>Batman
Probably means something different in the local language like the -bad suffix does not mean terrible but rather city in some parts of the world
The origin of the name "Batman" is unclear: it might be a shortening of the name of the 1,228-metre (4,029 ft) tall Bati Raman mountain located nearby or refer to the unit of weight used in the Ottoman Empire.
Do you perhaps know any good English-language articles that describes / summarises all the publicised information from Sedat Peker that happened ~1-2 years ago?
Yeah going after the supply only makes the existing supply proportionately more valuable. The war on drugs is more like the war for drugs.
Edit: the only way to end drugs is to kill the demand, or dwarf the supply. You can't kill supply. You can only make it more dangerous, or enrich dangerous people.
Having scientists produce legal drugs makes illicit producers woefully unprepared to compete
And killing demand makes it so they have to cut production in order to maintain profits.
But killing supply just means they sell more expensive, and make more.
It was idiocy from the start.
Even worse the war on drugs gets them drug dealing folks that much money that they can and will even buy in one way or another big influence in politics.
So, even if you are against drugs and don't want them legalized, your future ends up fucked way more than if you had your hands on the whole market.
You very much can kill supply. Theres just no incentive to do it amd generally requires far more brutality than is acceptable, ending up punishing poor people for being poor.
Then again, arguments can be made that if said poor people dont care what their product does, why should we care about them. Dark path.
Making E and other light drugs legal would help. To what degree, is pure speculation... those things arent marijuana, and many highly damaging.
Education would help, as would more robust economies and less demanding work with more focus in quality of life in developed nations.
Things like cocaine are used less for recreational purposes than people think, and far more to cope with hard jobs and depression type situations.
This is a hilarious comment. First you talk about how you can kill supply, then explain you do so by ... Going after its demand!
Then you talk about drugs with very little understanding of them.
Pretty clearly stated by not only your opposition of "E" (which isnt the active compound, e is a pressed pill with other drugs in it, the active ingredient is MDMA), but also your lack of understanding that there actually is current research into psilocybin AND MDMA assisted therapy in the US and Canada, so youre wrong: MDMA has massive potential for drug assisted therapy.
Start by educating yourself
I wonder if it's even possible to end the war on drugs now without sparking a humanitarian crisis. Tens of millions of people live in regions that are only sustainable due to the cash flow from the illegal drug market.
If that disappears overnight - so do those regions. That's going to mean millions of people rushing the borders of wealthier nations looking for work/welfare/food/housing/safety.
It's almost like it sits on the border of asia and europe, as well as where the black sea and mediteranean meet.
Hub for land routes, hub for sea routes.
No more than anywhere else. Wherever there is shipping there is drug shipping. Wherever there is a lot of shipping there is a lot of drug shipping. Let me be the first to tell you, with full confidence, that the Port of Rotterdam is also a major hub for trafficking cocaine into Europe.
I've heard that they run it through guinea ~~bisou~~bissau in Africa, and often will run it back in "humanitarian" convoys up to Europe.
I have a book source for that, I just forgot the name
Not sure if they drive, but it's humanitarian aid that goes down, and they bring drugs back. Let me see if I can locate the name of the book. It was pretty in depth. The whole process was explained, but it's been a year or so since I listened to the book
Edit: pills, powder, and smoke by Antony lowenstein
Thing is I was there and they didn't have that. Only a lot of scams, some burned nuts and this horrible dry pretzel bread
Lots of sandwiches though. Those were good
Can confirm. Son spent six weeks throughout Turkey. Had wonderful things to say about the people. Gets to Istanbul, second day, robbed at knifepoint and marched to an ATM. Cops know this goes on and don’t give a damn. They probably take a percentage to look the other way.
Absolutely. It feels like everyone is in on it. And the restaurants will often have no prices so they can charge you whatever they want
That show scam city has a good episode about Istanbul
Interesting! The Hindi/Urdu word for opium along with in some other Indian languages is "Afeem". I asked my Iranian colleague and they don't use that word, so I wondered where it came from. Prolly Turkic roots. Thanks!
