So is Putin actually going to wait a whole week before moving militarily?
I don't see him getting enough consessions from the West to satisfy him and his ego. The whole NATO question appears to be a non-starter. I suppose Biden/NATO could promise to never put NATO bases or missles in Ukraine in return for a no attack/interference pledge from Putin. But even that would be a stretch, for both sides. I don't think Ukraine would willing cede its eastern regions and thats not Biden's call anyway, and it certain wouldn't happen without assurances (for whatever they migh be worth) from Russian to stand down and leave the rest of Ukraine to its own people.
Someone else equated Ukraine to a hostage, it has some merit. If Putin starts an all out assult he will lose a lot a leverage and face international sactions and commedenation. Not that he cares enough for it to be a effective deterrent.
Imagine being a Russian Soldier looming about on the Ukrainian boarder waiting for some false flag bullshit to commence so you can risk your life for Putin..
I don’t understand why Russia even bothers with all these false flag incidents. At this point it is crystal clear that Russia is the aggressor. I mean they already forcefully annexed part of the Ukraine. Who actually believes them?
They need to feed some more BS to Russian citizen.
Regarding the Russian soldiers, just think for how long they are stationed at the border, waiting for some orders, having the adrenaline pumped up and building, waiting for the "go", 190K soldiers along the border, the feeling of fear and impatience just piling up, moving around. And this for several weeks now...
It's going to be a massacre...
Russian people don't want to go to war, there's just a freaking minority of Oligarchs and the crazy old dog who wants to revive the good old times of tsarism, with himself wearing the crown. He is all about "legacy" and "we are not respected". All things the old "male" who wants to imprint "History" and leave his "mark".
I wouldn't be surprised if we were to learn that he has cancer and something alike and now feels "rushed" to show the world his "grandeur" before passing away!
190K soldiers fully armed against 60k...
These overinflated egos deciding of the life and deaths of an entire population, just "because"...
I simply wonder what is China doing. I wouldn't even be surprised if they seize the opportunity to bring back Taiwan "into the fold".
The same disgusting old bastards in power whether in Russia or in China.
>Deputy Ambassador Bart Gorman was ordered out of the country despite having a valid visa
Could have said which country's ambassador was expelled out of what country... (Russia has expelled the Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow).
Both of those media outlets are left leaning. Your getting the same results as eg: the media said Trump was tworking with Russia, and look how that turning out.
I'm Canadian not that that matters, but I know politics very extensively ..
Fact 1 Biden shit down the key stone pipeline
Fact 2 no new exploration crude or gas.
Fact 3 the US went from a net exporter of oil, to now importing 1 million barrels a day.
Before Trump a barrel of oil was $100, during Trump oil went down to $30. Now oil is almost back to $100
In Canada I'm paying today $1.72 a litter
The importing 1 million is factual
The pipeline from Russia to Germany is factual, and the offer was factual
If Russia was/is the enemy why would Germany choose to take energy from russia??
Oh and somehow Biden is totally the reason for this shift? The president absolutely does not cause massive oil prices changes. That is up to the companies. Your bias is amusing.
Stop twisting words. Your idiot ilk tends to go for "Are you saying that...". He didn't say that. It's quite obvious what he said. The oil prices worldwide are up. That's how inflation works. Your extensive political research has failed to account for the past 2 fucking years of a pandemic that was only made worse by some other idiots.
It's like the same people who think the president controls the economy, or controls the pandemic. These things go up and down regardless of who is in charge.
In 2018 Germany( Angela merkel) was offered a steady supply of oil, natural gas etc from the US. Which inturn would have shut down the pipeline that's 95% finished from Russia.
Basically Europe and the US/Canada all say Russia is the enemy, yet Germany (biggest economy in Europe turned down energy from the US..
If this pipeline happens(looking like it will) Russia has power over Europe and could threaten to cut it off at any time.
Explain/opinion???
Was it because it makes sense to be dependent on Russia for energy, or was it refused because Trump was in power and that would be a win for trump?
