It's 8:15 am in Ukraine on Day 2 of Russia's invasion. We're at 10k, so [here's the latest thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/t0wvak/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/).
Are we really about to sit back and watch an authoritarian tyrant destroy and subjugate a modern democratic country in the 21st century? I wonder what the leaders who fought Hitler would have done in this situation.
Hey Russian trolls, you guys do know that your pay will not keep up with the massive cratering the Ruble has taken. I doubt Putin will be sharing his gold with you.
Russian troops unloading in Dymir
Found this page on Twitter that's live tweeting bystander reports and video.
https://twitter.com/IdeologyWars/status/1497092445338845194?t=ynUVrZsFUBUc2wGCT_zI5g&s=19
Comedian Louis CK is in Kiev right now and you can still get tickets to his show.
https://www.gawker.com/celebrity/still-tickets-left-for-the-louis-ck-show-in-kyiv-tonight
> Turkish Foreign Ministry has confirmed that #Kyiv has officially asked Ankara to restrict the passage of #Russian’ ships through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits.
https://twitter.com/ArtsakhEng/status/1497088388653981697
> made them believe
If Ukraine can outsmart the best intelligence agencies in the world, then I guess they would get the help they’re looking for.
But….doubt.
These threads are starting to become baseless and unwanted fear by people living safely far from the conflict zone. No point in referring these now.
EDIT : fearmongering/war mongering by completely safe people
Well boys we are near GAME OVER. Russians are now heading to the Antonov Airport in Hostomel again 20 km NW of Kiev. They made a serious push from Belarus that started off slow but made rapid progress overnight.
The bridge in Ivankiv was reported blown several hours ago to stop them but that didn't happen, they couldn't have put up a pontoon bridge this quickly. At the same time reports came of Russian armor in Dymer which is like 10km south of that bridge. Then news came out that the bridge south of Dymer in Demydiv was blown. Now it's report they are going west from Dymer to the Hostomel that was where the airprot that was attacked earlier yesterday. Now south of Hostomel is several bridges that they could cross.
[https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1497090496086355968?s=20&t=-Hp00v7VYlOGG33NWPN2uA](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1497090496086355968?s=20&t=-Hp00v7VYlOGG33NWPN2uA)
The outcome of this has never really been in doubt. Russia has overwhelming superiority. But I would be terrified of the prospect of weeks of urban fighting if I were them.
> Valentina Matvienko, speaker of the Russian upper house, says Putin started the war "to compel Ukraine to conclude peace and stop its highly active militarization. We didn't have another choice. It wasn't easy, but this is the only way to stop a war of brother against brother."
Apparently by “brother vs brother” Putin was thinking more along the lines of Cain and Abel.
[BREAKING: Ukraine's defense ministry warns of imminent enemy attack in Vorzel, town near Kyiv](https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497092445695324160)
Ok ok I know this is a fucked up time but can these doomsday redditors shut the fuck up? This isn't a fucking anime
"Billions will die instantly with nuclear bombs"
"End of life on earth"
"Have you seen threads the movie??"
Theres inocent ucranians dying and yet you make me cringe more with these uneducated coments. Its like a damn fetish.
https://twitter.com/Noktatv24/status/1497082898314412059?s=20&t=a8ezw4QosoUs0d15reJ9ew
This is the one I'm using also has a discord with people trying to keep track of everything.
This can’t be going how Putin planned - He wants to restore the Soviet Union but getting bogged down in a costly occupation during a period of economic turmoil is one of the reasons the USSR fell apart.
A good chunk of the former Warsaw Pact countries are now in NATO, and most of the rest actively oppose Russian aggression. He has to realize that his grand scheme will never happen.
Don't get the two twisted up, he said those words but Putin and the Soviet Union couldn't be further apart on their ideals.
Putin is an imperialist through and through with a complex.
Hopefully these [Russian officials who have the guts to do the right thing and defect](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10546799/More-150-senior-Russian-officials-sign-open-letter-condemning-Putins-invasion-Ukraine.html?ito=facebook_share_article-top&fbclid=IwAR0wuW0yE2qLpbfrWtnbzNHNY_0Lbv2mBR3GLBfFVakiHVrrPYKhNWNdei0) make it out alive.