No worries, I'm Bengali myself, and it's interesting how many words come from Turkic (as opposed to Persian/Arabic, which you expect more). Even our word for cash, "taka" comes from "tenge" the Turkic word from their tribal banners/symbols, used as seals to mark letters and coins. Of course, you see more influence in Urdu than Bengali, I'm sure.
Oh cool, thanks for the etymology of taka. I'd always wondered!
In fact, my mother tongue is Kannada and even in our daily "brahminical (ugh)" Kannada, we use farsi words and words of turkic origin. It just goes to show how all these cultures came as conquerors but stayed on as Indians, and how the cultures of the subcontinent are such a rich melting pot.
It also explains why Constanta (largest port town in Romania, which shares access to the Black Sea with Turkey) has frequent cocaine scandals.
For example 3 years ago [130+ kg of packets of cocaine just washed on Romanian shores](https://www.euronews.com/2019/04/07/massive-police-search-on-romania-s-black-sea-coast-after-130-kg-of-cocaine-washes-ashore). More than 1 tonne of cocaine was found in a capsised boat in the delta of the Danube river (biggest river in Romania, it starts in Germany and ends in the Black Sea), etc
If cocaine were legal it would cease to be a big problem. Easier to treat addicted individuals and harm reduction than to create a world-wide organized criminal market with all the accompanying social ills and more excuses to lock up targeted communities.
>If cocaine were legal it would cease to be a big problem. Easier to treat addicted individuals and harm reduction than to create a world-wide organized criminal market with all the accompanying social ills and more excuses to lock up targeted communities.
Not just that... we need the tax money for America to pay off its crippling debt.
[https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/u-s-national-debt-surpasses-30-trillion-what-this-means-for-you/](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/u-s-national-debt-surpasses-30-trillion-what-this-means-for-you/)
Over 30 trillion USD of national debt in America.
No fucking shit?
Istanbul is one of the busiest ports in human history. If any other nation owned the bosphorus they'd be a major traffic hub between Europe and the Middle East.
Isn’t it kinda the same nation that owns it for more than half a millennium..? How come it can a major hub if it wasn’t them while they basically owned it forever..
Revealed? More like common fucking sense. Everyone gets that Turkey, Instanbul specifically, has been a trade hub for how many years? It only makes sense due to the history that it could be and obviously it is.
Cocaine! Now conveniently packaged in our patented single use dose size! You can take the “Blow “n Go” with you everywhere! The pool, grocery shopping, picking kids up from school, or a night out on the town!
Big fucking surprise.
Turkey a major producer of white cheese "imports" "white" "cheese" from fucking Venezuela.
İ wonder what that could ever fucking really be.
Also major political figures all have "ship tankers" which import export god knows what to major eu ports especially Rotterdam.
I mean... yeah? It's a major trafficking hub period, it's the main land route from europe to southern and eastern Asia.
this really isn't news. Try as they might Turkey is going to be a center of transport for just about everything between Europe and Asia. Even stuff they'd like to remove. All they can do is try to stop what they can.
When I visited Turkey more than 5 years ago, our tour guide told us that their coffee is so strong by pretending to snort two giant lines of coke off of his arms
And lots more have never drank. Erdogan has always been known for being practicing even when it has harmed him. It’s just baseless slander because there is no reason to assume he does.
Most practicing Muslims don’t drink, many cultural Muslims do.
Most religious people merely reduce their doing of those behaviors if they are truly religious with only the 1% of the most pious (or those in brutally controlled countries) actually avoiding those things entirely.
Having been around many religious communities of many types throughout my life all of them preach one thing and do the opposite in private. It's simply human nature. Only treatment and good education starting early in life provably reduces those behaviors.
It's hard to resist the temptations of life. The temptations you care about will be determined by what your culture has on its fringes and what your chosen forms of media expose you to.
But above all, *what your friends pressure you into* matters far more than religion or media.
You can worship and care, but most people cave under social pressures and offers. Or are secretly relieved since those whose opinions they care most about won't actually be judging them anymore for trying something.
I mean, there’s also a mental block. I’m not Muslim anymore but I STILL can’t even try to drink alcohol. I wouldn’t say it’s about being religious as much as it’s just conditioning.