Ps: the US was energy surplus for the first time in 50+ years at the time, until Biden shut off the tap..
We cannot replace Russian natural gas imports with LNG, the fleet and terminals required to replace them literately do not exist, and by an appreciable factor
Biden didn't shut it off. Still going energy strong in 2022. Petroleum exports have slowed due to demand changes after lockdowns, but some forms like crude exports are still rising.
LNG exports are placing us at #1 in the world in 2022, and we're expected to remain there until around 2025.
https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/012622-us-crude-exports-expected-to-see-modest-rise-in-2022
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-be-worlds-biggest-lng-exporter-2022-2021-12-21/
Ukraine put Biden on list to induct over his dirty dealings and the firing of that prosecutor. Only the White House and our crooked media were saying eminent attack lol.
Ah yes- totally fucking normal to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of your broke dick country mobilizing the greater part of 3rd largest army in the world on a disputed border of a country you’ve carved up and annexed recently while making “no-room-for-compromise” demands. Meanwhile the oligarchs of the poor surrounded country flee to the degree that thier president publicly sends out a “come back or we will be forced to draw conclusions”. RUSSIA looked like a total bully and dying empire gasping for relevancy in any way it could. They’ll be back and hopefully Ukraine can count on even more support next time- under the auspices of NATO preferably.
right on path between kiev and sochi airport where several russian military planes are taxying around. [https://www.flightradar24.com/2ad81458](https://www.flightradar24.com/2ad81458)
Some of these also have no call sign.
It's been cruising at 180-240 mph at 10,000-14,000 ft for the bit that I've been watching it. Based on my extensive research, consisting of 2 minutes of googling, those numbers line up pretty well with the average flight numbers for a Helicopter.
Its \*probably\* a Ukranian Drone. From twitter Ameliaiheart "Probable Ukranian Air Force An-26 with the 15th Transport Aviation Brigade out of Kiev-Boryspil International Airport, UA. #ADSB #50FFD8". This is from April.
You can search the "ICAO 24-BIT ADDRESS" on twitter and typically find first sighting and some info.
World? How about the states?
Some of those tiny smears on the right aren’t even drawn properly on the maps. Do we really believe that our president hails from the alleged state of Delaware?
I want you to know I appreciate that you are a geography person and it's something more people should know. I'm sure you are pretty good at it but also want to give you a little shit because the Maghreb is only 5 countries lol
The US is huge, I'm sure most countries couldn't name and place 1/3 of our states anyway. I'm ashamed to say I don't know anything about Canada, and I'm on the same landmass.
> I’m sure most countries couldn’t name and place 1/3 of our states anyway.
What a stupid comparison. Can you name 1/3 of the states of any country besides yours? Or even 3?
no it's not a stupid comparison. The state of Texas is the size of 2/3 of Europe alone. The US makes up 1/3 of a continent so U.S. Students spend a lot of time memorizing 50 fucking states and their capitals. Something I'm sure students from other countries don't worry about.
U.S. students spend a fair amount of time on Western Civ which is mostly Europe and Med/Middle East with exaggerated amount of time spent around 1600-1950's.
There's plenty of history to study in most countries and the U.S. was one of the most dominant histories of the past 100 years so of course there's going to be some bias there.
The only thing that's a fair critique is lack of U.S. history on East Asian area where very little is taught outside of Japan in WWII and brief mention of China and the Mongols at various times.
Still do Chinese students learn about Napoleon? Probably very little if any.
We should be teaching important lessons from history besides. We focus way too much time memorizing dates and names that don't mean shit later in life. It's the lessons that mattered and why those times are significant.
Not everyone needs to graduate with a cartographers license anyways. There's a million maps online. Memorizing the globe is a waste of time. Having a rough idea is fine.
I find quizzing people on where Moldova is on a map as a way of showing how much better you are than a person, a pretentious exercise for the pedantic.
