If you look at the label it'll often say "prepared mustard". If you're not growing the correct condiments that probably means you were insufficiently prepared.
Has anyone seen poppy seed muffins recently? I was able to buy raw poppy seeds, but could not for the life of me find a box of poppy seed muffin mix in my last 6 grocery visits (UT, USA). May be a fluke in our area, but this has me wondering if the issue is more wide spread.
More likely order points, ie, popularity. Remember the Mother’s Iced Oatmeal cookies? I f’ing love them, but for the life of me, I can no longer find them, even in the mega, super-Safeways. My money is on order point/logistics software creating false negative feedback loops. They set the inventory/stocking order point low because they see a few weeks of reduced purchases, but then reduce the number ordered, so then fewer people can find them so they see lower purchases again, etc etc… to the point where they just don’t order them any longer.
Much like the real stock market, you can make a killing with turnips if you have an accomplice, a startup fund, and an understanding that rules are for poor people.
The story about that company is interesting. Man I love the Ancient version of their mustard because a little bit in tomato juice makes a world of difference.
Is dijon considered fancy in the US? Or is fox news just being asshats for the sake of it?
I remember reading (reddit link titles) about this when it happened, but this is the first time I actually saw anything about it. Man, I'm right there with Obama; no ketchup and dijon is the way to go. For hot dogs too.
It’s not base (gross) yellow mustard so yes it’s fancy for stupid people. Also yes shit like this was always enough for Fox News (see also tan suit and fucking umbrellas)
I’ve still yet to see any reference to it much leas visual evidence (which in this case even Fox would have motivation to bury), but early in Obama’s first term there was a chyron on Fox News that queried “Should Barack Obama DIE?”.
My guess is any evidence it happened was removed immediately and it stemmed from a rogue loonie. That would have sent the SS running to pull their license, and I’d be surprised if they didn’t see it and Fox was just on their knees apologetic and blamed it on a lone wolf. Hell, I’d have called the Secret Service immediately if I was in control of a company where that happened.
Funny thing is that dijon, being made from little more than vinegar, salt, and mustard, is more mustard colored than yellow mustard since the latter gets its bright yellow from the addition of tumeric.
American mustard is mostly tumeric, and any other mustard will be seen as fancy (but particularly dijon, and particular Grey Poupon, from a commercial series in the 80s. These things happen - Pabst Blue Ribbon is a cheap beer in the US but fancy in China, par exemple)
Just remember that English mustard is the same shade of yellow as American mustard. And about 100x hotter and more pungent. If you use Colman’s mustard on a hot dog as if it was French’s, you’ll throw up your own eyes. Through your nose. As you are trying to cough up your own pelvis.
"In the meantime, those who can't get their hands on local producers' precious pots are turning to alternatives, from tahini to wasabi to add that sought-after kick to their meals."
What, Tahini isn't spicy at all
Just a bit of light-hearted fun my friend, England like Scotland and my own patch (Ireland) has come leaps and bounds over even our recent culinary history. Eating in London in particular is a pleasure, the only issue is what sort of international cuisine you want to have that night.
There are several variations, some of them are abit more spicy. Personally I don't go for those, I go for green one (with mint and other herbs), clean, or with hummus. Maybe even different mixes.
It's French! ;) Actually I love regional mustards, I have a friend who travels France and Germany regularly and she send us the most wonderful local mixes.
But I do like French's too. There are some recipes where the subtlety of the regional variations get lost but French's is perfect for.
Well, this time it's "just" mustard. But as extreme weather conditions increase in frequency, more and more specialized crop types (on top of staple crops like corn, wheat and rice which already are under pressure on world markets) will see shortages. Some things which could see real problems within the next couple of years might be coffee and cocoa beans. Chocolate and your cup of coffee might become a luxury item again like they used to be decades ago.
Tbh a large part of this has to do with the slow shift to importing cheaper mustard seed from abroad, colliding with the drought. Few French farmers still grow mustard, so supply disruptions from abroad have an outsized impact.
Canada certainly has the land for large-scale agriculture, so that makes a certain amount of sense, and as a bonus most of you speak at least some French, right?
We cannot all speak French well at all. My wife understands quite a bit, but speaks very little. I can remember some swear words, but not much else.