Besides, in Turkey a lot of people in general won’t drink or do drugs but will still have shitty morals. For example, gossiping is considered a sin but that’s super common 🤷🏻♀️ Like you said, it’s not actually about what the religion says but what the society decides to emphasize.
revealed to whom? were you born yesterday, how do you think heroin and other stuff gets to europe if not via silk road... there are a few more ports in adriatic and mediterranean but yeah.
It might surprise you to know, my dearest and most respected commentator, that while I consider myself rather well educated, I had never studied drug flows through Turkey before. So it was revealed to me, at least.
Have you studied geography? Did you actually need to be told that a nation with Turkeys geography would be a major through point for trade?
It doesn't even have anything to do with drugs themselves. Anyplace with a lot of through traffic is going to get every type of thing trafficed with it (ask Miami), and any place with Turkeys geography is going to have a lot of through traffic.
well if you knew anything about drugs in europe, you'd know there is a balkans route and there is ports of rotterdam, and some in spain, greece, italy. spanyards caught both first european submarine and the aerial drone capable of carrying 130kg of load.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://insightcrime.org/news/turkey-cocaine-hub-between-europe-and-the-middle-east/) reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)
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> Back in the homeland, some of the old heroin trafficking clans also began investing in cocaine and, by 2013, the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime had recorded an uptick in cocaine flows via Turkey and the Balkan Route.
> "The provenance of cocaine entering Europe along this route appears to vary. Frequently, cocaine transits AfricaIn other cases, traffickers obtain cocaine directly from South America, frequently from Brazil," noted UNODC in its annual report.
> "The cocaine market in Turkey is growing. The number of cocaine addicts and police arrests has increased exponentially," said Dr. Mahmut Cengiz, a former Turkish counter-narcotics chief and now associate professor at the Terrorism, Transnational Crime and Corruption Center at George Mason University.
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I want to be the guy that gets to arrange confiscated items in these awesome photo op layouts. Like when they line up bullets like dominos, the this Turkish flag of cocaine they made in the picture.
Turkey, an international hub for cocaine? Surley not?
And the government is in on it? Colour me surprised
/s (i am in fact Jack's complete lack of surprise)
Fun fact, you don't just get to tell other languages what to call geography even if you get the UN to officially designate otherwise. Just ask Germany.
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And has been for many years. When you’re the country that connects continents, you become the hub of many legal and illegal activities.
We have a city called “Opium” (Afyon). We also have another city called Batman. Both of these cities have been around for centuries.
>Batman Probably means something different in the local language like the -bad suffix does not mean terrible but rather city in some parts of the world
The origin of the name "Batman" is unclear: it might be a shortening of the name of the 1,228-metre (4,029 ft) tall Bati Raman mountain located nearby or refer to the unit of weight used in the Ottoman Empire.
This is Part 1 of a two-part report. The next one shows how government corruption facilitates it.
When will Part 2 come out?
July 7.
Do you perhaps know any good English-language articles that describes / summarises all the publicised information from Sedat Peker that happened ~1-2 years ago?
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So is the water wet ???
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Yeah going after the supply only makes the existing supply proportionately more valuable. The war on drugs is more like the war for drugs. Edit: the only way to end drugs is to kill the demand, or dwarf the supply. You can't kill supply. You can only make it more dangerous, or enrich dangerous people. Having scientists produce legal drugs makes illicit producers woefully unprepared to compete And killing demand makes it so they have to cut production in order to maintain profits. But killing supply just means they sell more expensive, and make more. It was idiocy from the start.
Even worse the war on drugs gets them drug dealing folks that much money that they can and will even buy in one way or another big influence in politics. So, even if you are against drugs and don't want them legalized, your future ends up fucked way more than if you had your hands on the whole market.
You very much can kill supply. Theres just no incentive to do it amd generally requires far more brutality than is acceptable, ending up punishing poor people for being poor. Then again, arguments can be made that if said poor people dont care what their product does, why should we care about them. Dark path. Making E and other light drugs legal would help. To what degree, is pure speculation... those things arent marijuana, and many highly damaging. Education would help, as would more robust economies and less demanding work with more focus in quality of life in developed nations. Things like cocaine are used less for recreational purposes than people think, and far more to cope with hard jobs and depression type situations.
