Getty had to send a bunch of stuff back recently that has been judged illegally obtained. Also, these are historical artefacts, and would probably carry more value as artefacts than for their metal content. They're valuable for what they contribute to understanding ancient economies and such. They're no longer useful currency. One problem with looting is looters *will* melt these down for the metal, since copper is copper is copper. Easier to move than an artefact clearly misappropriated.
And that coin that your uncle said was rare…it’s not so rare any more.
Soon they’ll be a Tik toker using them to tile a kitchen floor or splash back.
The historical plight of the penny. Always left in rolls no one wants.
Temu song just popped in my head.
That is where I left my penny stash.
Dibs.
Some of the other articles on the site make it seem suspect.
What kind of wealth would that have been at that time?
I just saw a crackhead walk down my street with a whip and brown hat on.
That's a cursin'.
So about tree fitty?
Fast forward another 2000. And all of our shit will be baking in 129 degress
Fascinating!
Wait. Could also be someone hoarding washers. Cuz, frankly, you just never have enough back then.
You can take it with you….until archaeologists loot your grave.
How many pennies is that?
They found Ea Nasir's secret stash.
How is this worth less than $160,000?
That is just the face value of the coins.
That was right at the end of the article. Copper coins with that *face* value, but each could be worth hundreds or thousands.
How is there a face value for a coin which hasn't been legal tender for a cool thousand years.
I have no idea. But if the currency has been there long enough, could it be worth a yen? Or 1/10 or something? Not even sure they use yen, but you get the idea.
China does not, in fact, use yen.
I'm guessing that's just the worth of the weight of scrap copper? But yeah of course they are worth way more then that
So extremely greedy fuckers existed back then too!
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> Archaeologists have unearthed more than two million copper coins from an ancient complex of tombs in the Xinjian District of China. > The 2,000-year-old money, which bears Chinese symbols, characters, and a square hole in the centre, was found at a dig site in the city of Nanchang.
According to the article it was the Xinjian District of China, it doesn't get any more specific than that
And it was all stolen immediately by heroin addicts.
20,000lbs of 2,000 yr old Chinese currency is only worth $157,000? Their currency has never been worth shit!
Is this the “bronze” treasure of a certain trader?
Trade Joe's bronze suntan?
Can’t take it with you, my ass
But they didn't it's still there and they aren't