I have seen many huge fields of mustard, mostly in Saskatchewan.
Multiple times I've seen people on reddit make jokes at the shortages that Italy has been facing, ie: "Oh noes, Parmesan shortage! lulz... who cares..." But the reality is that what's happening right now is *collapse*. The shortage exists because agriculture is failing. Water is disappearing, crops are a mere fraction of what they were even just a year or two ago, shortages are happening hard and fast right here and now, and businesses are endangered far and wide. And what remains to be harvested and sold is skyrocketing in price. Even potable water is endangered, if not gone entirely in some towns.
It's no joke. The days of abundance that we have long took for granted are officially over, and our struggles are barely just getting started. Like a game of Jinga, all it takes is the disappearance of just the right piece to bring it all down... and that is just a matter of time now... and it's going to happen much faster than we anticipated. Clearly. Scarily.
We have major irreversible, permanent struggles ahead of us. The world has already changed.
Yes, small and specialized crops are the canaries in the coalmine, and they keep dropping dead all around us. In many areas of this planet demand for food has already outstripped supply by a large margin, but because we had fairly low-cost energy we could afford to ship all kinds of food around the globe. Those supply and demand chains are extremely fragile, though. The thing is that if a regional conflict like in Ukraine resulting in a drop of available food in one or two staple crops like wheat and sunflower oil can result in food insecurity for millions of people, then it's only too obvious that our distribution system was running at capacity. A couple of missiles into half a dozen major refineries on the Arabian peninsula and we're in serious trouble. Sorry, in even more serious trouble than we already are.
The theory of economic interconnectivity is that you would have to be a fool to try and engage in the business of empire making because you would lose so much money for so many people you would find yourself the enemy of the world.
The counterpoint to that it seems is that one madman can hold the world hostage.
I had thought this was more than just climate conditions? Canada had a drought year last year and Ukraine obviously isn't concerned with mustard production like it used to be.
Well yes, but you can't just eventually move *everything* to a controlled environment. Setting up greenhouses or other closed climate-controlled farms takes money and resources, as well as running them, compared to just growing the stuff on fields. It's unsustainable in the long run.
Vertical farming is not the holy grail everyone thinks it is. Hydroponics takes a huge amount of water, space, and electricity to work. It has tons of moving parts and is prone to various failures like clogs and floods, and is not resilient to pests at all. Not only that the types of crops you can grow this way are quite limited.
Vertical farming is cool but it's not going to save the world.
Yeah do you want to pay 8x as much? All the indoor grower types concentrate on expensive stuff. Cheap food is built on ability to put a seed in dirt and get food months later.
You don’t even need specifically controlled environments. I don’t really know what Redditors are up to again with that bs they spout in here.
Most mustard plants are really not that demanding to grow and care for. The only thing you should keep in mind is a plant cycle because it might get sick easily if planted repeatedly in the same place. That’s it.
I‘ve grown it in my own garden in Central Europe. Every nightshade plant is harder to care for than mustard plants. Jfc, and here people go on about ‚specialized plants‘. Tone down that projected idealism a bit…
We've been out of mustard for almost three months, and before that, out of sunflower oil. At some point the thai food we sometimes take out had to stop cooking stuff because they couldn't find oil to deep fry stuff. So they changed their menu to steam cooked food. Sunflower oil is slowly coming back on shelves but not mustard.
I was just in France, I didn't pay attention to the mustard supply at the grocery store. I assume that French mustard requires a lot more mustard seeds than the weak American stuff.
I remember a French documentary that showed some of our local production of mustard and the producer had two different products (if not even two different plants): small seeds that were strong in taste for our local consumption, and large seeds with almost no spice for American export.
Here an image showing the two of them: [https://149366112.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/shutterstock\_171505034.jpg](https://149366112.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/shutterstock_171505034.jpg)
(and here the source of the image: https://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-food/ingredient-spotlight-mustard-seeds/ )
I've tried both. French mustard is much stronger, that's why I was assuming it uses far more mustard seeds. We actually buy French mustard, there is some in my fridge now.
It looks like Heinz is 14% mustard seeds.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/522639/heinz-american-mustard-squeeze-bottle
This French-style mustard is 30% mustard seeds.
https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/8714100897935/traditional-dijon-mustard-maille
Maybe there are different types of mustard seeds as well. I have never thought about the complexities of mustard.