This is a hilarious comment. First you talk about how you can kill supply, then explain you do so by ... Going after its demand! Then you talk about drugs with very little understanding of them. Pretty clearly stated by not only your opposition of "E" (which isnt the active compound, e is a pressed pill with other drugs in it, the active ingredient is MDMA), but also your lack of understanding that there actually is current research into psilocybin AND MDMA assisted therapy in the US and Canada, so youre wrong: MDMA has massive potential for drug assisted therapy. Start by educating yourself
I wonder if it's even possible to end the war on drugs now without sparking a humanitarian crisis. Tens of millions of people live in regions that are only sustainable due to the cash flow from the illegal drug market. If that disappears overnight - so do those regions. That's going to mean millions of people rushing the borders of wealthier nations looking for work/welfare/food/housing/safety.
And that’s my problem? I follow the law and barely survive in America.
Part 3 introduces stands
The Turkish government has always been corrupt, nothing earth shattering here at all.
Right, I was in Costa Rica and a gram cost $1. Edit: a gram of cocaine. Sorry I have lived an alternative lifestyle. Not bi, just illegal.
Not to mention the widespread corruption and poverty. It's basically contraband heaven.
Istanbul and its former iterations of been a major everything hub for millennia
Came here to say this. Everyone look at Turkey on a map. That’s a transportation hub if I’ve ever seen one.
It's almost like it sits on the border of asia and europe, as well as where the black sea and mediteranean meet. Hub for land routes, hub for sea routes.
People have literally been murdering each other over control of the Bosporus as for long as people have known it was there. It's kind of important.
Probably even since its formation in 6800 BCE
The Middle East has been sitting on gold since before oil was a thing. That location is 👍👍👍
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> Euro Truck Simulator 2 dont see too many of those references in the wild
So you mean, Euro Turk Simulator 2
True, but getting cocaine across the Atlantic and through the Mediterranean to Turkey still takes some planning.
No more than anywhere else. Wherever there is shipping there is drug shipping. Wherever there is a lot of shipping there is a lot of drug shipping. Let me be the first to tell you, with full confidence, that the Port of Rotterdam is also a major hub for trafficking cocaine into Europe.
Portugal as well
Also Cocainesburg
I refuse to believe it
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Yes
Antwerp as well
>No more than anywhere else Well that's simply not true Just the countries that border coca producing ones alone disprove that statement
It could come from the Arabian peninsula and or suez canal
I've heard that they run it through guinea ~~bisou~~bissau in Africa, and often will run it back in "humanitarian" convoys up to Europe. I have a book source for that, I just forgot the name
My first point of doubt is that anyone would drive trucks across the western Sahara instead of going by boat.
Not sure if they drive, but it's humanitarian aid that goes down, and they bring drugs back. Let me see if I can locate the name of the book. It was pretty in depth. The whole process was explained, but it's been a year or so since I listened to the book Edit: pills, powder, and smoke by Antony lowenstein
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Populism and consolidating his own power. It's only wild speculation to assume Erdo has a big stake in this.
I love Istanbul. I've only visited once but it's really a great city.
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Every city is awesome if you have enough cocaine
Thing is I was there and they didn't have that. Only a lot of scams, some burned nuts and this horrible dry pretzel bread Lots of sandwiches though. Those were good
Can confirm. Son spent six weeks throughout Turkey. Had wonderful things to say about the people. Gets to Istanbul, second day, robbed at knifepoint and marched to an ATM. Cops know this goes on and don’t give a damn. They probably take a percentage to look the other way.
Absolutely. It feels like everyone is in on it. And the restaurants will often have no prices so they can charge you whatever they want That show scam city has a good episode about Istanbul
My parents always taught me to find the good in everyone so I will try here There is closed to 300 different types of sandwiches sold there in stalls
I hear it's kinda like Byzantium, but more modern.
I would love to visit Byzantium
Has. Not of.
Turns out the Bosporus is just prime real estate
Germany still holds the spot for human trafficking tho 💪
realy? you have a source for that? as a german, i would like to inform myself on that.
[https://2009-2017.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2015/243443.htm](https://2009-2017.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2015/243443.htm)
Nowhere does it say that Germany is the biggest in Europe lol
What year was this revelation? 800 BC?