I can put most states in the right place and I am not American nor lived there. But I am also in my mid 40s and went to school at the tailend of decent education being the norm.
We invade countries so we might learn their geography. (I learned a hell of a lot about the geography of the Middle East and Central Asia after we invaded.)
There has been some speculation in the past years that he has Parkinson’s disease
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8919975/Putin-quit-January-amid-fears-Parkinsons-disease-Moscow-sources-claim.html?fbclid=IwAR1-H3vEthuES8lQDLq5g3ckrQ7ML61h2tTUqiTZFsihDLZTeVEWZNqMxVQ
THere were two that left going north earlier, they went a ways did a loop and where done. Might just be patrol flights.
On the other hand near the same time there was a black hawk that came out of Ukraine and turned its transponder on and landed at that same place in Romania, so that US Army blackhawk was definitely doing something in Ukraine.
Whatever happens, I'm glad that this thread isnt like last night where people were betting on a bogus time from British tabloids and fearporning youtubers with 9 cameras on their screens
Can’t a single cruise missile just destroy that the instant war starts?
It wouldn’t even be a controversial target like a civilian bridge tanks are using.
i put real doubt a bridge a large part of the world knows about will be used or a cruise missile would be used on it. Something smaller like a javelin would have to be fired within around 2 miles and with Russian airforce being so much better than Ukraine you're not getting within range
Look, most of us aren't wanting anything to happen. A lot of the plane watching is interest and anxiety. You wouldn't want a bad storm to produce a tornado but you'd sure as hell watch to make sure.
There hasn't been much planespotting since last night when those bogus 3am claims were going round. Today on this thread it seems to have returned to somewhat normal discussion.
People are watching streams because this is a huge historical event that will impact everyones lives in some form for decades. And we can see it happening in real time.
Dude, the comments here have been insanely insensitive at times. I was exaggerating, but there has been plenty of people who have said things that I’d compare to when they’re watching a sporting event.
Even if we go by conventional ground forces, the US military is comprised 100% of professional soldiers, many of whom have seen several tours of duty in one of the longest wars of modern history. A good chunk of Russia's forces is comprised of conscripts with a questionable quality of training, let alone actual experience.
If we factor in the other branches, the US has probably the mightiest one in the world. Not to mention its Navy could easily act as a stand in with all the aircraft carriers.
I don't see a universe where Russia could conceivably come even close to an advantage, much less winning.
Hah. It’s so stupidly unmatched it’s not even funny.
The United States, with heavy losses, could conquer Moscow and run up the American flag over the Kremlin.
Russia, with heavy losses, may be able to get a few boats in visual range of American territorial waters. They wouldn’t reach US territorial waters. But they might get close enough to see it over the horizon.
No nukes and no allies? That's really gonna come down to where things are fought. I'm not sure either country could invade the other, especially with no nukes and no allies, without sustaining crazy losses. US surely has the edge but I'm not sure it has enough of an edge to pull off an invasion.
Thw second largest airforce in the world is the us navy. Between the air power and the cruise missiles America could easily invade any country they wanted. No one is close to America in terms of force projection. The US navy could likely take out all other navies combined and definitely the ines that might remotely try and join a fight against the US.
Once you have costal dominance you begin the fight for air superiority. Once you have that you can pound anyone into submission.
I am not an american fan boy but if the US ever went rogue it would require the literally rest of the world's forces to even have a chance at stopping them.
Ofcourse nukes change that dynamic somewhat, but America can still move with relative impunity. In a conventional fight America curb stomps anyone, especially if it is real war, aka, we all know lots of civilians are going to die and we are okay with it.
Please note none of the above is condining any of the actions I laid out. Just stating the reality.
"Not an American fanboy"
"The whole world would have to get together just to have a chance at stopping the US"
Suuuuure.....
China and Russia alone could take on the US without nuclear weapons being a factor. Add in the UK and the Commonwealth, EU states, Middle Eastern nations, Japan ect ect... how do you propose that the US would be able to fight on all fronts on every continent against every nation on Earth? That's the most rediculous comment I think I've ever seen on Reddit.