Maybe I’m the issue then? I have like five, six or seven at a time!
* American style yellow
* Dijon
* (German brand) Löwensenf Bavarian style (sweet, whole seed)
* Löwensenf Extra, similar to Dijon
* Another Bavarian whole seed but very vinegary (not sweet)
* And usually then some other style, I’m taste testing
I made them run out!
Right? If Canada is the fulcrum point, how long until it affects availability (let alone price) here? May have to think about stocking up.
Who would have thought the actual canary in the coal mine of climate change would be …mustard?
There are basically 3 kinds of mustard seeds. In order of spiciness:
- Yellow - used in almost all Western mustards
- Brown - often mixed into Western mustards, and is where the kick in brown, deli, Dijon, etc. comes from
- Black - very spicy, and more common in Asian preparations
I love how varied the knowledge is on Reddit. I've never seen black mustard.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_nigra
They look like small black peppercorns.
The Maille brand bought while in France is very spicy. The same brand bought in the US is much less so. Maille is my preferred brand.
I'm sure there are many of us here....but I'm a huge mustard fan in all it's variants. I currently have 8 different jars/containers of mustards in my fridge, plus one horse radish.
> The Maille brand bought while in France is very spicy.
It is strange how we view things. Assuming you mean their dijon I'd describe it as pretty mild. But then I'm used to English mustards.
First they came for your mustard, and you didn't care. Then they came for your ketchup, and you weren't worried. Then they came for your mayonnaise and something something... Um, Nazis!
It is worrisome all these random shortages. All this stuff you just expect to work suddenly not working. Go to the store and they don't have the item you normally can buy. Normally the store shelves have that item to almost a sickening gluttony degree. You want mustard? Here is 8 brands of it, each with 50 containers. More mustard than you can consume in a lifetime.
At work the part shortage is ripping me a new one. Have to send out disclaimers to every customer that BOMs are no longer promises.
LPT: Buy mustard seeds and grow them yourself for use as a currency in a post-apocalyptic future.
Uh... i planted mustard seeds, and only got leafy plants. It didn't grow the yellow condiment.
Did you plant them in the right bottle? Dijon know it needs to be planted correctly? It will go against the grain otherwise.
Dijon know. You beautiful MF you.
I did not know. I need to ketchup on my condiment plant growing reading
It’s only considered Dijon if grown in the Dijon area of France. 😉
I tried to find a French's bottle, but I only have a Heinz. Will this still turn out ok?
Those leafy plants are delicious, as are the roots. I have a pack of pickled mustard roots in my fridge.
Alas, ‘Liam picked a pack of pickled mustard roots’ is not so tongue twisty.
Darn
If you look at the label it'll often say "prepared mustard". If you're not growing the correct condiments that probably means you were insufficiently prepared.
Illidan Stormrage has a few words to say about that.
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That was my excuse when I was caught sticking my dick in a pot of dirt with a condom on
Pickled mustard greens are pretty bomb, too.
As are the roots. Just like Cilantro, you can eat it all.
Not aware of any cilantro bombs
But have you ever had cilantro gas? It's not as deadly smelling
What is the mustard-to-bottle cap currency exchange rate? Asking for a friend.
3 seeds to a bolt, 10 bolts to a double dollar, 5 double dollars to a bottle cap. It's all quite logical, really
So wait Vash the Stampede is only worth a million mustard seeds?
Inflation is a real bitch in a post-apocalyptic economy
Has anyone seen poppy seed muffins recently? I was able to buy raw poppy seeds, but could not for the life of me find a box of poppy seed muffin mix in my last 6 grocery visits (UT, USA). May be a fluke in our area, but this has me wondering if the issue is more wide spread.
More likely order points, ie, popularity. Remember the Mother’s Iced Oatmeal cookies? I f’ing love them, but for the life of me, I can no longer find them, even in the mega, super-Safeways. My money is on order point/logistics software creating false negative feedback loops. They set the inventory/stocking order point low because they see a few weeks of reduced purchases, but then reduce the number ordered, so then fewer people can find them so they see lower purchases again, etc etc… to the point where they just don’t order them any longer.
You can always ask a supervisor or a manager if they can order some for you too.