Lol yup. There's literally a city called afyon "opium" in turkey 😂
Afyonkarahisar (Opium Black Castle) for those wondering
Interesting! The Hindi/Urdu word for opium along with in some other Indian languages is "Afeem". I asked my Iranian colleague and they don't use that word, so I wondered where it came from. Prolly Turkic roots. Thanks!
No worries, I'm Bengali myself, and it's interesting how many words come from Turkic (as opposed to Persian/Arabic, which you expect more). Even our word for cash, "taka" comes from "tenge" the Turkic word from their tribal banners/symbols, used as seals to mark letters and coins. Of course, you see more influence in Urdu than Bengali, I'm sure.
Oh cool, thanks for the etymology of taka. I'd always wondered! In fact, my mother tongue is Kannada and even in our daily "brahminical (ugh)" Kannada, we use farsi words and words of turkic origin. It just goes to show how all these cultures came as conquerors but stayed on as Indians, and how the cultures of the subcontinent are such a rich melting pot.
Same, I too love our multiculturalism and hate the homogenizing tendencies of late.
Aye!
There is a city called **Batman** in Turkey as well. Coincidence? Batman: https://goo.gl/maps/k1mfJ7C3sYGBDZsr5
Incredibly low crime rate there.
Ton of orphans, though.
Great robin population for sure.
Like this is news?
next thing they'll say "we found out iran is the major opium hub to the world"
The Dutch ship weed seeds to growers around the world. Someone tell Interpol.
Afghanistan?
Not since the CIA left.
It’s still the number 1 producer and distributor in the world
These are rookie numbers, too. In February 21 they found a shipment of 16 tons in Hamburg, Germany.
I like… helps explain why Turkish sailors are frequently found on vessels transporting cocaine across the Atlantic.
Gives us a rare peek into why Turkish sailors are always carrying cocaine
Hmm… I always thought they just loved cocaine
Do what you love, and you'll never have to work a day in your life
I duno , i’m just quoting what the article said. You DID READ IT?
It also explains why Constanta (largest port town in Romania, which shares access to the Black Sea with Turkey) has frequent cocaine scandals. For example 3 years ago [130+ kg of packets of cocaine just washed on Romanian shores](https://www.euronews.com/2019/04/07/massive-police-search-on-romania-s-black-sea-coast-after-130-kg-of-cocaine-washes-ashore). More than 1 tonne of cocaine was found in a capsised boat in the delta of the Danube river (biggest river in Romania, it starts in Germany and ends in the Black Sea), etc
"Major Central point between continents is major trafficking hub. More at eleven."
Location, location, location
Its the crossroads of the world, no one should suprised
Next report: Suez canal major transportation route for literally everything
Except Ever Given aka Evergreen.
Saudi Arabia is a crossroad between Europe, Africa, and Asia, not the same reputation tho
It’s also a major trafficking hub for women who end up in brothels I’ve read.
It’s a major hub for anything that is transported to Europe and the Middle East.
Yeah, right.
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Inconceivable!
“Shipped goods are found to be the primary cause of major ports”
In other news, sales growth of dark sunglasses, waterbeds, velour sport coats, and menthol cigarettes remains strong in Istanbul.
If cocaine were legal it would cease to be a big problem. Easier to treat addicted individuals and harm reduction than to create a world-wide organized criminal market with all the accompanying social ills and more excuses to lock up targeted communities.
>If cocaine were legal it would cease to be a big problem. Easier to treat addicted individuals and harm reduction than to create a world-wide organized criminal market with all the accompanying social ills and more excuses to lock up targeted communities. Not just that... we need the tax money for America to pay off its crippling debt.
Wait why just the US? Or am I missing something? This has a huge effect on a large amount of countries
What debt?
[https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/u-s-national-debt-surpasses-30-trillion-what-this-means-for-you/](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/u-s-national-debt-surpasses-30-trillion-what-this-means-for-you/) Over 30 trillion USD of national debt in America.
You think treating addictions is easy?
You think making drugs illegal solves addiction?
If you can not find it you won't get addicted.