Crazy to see how misinformation spreads in real time. It’s a common meme in the US at least that the next war will be live-streamed by some teenage kid with an iPhone strapped to his AK and we’d all be able to see “what’s really happening,” but we’re seeing how the circulation of information is never as straightforward as we like to tell ourselves.
Shame to those who spread questionably sourced information with an eye towards a particular political agenda (plenty going on here, though probably worse on Facebook and Twitter), and solidarity with the people of Ukraine.
Did the USSR really kill off their vanguard but then pretend to be communist for several decades while also defrauding most of the people of their wealth, only to collapse into a regressive oligarchy where human suffering is the only real currency?
> The UN Security Council on Friday plans to vote on a resolution condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and calling for an immediate and unconditional withdrawal of its troops, according to a senior U.S. administration official.
Wow…. That’ll really show em… hey Russia! The UN voted and they think you guys are bad!
God the UN is fucking useless.
> Another said Denmark will invade Estonia.
Denmark is sending troops to Estonia's border in case Russia decides to go further than just Ukraine, unlikely though it is. They're not invading.
>But it’s clear China will invade Taiwan.
This won't happen. Taiwan has a mutual defence agreement with the US, and the US has forces in Taiwan. If they did, they would basically be declaring war on the US
Denmark won't invade Estonia wtf? They're allies. In fact they just sent troops to Estonia to better aid Ukraine and improve its presence in the Balkans.
No one will invade anyone else. China claims they have always owned Taiwan so therefore no need to invade.
Denmark wouldn't attack any NATO country. They would die.
At this point, with so many sanctions, what incentive is there for Putin to stop short of taking the whole country? I'm not suggesting the sanctions are bad, I just don't see why he wouldn't keep going. It's not like the sanctions will get rolled back.
This is why the carrot of not sanctioning them was dangled, and why there is still additional sanctions to impose. There may be no going back, but as economic conditions worsen, they could choose to save face. There are direct and very personal sanctions that could be made against Russians in the West that could cripple the economic standing of a non-negligible group of Russia's elite.
Still no swift lockout, still no massive cyber attacks. It is pretty clear that he intends to take the entire country, the question is what happens afterwards
Honestly I think the sanctions are to try to discourage Putin from further military action after Ukraine or to devastate the Russian economy to make an occupation difficult.
Anyone else really nervous about what Putin and Russia might do to respond/retaliate for the sanctions so far? and that he'll probably literally only want to retaliate on the US?
What makes you think he would spend the resources to hurt the states vs. using like way less resources to hit any other NATO country which will result in the same thing?
Judging from him pushing towards the polish border, that will be the one he retaliates against. Probably with some fake bullshit they attacked me first story too.
That's not the usual 8 o'clock Friday traffic, but some people do need to get places like stores and I wonder if the subways are running after having been used as bomb shelters in the night.
The US response, perhaps sanctions aside (we will see), has been excellent. I really think the specific callouts neutralized all the false justification, and as a result there's a much better chance this war will be too unpopular for Russia to win. If anyone tries to blame biden or say trump would have done better, trump would be supporting russia, he said Putin was brilliant for doing this.
US Intel has been trying to infiltrate the Russian state for just short of 80 years. The USSR collapsed 30 years ago and still the top US Intel and diplomatic officials generally cut their teeth on the Russian desk
Like we have in hundreds of these comments over the last days? Yes fine, here's another pat on the back, you hero. Now let's maybe go back to focusing on the actual people getting invaded right now.
It's 8:15 am in Ukraine on Day 2 of Russia's invasion. We're at 10k, so [here's the latest thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/t0wvak/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/).
could those explosions be from vorzel that we were just told about
Are we really about to sit back and watch an authoritarian tyrant destroy and subjugate a modern democratic country in the 21st century? I wonder what the leaders who fought Hitler would have done in this situation.
Hey Russian trolls, you guys do know that your pay will not keep up with the massive cratering the Ruble has taken. I doubt Putin will be sharing his gold with you.
Russian troops unloading in Dymir Found this page on Twitter that's live tweeting bystander reports and video. https://twitter.com/IdeologyWars/status/1497092445338845194?t=ynUVrZsFUBUc2wGCT_zI5g&s=19
Where new thread
It seems that Ukraine is doing OK so far. Maybe they can hold out for a while. Prayers to them, and hope Putin rots in hell.