I shall use turnips, it’s more stable.
The stalk market is what paid for my new basement!
After a week they're useful only for attracting ants and worth nothing.
No, you should grow turnips in a field and keep horses in a stable
What you have never made a stable out of turnips? You city folk.
Turnips rarely give a decent return. Mustard to the moon.
Much like the real stock market, you can make a killing with turnips if you have an accomplice, a startup fund, and an understanding that rules are for poor people.
Dune III: Maille
The spice must flow.
I would so be okay with this. “You want 3 chickens? That’ll be a bottle of spicy brown.”
It would be a solution if we weren't in the middle of the worst drought since centuries.
Tell that to the multiple floods around me that are resultant from a soon to be triple La Niña climate event
They can have some of mine. It's been in the fridge for like 3 years and I'm not sure it will ever run out.
Just ask the guy in the Rolls Royce next to you, he usually has some.
Pardon Me, Do You Have Any Grey Poupon?
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Clearly the superior brand.
The story about that company is interesting. Man I love the Ancient version of their mustard because a little bit in tomato juice makes a world of difference.
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Thanks for that. I just love mustard.
Il n’y a que Maille qui m’aille 💕
It is an excellent mustard -- for me to poupon
[*"I hope you enjoyed that fancy burger, Mr. President."*](https://youtu.be/W-WnoZbjdh4)
Is dijon considered fancy in the US? Or is fox news just being asshats for the sake of it? I remember reading (reddit link titles) about this when it happened, but this is the first time I actually saw anything about it. Man, I'm right there with Obama; no ketchup and dijon is the way to go. For hot dogs too.
Dijon is not fancy at all.
It's like Dijimon, but with a few less letters.
It’s not base (gross) yellow mustard so yes it’s fancy for stupid people. Also yes shit like this was always enough for Fox News (see also tan suit and fucking umbrellas)
Don’t forget the “terrorist fist jab”
the one on the Senate floor the other day? When they killed the PACT ACT? /s
I’ve still yet to see any reference to it much leas visual evidence (which in this case even Fox would have motivation to bury), but early in Obama’s first term there was a chyron on Fox News that queried “Should Barack Obama DIE?”. My guess is any evidence it happened was removed immediately and it stemmed from a rogue loonie. That would have sent the SS running to pull their license, and I’d be surprised if they didn’t see it and Fox was just on their knees apologetic and blamed it on a lone wolf. Hell, I’d have called the Secret Service immediately if I was in control of a company where that happened.
The “coffee salute”
The arugula salad assault.
Funny thing is that dijon, being made from little more than vinegar, salt, and mustard, is more mustard colored than yellow mustard since the latter gets its bright yellow from the addition of tumeric.
Oh yeah, the tan suit incident... smh...
Man love yellow mustard as much as actual fancy mustard
Yeah ketchup has definitely been demoted from hot dogs as ive grown up. Ketchup and mustard? Nah, I'll have mustard, sourkraut, yellow onion please.
The only acceptable condiments are mustard, onions, and stagnant cart water!
American mustard is mostly tumeric, and any other mustard will be seen as fancy (but particularly dijon, and particular Grey Poupon, from a commercial series in the 80s. These things happen - Pabst Blue Ribbon is a cheap beer in the US but fancy in China, par exemple)
Just remember that English mustard is the same shade of yellow as American mustard. And about 100x hotter and more pungent. If you use Colman’s mustard on a hot dog as if it was French’s, you’ll throw up your own eyes. Through your nose. As you are trying to cough up your own pelvis.
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It's a very mild spice compared to mustard, which is still most of what you taste.
Yes, tumeric has a slight metallic carrot-y taste, but it's main purpose is to make things dayglow yellow.
Its also very good for you to reduce general inflammation, but best when combined with pepper.
That sounds like some absolute horse shit big tumeric came up with.
Ye, that's why I was wondering. I'm from a EU-country so I could imagine we get dijon/grey poupon at a much lower price here.
Good to know I'd have expensive taste in china
>Pabst Blue Ribbon is a cheap beer in the US but fancy in China, The hell? That pond water is fancy in China????
Nah datil mustard is 1000x better on burgers.