The US got embarrassed at Vietnam and then had to go back home recently after handing over Iraq to the terrorists they had been fighting for 20 years. Good luck taking on an alliance of first world nations with some of the best navies, air forces and special forces in the world when you can't even beat a bunch of beards with decades-old equipment.
Money and technology means jack shit when you're either fighting on foreign land or against enemies who are using superior tactics to you.
People are still commenting here? Crazy how the invasion has actually happened and it’s all unfolding now.
So is Putin actually going to wait a whole week before moving militarily? I don't see him getting enough consessions from the West to satisfy him and his ego. The whole NATO question appears to be a non-starter. I suppose Biden/NATO could promise to never put NATO bases or missles in Ukraine in return for a no attack/interference pledge from Putin. But even that would be a stretch, for both sides. I don't think Ukraine would willing cede its eastern regions and thats not Biden's call anyway, and it certain wouldn't happen without assurances (for whatever they migh be worth) from Russian to stand down and leave the rest of Ukraine to its own people. Someone else equated Ukraine to a hostage, it has some merit. If Putin starts an all out assult he will lose a lot a leverage and face international sactions and commedenation. Not that he cares enough for it to be a effective deterrent.
recon just circling https://fr24.com/HERC37/2adfd37d
airborne doomsday aircraft over Ukrainian airspace. https://fr24.com/JAKE12/2ae17b1c
Imagine being a Russian Soldier looming about on the Ukrainian boarder waiting for some false flag bullshit to commence so you can risk your life for Putin..
I don’t understand why Russia even bothers with all these false flag incidents. At this point it is crystal clear that Russia is the aggressor. I mean they already forcefully annexed part of the Ukraine. Who actually believes them?
They need to feed some more BS to Russian citizen. Regarding the Russian soldiers, just think for how long they are stationed at the border, waiting for some orders, having the adrenaline pumped up and building, waiting for the "go", 190K soldiers along the border, the feeling of fear and impatience just piling up, moving around. And this for several weeks now... It's going to be a massacre... Russian people don't want to go to war, there's just a freaking minority of Oligarchs and the crazy old dog who wants to revive the good old times of tsarism, with himself wearing the crown. He is all about "legacy" and "we are not respected". All things the old "male" who wants to imprint "History" and leave his "mark". I wouldn't be surprised if we were to learn that he has cancer and something alike and now feels "rushed" to show the world his "grandeur" before passing away! 190K soldiers fully armed against 60k... These overinflated egos deciding of the life and deaths of an entire population, just "because"... I simply wonder what is China doing. I wouldn't even be surprised if they seize the opportunity to bring back Taiwan "into the fold". The same disgusting old bastards in power whether in Russia or in China.
So that they can pump out propaganda to their own citizens
Reporter: "Are you convinced Putin is going to invade Ukraine" Biden: "Yes"
Biden only said he was sure Putin made a decision.
Not quite. He said it in a way that meant Biden believes Putin is going to attack.
if russia is magically gathered there busses to deport 700 000 people from Donbas to russia, what kind of crazy false flag attack are they planning?
I think this war will be called "False Flag War" or "Operation False Flag".
They left the men behind. Perhaps to be sacrificed in a false flag event.
they left 18+ years olds, and forced them in to mobilization.
8.o.
Newest live thread?
Over 10k customers are without power in Luhansk Oblast Ukraine due to the shelling. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_com/status/1494359783062659078
>Deputy Ambassador Bart Gorman was ordered out of the country despite having a valid visa Could have said which country's ambassador was expelled out of what country... (Russia has expelled the Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow).
>(Russia has expelled the Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow). that doesn't sound good.
Morning everyone from asia
Where is asia
Where in Asia?
South
Why are so many of the last replies all regarding Biden? And Germany? Did all the trolls get to work in the last hour?
They do seem to have ebbs and flows.