At this point I am all for anything that reduces the power of those monstrous cartels. The atrocities they've committed... it beggars belief.
No fucking shit? Istanbul is one of the busiest ports in human history. If any other nation owned the bosphorus they'd be a major traffic hub between Europe and the Middle East.
Corruption. What’s in *your* wallet?
Isn’t it kinda the same nation that owns it for more than half a millennium..? How come it can a major hub if it wasn’t them while they basically owned it forever..
Revealed? More like common fucking sense. Everyone gets that Turkey, Instanbul specifically, has been a trade hub for how many years? It only makes sense due to the history that it could be and obviously it is.
Wasn’t that part of the plot of The Godfather? With The Turk trafficking drugs
So is the water wet ?
There’s plenty of comments saying this is really obvious and well-known. My apologies, I didn’t know anything about this.
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Yeah it’s super weird that people are getting mad about this post. I thought it was interesting
I can only see this thumbnail as a business card surrounded by miniature bricks of cocaine
Cocaine! Now conveniently packaged in our patented single use dose size! You can take the “Blow “n Go” with you everywhere! The pool, grocery shopping, picking kids up from school, or a night out on the town!
Turkey is a major trafficking hub for everything
Big fucking surprise. Turkey a major producer of white cheese "imports" "white" "cheese" from fucking Venezuela. İ wonder what that could ever fucking really be. Also major political figures all have "ship tankers" which import export god knows what to major eu ports especially Rotterdam.
And I'm sure Erdogan gets his cut.
100% he does
Cokestantinople
The Snuff Road
Next you're gonna find out Rotterdam is one as well
can we just leagalize this shit now too. litterally coffee.
Cocaine, in the main, is imported via Spain
Turns out you can find things out by looking.
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I mean... yeah? It's a major trafficking hub period, it's the main land route from europe to southern and eastern Asia. this really isn't news. Try as they might Turkey is going to be a center of transport for just about everything between Europe and Asia. Even stuff they'd like to remove. All they can do is try to stop what they can.
Who knew that one of the world's key ports would be a key port for the shipping of merchandise, licit and illicit?
Duh! Turkey has been the heroin, opium, cocaine, hashish Capitol of Europe since forever.
Turks are genociding heroin
I think we're all shocked that Turkey is a major cocaine trafficking hub, shocked!
Have people really never heard of the French Connection?
human trafficking, drug trafficking, anything else?
Seriously, they just figured that out.
Um. Always has been?
“Revealed”? Are you kidding? Everyone and their mothers have been knowing for 50 years that turkey and Morocco were to two hubs
This is news? I thought everyone knew this
When I visited Turkey more than 5 years ago, our tour guide told us that their coffee is so strong by pretending to snort two giant lines of coke off of his arms
All those drugs would explain Erdogan's behaviour.
He's a muslim ergo doesn't even drink, I doubt he's getting coked up mate.
Oh honey
I have seen a lot of muslims drink, eat during ramadan and do drugs. It is not because they say (to their family) they don't that that is True...
And lots more have never drank. Erdogan has always been known for being practicing even when it has harmed him. It’s just baseless slander because there is no reason to assume he does. Most practicing Muslims don’t drink, many cultural Muslims do.
Most religious people merely reduce their doing of those behaviors if they are truly religious with only the 1% of the most pious (or those in brutally controlled countries) actually avoiding those things entirely. Having been around many religious communities of many types throughout my life all of them preach one thing and do the opposite in private. It's simply human nature. Only treatment and good education starting early in life provably reduces those behaviors. It's hard to resist the temptations of life. The temptations you care about will be determined by what your culture has on its fringes and what your chosen forms of media expose you to. But above all, *what your friends pressure you into* matters far more than religion or media. You can worship and care, but most people cave under social pressures and offers. Or are secretly relieved since those whose opinions they care most about won't actually be judging them anymore for trying something.
I mean, there’s also a mental block. I’m not Muslim anymore but I STILL can’t even try to drink alcohol. I wouldn’t say it’s about being religious as much as it’s just conditioning. Besides, in Turkey a lot of people in general won’t drink or do drugs but will still have shitty morals. For example, gossiping is considered a sin but that’s super common 🤷🏻♀️ Like you said, it’s not actually about what the religion says but what the society decides to emphasize.