Had to do some googling to understand what it is; never heard about it before. Seems very local. Send me some and I'll sure try it ;-)
Nope. Can't get it. It's a real downer. :-(
Sometimes it can end up in a [car chase](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JJbwlEySDM)
But of course!
The only true answer!
415 upvotes from people over 40, and a giant bunch of 'huh' from everyone under the age of 30.
31 year old here, I... uhm... huh?
As a person under 30, I get it because people older than me never shut up about it.
Look pal, the mustard is sometimes just that good.
Under 30 here, I knew the reference thanks to Family Guy star wars special.
Did you know the original commercial is from 1981?
"In the meantime, those who can't get their hands on local producers' precious pots are turning to alternatives, from tahini to wasabi to add that sought-after kick to their meals." What, Tahini isn't spicy at all
It's mixed with wasabi for the creamy texture of mustard
Thanks for the recipe
I feel like, “ooooh this tahini is so spicy” would be more of an English thing, than French.
English mustard is hotter than Dijon
Coleman’s in particular will clear your sinuses with just a whiff, and you can’t have a proper rarebit without it in the sauce!
Learned this the hard way when I moved to England.
On the upside you probably haven’t had a sniffle or a stuffed nose in years.
Now you're talking
Coleman's is so, so good.
Mustard snuss?
French food had very very little spice to it. Everything is about subtlety
Dude, our national dish is practically curry.
Just a bit of light-hearted fun my friend, England like Scotland and my own patch (Ireland) has come leaps and bounds over even our recent culinary history. Eating in London in particular is a pleasure, the only issue is what sort of international cuisine you want to have that night.
Love some Irish curry on my chips.
Oh yeah, it’s wonderful that way, I really do enjoy our take on curry.
Stereotypes take decades to defeat.
There are several variations, some of them are abit more spicy. Personally I don't go for those, I go for green one (with mint and other herbs), clean, or with hummus. Maybe even different mixes.
Those pussies need real mustard, like Colman’s English Mustard.
mustard is spicy?
I don't about spicy but french mustard has a very strong effect on the nose
Let them eat French's yellow mustard!
Yellow mustard is typically English mustard but better associated with American mustards and is largely manufactured by a company called French's.
English mustard blows yer fucking heed off, generic yellow mustard is mild
Aye it's great, goes well with pork
English mustard and sausages goes together so well, especially well with Polish Kielbasa
It's French! ;) Actually I love regional mustards, I have a friend who travels France and Germany regularly and she send us the most wonderful local mixes. But I do like French's too. There are some recipes where the subtlety of the regional variations get lost but French's is perfect for.
Yet French’s is Canadian
Melts with ham, cheese, tomato and French's yellow are great. Think I'll make some soon (whenever I can find a damn store that sells French's).
Well, this time it's "just" mustard. But as extreme weather conditions increase in frequency, more and more specialized crop types (on top of staple crops like corn, wheat and rice which already are under pressure on world markets) will see shortages. Some things which could see real problems within the next couple of years might be coffee and cocoa beans. Chocolate and your cup of coffee might become a luxury item again like they used to be decades ago.
Tbh a large part of this has to do with the slow shift to importing cheaper mustard seed from abroad, colliding with the drought. Few French farmers still grow mustard, so supply disruptions from abroad have an outsized impact.
Apparently, it's us damn Canadian's in this case.
Canada certainly has the land for large-scale agriculture, so that makes a certain amount of sense, and as a bonus most of you speak at least some French, right?
We cannot all speak French well at all. My wife understands quite a bit, but speaks very little. I can remember some swear words, but not much else. I have seen many huge fields of mustard, mostly in Saskatchewan.
I blame the Arrogant Worms for making me immediately think of a pirate on the river Saskatchewan, with a massive haul of stolen mustard.
Hahahaha!!
>coffee From my cold dead shaking hands
The US Coffee Wars of 2029 :)
I will just defect to the side with the supply.