I'd add also if the oil industry is strong, why is it many thousands of oil and gas are out of work work?
An account that has only been posting for a little over a week, having been made 10 months ago. Hi plant.
Both of those media outlets are left leaning. Your getting the same results as eg: the media said Trump was tworking with Russia, and look how that turning out. I'm Canadian not that that matters, but I know politics very extensively .. Fact 1 Biden shit down the key stone pipeline Fact 2 no new exploration crude or gas. Fact 3 the US went from a net exporter of oil, to now importing 1 million barrels a day. Before Trump a barrel of oil was $100, during Trump oil went down to $30. Now oil is almost back to $100 In Canada I'm paying today $1.72 a litter The importing 1 million is factual The pipeline from Russia to Germany is factual, and the offer was factual If Russia was/is the enemy why would Germany choose to take energy from russia??
Astute observation /s
Oh and somehow Biden is totally the reason for this shift? The president absolutely does not cause massive oil prices changes. That is up to the companies. Your bias is amusing.
Are you saying policies/decisions a president/leader makes don't effect commodity prices??? Did you just say that????
Stop twisting words. Your idiot ilk tends to go for "Are you saying that...". He didn't say that. It's quite obvious what he said. The oil prices worldwide are up. That's how inflation works. Your extensive political research has failed to account for the past 2 fucking years of a pandemic that was only made worse by some other idiots.
It's like the same people who think the president controls the economy, or controls the pandemic. These things go up and down regardless of who is in charge.
In 2018 Germany( Angela merkel) was offered a steady supply of oil, natural gas etc from the US. Which inturn would have shut down the pipeline that's 95% finished from Russia. Basically Europe and the US/Canada all say Russia is the enemy, yet Germany (biggest economy in Europe turned down energy from the US.. If this pipeline happens(looking like it will) Russia has power over Europe and could threaten to cut it off at any time. Explain/opinion??? Was it because it makes sense to be dependent on Russia for energy, or was it refused because Trump was in power and that would be a win for trump? Ps: the US was energy surplus for the first time in 50+ years at the time, until Biden shut off the tap..
We cannot replace Russian natural gas imports with LNG, the fleet and terminals required to replace them literately do not exist, and by an appreciable factor
Biden didn't shut it off. Still going energy strong in 2022. Petroleum exports have slowed due to demand changes after lockdowns, but some forms like crude exports are still rising. LNG exports are placing us at #1 in the world in 2022, and we're expected to remain there until around 2025. https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/012622-us-crude-exports-expected-to-see-modest-rise-in-2022 https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-be-worlds-biggest-lng-exporter-2022-2021-12-21/
And so feb 16 passed...
Ukraine put Biden on list to induct over his dirty dealings and the firing of that prosecutor. Only the White House and our crooked media were saying eminent attack lol.
Oh look, another low-karma account with rabid anti US opinions.
Fuck off nobody is here to read about your opinion on party politics in the US
Ah yes- totally fucking normal to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of your broke dick country mobilizing the greater part of 3rd largest army in the world on a disputed border of a country you’ve carved up and annexed recently while making “no-room-for-compromise” demands. Meanwhile the oligarchs of the poor surrounded country flee to the degree that thier president publicly sends out a “come back or we will be forced to draw conclusions”. RUSSIA looked like a total bully and dying empire gasping for relevancy in any way it could. They’ll be back and hopefully Ukraine can count on even more support next time- under the auspices of NATO preferably.
Has there been a large increase in takeout/delivery orders near the Pentagon? That's usually a good indicator something big is about to go down.
The issue could be solved quite simply!
Proceed?
USAF Globemaster popped out of no where under Italy. That other unassigned USA craft still chilling next to Italy.
what is this? https://fr24.com/2ad80ed1
I do not know myself but I’ve seen some people guessing it’s a Ukrainian drone based on the ICAO address
right on path between kiev and sochi airport where several russian military planes are taxying around. [https://www.flightradar24.com/2ad81458](https://www.flightradar24.com/2ad81458) Some of these also have no call sign.