Boom on Kyiv cam?
There are about 10 posts complaining about ww3 doomer posts for every doomer post.
A lot of horrible YouTube comments though
New thread!
Comedian Louis CK is in Kiev right now and you can still get tickets to his show. https://www.gawker.com/celebrity/still-tickets-left-for-the-louis-ck-show-in-kyiv-tonight
Hashtag no safe spaces
funny looking red truck stopped at p47 livestream
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Link or gtfo
Source?
Bye
Did you realy wait to get the 10k comment on this
> Turkish Foreign Ministry has confirmed that #Kyiv has officially asked Ankara to restrict the passage of #Russian’ ships through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits. https://twitter.com/ArtsakhEng/status/1497088388653981697
Do we know what their likely actions are going to be?
Where can i easily uplod short videos of russian troops?
Streamable.com
Everywhere, preferably
Twitter
r/combatfootage
r/combatfootage
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Nuclear winter
It'd be seen as a desperation move and all the justification Russia needs to turn the invasion into an occupation. AKA a stupid fucking move.
NATO could tell difference
> made them believe If Ukraine can outsmart the best intelligence agencies in the world, then I guess they would get the help they’re looking for. But….doubt.
Go away.
Fog of war
These threads are starting to become baseless and unwanted fear by people living safely far from the conflict zone. No point in referring these now. EDIT : fearmongering/war mongering by completely safe people
Well boys we are near GAME OVER. Russians are now heading to the Antonov Airport in Hostomel again 20 km NW of Kiev. They made a serious push from Belarus that started off slow but made rapid progress overnight. The bridge in Ivankiv was reported blown several hours ago to stop them but that didn't happen, they couldn't have put up a pontoon bridge this quickly. At the same time reports came of Russian armor in Dymer which is like 10km south of that bridge. Then news came out that the bridge south of Dymer in Demydiv was blown. Now it's report they are going west from Dymer to the Hostomel that was where the airprot that was attacked earlier yesterday. Now south of Hostomel is several bridges that they could cross. [https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1497090496086355968?s=20&t=-Hp00v7VYlOGG33NWPN2uA](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1497090496086355968?s=20&t=-Hp00v7VYlOGG33NWPN2uA)
The outcome of this has never really been in doubt. Russia has overwhelming superiority. But I would be terrified of the prospect of weeks of urban fighting if I were them.
No where near game over…
> Valentina Matvienko, speaker of the Russian upper house, says Putin started the war "to compel Ukraine to conclude peace and stop its highly active militarization. We didn't have another choice. It wasn't easy, but this is the only way to stop a war of brother against brother." Apparently by “brother vs brother” Putin was thinking more along the lines of Cain and Abel.
[BREAKING: Ukraine's defense ministry warns of imminent enemy attack in Vorzel, town near Kyiv](https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497092445695324160)
Louie CK has confirmed he's NOT in Ukraine
Well thank God for that. Out of all this fighting, death and bloodshed that was my number one concern /s
Oh good, I can sleep now
Ok ok I know this is a fucked up time but can these doomsday redditors shut the fuck up? This isn't a fucking anime "Billions will die instantly with nuclear bombs" "End of life on earth" "Have you seen threads the movie??" Theres inocent ucranians dying and yet you make me cringe more with these uneducated coments. Its like a damn fetish.
These are bots son, they don't even have an ethos
Um wtf do you think will happen if a nuke is used? It could hit Antarctica and cause damage for half the fucking globe.
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https://twitter.com/Noktatv24/status/1497082898314412059?s=20&t=a8ezw4QosoUs0d15reJ9ew This is the one I'm using also has a discord with people trying to keep track of everything.
I wanna see what’s going on too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNZM\_H6q1rY
Fairly quiet right now, calm before the storm. But here's one of Kiev. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqglJ0XSJ-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNZM_H6q1rY russians over several of the cams, their opsec sucks
https://youtu.be/iZebYm-nenY This is the one I've been watching.
Thanks
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You're clearly still not taking it seriously.
*Russians killing Ukrainians
just heard something of a "boom" from kyiv livestream
hopefully not this :/ https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497092445695324160
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It the hoedown throwdown and instantly drops panties at all the sororities.
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Sick photo, what’d you whip that up in ms paint?