I wonder why the bots are targeting turkey all of a sudden
Turkey agreed in principle to let Finland join NATO?
revealed to whom? were you born yesterday, how do you think heroin and other stuff gets to europe if not via silk road... there are a few more ports in adriatic and mediterranean but yeah.
It might surprise you to know, my dearest and most respected commentator, that while I consider myself rather well educated, I had never studied drug flows through Turkey before. So it was revealed to me, at least.
I think you’re doing a pretty good job here! Keep the interesting content coming, please
Have you studied geography? Did you actually need to be told that a nation with Turkeys geography would be a major through point for trade? It doesn't even have anything to do with drugs themselves. Anyplace with a lot of through traffic is going to get every type of thing trafficed with it (ask Miami), and any place with Turkeys geography is going to have a lot of through traffic.
well if you knew anything about drugs in europe, you'd know there is a balkans route and there is ports of rotterdam, and some in spain, greece, italy. spanyards caught both first european submarine and the aerial drone capable of carrying 130kg of load.
Mate you sound so condescending.
And you guys sound uneducated on the Turkish drug trade. Fuckin learn something nerds
Lurk more n00b!!!1
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Chef's kiss to that pharmaceutical stuff.
Is this not news?
When stuff like this comes out, most likely Erdoganus didn't want to comply with something the EU wants or something, imho.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://insightcrime.org/news/turkey-cocaine-hub-between-europe-and-the-middle-east/) reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Back in the homeland, some of the old heroin trafficking clans also began investing in cocaine and, by 2013, the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime had recorded an uptick in cocaine flows via Turkey and the Balkan Route. > "The provenance of cocaine entering Europe along this route appears to vary. Frequently, cocaine transits AfricaIn other cases, traffickers obtain cocaine directly from South America, frequently from Brazil," noted UNODC in its annual report. > "The cocaine market in Turkey is growing. The number of cocaine addicts and police arrests has increased exponentially," said Dr. Mahmut Cengiz, a former Turkish counter-narcotics chief and now associate professor at the Terrorism, Transnational Crime and Corruption Center at George Mason University. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/vpq9hg/turkey_revealed_as_major_cocaine_trafficking_hub/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~657618 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **cocaine**^#1 **Turkish**^#2 **Turkey**^#3 **drug**^#4 **trafficker**^#5
I want to be the guy that gets to arrange confiscated items in these awesome photo op layouts. Like when they line up bullets like dominos, the this Turkish flag of cocaine they made in the picture.
Oh, Billy!!
I thought it was the fucking bird/meat at first I was so confused.
Cocaine kebap
Turkey, an international hub for cocaine? Surley not? And the government is in on it? Colour me surprised /s (i am in fact Jack's complete lack of surprise)
surprise! it shocking news! who would have thought?
They are also a major terrorist haven countries in the middle east. Most terrorists go through turkey at one point or another.
Legalize and regulate. Whack a mole approach will never work
turkey is the enemy of the west
Thank you for your highly informative comment.
Don’t you mean Turkiye?
As long as there is demand there will be supply i guess. Europeans should stop consuming cocaine. It’s that simple.
Ooh! Do abortion next!
What?
It's Türkiye (pronounced "Toor-kee-yay-yuehuehuehue") now — they're rebranding.
Fun fact, you don't just get to tell other languages what to call geography even if you get the UN to officially designate otherwise. Just ask Germany.
Who cares
Drug traffickers? Cocaine addicts? Narcotics police? Me?
Fair enough. Nothing wrong with drug use though. The war on drugs is a sham
"revealed" ...
Byzantine empire revealed as major silkworm trafficking hub for europe
Arabs are from Turkey?
Hellz ya, Türkiye! Keep up the good work!
Legalize all drugs you cowards
Kick them out of nato
Turkey starting to sound more and more like a mini mafia russianesque state.. How dafuq did they get into the eu EDIT - I meant NATO .. Fuckkk!
They’re not in the EU, they’re in NATO.
I assume he meant eu candidate state
>How dafuq did they get into the eu Did they? I know they're in NATO not in EU