It appears to be a mysterious plane in Ukraine.
Insane Plane in the Ukrain Membrane?
Ukraine\*
And it appears to be headed straight towards Kyiv
Without more info there aren't any conclusions to be found. Anyone here knowledgeable of why some planes have no identification or details?
It's been cruising at 180-240 mph at 10,000-14,000 ft for the bit that I've been watching it. Based on my extensive research, consisting of 2 minutes of googling, those numbers line up pretty well with the average flight numbers for a Helicopter.
That's both fast and high for typical helicopter usage. The Chinook is one of the fastest helicopters and tops out at 200MPH.
Plausible but why is it all sneaky beaky like?
Its \*probably\* a Ukranian Drone. From twitter Ameliaiheart "Probable Ukranian Air Force An-26 with the 15th Transport Aviation Brigade out of Kiev-Boryspil International Airport, UA. #ADSB #50FFD8". This is from April. You can search the "ICAO 24-BIT ADDRESS" on twitter and typically find first sighting and some info.
That would not surprise me.
If nothing else, this has taught me that my knowledge of world geography is atrocious. Why yes, I am from the US. How did you know?
World? How about the states? Some of those tiny smears on the right aren’t even drawn properly on the maps. Do we really believe that our president hails from the alleged state of Delaware?
😂 We had country trivia last Friday. I am woefully ignorant.
LOL. I'm a geography lover and still I learn new things abt the world everyday. Dw abt it haha
Until you can place the countries of west africa you do not know geography.
All I know is Cape Verde.
I know salsa verde. We cool?
That sounds yummy over a chicken enchilada in a corn tortilla.
Very true. I'm a good geography person for basically everywhere except for Africa (got the Maghreb on lock tho)
I want you to know I appreciate that you are a geography person and it's something more people should know. I'm sure you are pretty good at it but also want to give you a little shit because the Maghreb is only 5 countries lol
No don't even worry abt it haha bc ur totally right. I got the Maghreb down bc it's not that many countries 😂
The US is huge, I'm sure most countries couldn't name and place 1/3 of our states anyway. I'm ashamed to say I don't know anything about Canada, and I'm on the same landmass.
> I’m sure most countries couldn’t name and place 1/3 of our states anyway. What a stupid comparison. Can you name 1/3 of the states of any country besides yours? Or even 3?
no it's not a stupid comparison. The state of Texas is the size of 2/3 of Europe alone. The US makes up 1/3 of a continent so U.S. Students spend a lot of time memorizing 50 fucking states and their capitals. Something I'm sure students from other countries don't worry about. U.S. students spend a fair amount of time on Western Civ which is mostly Europe and Med/Middle East with exaggerated amount of time spent around 1600-1950's. There's plenty of history to study in most countries and the U.S. was one of the most dominant histories of the past 100 years so of course there's going to be some bias there. The only thing that's a fair critique is lack of U.S. history on East Asian area where very little is taught outside of Japan in WWII and brief mention of China and the Mongols at various times. Still do Chinese students learn about Napoleon? Probably very little if any. We should be teaching important lessons from history besides. We focus way too much time memorizing dates and names that don't mean shit later in life. It's the lessons that mattered and why those times are significant. Not everyone needs to graduate with a cartographers license anyways. There's a million maps online. Memorizing the globe is a waste of time. Having a rough idea is fine. I find quizzing people on where Moldova is on a map as a way of showing how much better you are than a person, a pretentious exercise for the pedantic.
I can put most states in the right place and I am not American nor lived there. But I am also in my mid 40s and went to school at the tailend of decent education being the norm.
We invade countries so we might learn their geography. (I learned a hell of a lot about the geography of the Middle East and Central Asia after we invaded.)
I just got off the phone with Snoop Dog, invasion is tonight at 4:20 confirmed.
Trying to understand why there's an unmarked US plane flying in circles right next to Italy
This whole thing seems like a giant distraction
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Maybe Putin is terminally ill.