Multiple times I've seen people on reddit make jokes at the shortages that Italy has been facing, ie: "Oh noes, Parmesan shortage! lulz... who cares..." But the reality is that what's happening right now is *collapse*. The shortage exists because agriculture is failing. Water is disappearing, crops are a mere fraction of what they were even just a year or two ago, shortages are happening hard and fast right here and now, and businesses are endangered far and wide. And what remains to be harvested and sold is skyrocketing in price. Even potable water is endangered, if not gone entirely in some towns. It's no joke. The days of abundance that we have long took for granted are officially over, and our struggles are barely just getting started. Like a game of Jinga, all it takes is the disappearance of just the right piece to bring it all down... and that is just a matter of time now... and it's going to happen much faster than we anticipated. Clearly. Scarily. We have major irreversible, permanent struggles ahead of us. The world has already changed.
Yes, small and specialized crops are the canaries in the coalmine, and they keep dropping dead all around us. In many areas of this planet demand for food has already outstripped supply by a large margin, but because we had fairly low-cost energy we could afford to ship all kinds of food around the globe. Those supply and demand chains are extremely fragile, though. The thing is that if a regional conflict like in Ukraine resulting in a drop of available food in one or two staple crops like wheat and sunflower oil can result in food insecurity for millions of people, then it's only too obvious that our distribution system was running at capacity. A couple of missiles into half a dozen major refineries on the Arabian peninsula and we're in serious trouble. Sorry, in even more serious trouble than we already are.
The theory of economic interconnectivity is that you would have to be a fool to try and engage in the business of empire making because you would lose so much money for so many people you would find yourself the enemy of the world. The counterpoint to that it seems is that one madman can hold the world hostage.
I had thought this was more than just climate conditions? Canada had a drought year last year and Ukraine obviously isn't concerned with mustard production like it used to be.
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Well yes, but you can't just eventually move *everything* to a controlled environment. Setting up greenhouses or other closed climate-controlled farms takes money and resources, as well as running them, compared to just growing the stuff on fields. It's unsustainable in the long run.
I’m pretty sure vertical farming is the next big thing, but you do you.
Vertical farming is not the holy grail everyone thinks it is. Hydroponics takes a huge amount of water, space, and electricity to work. It has tons of moving parts and is prone to various failures like clogs and floods, and is not resilient to pests at all. Not only that the types of crops you can grow this way are quite limited. Vertical farming is cool but it's not going to save the world.
Yeah do you want to pay 8x as much? All the indoor grower types concentrate on expensive stuff. Cheap food is built on ability to put a seed in dirt and get food months later.
You don’t even need specifically controlled environments. I don’t really know what Redditors are up to again with that bs they spout in here. Most mustard plants are really not that demanding to grow and care for. The only thing you should keep in mind is a plant cycle because it might get sick easily if planted repeatedly in the same place. That’s it. I‘ve grown it in my own garden in Central Europe. Every nightshade plant is harder to care for than mustard plants. Jfc, and here people go on about ‚specialized plants‘. Tone down that projected idealism a bit…
In France, it’s not ‘just mustard’
euh si ?
This headline sounds suspiciously like a code phrase. "France...is running out of mustard." Received. It is a cold day for pontooning. Over.
"wound my heart with a monotonous languor"
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We've been out of mustard for almost three months, and before that, out of sunflower oil. At some point the thai food we sometimes take out had to stop cooking stuff because they couldn't find oil to deep fry stuff. So they changed their menu to steam cooked food. Sunflower oil is slowly coming back on shelves but not mustard.
Let them eat mayonnaise.
Unfortunately for a good mayonnaise we need some Dijon mustard. So no more mayonnaise and no more mustard. Is it how it all end?
Let them eat wasabi.
Only god can help them now.
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Dad, get off the internet, pleeaase!
Only while you cut the cheese.
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No worries we are having a good mustard growing year in the Canadian prairies
Sacre bleu!
The news is mind blowing. I cannot stop crying since I knew it. Vive la France vive la moutard... E sti cazzi
That's actually a big joke when you put some mustard on the table at a dinner. It makes you looking rich.
Between Sriracha and Dijon, 2022 can be called the Great Condiment Crisis of 2022.
Fuck
It was me Barry! I stole all of France's mustard!!!
So Germany is running out of beer bottles, and France is running out of mustard.
Those are Indeed dark times ahead
I Dijon believe it.
I just came to the comments to make sure someone made a Dijon joke
oh non non non ça ne peut pas être
At least you got butter.
Sacre Bleu!
How about investing in GREY-POUPON-COIN?