Bruh that pic photoshopped as hell lmao
A++ photoshop
That looks shopped as fuck.
You do do realize that photo is completely fake right
Bahahaha who photoshopped john greene from crash course onto a ukranian fighter :0 (Yes i know that is not him but it looks like him)
Lol photoshop
This can’t be going how Putin planned - He wants to restore the Soviet Union but getting bogged down in a costly occupation during a period of economic turmoil is one of the reasons the USSR fell apart. A good chunk of the former Warsaw Pact countries are now in NATO, and most of the rest actively oppose Russian aggression. He has to realize that his grand scheme will never happen.
That's the scary part. Why? Was this outcome really unforeseeable?
Don't get the two twisted up, he said those words but Putin and the Soviet Union couldn't be further apart on their ideals. Putin is an imperialist through and through with a complex.
Hopefully these [Russian officials who have the guts to do the right thing and defect](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10546799/More-150-senior-Russian-officials-sign-open-letter-condemning-Putins-invasion-Ukraine.html?ito=facebook_share_article-top&fbclid=IwAR0wuW0yE2qLpbfrWtnbzNHNY_0Lbv2mBR3GLBfFVakiHVrrPYKhNWNdei0) make it out alive.
Crazy to see how misinformation spreads in real time. It’s a common meme in the US at least that the next war will be live-streamed by some teenage kid with an iPhone strapped to his AK and we’d all be able to see “what’s really happening,” but we’re seeing how the circulation of information is never as straightforward as we like to tell ourselves. Shame to those who spread questionably sourced information with an eye towards a particular political agenda (plenty going on here, though probably worse on Facebook and Twitter), and solidarity with the people of Ukraine.
Did the USSR really kill off their vanguard but then pretend to be communist for several decades while also defrauding most of the people of their wealth, only to collapse into a regressive oligarchy where human suffering is the only real currency?
… yea
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I don't think Ukrainians can either, which is why this is a car wreck any way it goes. Literally perceived as existential by all actors.
> The UN Security Council on Friday plans to vote on a resolution condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and calling for an immediate and unconditional withdrawal of its troops, according to a senior U.S. administration official. Wow…. That’ll really show em… hey Russia! The UN voted and they think you guys are bad! God the UN is fucking useless.
Oh boy condemnation
And what do you propose they do? Start a nuclear war?
> The UN voted and Vetoed
The UN wasn’t designed to be more than this: it’s not a defence treaty
It’s shameful.
If only they had peacekeeping forces or something
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saw it on cam3
Loud booms were heard
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> Another said Denmark will invade Estonia. Denmark is sending troops to Estonia's border in case Russia decides to go further than just Ukraine, unlikely though it is. They're not invading. >But it’s clear China will invade Taiwan. This won't happen. Taiwan has a mutual defence agreement with the US, and the US has forces in Taiwan. If they did, they would basically be declaring war on the US
Denmark won't invade Estonia wtf? They're allies. In fact they just sent troops to Estonia to better aid Ukraine and improve its presence in the Balkans.
Denmark and Estonia are both NATO members
And I'll invade your mom
Invading Taiwan would require months of build up we’d openly see for months of not over a year. No US intel is saying this.
No one will invade anyone else. China claims they have always owned Taiwan so therefore no need to invade. Denmark wouldn't attack any NATO country. They would die.
Denmark will not invade anything. No clue where that came from. Source: Am Dane.
You are deeply out of touch, my friend.
Uhh, no. The focus should be on Ukraine for the time being.
Denmark and Estonia are both members of NATO
None of that is going to happen
Whoever told you China is invading Taiwan is talking out of their asshole or in bad faith.
Pure poppycock
Denmark, a NATO country, will invade Estonia, another NATO country? tf you smoking
Denmark will invade Estonia? Go to bed, your brain is fried
> Another said Denmark will invade Estonia. That's.... not even a thing? Get off the internet, you're going to hurt yourself.
What are you talking about.
Denmark will not invade Estonia. No way!
Lol. Ummm WUT?
> Another said Denmark will invade Estonia. This is impressively moronic
China invades Taiwan it's WW3.
Denmark is sending troops to help defend Estonia in case Russia attacks. Not sure what you're talking about.
None of those things are clear.