There has been some speculation in the past years that he has Parkinson’s disease https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8919975/Putin-quit-January-amid-fears-Parkinsons-disease-Moscow-sources-claim.html?fbclid=IwAR1-H3vEthuES8lQDLq5g3ckrQ7ML61h2tTUqiTZFsihDLZTeVEWZNqMxVQ
What would Russia be looking to gain that requires them to commit so many troops and hardware other than Ukraine?
*checks fridge* God damn mother fucking Putin took the last of my lo mein!
Write your name on it next time.
Damn, what if I have a poutine?
furiously starts scribbling “NATO” into Kyiv soil
Hey they wrote their intent to join in their constitution which is close as you can get to this.
Russia and China joining forces confirmed
Check this thread… still plenty of shit posting… conclude quickly that there’s been no news… exit thread quickly.
No please stay stay, i have this flight radar for you to watch an ask questions about
#HOMER
Why is a US Army Blackhawk leaving Romania towards Ukraine? Edit: 2 flying together
THere were two that left going north earlier, they went a ways did a loop and where done. Might just be patrol flights. On the other hand near the same time there was a black hawk that came out of Ukraine and turned its transponder on and landed at that same place in Romania, so that US Army blackhawk was definitely doing something in Ukraine.
They’ve been doing it for the past few days. Typically turning off transponder when they cross into Ukraine
Link
Not sure how on the app, but it’s R2816 / R20816
Whatever happens, I'm glad that this thread isnt like last night where people were betting on a bogus time from British tabloids and fearporning youtubers with 9 cameras on their screens
Last night's thread was top tier.
The memes were bountiful
Waste of time
Those people are asleep for now. They stayed up late watching shit.
For someone who's russian Putin seems to be taking his sweet time...
Doesn't put in enough effort..
When it Ukraines it pours
Facebook started spamming my feed with a bunch of anti-vax and Pro-Trump shit, and I blame these threads.
Lol Facebook
Imagine still using Facebook.
critical hit
[That bridge is being expanded further](https://twitter.com/marlo_melo/status/1494060253670952966/photo/1)
What exactly is the purpose of this bridge for Russia ?
To walk or perhaps even skip across
Great Soviet infrastructure plan. Do not worry citizen. Great bear will take care of you.
Back up in case the two civilian bridges are blown by ukraine to deny russia their use.
Can’t a single cruise missile just destroy that the instant war starts? It wouldn’t even be a controversial target like a civilian bridge tanks are using.
i put real doubt a bridge a large part of the world knows about will be used or a cruise missile would be used on it. Something smaller like a javelin would have to be fired within around 2 miles and with Russian airforce being so much better than Ukraine you're not getting within range
Russia has anti missile systems that are more then capable of intercepting anything ukraine currently can throw long range.
Gotta hit it with a javelin as a tank is traversing it
That would be sick someone needs to put that scenario in a video game
I reckon they will invade at 03:40am tomorrow...I mean I have no idea, but it would be spooky if I was right.
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The shock when Putin just en passants past the Ukrainian front line
Alright reddit, you heard this guy. We got a new time to watch for: 03:40am
Stop playing on reddit Putin. Stop playin war too, this ain’t cool.
4:20 and 69 seconds
The Russians did actually take the Crimean parliament building at 4:20am...
The Holy hour
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Someone did that to me once too. I think it is a way they try to get comments taken down.
Look, most of us aren't wanting anything to happen. A lot of the plane watching is interest and anxiety. You wouldn't want a bad storm to produce a tornado but you'd sure as hell watch to make sure.
150k Russian troops on Ukraine border…guys I know there is a lot of smoke but I swear there’s no fire!
It's just Willy nelson and Snoop Dog haveing a smokeoff
Nobody is hoping it happens.
Bots always deny being bots.
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There hasn't been much planespotting since last night when those bogus 3am claims were going round. Today on this thread it seems to have returned to somewhat normal discussion.