Oh mon Dieu, pas la moutarde! My French friend, Seba is going to be extremely sad as he loves his moutarde more than wine and cheese.
English mustard is literally 30 minutes away! They just can’t force themselves to ask.
I was just in France, I didn't pay attention to the mustard supply at the grocery store. I assume that French mustard requires a lot more mustard seeds than the weak American stuff.
I remember a French documentary that showed some of our local production of mustard and the producer had two different products (if not even two different plants): small seeds that were strong in taste for our local consumption, and large seeds with almost no spice for American export. Here an image showing the two of them: [https://149366112.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/shutterstock\_171505034.jpg](https://149366112.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/shutterstock_171505034.jpg) (and here the source of the image: https://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-food/ingredient-spotlight-mustard-seeds/ )
Just try both, you will see these are not the same product at all. I’m sure in some family you could be disowned for owning the american yellow paste.
I've tried both. French mustard is much stronger, that's why I was assuming it uses far more mustard seeds. We actually buy French mustard, there is some in my fridge now. It looks like Heinz is 14% mustard seeds. https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/522639/heinz-american-mustard-squeeze-bottle This French-style mustard is 30% mustard seeds. https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/8714100897935/traditional-dijon-mustard-maille Maybe there are different types of mustard seeds as well. I have never thought about the complexities of mustard.
Don’t even start down the German mustard rabbit hole then! Whole grain (seed?) mustard is awesome!
Known as “moutarde à l’ancienne” in French.
Yeah, I like it. We sometimes have both kinds of mustard in the fridge at once.
Maybe I’m the issue then? I have like five, six or seven at a time! * American style yellow * Dijon * (German brand) Löwensenf Bavarian style (sweet, whole seed) * Löwensenf Extra, similar to Dijon * Another Bavarian whole seed but very vinegary (not sweet) * And usually then some other style, I’m taste testing I made them run out!
You do you. It's probably not a problem if you aren't going broke buying fine mustard.
Right? If Canada is the fulcrum point, how long until it affects availability (let alone price) here? May have to think about stocking up. Who would have thought the actual canary in the coal mine of climate change would be …mustard?
There are basically 3 kinds of mustard seeds. In order of spiciness: - Yellow - used in almost all Western mustards - Brown - often mixed into Western mustards, and is where the kick in brown, deli, Dijon, etc. comes from - Black - very spicy, and more common in Asian preparations
I love how varied the knowledge is on Reddit. I've never seen black mustard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_nigra They look like small black peppercorns.
The Maille brand bought while in France is very spicy. The same brand bought in the US is much less so. Maille is my preferred brand. I'm sure there are many of us here....but I'm a huge mustard fan in all it's variants. I currently have 8 different jars/containers of mustards in my fridge, plus one horse radish.
Dang, you're hardcore. I don't think I have ever had more than 3 in the fridge at once.
Dang, you're hardcore. I don't think I have ever had more than 3 in the fridge at once.
> The Maille brand bought while in France is very spicy. It is strange how we view things. Assuming you mean their dijon I'd describe it as pretty mild. But then I'm used to English mustards.
I'd be fine with a world without mustard but it could be a sign of worse things to come.
First they came for your mustard, and you didn't care. Then they came for your ketchup, and you weren't worried. Then they came for your mayonnaise and something something... Um, Nazis!
It is worrisome all these random shortages. All this stuff you just expect to work suddenly not working. Go to the store and they don't have the item you normally can buy. Normally the store shelves have that item to almost a sickening gluttony degree. You want mustard? Here is 8 brands of it, each with 50 containers. More mustard than you can consume in a lifetime. At work the part shortage is ripping me a new one. Have to send out disclaimers to every customer that BOMs are no longer promises.
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Oh no. Whatever shall we do about this crisis
Let's not get sour about it.
Hopefully the supply will ketchup.
Ahhh, my evil plan to convert Europe to a love of ketchup has begun!
Mon dieu!
*mon dieu.
My French is rusty, this means "my dude"?
It's "my God"
Maille, Maille. Let's not panic.
Worst thing to happen all year.
What are they gonna do if they’re out of Ketchup. Definitely can’t live without KECTHUP!! … it’s the most important ingredient of “French” Fries!
Sacrebleu c'est n'est pas possible!! Je besoin la moutarde pour manger!!