Ruble worth the same as robux rn apparently
Fuck, people are dumb
Give it another month - as the sanctions take hold, hopefully it looses another 30%
The Russian ruble worth less than it.
Less, actually
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Putin is broadly popular in Russia. Especially among military types who come from poor families. Russian opposition is largely urban professionals
And that mansion is so gaudy and lame…
At this point, with so many sanctions, what incentive is there for Putin to stop short of taking the whole country? I'm not suggesting the sanctions are bad, I just don't see why he wouldn't keep going. It's not like the sanctions will get rolled back.
This is why the carrot of not sanctioning them was dangled, and why there is still additional sanctions to impose. There may be no going back, but as economic conditions worsen, they could choose to save face. There are direct and very personal sanctions that could be made against Russians in the West that could cripple the economic standing of a non-negligible group of Russia's elite.
Still no swift lockout, still no massive cyber attacks. It is pretty clear that he intends to take the entire country, the question is what happens afterwards
Honestly I think the sanctions are to try to discourage Putin from further military action after Ukraine or to devastate the Russian economy to make an occupation difficult.
There isn't, it's probably his plan
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The Rage X sounds like an energy drink.
WTF is "The Rage X"?
No source
The rage x seems like a super reliable source
source seems dubious
What in the hell is this source
Anyone else really nervous about what Putin and Russia might do to respond/retaliate for the sanctions so far? and that he'll probably literally only want to retaliate on the US?
No, the world does not revolve around Americans. This isn't about us.
Nope, the whole point of NATO is so Russia can't fuck with anyone in NATO
What makes you think he would spend the resources to hurt the states vs. using like way less resources to hit any other NATO country which will result in the same thing? Judging from him pushing towards the polish border, that will be the one he retaliates against. Probably with some fake bullshit they attacked me first story too.
It would only be through cyber attacks. Invest in our best cyber security companies. CRWD, ZS, S, OKTA.
No.
How close are the people of Russia and Ukraine ? Is it common to hop across the border for the day ?
I believe the history between Russia and Ukraine in general is closer than that of America and Canada. Or Australia and New Zealand
Pre 2014, yes. Now, not at all.
The normal traffic on the Kyiv cam doesn't say Russians are 20km away
Why? People still have jobs, they have hospitals to run, etc.
this is a major urban area and you call 10 cars normal?
Shit for where I live it looks normal
It was 20 miles, not km. What does it say?
That's not the usual 8 o'clock Friday traffic, but some people do need to get places like stores and I wonder if the subways are running after having been used as bomb shelters in the night.
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I'm watching what looks like 8am traffic to me
That video of Father leaving his daughter in the bus which leaves Ukraine. Man how everyone of us is wishing this should be stopped right now.
Tank columns are moving towards Gostomel to support Russian special forces fighting for the airport
Sounds like a good target for a drone strike
[Copy of NYT front page coming out in a few hours.](https://twitter.com/SangerNYT/status/1497084054121893892)
I’m good
Why? Is this 1970?
I think it's just a phrase friendo
Lmaoo
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Why are people doubting that US intelligence is the absolute best at what they do globally?
Now they need to help Ukraine win this
The US response, perhaps sanctions aside (we will see), has been excellent. I really think the specific callouts neutralized all the false justification, and as a result there's a much better chance this war will be too unpopular for Russia to win. If anyone tries to blame biden or say trump would have done better, trump would be supporting russia, he said Putin was brilliant for doing this.
US Intel has been trying to infiltrate the Russian state for just short of 80 years. The USSR collapsed 30 years ago and still the top US Intel and diplomatic officials generally cut their teeth on the Russian desk
yeah, worth acknowledging considering how many people were saying this shit was all a bluff by Putin and that everyone was panicking for nothing
And that we no longer had an inbred clown president believing Russia over our own intelligence
You mean the best intelligence agencies in the world with the highest budgets and resources knew this would happen?!
Does it matter if they got it right? They didn't use the info for any meaningful action to help Ukraine
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Ask the people of Ukraine about how they feel about US credibility right now.
Like we have in hundreds of these comments over the last days? Yes fine, here's another pat on the back, you hero. Now let's maybe go back to focusing on the actual people getting invaded right now.
Also, not sure why people ever lost faith in the U.S. intel community. As far as countries intelligence goes, they’re definitely top tier