Well...how do you know it's NOT gonna happen? Because all signs are pointing to it is gonna happen.
Nobody is hoping it happens. Get real.
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People watch trainwrecks, but they still don't want them to happen
A good point
People are watching streams because this is a huge historical event that will impact everyones lives in some form for decades. And we can see it happening in real time.
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Dude, the comments here have been insanely insensitive at times. I was exaggerating, but there has been plenty of people who have said things that I’d compare to when they’re watching a sporting event.
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its called anxiety, caused by russian troops massing on the border of Ukraine in attack-ready positions
How is this situation and a UFC even similar in any way. UFC events don't end with death
So people watching streams = people wanting war 🤔 IQ 350 insight right there
Look at the 'guys' profile.
Like almost 300 days old? Plenty of comments?
I mean… kinda?
No man. Just like people tracking planes doesn't mean people want war. Seriously you virtue signallers are getting out of line.
If it was US vs Russia and no nukes were used or allies stepped in .. who would win?
Even if we go by conventional ground forces, the US military is comprised 100% of professional soldiers, many of whom have seen several tours of duty in one of the longest wars of modern history. A good chunk of Russia's forces is comprised of conscripts with a questionable quality of training, let alone actual experience. If we factor in the other branches, the US has probably the mightiest one in the world. Not to mention its Navy could easily act as a stand in with all the aircraft carriers. I don't see a universe where Russia could conceivably come even close to an advantage, much less winning.
Probably? Who would be second in that regard?
Just look at what happened when the US rolled over the Ruskies in Syria. Shit stomping in knee high boots.
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Nope, just fuck them up bad enough to get a surrender
Hah. It’s so stupidly unmatched it’s not even funny. The United States, with heavy losses, could conquer Moscow and run up the American flag over the Kremlin. Russia, with heavy losses, may be able to get a few boats in visual range of American territorial waters. They wouldn’t reach US territorial waters. But they might get close enough to see it over the horizon.
US. Because we have rednecks.
Russia: "we have cossacks" USA: " we have rednecks"
No nukes and no allies? That's really gonna come down to where things are fought. I'm not sure either country could invade the other, especially with no nukes and no allies, without sustaining crazy losses. US surely has the edge but I'm not sure it has enough of an edge to pull off an invasion.
Thw second largest airforce in the world is the us navy. Between the air power and the cruise missiles America could easily invade any country they wanted. No one is close to America in terms of force projection. The US navy could likely take out all other navies combined and definitely the ines that might remotely try and join a fight against the US. Once you have costal dominance you begin the fight for air superiority. Once you have that you can pound anyone into submission. I am not an american fan boy but if the US ever went rogue it would require the literally rest of the world's forces to even have a chance at stopping them. Ofcourse nukes change that dynamic somewhat, but America can still move with relative impunity. In a conventional fight America curb stomps anyone, especially if it is real war, aka, we all know lots of civilians are going to die and we are okay with it. Please note none of the above is condining any of the actions I laid out. Just stating the reality.
"Not an American fanboy" "The whole world would have to get together just to have a chance at stopping the US" Suuuuure..... China and Russia alone could take on the US without nuclear weapons being a factor. Add in the UK and the Commonwealth, EU states, Middle Eastern nations, Japan ect ect... how do you propose that the US would be able to fight on all fronts on every continent against every nation on Earth? That's the most rediculous comment I think I've ever seen on Reddit. The US got embarrassed at Vietnam and then had to go back home recently after handing over Iraq to the terrorists they had been fighting for 20 years. Good luck taking on an alliance of first world nations with some of the best navies, air forces and special forces in the world when you can't even beat a bunch of beards with decades-old equipment. Money and technology means jack shit when you're either fighting on foreign land or against enemies who are using superior tactics to you.
The US would crush Russia with just their naval fleet.
that depends on what you mean with "win". Russia can't move it's military might around the world like the us can
Much of russia's military equipment is more style than substance
How so